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I truly think that one day we must unite the factions
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because I think one day we shall have an external enemy
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and why external enemy I mean very external.
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Think of the earth, we are a very yummy apple.
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I think we mode action in spas.
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Can you imagine stopping at heart just by thinking about it?
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That's some scary shit.
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You have spoken publicly with these MH370 videos.
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And it seemed like this civilian aircraft
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just disappeared in the Southeast Asian territory.
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The most complex of problems has the simplest of solutions
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depending on perspective.
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When I saw that thing open up, I saw the price effect in my action.
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This is the price effect from gone.
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So we're talking about artificial singularity.
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Different parts of the brain have different activities.
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But you know that, don't you?
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I love people that you don't know.
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Maybe you should interview me.
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So excited being here.
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This has been a long time coming
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because I've consumed a lot of your content.
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Before we get into our guest today,
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I want to present our co-host,
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the esteemed pseudonymously named Jack.
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He has to go under a pseudonym.
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He works in some sensitive areas,
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but he is very familiar with some of these heterodox scientific frameworks.
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And so I'll love my interview with how I'll put off in there.
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Why it's time sometimes I get out of my depths scientifically
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and I definitely am with Sal Patees.
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And so I'm very excited to have Jack here.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Yeah, Throes Beater.
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What are you wearing for Sal?
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I thought I'd give a little props to a very successful organization,
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eponymously known as Concwerks.
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So thank you for your service.
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And we have amazing Navy scientists who
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send shockwaves in kind of UFO world.
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In 2017, you had, you know, revelations around
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the existence of UFO study groups and stuff,
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a tip, also, that sort of thing.
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But you also had these patents that were filed by the Ghana
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who was right here named Sal Patees,
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which touch on some very interesting subjects.
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One might even say that they seem to ductile
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with how you might build a UFO.
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And we have a hat right here, which he's offered me
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to the beginning of the show, which is very nice.
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Thank you for being here.
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You're very welcome.
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And never remember as far as how cool Toph is
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there with Weinstein and Jack here.
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Trust me, you are at that level.
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You're able to trust me on this.
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I've seen many podcasts and you're one of the best.
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Well, we can put those to you, brother.
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I agree to disagree.
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But I'm happy to be the last mile of cogent distribution
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on deeper people like yourself.
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So do you have any kind of disclaimers at the top?
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Because you are in a very sensitive area as well.
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Oh, that one makes me get any tripwires.
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Let me see why I write off the bed with, yes, my name is Salvatore.
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I work for the United States Navy.
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I used to work for the United States Space Force.
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Let me say at this time that I come on this podcast
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as a private citizen and my opinion, my statements,
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everything I say, everything I have said,
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is my own, the Navy and the Space Force
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are now responsible for any of these statements whatsoever.
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And also, I would like to say that I'm not on this program,
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on this podcast, to be cubed, in other words,
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to enlighten and educate the enemy.
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So certain things that I think certain subject matter
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that we may touch upon, if it deals
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for certain frequency, Jackie, you know this well.
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We keep numbers out of play.
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And certain things that if you, for example,
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see me slip, please, or you know, and guide me accordingly.
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As Dave Grush said, we're not here to help the adversary do their job.
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Mr. Grush is 100% directly.
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But simultaneous to that, it's actually a national security risk.
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It's extremely intelligent STEM students growing up
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in the wrong frameworks and not being privy to any of this stuff
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and thinking it's all factory.
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That seems like actually a matter of national security risk.
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It's an absolutely broken paradigm, you're right.
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And it's something that has whedled its way inside the R&D framework
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of our national defense infrastructure.
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And it's kneecaptus from making critical advances
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that have national security implications.
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I want to start with the kind of autobiographical,
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because it's interesting you go on all these podcasts
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and we talk about the science.
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And I want to get into the science.
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And I think Jack can help kind of drive some of the conversation later.
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How did you get into this stuff?
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My name is Salvador Chizarre,
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That's the way you pronounce it in Romanian.
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I was born in Romanian,
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Bucharest, Romania as a matter of fact,
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I came here when I was about 13 and a half of age.
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Queen to New York City,
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As they say, still sick,
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coffee and other things as well.
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Love a New York Rubin.
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Oh my god, you know, from the Brooklyn Delhi,
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I'm going to keep it nice since this is a family show.
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I think you're going to.
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Every now and then I'll let it slip.
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The people that know me know that almost every other word,
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the real Salvador will use is the F words.
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So every now or like you would not believe.
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I can weave a tapestry of absentee second to none.
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Took that from a Christmas story,
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but hey, you know, every now and then,
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you don't have to be an original.
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So again, I was born in Romania.
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I came here as a young kid.
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I grew up in the public education system.
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to one of the well-known high schools there was Brooklyn.
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Technical high school.
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Not as on the same level as Bronx High School of Science
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or Stifeson and Manhattan,
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but from a technical point of view,
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it was very well known and very well liked.
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And then I went to Case Western Reserve University
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No, it's not a military school.
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It's actually very highly accredited.
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It usually makes the US News top
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Chafte University is almost every year.
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I would never exchange it, for example,
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going to MIT or any other school.
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It's just, I was brought up there.
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I did my graduate studies there.
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Then I was extremely fortunate to have,
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how should I say, a job, an also a grammar.
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Before then, I had a couple of stints
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in New York, electronic systems of associates,
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But I was extremely fortunate to work
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for Northrop Grand Prix Corporation
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and advanced systems, advanced concepts,
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and one of the other things.
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And then I transitioned to the USPTO.
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At the time, Alexandria, Virginia,
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they had moved from Crystal City.
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And then I was fortunate enough to come here,
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Navair, and then certain things occurred.
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And I was fortunate to work for strategic systems programs
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at the Washington Navy Yard.
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And then I went for the Space Force.
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And so in 2017, you're probably most known for these patents.
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The title of the patent just says a lot.
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A hybrid craft using an inertial mass modification device.
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How does one even get into a topic like that?
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I was very interested.
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I've seen certain things as far as what has been shown
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on certain documentaries.
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Any documentaries or then seek the mentioned?
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It was a lot of things that were done
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by Dr. Stephen Greer.
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And a great deal of things.
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As a matter of fact, I hold the man in very high esteem.
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I feel it's very unfortunate that the UFO feels
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seems to be so divided,
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so almost as divided as the country is at this point in time.
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And I wish people were more unified.
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I've always been a person that drives toward unification,
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unification of concepts, ideas.
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You can always work things out.
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You can always reach a compromise, always.
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And I think everybody benefits as a result.
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The alternative is the enemy wins.
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When we fight amongst each other,
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our strength is divided.
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This weekend, the enemy will always take force,
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take strength from that.
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So you're watching like
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closing counters of the fifth column,
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and your honeyknot, things like that.
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How do these crafts operate?
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So this patent is somewhat
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you kind of reverse engineer,
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how you think they work based on the observables
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and these sorts of...
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it can't all be Newtonian propulsion.
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You basically take something,
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you throw it out the back
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and the thing moves forwards.
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The whole idea of the Newtonian third law of action reaction
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can't all be Newtonian.
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What if there's non-Newtonian propulsion?
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can we do something to the field
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The gravitational field, for example,
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to have them manage the inertia.
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Since inertial mass and gravitational mass,
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there is equivalence between them.
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Right. So I have a dumb question,
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You publish a thing like this,
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and it seems like pretty well-centredized
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Why doesn't, you know, presumably,
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there are legacy programs
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that you believe David Graschrober is engineering this up.
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Why don't they immediately kind of hit you up?
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As a matter of fact,
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at one point in time, I almost expected to be contacted,
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then the idea almost occurred to me,
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almost instantaneously,
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that they must have this somewhere.
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They're already certain.
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That they have figured it out,
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and they already operating certain devices.
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And then I hear these things
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about the reverse engineering craft,
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and then that thing bothers me,
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because everything I've done
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is really based on all of our heavy sides.
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Version of Maxwell's equation.
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The four equations for our knowns
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that electrical engineers have grown up to
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rather than use thing that,
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because the original were an absolute
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What, turning in formalism?
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So again, the genius of all of a headi-side,
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coupled with the Hamar and Castelator,
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and certain things occur based again on resonance.
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Resonance is extremely important,
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because it talks to energy amplification.
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So you're implying that,
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you know, believe in this,
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or the ETF, the craft type of this,
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you think this is all sort of in the,
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or do you think you've just stumbled
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across the same physics of operation?
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I believe that there's manmade tech,
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and there's ET tech.
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It's possible the ET tech
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was reverse engineer from gifts or craft
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that were found historical items who knows where and how.
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And there's another avenue,
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Why can't we have that kind of acumen,
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You mean only these, they call non-human?
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Only an anxiety than have this kind of intellect?
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I mean, we should take pride in who we are,
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it's homo sapiens sapiens.
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We represent a certain intellect.
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And this is an interesting question.
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Are there multiple branches,
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multiple tech trees that could be filtering their way
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through the defense intelligence base?
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approachably nuts and bolts-ish from the,
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you know, a technology that's a couple of 100 years more advanced
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and then other examples that are far more exotic,
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that when you open them up,
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you see nothing familiar,
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you see nothing recognizable.
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So in other words, this manmade tech and ET tech,
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and I think you can tell them apart,
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the one thing that struck me based on what I came to understand
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from the idea of the super force,
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if you take the gravitational field equations of Einstein,
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you can readily deduce
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that the super force acting on the spatial temporal geometric structure,
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what we have to say is a quantum vacuum.
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Locally, can actually give birth,
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generate energy density.
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Right. This is the idea of Robert Wheeler,
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the notion that energy density determines the shape of space time
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or the shape of the quantum vacuum,
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and the quantum vacuum determines the propagation of that energy.
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And the super force equation,
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which is really a re-rendering of the Einstein gravitational field equations,
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talks to this, talks to the,
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Bob Lizar mentioned,
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at one point that it seemed to him that the so-called sports model
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was as a grown-out of the vacuum itself,
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like a 3D printing out of the space time fabric itself.
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The super force speaks to that directly.
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Are you from the tension, there's work?
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Vacuum objects, I've heard.
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I've read certain papers as well.
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It's very interesting. This idea of the vehicle being 3D printed out of the quantum vacuum,
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because we can't seem to quite understand exactly,
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because when you talk about chemical vapor deposition,
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the manufacturing techniques associated with making very small,
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nanostructured, heterolatuses.
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My graduate work, for instance, is in topological material physics.
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We do know more than is generally acknowledged about how to manufacture those lattices,
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but there is still, we don't have a lot of control over where exactly the atoms go.
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We just spit them out,
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and physics takes over, and it deposits them where it wants to deposit them in the lattice.
