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By the end of the day today, federal agencies will turn overall all information they have
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about UFOs or unidentified aerial phenomena known as UAPs, so the National Archives, which
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will then be made public.
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This comes as the Pentagon was just pressed on this very issue.
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I'm going to take the shot.
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What do you got on UFOs, aliens, etc.?
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The truth is out there, Jeff.
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And the truth is, we have no evidence to indicate extra-trustoral life has visited
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Well, here with us is Ryan Graves.
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He is the first active duty fighter pilot to go public and discuss sightings.
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He is also the founder of Americans for Space Aerospace Ryan.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thanks for having me this morning.
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You were an F-18 fighter pilot with the U.S. Navy.
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You are one of the first active duty pilots to go public about sightings of UAPs.
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Can you tell us what you saw in the skies?
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We came back from our deployments while we were doing our normal duties on the Eastern
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And we upgraded our radars and began to see objects in our working areas just off the
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coast of Virginia Beach that we just didn't know how to explain.
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They were often stationary or even moving supersonic.
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And eventually we got close enough to these objects to break them out.
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And they would often look like a dark cube, either black or gray, inside of a clear
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And you went up your chain of command and told them what you saw.
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What was the reaction you got?
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Well, unfortunately we were only able to get so far up the chain before we hit a wall.
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My presumption would be that this was an issue that would get resolved through some normal
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chain of through some some way.
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But unfortunately that wasn't the case.
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And it was just an issue that was ongoing and that we had to mitigate ourselves.
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You testified before a House Oversight Committee about your experience.
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What motivated you to go public here, Ryan?
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Well, my motivation was simple.
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When I saw the 2017 New York Times article in the videos that were released, I realized
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that that was really a cry for help and that my colleagues on the East Coast and elsewhere,
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were still just trying to manage this issue on their own.
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And so my goal was to simply be able to provide whatever information and value that I could
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in order to mitigate the situation since it was it was going on mitigated through leadership.
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So we're talking about the deadline for these documents to be handled handed to the National
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What do you ultimately hope to learn from any information disclosed by federal agencies
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when it comes to these UAPs?
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Well, I think we have to be a bit with our expectations.
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First off, there is going to be classified information that is submitted to the National
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And that doesn't mean that we'll necessarily get access to that information.
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So it had been revealed recently that the Department of Defense and other organizations
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have actually now until 2025 in order to release this information on a rolling basis.
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So I would not expect all this information to come out right now and that we'll be seeing
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this over the next year come out in groupings.
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However, we have to understand that most of the information we would expect to be in a
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highly classified format.
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And so I don't necessarily have high hopes that this information release is going to provide
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the type of closure that most people are hoping for.
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Yeah, I want to add to what you just said.
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We know Congress is planning more UFO hearings come November in just a few weeks.
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What do you hope to hear and learn from these hearings?
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Well, of course, it would be nice to have some whistleblowers that were actually involved
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in the program or that have detailed information.
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In addition, there has been some recent releases about a macular constellation and some work
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that supposedly has been done to stop this information from promulgating to the rest of
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the defense enterprise.
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And so my hope would be that we get more information around how the government is really handling
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this information internally and how they're stopping the rest of the DOD enterprise from
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really having access to this information.
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And not just DOD, but of course, by the constitutionally mandated members of Congress who are supposed
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to be privy to this type of information.
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Ryan, do you think the government is taking this seriously enough?
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I believe certain parts of the government are certainly taking this serious.
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However, I don't think that information is being promulgated to the rest of the Department
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of Defense or Intelligence Communities.
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And so there's a gap of awareness.
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And that gap of awareness affects our planning for future missions and defensive capabilities.
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And I think therein lies the largest fault of this issue is that we're exposing ourselves
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to this national security gap, if you will, and that without full understanding of what we're
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dealing with, we're going to continue in that unsteady, uncertain, unsafe position.
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All right. And as more documents come out and these hearings are underway,
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we hope you come back. Ryan, great. Thank you for your time.
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My pleasure. Thank you.
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