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So if you need them to be an extremely specific lattice points,
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and then you need to do layer after layer after layer,
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to get these really novel behaviors,
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topological superconducting layers, topological insulative layers,
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Josephson junctions, and then one after the other,
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we don't have to do that.
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So does that get 3D printed somehow?
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Okay, well, I want to get in deep quick.
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I want to just for the mass audience,
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kind of lay some scaffolding, lay the groundwork.
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So you mentioned heavy side.
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Most people now, when it comes to kind of classical lecture dynamics,
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go off of all of our heavy side simplification of Maxwell's equation.
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So where is conventional classical lecture dynamics off,
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where you think you've found kind of a different branch of heavy side?
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Because most people adhere to it, right?
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This is not anything new.
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This is not new physics.
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This is a new perspective on all physics.
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All our time was taking the heavy side version or Maxwell equation,
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coupled them with a harmonic oscillator,
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and shown that you get non-linearity with respect
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to the angular frequency,
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either vibration and or spin,
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because as you will know, the mathematics is heavily similar.
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And come up with, on the second condition,
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you get resonance condition.
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So let's get these emergent phenomena.
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They're not immune-abvious.
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They're just phenomena under normal circumstances.
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Let's break it down.
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What is a harmonic oscillator?
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Harmonic oscillator.
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If you think of the best way to describe it is from Hooke's law,
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the whole idea of f equal minus k x.
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The next assignment is in xy.
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And then you just write, as you will know,
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from Newton's second law,
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an acceleration, or m, d, x double prime, dt square.
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The whole idea of n a equal this minus k x,
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from that results your harmonic oscillator.
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So we're talking about derivatives from differential calculus.
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And this is how you go from y equals k x,
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Extremely simple stuff for you.
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Combining that concept with heavy side.
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From there, from what happens is from a simple scalar,
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as a matter of fact, I send you what we presented
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to the pattern examiner.
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And you can have that with a podcast,
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you can actually ensure absolutely.
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That's been already presented.
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It's in the public domain.
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So it's considered non-governmental,
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It's public domain since the USPTL,
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a primary examiner, a gentleman by the name of Philip Bonzell,
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has already, has put it into the public domain.
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It was given to him the phone conversation.
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So that particular 3DF was sent to him.
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And then we had a phone conversation with the Navier attorney,
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Mr. Marglott, which, by the way, was tremendous.
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And every one of the five pattern applications, mind you.
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Three of them became patterns.
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The two that did not become patterns are the ones that seem
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The high frequency gravitational wave generator became a pattern.
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The high energy electromagnetic wave generator became a pattern.
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The most exotic concepts.
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Using an inertial mass reduction device became a pattern.
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After some doing, of course, Mr. Philip Bonzell was extremely,
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in all of the, he said, this is not possible.
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I mean, neutron stars cannot produce those electric fields
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and magnetic fields.
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We're talking about electric fields on the order of 10
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to the 18 volts per meter.
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So, yeah, how do we get to that?
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If you're combining the harmonic oscillator
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with the heavy side stuff, how do you get to those, you know,
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those, that big of electric field size?
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Again, it is in that PDF.
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And you can follow the math.
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It's extremely simple.
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But the whole idea is that you get from the scaling analysis,
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you get a simple relationship that shows the,
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that it must be correct because the electric field,
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that relationship, it gives you a, a, a relationship,
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the scaling analysis of the heavy side version,
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or max shaking equation, give you a relationship,
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a simple relationship for the electric field strength.
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E. And also one for the magnetic induction,
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otherwise known as the magnetic flux density,
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also known as the B field.
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Well, from those two relationships,
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you can actually see that E max divided by B max equals C,
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equals the speed of like exactly when max will show it,
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So, that must be correct.
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And when you couple the harmonic oscillator
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within those two relationships,
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you get something for the B field, which is amazing.
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It shows, it shows variance with respect
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to angular frequency square.
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So you, in, now I'm tracking, because in your patent,
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you, you have the, you use microwaves inside the annular channel.
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And it's like, you call it a, yes, the vibrate.
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Confined photoelectric effect.
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What I'm interested in is the high temperature superconductor
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patent is necessary for the high frequency gravity wave
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They speak to each other because there's a high Q factor associated
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with the high temperatures.
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For some reason, the patent examiner did not even take that
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Exactly what you said, because then just by that simple argument
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from an enablement point of view, he should have passed,
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or they should have passed the wrong temperature superconductor.
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So what allows that frequency?
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The lack no, Dr. Victor Lacknow, Russian of the Russian Academy
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of Sciences actually shows in his archive, published paper.
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I've never been able to publish an archive.
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The man must have, you know, either known some other readers.
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Again, he showed that my room temperature superconductor
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from a mechanism point of view could work.
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And yet the patent examiner just refused to grant the patent.
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So it was an incredible idea because you described
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what is a proximity superconductor, probably also a topological
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From someone that actually has that knowledge,
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So again, case in a ceramic.
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And so it's the interfacial layer that is superconducting.
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That's where the current moves.
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And so when you've got these 100 Terahertz microwaves inside
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the annular channel of your triangle patent,
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And you're setting up that standing wave.
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And that's the, that's what it's all about.
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The doubting is the doubting.
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Energy amplification.
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The doubting is why this blows up.
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That amazing square is very important.
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And for some reason, people refused to see the mathematics
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speaks to the physics.
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Are you worried at all about that huge B field
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and the surviving materials surviving it?
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Because that's something we have to be aware of.
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10 to the 9 Tesla fields, you know, as you well know,
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as you well know, you have to be extremely careful.
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Because usually when you go above,
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even above 10 to the second maybe even pushing 10 to the third Tesla,
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we're talking about.
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Well, we've never even really on the field.
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On the field measured in Tesla,
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we've never made a magnetic field any larger than 30 Tesla.
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Usually in its turn and gigantic.
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I heard of something up to 120 Tesla,
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And the earth's magnetic fields like a thousandth of a Tesla,
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or 10,000 out of 10,000 out of 10.
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You insulate materials from that size and magnetic field.
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You wouldn't insulate it.
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You would have to, you'd use something that,
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this would all want to be synergistic.
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So you, you would want to use something that benefits in some way
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from exposure to that field,
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rather than trying to fight physics.
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I think that's where really brilliant engineering comes in,
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is that you're not going to put a bunch of things together
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that are parasitically affecting each other in negative ways.
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And you're trying to finagle your design space to make it work.
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You'd put a bunch of things together
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that actually help each other work better with their side effects.
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Physics is not enough.
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The engineering of that physics trumps everything else.
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Again, experiment trumps theory every time.
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And I believe trumps should become a verb.
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And you have you worked on this from an engineering perspective
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If you're an idiot radical.
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We worked on a high energy,
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electromagnetic field generated experiment at Navier.
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However, we weren't able to obtain a charge,
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an electrical charge of more than 10 to the minus 8 coulamps.
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We need at least one coulamps gain
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to show that the paisa effect is correct.
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I call it the paisa effect, not out of hubris,
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as people would choose to call it.
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But because it was something purely original.
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And I decided, why not?
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Let's call it something that's never been called before.
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And there was one other paisa,
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there, Abraham Pais.
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The autobiographer of Einstein himself,
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got a great physicist of his own right.
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Let's go for the names.
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In the context of all we've talked about,
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would you step through your explanation of the paisa effect
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Usually I define it as controlled motion of electrically charged
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mold or electrically charged objects
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usually from salus to plasma,
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based on accelerated vibration and or accelerated spin,
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giving rise to extremely high energy densities.
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Hence, electromagnetic energy fluxes.
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However, it can also be thought of as the production,
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the generation of high energy densities,
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based on certain vibratory fields of plasma,
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We're talking about plasma that have been driven far from equilibrium.
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You're xenon gas and the annualists that you kind of move it back and forth
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with your 100 terahertz alternating electric field.
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The terahertz frequency is an interesting field that should be looked into.
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But again, we're not here to educate an enlightened the enemy.
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So that's as far as I go.
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What is interesting, you know, how put off,
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has talked about these kind of micron layers,
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And he says that they, you know,
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micro size waveguides for terahertz.
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And so there's a reason,
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look into the slide presentation that I presented at the 2019 AIAA site tech.
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That presentation, please also post that in your podcast as along with the pattern,
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example, interview those slides.
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It makes a lot of sense, but look very carefully.
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Slides four to slides nine in that particular presentation.
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And then you'll see why the terahertz frequency is so important.
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It speaks something that Dr. Eric W. Davis published in one of those
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DIA reports that I sold until a word.
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More to do with a certain macro dimension of fifth dimension.
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Right. So there's a, I don't know how much you want to say,
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but there's a, there's a, there's a coupling factor between the electric field that you're
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setting up to generate high frequency gravity waves.
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And this oscillatory behavior of the particles,
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which potentially polarizes the quantum vacuum and allows you,
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the analogy that I have used is imagine you have a ziplock bag that's full of water,
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but it's kind of sloppy.
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And you imagine you can push on it on one side and you set up a pressure gradient.
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So now you have the quantum vacuum doing work for you and pushing on you with its own pressure.
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And it has such a tremendous energy density, like 10 to the 44th, you know, calories per
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square cubic centimeter or something bananas that it does an incredible amount of work.
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So literally, you know, this is based on metric, all general, it's using it is and quantum
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electro dynamics, even five and would say or whatever, you know, zero point is full of energy.
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It's used and I'll put off talks a lot about, you know, polarizable back in,
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so they can electrically polarize.
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And so it's using a kind of creating gradient basically to propel an object.
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Some of your work has cited Max Borin, Paul Derock and I talk more through the swing
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element, breaking the swing element. Why do I talk about that?
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Not just because I want to make black holes, but the whole idea is that when you put more
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and more energy into a particular space time locality, you can actually unravel what we understand
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as continuum, space time continuum within that quantum vacuum limit.
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The swing element really, this whole idea of generational particle and hypothetical fields,
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this is exactly what the swing element needs.
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And it's on the order of 10 to the 33 watts per meter square,
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speaking, corresponding to an energy density on your 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube.
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The enormous amounts of energy.
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And enormous. Speaking again to those electric field strength of 10 to the 18 volts per meter,
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commensurate to the B field on your 10 to the 9 volts per meter again.
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What is the Schuhrerland?
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The swing element truly, it represents how much energy density you'd
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de, quote unquote, quantum vacuum or rather space time fabric, 10 before it breaks apart.
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And how does this impact the black hole information limit?
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Right? Because you've talked about this.
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I've never looked too much into the information.
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Gloss peridot somewhere, I was really sorry for that.
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Sure. So, so basically, what you're saying is you're using this,
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you're using this electromagnetic amplification methodology to create this entity density.
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Yes, to essentially break the fabric of reality in a way that uses it as propulsion.
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That's 100 percent correct. Because once you form this black hole, I truly believe that every black
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hole, what I'm going to have is a white hole. There's a warm hole that truly forms between
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whatever that locality that you've broken the swing element and somewhere else that it talks to.
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Based on the superpose.
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And believe it or not.
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What? Where does quantum entanglement?
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Where does spin kind of, you know, where's what has spinning balls here?
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So in other words, you can accelerate even spin or accelerate in vibration depending on which
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is easier from an engineering point of view. As you will know, when you spend something,
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even surpassing 10 to the four RPM, it's very hard to do so and keep this thing.
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So again, you might choose vibration.
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I just chose to put in both spin and vibration because the mathematics is highly similar.
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From an engineering point of view, you'd want to go with vibration.
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Which I spend, you mean, it's been like, literally spinning and thing?
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Not like electrical.
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Around its own acting.
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And this is interesting, right? There's a very common through line in a lot of alternate
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gravity manipulation approaches relating to either macroscopic spin.
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These would be something called the Poem's theory. Poe was born angular momentum synergy theory,
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something that Richard Eskridge looked into at Marshall.
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And then Alza Fonds, nucleonic spin approaches that he sort of scrubbed with Feynman back in the
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But then you've got Ming Lee's work with the rotating superconductor of the YBCO.
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Also, you've you proclutinof used rotating superconductors.
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And I didn't realize this, but Nick Cook who wrote the hunt for zero point.
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He won a superclut in the great end.
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There was a fee and for whatever reason, Nick Cook had this instinct to ask him about
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Victor Schalbert or in some way actually.
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And the club now goes, yeah, my father was this Soviet agent at the time,
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or you said, you're a Russian agent.
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And so, you know, it was so so so so so so so so so so yeah.
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He was, he said, my father was a Soviet agent.
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And he was actually counterintel and he was tasked with retrieving a lot of Schalbert
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So Schalbert, while the first people to talk about rotating, you know,
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I think in his case, he had something called an impeller machine.
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This was pretty kind of superconductivity based on implosion rather than right.
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The whole idea of creation, again, a physics based on creation rather than destruction.
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Well, and do you do you think there's a,
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yeah, but there was a connection between.
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And then the club now said, we just needed more higher RPMs.
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And but again, from my engineering, you know how detrimental that can be.
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It's very hard to do.
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It's very hard to do.
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It's very hard to do.
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And that's why I chose what you're going to put in my brain.
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And that just vibration on an electrically charged object.
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But yeah, so you think that lineage doesn't make sense from an engineering standpoint.
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Actually, vibration makes worsen.
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I mean, because with, with, let's listen to Jack, by the way, Jack is brilliant.
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No, no, far from it.
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Jesse, please, please 100% that is totally unfair.
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Never, never, ever say that.
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No, I mean, I just, you guys are a board of ants to me.
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Well, there's interesting things you can do when you set up standing waves in plasmas.
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I mean, you can, you can generate cold plasmas as he was talking about.
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This is something I did in my graduate research back in the day with certain frequencies
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that will pull electrons off of the atoms.
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And then you can start doing interesting things with those electrons.
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And you can set up double layer plasmas and things like this.
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And you know, if you can control where the charge goes, I mean,
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this is the problem with a lot of hot fusion experiments is that they can't control
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where the electrons go.
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They can't control where the hot ions go.
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And so you get all kinds of breaking radiation.
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You get brums too long.
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And you get all kinds of, you know, tremendous losses.
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And this, this, this, this approach emulator, it's that.
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So that's why you need cold plasma for the vibrations.
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And how do you produce cold plasma?
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We're not touching that.
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It's in, yeah, it's in, yeah, it's in, yeah, it's in, yeah, it's in, yeah.
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But it's just, you know, verifying.
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Then your, since after all, this is my show called first in person interview.
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So I shoot off for something to the audience.
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It involves something that has been given the Nobel Prize,
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Chisix, Nobel Prize in Physics.
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I believe it was last year.
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Non-local reality guys.
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I just believe it there.
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So, okay, so that's a better approach than, and then what is this have to do with
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superconductive VIGFs?
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Believe it or not, everything is related at the quantum vacuum list.
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So I'll throw something out there.
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So in, in superconducting physics, so we have this baseline theory called BCS theory.
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Um, Bar Dean Cooper.
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Yeah, so, so Bar Dean, brilliant physicist, two Nobel prizes, the transistor and superconductivity.
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And so, so most superconductors, their, their behavior is characterized by BCS theory.
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However, they're, they're, these are typically ultra low temperature superconductors
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and extremely high B field superconductors.
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So these are not terribly useful in industrial commercial application,
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because the environments you have to put them in are very exotic.
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So, of course, superconductivity is very useful because it's, it offers
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lossless power transmission, very high electric fields, very high magnetic fields.
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I've often said that the development and discovery of a room temperature superconductor would be
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is as transformative to commerce and industry as anti-gravity.
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Well, let me disrupt 100 percent.
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I need to disrupt it.
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Now, so there's been a number, a lot of research last 30 or 40 years into topological materials,
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topological insulators, and then something called topological superconductors.
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And the nature of a topological material is so typically you have crystal lattice materials.
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So metals or crystals, insulators or crystals,
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semiconductors or crystals.
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Or, narrowly, those crystals have the same properties throughout the bulk of the matrix,
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like no matter which way, you know, frequently they're isotropic, meaning this way or that way,
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or they're an esotropic, meaning it's different this way versus that way.
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When you make semiconductor crystals, you get polycrystalline, so you get grain boundaries,
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and you know, features stop at these grain boundaries.
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And so you start to get an esotropies that's significant to manufacturing.
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Semiconductor materials where we're doping these layers with different atoms.
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And we've been doping since the 1950s.
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I mean, this has been around some time.
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But the level of precision in semiconductor doping is three or four orders of magnitude lower
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than what we're talking about with these quantum heterostructured lattices,
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where you really need these big chromium and benedium atoms that install their ferromagnetic ordering
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You need them in very specific lattice locations.
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You're absolutely brilliant and right on.
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But let's bring it to a very simplest again,
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Aachen's razor, simplicity and minimalism.
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One that superconductivity truly represents a macroscopic quantum phenomena.
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And it speaks directly to macroscopic quantum coherence.
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Look very carefully.
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It slides four to nine in the 2019 AIWA site.
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A lot of people have gone over those slides as it...
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There's nothing there.
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There's something of incredibly important stuff.
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How do you maintain coherent, so macroscopic skills?
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Because everything wants to decoher.
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Everything wants extremely cold temperatures.
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Again, the atoms being in this nice dance.
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Because again, because of electron-pulam repulsion,
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these things don't want to pair up.
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And yet, BCS theory says that they should.
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And Dr. Victor Lackdor believes it's not the electrons that bite polyrons.
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The whole idea of a bipolar mechanism that occurs at these higher temperatures.
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Which is a quasi particle.
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It's a composite quasi particle of two polarons.
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A polaron is itself a quasi particle, which is...
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And the paease effect speaks directly to what?
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To this mechanism of room temperature superconductivity.
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It basically says once you form the...
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An alternating magnetic field, once you form this Bose-Eithane condensate
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that Victor Lackdor speaks to,
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you can use a pulse current.
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Again, an alternate current to move it.
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To move it, to manipulate it.
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Rule, temperature superconduct.
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And yet, no one has touched...
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And either the Victor Lackdor paper or my patent.
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Thinking again, it's pseudo-sign.
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How would you do this?
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So when the reason generally you can't get superconductivity at high temperatures,
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because the atoms in the...
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In the material have all this thermal motion.
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They have all this thermal energy.
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And so the nature of superconductivity is that this thing called a phonon,
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which is a vibratory mode of an atom inside of a lattice.
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Phonons facilitate the transfer of electrons through the lattice
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So the poly exclusion principle only applies to spin one half bosons.
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I know this is really deep.
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But what happens is when you force electrons close together,
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they behave as though they're a spin-one particle,
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meaning poly no longer applies.
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And so they can both occupy the minimum ground state,
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so they can move together.
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So there's no degeneracy.
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There's no energy splitting.
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And so they move very efficiently through the lattice.
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Problem is, if this lattice is warm,
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and all these atoms are vibrating randomly,
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you can't get this coherent phonon behavior.
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In extremely, novely comprised lattices,
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you put atoms in just just the right place,
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such that these internal magnetic fields set up these roadways,
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stop signs, highways, for current to flow,
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and you can get this behavior.
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So it would involve...
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You would need to fabricate materials on an atomic level.
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By not the paisa, like the paisa,
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I think does not speak to anything
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depending on chemical composition.
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That's why Dr. Victor Lagnor
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he picked it up, because he realized this
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is the solution to an active superconductive.
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A wasn't it's not based on chemical composition.
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So like the type 1A or the type 2 superconductors.
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This is basically, it can be done as long as this thing
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at any point in its structure has been superconducting.
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For example, that's why I chose lead circulate,
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titanate, all three components
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at very low temperatures are superconducting.
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And yet, because of the bipolar mechanism
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that Dr. Lagnor I believe in his paper,
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it's just a three-page paper.
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But on the third page, he gives the mechanism
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and he speaks to the paisa effect room temperatures
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So these materials are superconducting
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on their natural state, even at room temperature?
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Not at room temperature.
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It's very low temperature.
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He's describing conventional superconductors
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like YBCO and from Philates.
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Let's certainly titanate it.
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These are the components of what they call a piezoelectric material.
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You know, Townsend Brown spent the letter
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and after this period of looking at the fissure-wetring material.
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They're very born because one talks to again,
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the whole idea that pressure induced what?
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The electric field can also induce
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pressure changes in the back.
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Well, I discovered something very interesting
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in the Townsend Brown ceramic insulator of choice.
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It is a very interesting thing.
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It's a solid chalk, very interesting thing.
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In videos of him, at the bottom of the box.
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This is what changed my mind about Townsend Brown.
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This is what you're having.
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They have dismissed his work.
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By the way, he's getting a pounds of brown.
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What you're having to pull up to, he says,
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all of her heavy side had a very adequate theory of gravity back in the 1890s.
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And we would be right to listen to him.
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So that was his opinion as well.
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I'm convinced that some well-meaning physicist
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just didn't see the application to exotic condensed matter physics at the time.
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Because I think these are subtle effects for which the coupling
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is small in natural materials.
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And as we started to manufacture some of my conductors,
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this was the world's first meta-material in the broad sense.
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It's not an optical meta-material in the strict sense.
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And you start to set up these solid state environments
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that have fundamentally different environments.
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And we're just now getting to the point
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where we have the sem tools to interrogate these things.
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And we have the chemical vapor deposition
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and the atomic vapor deposition to actually make them.
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And then we have the interrogation tools
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to know for sure what we really made.
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I mean, these experiments take years to set up and execute.
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That's why it's been said.
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What would be the next step for me?
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Because let's build a UFO.
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I mean, if there was every time where we were, you know,
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geopolitically unstable on a macro level
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and need to throw a Hail Mary, it would be right now.
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And I don't know what we have to fill, you know,
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maybe we were way more advanced than, I mean, what do you think?
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Do you think we're way more advanced than meets the RIR?
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I truly believe we must be.
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This democracy must win.
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This republic must stand.
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So yes, I believe we shall.
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Do you think that what you're looking into has already been discovered
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and then some in kind of private quarters
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or do you think that you're deriving something fun-melling?
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I do not think I'm an original and this is at all.
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So as a matter of fact, the physics that I speak to was available
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in the 1890s in the way great physicists at the time.
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I'm 100% sure that I'm not an original and this.
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Many interesting things.
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It's just the way that I address the PICE effect,
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especially from the wrong temperatures to be conducted.
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Now, the PICE effect driven,
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room temperatures were conducted.
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I do believe I'm an original and I would believe that.
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And Victor Lacno attest to that.
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He says it could work.
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Now, for a man of his capacity,
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his capability of his mathematical prowess
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and not just mathematical physics,
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which are physical mathematics,
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where the physics drives the mathematics, not vice versa.
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This man thinks that this could work.
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I believe it should be looked at.
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Well, there are these claimed replications
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of room temperature.
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Yeah, you're the only
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This is a research career in China.
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But everybody thinks this is pseudo science.
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Well, yeah, so do you think that this is already been done?
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You think it's been discovered?
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Do you know that that team was so sure of their results
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that they published one paper with six authors
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and then they published another paper with three authors
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because only three people can share a Nobel Prize.
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They were that confident.
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And what would happen
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on the era that people have replicated it?
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The old Chinese teams that replicated the experiment.
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It went into the void as if.
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So you guys seem to lend a little more credence
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Yeah, I think I had heard there were reproduction issues.
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Other labs tried to make it.
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And I find it hard to believe like other labs would cover it up
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because again, it's what it's.
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Brands galore way in half.
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You have what you know,
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to talk to who I was
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aren't due to what I love.
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I think he's been American here.
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I went when I wanted to speak to him.
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He really has to speak super cryptically about like, you know,
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some very disrupting sound.
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Like the lights save the world,
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but also destroy the world.
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We all have to play nicely together.
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Like the toy or whatever is this.
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Or is he talking about a ring temperature
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The man doesn't drink, I believe.
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So you might not be able to get any information out of him.
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He's also a very, you can tell the man has seen a lot.
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So on that note, you know,
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on the subject of proliferation,
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I find it very fascinating to think about the fact that Manhattan,
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we got a little lucky and that nuclear weapons
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turned out to be very difficult to make.
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And so proliferation was slow.
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In terms of the weaponization of UAP physics,
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and we've of course mentioned there could be multiple branches
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in different tech trees,
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do you have a sense that this technology
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will be difficult to replicate,
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difficult to manufacture?
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No, however, there's a paper out there,
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plasma compression fusion device.
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You know, we're talking right before.
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It's being cited by some very important
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and research teams in China.
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And the latest that's being just cited
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IEEE journal cybernetics.
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Can you imagine making a plasma compression fusion device,
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Now, in what artificial intelligence domain
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would cybernetics couple with,
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if you were to use such a device,
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say such a device was operational,
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it could be made operational.
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In a small footprint, a power source,
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something like Iron Man's reactor.
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Could you imagine what you would use that in?
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Why would the initriopoly journal cybernetics be interested
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in that particular work?
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Think what that would mean.
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There's so many ways.
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I mean, enormous energy densities
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are terrifying in everywhere.
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Everybody imagine an army of those.
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What they could mean.
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Leave it there, Jesse.
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Again, the fusion of ideas cross domain
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ability of using information from different disciplines.
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That's in the open literature.
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That's why O-Synth can be so incredibly important
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in the right hands in cross domain technology,
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interdiscipline and across those
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O-Synths with tools extremely dangerous.
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The use of AI tools in reverse engineering,
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all of these ideas right out of the ether,
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right out of off the internet is very powerful already.
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I mean, it's helped a lot of us in the disclosure effort,
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find things that are out there in the public domain
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just maybe we didn't realize they were already in the public domain.
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However, it's also a cubed and not a good idea.
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Well, okay, so you also have written a lot about
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high frequency gravitational waves.
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Yes, and so how does that play into all of this?
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And why don't we actually zoom out real quick
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and just explain how, okay,
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if you've had a room temperature,
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superconductor, and then you had the país if I,
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how would this allow you to possibly do the UFO?
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Like, how does that play into, you know,
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I cannot speak to that.
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I cannot speak to that.
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there is no such thing as faster than life travel.
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Einsteinian physics is never broken.
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Einstein was 100 percent.
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Everything Einstein has come up with is 100 percent real.
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And I truly believe that, for example,
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even quantum entanglement,
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we're not talking about instantaneous communication here.
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So you don't believe that like a lot of people
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in national security,
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disclosure world talked about,
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out to the airy work drives,
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you know, evolving negative mass
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or negative energy to allow for faster than my travel.
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You don't think that's possible.
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I do not believe then.
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Again, once you break, once you create this black hole,
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Einsteinian physics no longer truly applies.
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Think of the paradigm.
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it's as if you have broken known physics to begin with.
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again, I choose not to call it new physics,
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but truly that's what's really.
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So as you hit the Schroinger limit,
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breaks based on what happens vis-a-vis this fifth dimension.
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What's interesting about a kubir drive, I think,
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is this notion of negative energy.
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And there have been people who have associated negative energy
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with quantum vacuum energy.
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So what's interesting is it could be the case
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that the alkybier approach
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and the quantum vacuum approach
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in fact arrive at the same result.
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They're just different paradigms
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for looking at the same thing.
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But what's interestingly different
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is alkybier is a strictly Einsteinian notion
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in a manner of speaking.
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It operates entirely within general relativity.
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It doesn't require a TOE.
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It doesn't require new physics.
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Whereas, which also is somewhat unhelpful
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because it doesn't give us guideposts to new physics.
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It's not really informative in any way.
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Whereas, these kinds of approaches do require those things.
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Can you talk about how high frequency gravity waves might allow
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for UFO-like activity or?
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I found it interesting that.
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And that's just because it can be weaponized.
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So, well, no, no, no.
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Well, let's talk about the other.
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Well, I did find it interesting just high level
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that I believe if Gennie put Glednov
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has hit man something already.
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And if it's true that he has made this impulse
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gravitational generator.
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Because he's he's he's he's he's he's funded by the Russians.
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And he's in he's in.
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So what do they once upon a time I was told he was working
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for an American contractor?
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I thought he might be because I the latest rumors is that
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I'm pretty sure he's repatriated.
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Okay, so this is really,
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but anyway, yeah, here he's set up because basically it's funny
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because after this conversation,
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neurotic about this conversation,
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but I'm so much less neurotic about outing towns and brown,
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who I'm sure is right,
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because that is so far down the chain of like,
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it's like so not dangerous.
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And it's and it's, to me,
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it's absurd from an American national security standpoint
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that like it would all be controversial
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to destigmatize him.
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You know, he's the side.
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He's also an 80 scientist.
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He destigmatizes his own work.
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Probably for good reason because at the time,
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I think it was the tip of the sphere.
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And it was this cold war secrecy era
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of just based on this conversation.
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It sounds like all nations are pretty far advanced
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as far as these heterodox frameworks.
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And if you're the US,
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you need to be getting as many young people
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aware of these things as soon as humanly possible,
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at least from a high level.
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Otherwise, where the hell's the talent going to come from?
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Yeah, what seriously?
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Yeah, and one sign is spoken on this too.
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And I think, you know, I don't, I don't,
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I think I think there's missing names.
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Like what's going on?
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Who's who's actually working on it?
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Or even just like, what are the proper frameworks?
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It's like, finally, it seems like string theory
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is capitulating after him bashed over the head
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for the last, you know, 10 years by philomesis.
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You know, they've seemed like not as super,
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you know, self-aware crowd up until like,
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maybe the last couple of years,
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they're all saying, you know,
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like Leonard Suskin just won on theories of everything.
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one of the great interviewer.
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It's like, I think we kind of, you know,
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So, but it just would see you would expect
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some sort of coordinated effort on high
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when it comes to the American National Security State,
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when it comes to letting this stuff out.
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And it's, it's a, I always feel like, you know,
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sort of in an awkward position with, you know,
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for example, with the Townsend Brown stuff,
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where it clearly that was the right thing to do,
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but it's in retrospect,
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I remember this sort of conversation
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and then, you know, it's like, you never know
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what the right thing is.
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I suspect some of this has to do with the fact
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the majority of the program was executed during the Cold War.
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And I think perhaps at one time,
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we were quite certain that we were the only ones with anything.
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And we thought, worst-case scenario,
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we put a big footprint on this.
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And just like Manhattan,
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the adversary infiltrates the program
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and steals what we've gotten.
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And all of a sudden, there's this proliferation
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of next-generation weapons and mass destruction
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as I spoke to Dave Grush about.
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And maybe they thought for the longest time,
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max priority is barriot.
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Keep it totally, totally silent.
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No one knows it exists.
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Distance, second priority.
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Glean is many technical insights from it as you can,
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every once in a while.
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And unfortunately, somehow, eventually,
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they did get it either through their own crash retrievals
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or infiltrating our program, whatever it might be.
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And now there is a race and we are not in first.
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What do you, what do you think it gets at first?
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If I had to guess between Russia and China, I'd say China.
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They're not distracted with a regional war.
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They have a significant amount of resources
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Do you know that treated a lot
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or they're a lot of life from this country?
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Every year, China graduates more STEM professionals
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than exist in the entire United States.
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Yeah. How many times have won the Math Olympia?
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Do you think that's a...
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And you think it's probably, you know,
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it's like the three-body problem
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or whatever, the PRC, if they want you to work on
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some highly class wide stuff,
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they just knock on you to work.
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And here is just this complicated, bureaucratic,
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you know, all these corporate feet
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dealing with local incentives, taking shots at one another.
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I truly think that one day we must unite the factions
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because I think one day we shall have...
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One day you need now.
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Listen, as soon as possible,
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because I think we have an external enemy.
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And why external enemy?
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I mean very external.
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What do you tell about NHI?
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So yeah, what evidence do we have?
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Because, you know, when you speak to Louis Alessandro,
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you have sort of this like idea that something is imminent.
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You've been possibly hostile contact me.
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They're prepping the battle space.
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I tend to think at least historically looking back.
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Can you come see Earth?
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People have wored for less than the place of extreme natural resources.
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We are a very yummy apple.
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I mean, do you have any other bodies I?
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Sure, but like, it's like we have thousands of years of history
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where like we haven't had contact.
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They were maybe we have had contact.
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At least it's a summer all enough
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where like our modern historical perspective,
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I believe, which had contact with thousands of years.
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But in this weakly entangled the federal way,
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in a way that, you know, if you were to talk to like a conventional
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historian, they would not say that, you know,
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would they say we're a lot
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and we're at the top of the consciousness food chain.
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So do you guys have any information that I don't want?
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It comes to something coming down the pike
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as far as hostile contact them?
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Well, there are people who feel strongly
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that there have been reset events, human history reset events.
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For instance, 70,000 years ago, we know genominically
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there was a bottleneck.
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There was a human bottleneck event where, you know,
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something like 7,500 members of the population
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And I don't know what to think of that.
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I mean, I don't really necessarily see the purpose,
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but you do have to speculate.
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There's so many degrees of freedom associated with,
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what are their motives?
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Are they resource constructed in some way?
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What continues to be interesting in 50,000 years?
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But it isn't necessarily well documented
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that that was, you know, Luis and Walter Alvarez,
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Luis Walter Alvarez, the father who was in the Manhattan
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project, they had this theory that, you know,
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an asteroid had the Earth, what I've done,
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the dinosaurs around that period.
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And then you get this Cambrian explosion of new light.
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So like that doesn't feel like not human intelligence to me.
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I don't mean extinction level of that resets.
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I mean, I mean more recent than that, like in human history.
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For instance, the toba event and the Randall Carlson stuff
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and the Graham Hancock stuff, the reset 12,000 years ago,
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you know, the younger people.
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But that might be just back common air burst
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from the toward the history.
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So like it's not the middle.
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But then again, you need more evidence.
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If you're going to say that not human contact,
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the toss style is coming down the pike.
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Well, there's a book out there.
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OK, what's the book?
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Charles Ford, Book of the Dam.
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It starts with very interesting words.
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I believe we are property that that read that folk.
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It's very interesting.
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It's very what's this for your audience?
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Let them look into this.
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So we're already colonized.
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One hour again, the whole idea of our way of civilization
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with Amnesia as a certain gentleman.
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Well, we've got the Graham Hancock shirt.
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Well, we definitely seem to follow this like a low-born
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incentive scarcity gamified then.
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That doesn't seem like it's in the best interest
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of our race ascending into anything more real.
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And that's the thing that attracts me to the whole U.F.
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both for now and not for all.
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It's weird cast of characters and a whole of mirrors vibes.
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It feels like a somewhat transcendent topic where maybe we
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can descend out of our play.
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I think we will soon, soon enough.
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Anyway, face a tremendous threat from without.
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And I believe as the great Ronald Reagan once said,
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if we do not come together as a unified earth,
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we will not work on what's coming.
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Do you think it's already, have you
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have these rumors of like the gray alien sort of kids
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collecting biological sand?
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I truly do not know.
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Why did this almost just because that's
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a crazy it that's a really big assertion?
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Do you ascribe to the Battlefield preparation hypothesis
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that the vehicles acting aggressively
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with fighter planes that the vehicles overflying the
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little fields and shutting this off?
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Of course, the testing.
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Oh, and that's why we should be very careful on putting
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all our money into reverse engineer ET craft.
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Because they already have their own technologies.
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They know how to defeat their own thing.
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What if there's good factions and bad factions?
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Like when I speak to Robert A. Steng,
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I'm praying for that because otherwise we
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do not have a chance in hell.
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Well, a lot of the nuclear stuff is like shutting down
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silos and maybe in that a lot of the messaging
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that people get seems to be like,
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you're going to destroy yourselves and subsurbing
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for their Holocaust and you need to come together now.
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And I want folks more on the environment and that sort of
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It's a green PC type of things.
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And I'm not saying that's not some tricksterism.
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You know, it's hard to set his arms.
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And we need to maintain that if there are multiple.
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Yes, I completely agree.
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If there are multiple actors in the space,
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it's incredibly hard to attribute what to what?
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How does your work so connect with the great output off?
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I read a lot of his papers.
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And he has great indeed.
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Don't forget, I believe this man.
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If he was not connected with things that are
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taken as non-scientific and pseudo science,
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like remote units would have deserve is
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deserving of a Nobel Prize.
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Truly, especially the statistical review paper on gravity.
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What is the field of this paper?
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What does he say about gravity?
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When he describes gravity as an immersion property
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of the underlying space time foam.
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And it's it's it's it's put off like seminal work of space time.
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So it's in the lecture.
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Where Polaro is the vacuum, then you can manipulate gravity.
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Like you can manipulate variables and Maxwell's equation.
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And he's the first to talk about that.
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He was touching out in my interview with Anne
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And we didn't quite get into what the mechanism.
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Because this idea, I think, you know, Eric couldn't believe
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that he worked on remote viewing.
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I could tell that again, for Harvard,
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a trained mathematician, the idea of even remote viewing being possible,
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such an abnormality.
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What do you think of remote viewing?
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I think remote action is possible.
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So that's even farther than remote viewing.
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Can you imagine stopping at the hardest by thinking about it?
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That's some scary shit.
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Anyway, who needs the CIA's hard-stopping gun
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when he can do it with a saw?
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Well, man, anyway, well, there are rumors about the fact
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that there was other teams of remote viewers
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being trained by Pat Price and Chomangonical
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Yeah, there are rumors that they'll be on the gun.
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I mean, even if you read Schemaark as a dependent gun,
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it was definitely still going on in the context of awesome.
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But I don't think it ended in 1995.
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I mean, you have just Mick Monagal won the Legion of Merit
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for over 200 times, which she helped
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to relax intelligence, cost and case is drawn up,
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nuclear sites, that sort of thing.
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You don't just end a program like that.
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It just wouldn't make sense.
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But I also think we're figuring out more and more
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possible physical models of consciousness
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that might explain remote viewing.
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So if the brain is a hybrid quantum classical system,
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which you know, you, you, you,
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panorows would be one model.
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And I don't know if the microtubules are the right thing,
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but they can maintain coherence up until the, you know,
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single point, you know, the gravity
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to the point or whatever.
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And if, if that's the case, then in quantum systems,
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you have temporal non-locality, and you can send
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bigger reverse cubic positions in quantum computations.
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And so if, then if you get, again,
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to a working quantum computer, maybe you can send
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information on the application like back in time,
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many people building quantum computers say that.
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So if your brain is a hybrid, you know,
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quantum classical computer, maybe you are accessing
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shards of information for the future,
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especially if you're given confirmatory.
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How does the brain prevent decoherence?
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That's the question I should probably
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through non-abaliant statistics, just like the vice,
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So how would you, that must be, you know,
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some meditation technique?
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Non-abaliant statistics.
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It's like for me, your oxetistics.
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That's a type of particle statistic model
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that emerges from standard model physics.
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I know from a medical perspective,
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but like a dog isn't doing vector calculus.
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When he's touching a frisbee like what protocol should we do?
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So to maintain coherence.
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So what do you think?
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Tach, what do we get to the, how do we get to the fifth
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How do we hit the swing or limit with EQ?
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Well, I'm 100%, for example, in these UAP phenomena,
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they speak of a mind-matter connection,
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both Stephanie and Lear.
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But there must be, there must be a trans,
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there must be an intermittent medium.
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What is that intermittent medium?
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It has occurred to me that these...
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The back even itself?
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What else can be there?
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The medium for which...
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How does light transfer?
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But you're saying where's the medium?
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Because every other wave has to move through a medium.
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But is it at the super force level?
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Is it at the Planck scale?
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Are we talking about the super force?
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We're talking about 10 to the 44 Newton.
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It has to be in a bit of a dimensional state.
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It would have to be...
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Which can show this talks about that the dimensional space
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for exotic, exotic vacuum object.
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I suppose it doesn't have to be.
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It's not necessarily required that we have higher dimensional spaces.
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I mean, there could always...
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So, Kaluza Climb can back to fight sub-dimensions.
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It has problems, but the general notion of higher demand...
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It solves some problems.
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It explains the hierarchy problem.
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It explains the gravitational weakness problem.
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Why is gravity 31 orders of magnitude weaker than the strong nuclear force or something?
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I remember what Kaluza thinks of electrical charges.
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Motion ND, the 500-in-champ.
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I was reading from Frontiers of Propulsion Science by Eric Davis.
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Great book, by the way.
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Eric W. Davis, no matter what he says on my physics,
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the man must be congratulated for that book.
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Just for that book alone.
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Him and Mark Melis are amazing.
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But you can tell that the real forte behind the physics is Dr. Davis.
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Well, he says my head off to him.
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He says something around the glipidal brown effect,
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which he believes in the horseman of a...
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If you take the face value that that's just a coronal winder,
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I've winded and it's not actually a tie between the electromagnetic to the man gravity.
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But I think at one point, he says you would need to fit the dimensional space
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to connect EM and gravity if this were actually work.
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I think fundamental...
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Oh, Dr. Davis is very enthousi.
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Well, so one of my favorites, I mean...
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How we going into heavy pseudoscience for everyone out there?
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So here's what's funny is that...
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That's right, brother.
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If you talk about heavy side as a more fundamental treatment of Maxwell,
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similarly Einstein-Carton is a more fundamental treatment of Einstein,
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because Einstein felt that the torsional tensors should be treated symmetrically and free space,
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and therefore zero out, you know, T21 minus T12 equals zero.
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And E. Light-Carton came around and said, no, you can't make that assumption, you know,
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there could be exotic environments where this is a non-zero contributor.
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And so basically the two contributions to gravitational force and a geometric
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context are curvature to space time and a twist to space time.
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So Torshin is the twist.
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And what makes that interesting from a gravity manipulation standpoint is that
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contents of the torsional tensor are the spin density tensor, which can contain contributions
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from electromagnetic spin.
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So if you can do really novel things with spin either by coupling electron spin to nucleonic spin
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or maybe like you're talking about axial spin to harmonic vibratory modes that sort of blow
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up real fast, you can maybe generate really large contributions to the spin density tensor
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and get these torsional repulsion fields that act like gravity, look like gravity,
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but technically they're not exactly gravity.
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However they can couple to the certain conditions.
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So then you could basically, this gravity can't traditionally manipulate in a lab,
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so you might be able to manipulate in a lab.
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Again, the whole idea of the graviton itself being a spin tool,
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whereas the photon spins at one.
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Now in the broader context, Torsional Physics is not a theory of everything.
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It's just going to be a piece of a more complete theory of gravity slots into some broader theory
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Do you think, oh, so that's fascinating.
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So, but this would be Torsional Physics a way to get your authority if it binds to gravity
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more tightly than traditional transverse ferns seen in the electromagnetic waves.
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Along the lines of multiple tech trees, this could be one of those branches that's important
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What do you think of, you know, you mentioned Greer,
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you were watching this stuff and that sort of inspired you.
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Some of the work did Bob was art.
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Do you think that he was?
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I think Lazar is right on the money.
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When I, I'll tell you the truth, when I saw in the super force equation,
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see to the fourth divided by big G being the super force.
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And that talking as a linear operator really,
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to the spatial temporal geometric structure,
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thereby giving rise to energy density.
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When I saw that and I remember his words that this sports mile is as if it was 3D printed
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That's exactly what that equation says.
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So that means that they had the capability to manipulate the space force.
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At a plantian level, we'll talk about a physics that we,
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Well, that's why I'm saying they would add a,
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this is root access.
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That's a pretty one.
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Oh, and so what about his idea of gravity, a gravity,
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I don't know about that.
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It's occurred to me, maybe it's curvature, gravity and torsional gravity.
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Could be interesting.
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I don't like encouraging him.
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well, no, I've, I've come around on those.
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I never, I never fully rule.
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Logan says that he believes, Razaar.
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Well, I believe, Lizar is not too, I'm starting to do.
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Well, I think he and was pushed out by Intel, I believe,
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because John Lee gave the files to, to originate.
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But and so maybe it was like at the time that the majestic 12 was coming
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out. I think a lot more about the majestic 12 was correct as well.
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And that we maybe go one find another name and they're
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tumbled, you know, false names and that whatever.
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But that's how kind of passage material works.
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That's how, you know, recruiting works where you,
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you know, you have to give it a little quacky of the near or whatever.
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So I don't quite, you know, maybe believe the story fully pre-lifation,
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but I think you experience real stuff.
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And he was given passage material.
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Maybe some of it was authentic.
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And he did on the side and no matter.
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Don't forget this guy actually knew Teller.
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Teller did not approach anybody.
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We're talking with one of the greatest physicists of all time.
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If it wasn't for his, his, his, his sting would open
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Heimer and how much open Heimer's love by the rest of the physicist community,
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it would tell it would be, remember,
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sure, it was one of the geniuses of our time.
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Remember this is the man that not only is responsible for the
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Teller-Wolom device, but for something called Project Sandal,
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Well, if it's unclassified, so what happened?
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He said, imagine creating something instead of a
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15 megatons, the Russian Tsar-Bomba, imagine something billion.
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Well, yeah, he wanted a hundred gigatons.
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Oh, I don't know why.
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Oh, man was an absolute genius from every world.
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Genius from every world.
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He had no, no, no, he rightly believed.
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No, no earth, no, no world.
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And it's right mind, we all sane.
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Trust me, we are sane as an earth.
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That's why we must come together, unified somehow,
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from the out of the matter of energy.
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He believed that no, no sane world would ever execute such a weapon.
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So just the very existence of such a weapon,
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knowing that you have that sword.
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This is the sword of democracies.
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The men must have been very well versed in the classics.
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Sort of democracies, always hanging above your head.
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Nobody's crazy enough.
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We have enough of a surge of democracy.
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But what do you think?
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Made an interest that you've been talking a lot about,
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And him being, you know, kind of an inspiration for you at the moment.
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I interviewed a maybe scientist, another maybe scientist too,
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actually was anonymous in my Townsend Brown episode.
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He talked about this framework of extended electro dynamics.
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So he talked about the original 21 Maxwell's Equations
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and a more faithful adherence to those equations and the quarter-narian, you know,
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Being somehow essential to all these new exotic
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electromagnetic waves beyond the transverse hurting waves,
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the scalar wave, scalar longitudinal waves, things like that.
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Do you agree with that model?
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It, I believe there are many roads that lead to Rome.
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I understand that view because they believe there's that truly what we're seeing,
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again, the whole idea of the iron of bone effect,
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the whole idea is that what's true is the vector and the scalar potentials,
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not the electric field per se and the B field.
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It's the way you look at it, the way you use, again,
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physics should drive the mathematics not the other way around.
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I truly believe that.
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What's interesting is I read a paper recently because I've always been skeptical of scalar,
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longitudinal scalar wave theory, but I read it primarily because we don't see them.
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So the question is, I'm fundamentally an empiricist.
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Yeah, we're only going to see these.
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What's interesting is apparently there's a possibility of mistaking very small subharmonics
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in AC wave forms for, or I'm sorry, mistaking longitudinal
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with scalar waves for subharmonics.
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So the notion was if you expose some kind of a novel matrix,
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something like what we were talking about, that sort of pulls the wave form apart in the same
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manner that a prism pulls apart, you know, a light wave and shows you the different frequencies.
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That you might see something novel out of that that you're like, wait a second,
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that's not normal, that's perhaps your scalar wave.
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So there's a possible experimental approach to verification or discrediting.
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And don't forget the fundamental papers of ET Whitaker.
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1904, 1905, English British mathematician by the name of ET Whitaker,
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writes these two fundamental papers whereby he actually shows the scalar waves,
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So non-transverse waves are feasible.
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So matter of fact, wasn't that the Colonel Tom Bearden that mentioned this?
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Yeah, Tom Bearden talks about scalar physics.
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There's a guy now named V. High Belie, who publishes papers about Woodson and
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is another guy who publishes papers about extended electro-dynamics and these other way.
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I mean, these things are not expressly forbidden.
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Anything that's not forbidden by physics is allowable.
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Yeah, and the air now, though.
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Now is it engineerable?
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That depends on the genius of some people.
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Well, you need to polarize the vacuum again, right?
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Because it's all about the enegal rents equation, right?
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Having a sort of a gauge where the scalar vector potentials are automatically
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communicated or equals zero.
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But back, yeah, there might actually be real scalar and modular,
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scalar vector potentials that are present, even if magnetic field is not present.
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And the prosaic explanation for that is the electromagnetic force potential,
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but a lot of the proponents of an external electro-dynamic
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series that actually explains this stuff.
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This is why I think condensed matter physics is the most exciting field of physics today,
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because these things are being interrogated.
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And believe you don't forget Nikola Tesla.
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His idea of radiant energy is based on what?
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It's going to be the way.
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Well, he was totally against hurts, by the way.
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Tesla was very outspoken.
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No one to be here, he'd be in any way.
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Because he thought his own exotic weight.
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Well, he was experimented.
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Don't forget Einstein thought that Tesla was the most intelligent man in the world at one point in time.
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I'm never going to write to this today.
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I'm never consumed Einstein's commentary about Tesla.
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Tesla and Tons of Brown were doing the same thing.
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Tesla was doing similar stuff to what Tons of Brown was at the end of this career.
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That word he left in Colorado Springs,
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extremely high voltages across short distances,
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where you would expect to get these kind of anomalies,
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And somebody should ask the president the late about his uncle.
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Well, you want to know the one interview with John Trump is available in a documentary
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on the Philadelphia experiment.
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Philadelphia experiment is this blacky,
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sial, you know, experiment with towns in Brown and Goll.
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There probably was a real thing going on underneath the, you know,
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veneer of the fake thing that was distributed that Towns and Brown actually pulled up.
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But John Trump gets interviewed in this documentary by Bill Warren.
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And John Trump was tasked with looking through,
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right, Tesla's files when they confiscated him from his apartment in New York.
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And so he was the Nationalist.
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He was very close with Van Abartbush.
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If there is a legacy of a faux program,
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John Trump had to be, he was the top radar expert in the country.
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I think he even owned a company called High Voltage LLC for something like that.
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I believe Tesla physics, what uncle can bring these things down.
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This is our Trump card.
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I truly believe it's the genius of Nicolas Tesla that will one day help us in the upcoming,
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let's say, of there, such as in a customer war.
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Are you saying invasion?
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Well, that's what, I mean, that's what a career says.
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I don't like to talk about that.
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I think that's a bad, I think we shouldn't mess with the stuff.
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I'm not, I'm just not, I'm just not.
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I think they're way more advanced.
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Again, I believe we have properties.
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Oh, man, I think they're factions.
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And I think they're, they're good initiatory factions.
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And then they're bad, malevolent, more actively,
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fucking with us faction.
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Well, interesting math emerges when you look at the sheer number of galaxies,
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the sheer number of stars per galaxy, the age of the universe,
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the number of emergent species that can emerge from a given planet.
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The numbers blow up very quickly.
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So this notion of one, two, three, four species gets really strange,
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like, why aren't there 25,000?
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You know, why aren't there 30,000?
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And so I think there must, so on the nuts and bolts side,
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I think there are power scaling restrictions in play that restrict how far you can go.
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With any sort of FTL technology, but at the same time,
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I think it informs the political landscape.
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Yeah, well, we assumed, right,
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this like binary angels and demons or angels for demons.
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But it's not gray cells.
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Well, you have a hierarchy of being.
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It's likely more of a king, green explosion,
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more diversity on the food chain above you, maybe even then below you,
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or whatever, because you have these,
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you know, all sorts of path dependencies.
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And yeah, so maybe there's just, it just gets extremely complex.
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As a counterpoint, Peter Tillgibba, very interesting interview,
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where he talked about how he thinks there's an argument for the fact that,
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that there might be selective forces that lead to one very good and one very bad.
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And this, that this could give rise to the binary.
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And I raised, stay silent, and we talked about it,
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and it's very controversial,
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because there are people that hate this interpretation.
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Well, but I think it's very compelling.
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Well, it's compelling.
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The war between the children of life,
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and the children of darkness.
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And if it ever felt apocalyptic, it does now.
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I mean, look at what's going on.
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You look at where the war is actually taking place.
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It feels like we're in the book of Revelation.
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But like, I think the point he was making was that
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tech itself is a forcing function.
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And so if you have work drive tech,
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if you have faster than light tech,
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you never see it coming.
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It's hard to have your defense against that.
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That was an excellent point.
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And so because of that,
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you either have to inflict
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towards this totalitarian total clamp down
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one-world government state,
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or you need to reflect,
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inflict towards like complete altruism
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and like heart-centeredness.
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And if you have one,
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you know, maybe you'll be okay,
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you know, with the work drive tech,
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and it will be saving up humanity.
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And if you have the other,
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you just need total control.
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But, you know, that's not, that's a...
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I hope we don't slip in that direction.
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I believe the physics that will win
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is the physics that's based on creation,
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So, Victor Schauber,
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well, how do we get to it?
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Because a lot of this conversation is,
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you know, it's fascinating and it's mind-opening,
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but it's also bleak and scary.
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Because it's starting to dawn on me,
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just how we live in a multi-puller world,
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and you have these exotic lineages of physics
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that all of these countries are somewhat privy to,
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and they're very destructive.
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And so, how do we get to more generative,
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heart-centered, positive version of physics
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and the global landscape?
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Many roads lead to Rome,
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but there's only one via Apia.
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The one that the aqueduct was built along.
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It was the major road that led to Rome.
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So, there could be many roads that led to Rome,
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but there was one of choice,
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as usually followed by the legions.
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There may be just one way of doing it right.
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Can we find it before something tragic happens?
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What do you think that way is?
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You're an application.
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but it can't just be a physics solution.
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Can we every engineer human nature?
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I once asked that of Courage and Mangle.
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I think he's still thinking of it.
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Can we re-engineer human nature?
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That's where the secret of all this life.
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What are you talking about?
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I think it's possible.
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But again, I think it demands a great effort in our part
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to leave our individualistic ways and come together as one
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collective who willing to live in total equality.
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See, Marx attempted that.
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And yet, the practice of Marxism resulted in tremendous atrocities,
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Well, he was diagnostically...
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And you could say that it was the Leninist uprising and the revolution that led to Nazism,
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that led to national socialism.
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So in other words, everything came from trying to
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put this idea of equality into practice, but in the wrong manner.
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Because it formed elitism.
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Once you have elitism into an equation,
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you've destroyed everything.
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Well, it's just so anathema to human nature in Marxism.
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And maybe it's sort of diagnostically somewhat correct as far as how capitalism creates
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alienation dynamics or whatever.
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But for scriptively, it's just so beyond idealistic.
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But isn't it a beautiful thought, the equality of man?
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I think man, I don't like meritocracy.
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I think it's overused and kind of in a knowing way,
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but meritocracy is way better than equality.
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So the idea that we're all equal outcomes or whatever, that's crazy.
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Maybe some sort of equal footing or opportunity,
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but that even you end up with these sort of never-ending conversations of how exactly an engineer
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that, in these sort of technocratic ways, that lend themselves actually to powered co-op,
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and ultimately of people that don't even care about those things, it's sort of a bait and switch.
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So I don't know, I think it's a really hard conversation.
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If the 20th century was a refutation of anything, it was a refutation of these
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technocratic ideologies where you could have engineered society into anything.
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It was all these utopian ideologies and none of them weren't.
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Nazism, Bolshevism, communism, Trotskyist, Marxism, they all failed.
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I think it really was a refutation of the most deadly century we'd ever had.
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So I don't know how we get out of this, but it feels like it has to be a much more individual kind of.
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Maybe we need a common enemy from the outside.
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Oh, that doesn't seem really good or carries time at all.
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You're seeing that there would be an enemy from within.
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There would be a shifk column that there would be people taking their side.
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Well, I think the right thing is scary.
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The right thing is to look within.
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You know, it's to really look at yourself, think about who you are,
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and fix what's broken there.
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And I think that's probably a better path individually.
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I think we've seen enough microcosms of the outside enemy to assert,
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unfortunately, that there would be fifth columns and with some manner, speaking.
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That's what the prognists would emit.
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And again, that would only
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that there'd be some disruption to the idea of global unity by way of an external.
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Because the ideology is that there'd be so many people.
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So we must go at the most basic of units, the reengineering of human nature itself.
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Do we have enough software to do that?
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You know, I don't know if I believe in that.
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And some sort of sial.
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I mean, what do you guys think, you know, Reagan meant?
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What do you have rumors of like MacArthur?
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Why would you have said it in a plane session of the United Nations?
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So, yeah. So this is the story.
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Is the friggin was speaking with Gorbachev.
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Gorbachev tells the story that he says it in the interview.
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I think with Charlie Rose or something.
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And Reagan, the whisperer, is telling him right before the conversation started.
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He says, you know, hey, if aliens invaded, would you have our back?
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I mean, kind of kind of collodrate on that and defend the earth together.
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And Gorbachev was extremely taken aback.
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But yeah, this idea of kind of astral politics or something.
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Do you think that that and this idea that MacArthur,
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there were rumors that, you know,
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German interested though, what was Gorbachev's,
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was it then the affirmative?
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You said, if you said, yes, Mr. President, we would, we would de facto you.
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Is that real though?
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I mean, there's like Reagan, like kind of asking us in and where we're.
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Sometimes you have leaders that are meant to be there the right time
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under the right circumstance.
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If I believe they're born for that particular purpose,
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to make sure that earth is not pushed toward the precipice or tradition,
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maybe we're meant to have a certain balance between the children of darkness
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and the children of the light.
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And yet everything happens far away from equilibrium.
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Everything that's physically important.
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Jack, it crossed some light on that.
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And allegiously to the Pius effect, which takes place far from equilibrium, where,
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yeah, you know, you can,
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you can see these novel behaviors in the bulk.
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You have average behavior.
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You have average outcomes.
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And so he's making an analogy to that.
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I mean, you have thermodynamic law.
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And then it does seem like,
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it does seem like all these exotic effects
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that get into or like a result of like,
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quote unquote, higher-giphysics.
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Or like extremely granular manipulation of, you know, materials or whatever.
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And so it's like, it's you're really pushing the boundary.
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It's like, you have this, uh,
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Ten Wilson was a start physicist.
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We have this concept of re-normalization.
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And so he was like, it was, it's really used to describe phase transitions and materials.
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But it's like, you know, um,
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He's someone spoke against that idea, saying that it's like, uh, is like,
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putting, putting infinities under the rug,
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is like sweeping infinities under the, was it fine, man?
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But I'm just using really philosophically.
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It's just like pushing systems to their logical boundary in your case,
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the Schornner one there.
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Um, you get kind of weird effect.
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So like it is a famous quote,
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Agnew Bonson used sponsoring the Chapel Hill Conference
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and kind of creates spontane gravity,
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which sends physics down, it's called the set,
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Can we change what happened?
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But he's also hunting towns and groundswork back at the house.
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And he says, strange phenomena occur.
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And you have more incredible names.
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You have Bryce and Cecil DeWitt.
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You have John Wheeler.
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And you have Luth Witten.
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I wanted to ask you, uh,
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Bryce DeWitt in 1968 writes at the paper
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about, uh, superconductors and gravitational drag.
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Does that connect with your work at all?
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It's a lot of odd characters there.
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The whole, you know, the whole conference,
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you know, it was sponsored by,
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sponsored by right here, field.
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So very, very interesting history.
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And in Agnew Bonson himself was the patron,
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writes a book about man-made UFOs,
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the Star's Art Too High.
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Actually, it's about this plan to unite the world
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via this man-made UFO invasion.
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But, uh, he also, you know, says,
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strange things occur at high megaball,
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high megaball to cross short distances
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and he's describing towns and groundswork.
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So it's clear that pushing things to the limit
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even plasma itself is the fourth energy.
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State, we can't go beyond that, at least conceptually.
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You know, you get some greater truths by,
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you know, pushing the boundaries inside.
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Must always push the boundaries.
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But it's not this faustian,
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prometian, that, are you playing most fire when you push the boundaries?
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You know, you're sort of immanentizing the,
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if tech is an apocalyptic forcing function,
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are you immanentizing the eschaton while you do that?
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And is that about that?
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It's most certainly a point of inflection.
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It's a beautiful question now.
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That's a great question.
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True, Jack, you want to attack that one?
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It's most certainly a point of inflection forcing function,
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such that when you approach it,
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uh, under some, some black spawn event
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is going to take place.
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And I think that's where we talk about things that are way far
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The world is inflecting.
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I'm going, we're going to a weird timeline.
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the very strange one and time.
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You know, things that there may be,
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you know, I've always said this and I will hold this
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to this to my dying breath.
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The whole idea is that I describe matter
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as condense or rather,
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I said in a certain way,
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contained energy or rather,
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energy that's contained is bound within fields
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and frozen in a quantum of time.
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You know what I'm saying?
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in a quantum of time.
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You can find that regardless of that.
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that came no joke out of the quantum vacuum.
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Einstein was so much against the idea of look,
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he introduces it in 1921 on a paper.
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And everybody goes back on it.
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He says actually the ether is accountable with our,
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our orthodox physicist that already believed me
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at pseudoscientist and crack bottom chef.
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I don't want to force.
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Do you think that in your lifetime,
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on a sort of more mass,
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you get indicated in your work?
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It's a dream, brother.
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It's an absolute dream.
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Well, you know how many keys and sweat and blood
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nightmares and sleepless nights I've had.
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that's why the lack of paper means so much to me.
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That's why I honor that man.
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we're supposed to not like the Russians
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and not like the Chinese.
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We all people, brother.
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And that's why sometimes I trade
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for this external enemy because it's the one thing
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that will create a forcing function to
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unify us once and for all.
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A united air as it should be.
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do you think you should want to know about right now?
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Please, but put off absolutely.
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that paper is one of the papers that
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He's so early on every
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he's just implicated.
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I'm pretty sure that he's had many a sleepless night too
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and concerned about what others have
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Well, he's 88 and he's still
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maybe one thing to have to go or something.
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We watched James Locke just documentary to get rid.
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He's just sharp as a tack.
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He's got a lot of mind on that man.
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He'll slip that guy.
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And I, you know, I felt, especially when I met him,
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you know, maybe 2018,
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And like, I felt really crazy
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and thinking about all this stuff now like in
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Like, you know, you have those celebrities.
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And then I felt totally quacking
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because I was like really in a lot of
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deeper resonance with what he was like the one guy
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who I felt like was, you know,
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somewhat credible who really there's a
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It's very incredible.
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But because the deeper I've got so
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so serious, I realize he is.
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And just for context for the audience,
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we jettah was a rumored crash.
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I believe in balloon.
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Yeah, yeah, that ended up.
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Sands for like the next 11, 12 years.
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It was actually going to be held at the
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Vatican at some point.
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And then it would learn to rub it to the US.
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So well, I think it, we do think
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it'd be what's Germany,
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but we don't know when for sure or whatever.
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And Grosch wouldn't speak to when it came here.
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It's in the Netherlands and all that.
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some heavy physics there.
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It's possible it was a first one-off
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vehicle that we had at some point before
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Roswell that, you know,
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was it right for you or something like that?
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So you think that picture of the,
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because you see pictures of
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you know, and Czechoslovakia and Poland.
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And you see this testering
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that's like shaped like,
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you know, it looks like an a-corner
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bell or something to be fit in there.
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You think they were testing made
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I've heard it's also very effective on that cell.
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why have that shape at all?
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Why that shape in particular?
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and that was transferred maybe to a right path or something?
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Like, like at the end of the war
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when we got in or something like that.
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That would be very interesting.
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Or if it wasn't as serious as hell,
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it's because it's the implications of.
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But so do you think that was a UFO crash?
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you don't have some sophisticated
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they're building like,
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they need to probably try again.
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So you think people like maybe,
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maybe grow off bigger this.
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What I'm worried about is,
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the friend of Dr. Joseph Fereau,
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the whole idea of Nynza,
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who the fuck were these guys?
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what I'm going mystery.
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What's going on here?
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Because that's around
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That speaks to the vice-effects.
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Yeah, but that's a really quick translation
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from physics to engineering.
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You think the 1890s airships,
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that those sounds are interesting.
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Engineering geniuses back there.
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Look at Nikola Tesla.
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But that's, that would just be wild.
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That's beyond belief to me.
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What if it's all fucking connected?
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You think it could all be human stuff
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All of the records could be gone, you know.
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I mean, with that's just a crazy cover,
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and just use the empty craft.
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Uh, because they never,
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again, I believe they're fucking craft.
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That's just a manipulation of the super force.
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How the fuck do you do that?
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How to, how do you manipulate something
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I keep that secret for 140 years.
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That seems to create it.
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They also didn't have a lot of material,
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technology advances yet, you know, sometimes survival makes you crazy.
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They would need some sort of
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pericycological read access to, you know, control.
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They would need, you know, they would need the line stuff.
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or possibly a brotherhood of the occult.
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Yeah, something like that, like a breakaway civilization.
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Breakaway civilization.
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Arriving as an insights.
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Read up on Dr. Fels ideas and breakaway civilization.
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Don't forget Richard Dolan.
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But who is, who in the 1890s would have done
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privy to heavy sides insights in a way that allowed them to finance
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the building at China, these exotic crowd?
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Now, there's some powerful families back there.
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I'm not going to name names.
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These are still extremely powerful.
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It's much better that we know certain names,
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but we don't know the invisible ones.
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Because touching, even on the invisible ones existence,
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it's not a good idea.
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And impact our survival.
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And again, none of us here are suicidal.
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We love being alive.
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It's not cool to say.
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Change to the direction of the shaman.
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All I was going to say was, I was, I was,
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I was in graduate school doing,
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I was doing pulse IC fusion work when I went to a conference to present.
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I was introduced to, or Davis,
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you know, the way, uh, and sunny white.
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And how sunny white,
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now just to mention sunny white during all staff, it turns out.
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The news was helping write that book at the time,
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repeating a lot of book.
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That book opened my eyes, man.
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So you think sunny white, you know,
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is, was a Das engineer.
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And he's trying to implement the,
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I could be a work drive.
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And I think now we should have funded by DARPA,
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is company called limitless or something like that.
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Do you think there's anything to it?
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Dr. White is right on the money.
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have you noticed he hasn't published anything lately?
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And I think they said it for elders or things.
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That shit happened right before,
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Anyway, so this like Hampton,
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Langley, Inc., last year that we now are understanding,
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You know, what I'm talking about,
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you have an air force base.
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You have parts 17 day,
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Inc., where it seems like drones are
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swarming around the area in our air space.
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We have no defense against this.
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It seems like there's maybe a mothership.
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Chris Melons, that there's a mothership.
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What do you think about that?
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What do you make of it?
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Let me ask one crucial question here.
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I don't know why people don't ask these questions.
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Fine. Take care of life.
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I don't know that they would.
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it would be highly concealed.
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Do you think they do?
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I don't think anybody was killed.
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There should be an answer to your question.
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But I'm not going to go for it.
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Is it actually terrestrial?
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I'm not going to go for it.
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Again, show this e-tect and this man-made
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Many roads lead to Rome, but there's only one via
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If it's adversarial, it's
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if it's some advanced tech,
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they've got it way away from their shoulders.
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And over our territory where it could be
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down and captured by us and
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and many reverse engineering.
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It's only reason that it's
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kept full of adversarial
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But at the same time,
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there were witness reports that
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There was the rhodob
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we took that, you know.
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But I think we remember the reverse
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And this are speaks to this.
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why he was there to begin with?
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He was there's a replacement for
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someone that had gotten killed trying to
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what use a blowtorch to go for this
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why could they never crack that
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because because they're
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bucket physics talks to
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engineering the super force?
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I don't think we can do that.
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manmade tech that can go around.
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complex of problems has the
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simplest of solution,
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Why did we found another
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John is a thing problem.
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So you have spoken publicly with
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a guy named Ashton Forbes,
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corner of these MH370 videos.
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And these are these videos where you
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see these three orbs
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and they seem to circle.
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All right, the damage 370 is this
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It was on CNN for like, you know,
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And it seemed like this civilian
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aircraft carrying passengers just
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disappeared in the South East Asian
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And this guy Ashton Forbes took
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to Twitter maybe around a year ago
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saying he thinks this is manmade
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tech and that the craft was somehow
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teleported out of the sky.
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Don't forget they Rossi's force
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That's why Ashton now goes by four
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It's your stand for orbs.
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There must be four orbs.
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Remember the whole idea that
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once you open the black hole,
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what if there is a white hole?
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But the three, the three orbs
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would have your three axis
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hence your point of origin.
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But there must be a destination.
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So there must be a photo.
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Meaning they did not.
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There must be a photo orb.
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So you think this is.
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They've Rossi came up with this idea
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that there must be a photo orb.
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I think he's won't write on the money.
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They Rossi is a very interesting engineer
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that should be looked into as well.
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So she's very smart.
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Why would brilliant teleported commercial
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airplane and where did the airplane end up?
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It's always at the plot.
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But all I'm saying is when I show that thing open up,
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I saw the price effect and I actually
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and I told Ash and Ford that was his first
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podcast hard troops podcast.
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I told him this is the price attack from God.
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So you think we have room to produce
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your secret payments and talk back to those
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orbs also speak to a G.I.
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artificial general intelligence autonomy
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So we're talking about artificial
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I think I don't know.
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I just didn't even have the points and he goes
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and he goes there's an iron triangle.
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He goes the eight he goes AI
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quantum and the grush stuff.
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He says, he was talking to somebody who was like,
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deep in national security world or whatever.
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He was like the triangle,
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the connection between those three things is somehow
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this incredible technological signal.
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Again, gross domain disciplines coming together,
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fusion of these ideas and resounding into what?
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Distructing technology.
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Exactly what Jack was talking about.
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I hope one day you give your correct name
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because you're brilliant.
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People should know you as you are.
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Do you think that any of this stuff makes it
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into our civil infrastructure?
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I mean, we're sitting in the
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K weaponization by God's forbid, a third party,
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I don't think this is hard to engineer.
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So basically the physics stagnation,
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we have to our physics has to be stagnated because...
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Can you imagine some not,
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some effin person that hates the world?
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Well, my hope is that these nanostructure three
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lattices turn out to be really hard to make.
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Interestingly, it would be fabs like TSMC,
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Structurers, you need cell nanowhears,
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you need to cell ice rooms,
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where is it nanometers,
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ten to eight meters,
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to manufacture the structure of the...
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So, what if there's another way?
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What if there's a resonance-based way
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That's not based on material composition.
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There's now a base-time fabrication method
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of fabrication protocols, procedures.
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You don't want to nut
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and figure that out.
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That would be a bad day in hell.
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Or heaven, either way.
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What do you want the world to know?
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What sort of message do you have
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for people who are there?
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100% need unification.
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We need people to come together.
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And if these ideas can bring them together
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then so much better for it.
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But too many things are dividing us now.
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And what we need is a unifying factor.
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Do you want to build a UFO to take us up Earth?
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What I want to build is
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something that can defeat an external enemy,
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one that's external to Earth.
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So, let's say, somewhere close to Proxima Santoria,
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as we're speaking right now,
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an alien armada is being formed.
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I would like for us,
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us, everyone in this room, to come together
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and with other people,
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bring together our minds
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to create in what...
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See, one thing about what Dr. Eric Weinstein is saying
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is that he thinks that the best of the best,
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the greatest physicists should be brought together
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to come up with these ideas.
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I think even Joe the Plumber can contribute,
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given common sense and enough knowledge.
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As a man, if I look at Ashland Forbes,
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I am completely surprised what he's been able
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to achieve in almost a year,
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starting this physics on his own.
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Look into his podcasts.
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This guy has come up quite a bit.
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He does not have a physics, a physics pedigree.
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what a Joe the Plumber comes up with the greatest
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physics idea of the moon.
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Whatever that may be.
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But one, again, that helps us come together as an Earth.
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This interview is coming on the backs of congressional hearings.
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No, actually, he didn't issue around the existence of not human intelligence
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and unidentified anomalous phenomena,
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but also programs thereof,
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housed in the government around data collection,
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quarantining, easy up those tracking,
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and that sort of thing.
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What did you think of the revelation of a macular constellation?
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This idea of this top-seeker program around UFOs?
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Do you mean immaculate constipation?
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Because I believe such little information was excreted
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from those hearings that one could not fathom
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for example, coming together, unifying these concepts into something that can save
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us, homo sapiens sapiens from an external atom.
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If we continue on with this trickle by trickle disclosure, this farce,
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again, immaculate constipation,
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we will get nowhere, absolutely nowhere.
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there are deeper programs than immaculate consultations?
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You think that's sort of...
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I'm guaranteed at arrow.
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We'll get nowhere in no time at all.
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So in other words, nothing will come of it again.
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You should come with me.
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Don't generate another great report that will say absolutely nothing.
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So there's a Senate hearing that's coming week
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into error of its activities and error of its release of report.
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You should come with me.
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That would depend on my higher ups.
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Anyway, because of certain personal issues,
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If my higher ups decide I would be of use,
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But again, please let someone drive me there.
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Yeah, do you have anything else?
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You want to get it in the end?
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Let's see what we got.
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Dr. Salpaísus is an absolute honor.
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We appreciate your kindness.
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The Ana was all mine, sir.
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And please, you are our intellectual equal.
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Watch your certain things you've said during the end
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that you make me say that.
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I would not say that otherwise.
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I don't just come up with stuff.
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I get auditioned instincts and maybe I will not.
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Whatever it is, it is the glamour of hope.
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And we need all the hope we can have.
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Appreciate that, man.
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Remember where that?
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Please, please, don't.
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Looks good, but all right.
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