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Investigators gone that far to make connections?
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I'm joined by somebody who has been tracking
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every one of these stories, connecting the dots herself,
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asking the questions that others aren't.
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Los Angeles Magazine contributor Lauren Conlin.
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Great to see you again.
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Not wearing an alien dress, totally fine.
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Who is this guy, Garcia?
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Steven Garcia, man Jesse, this one is chilling to me
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because as you said, it echoes
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Neil McCaslin's disappearance right down to the state.
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It's like the same thing.
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The state of New Mexico.
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So Steven Garcia, I mean, he had a top security clearance
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Is that per a source though?
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This is per a source.
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Yes, per a source that was close to Garcia.
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But look, where he worked at KCNSC,
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I mean, they manufacture 80% of non-nuclear components
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that go into building military nuclear weapons.
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And I mean, he oversaw tens of millions of dollars
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of assets, equipment, some classified, some not.
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I mean, we don't know what was going on
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in this guy's head, right?
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The officials had said that he may have been a danger
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He was seen carrying a gun.
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And it sounds crazy, but between Garcia and General McCaslin,
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I have to wonder, and again, I know this sounds crazy,
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but it could be an option here.
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I mean, is the government doing this?
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Are they taking out their own people because of XYZ?
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And wait, I want to point something else out to you, Jesse.
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Please do. I don't even want to interrupt you.
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I literally, I'm on a roll.
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But tomorrow, April 14th, that is when Rub Anna Luna
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gave Pete Hegseth this deadline.
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She requested 46 UAP videos.
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And look, there's a good reason behind it.
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I mean, these videos she detailed in this filing,
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and they say, you know, Iran, XYZ date, you know, 2022,
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Syria, XYZ date, shaped like a cigar.
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You know, this is a matter of national security.
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And this is important because in real time,
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we don't know what's in the sky.
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We don't know if this is some kind of, you know, a UAP.
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We don't know if it's a drone.
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We just, we don't know enough.
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Are you getting any official word from authorities,
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investigators that are maybe trying to link these 10 episodes?
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Are they all disconnected?
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They're saying you can't make a connection.
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Because again, I mean, you think you laid it out very well.
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There are eerie similarities.
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Of course there are.
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You're absolutely right.
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And I've, you know, I've reached out to Rep Burleson's office,
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Rep Birchett's office.
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And I did hear back from Burleson's office last week.
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And look, they said, you know,
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they haven't heard directly from the White House.
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And they haven't brought up General McCaslin's disappearance at all.
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They were being very safe with me, I want to say.
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Rep Birchett's office didn't respond to me at all.
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But Birchett just said, I forget what show he was on,
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but he just said he talked to, quote,
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folks at the White House about this
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and that President Trump is about to do some disrupting.
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I just don't believe it.
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Obama tried to release these UFO files.
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Clinton tried to release them.
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People think Trump is different.
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But what's so different?
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There has been a lot of questions about,
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did they get any call?
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Did they get any messages?
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Because just to leave the House allegedly armed
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in such a strange way,
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I mean, even with McCaslin,
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there's an allegation that he didn't want to be found.
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And anything about what they were up to in the days,
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weeks, hours before?
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So there is nothing public.
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And I mean, I am digging right now.
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You know, it's tough.
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You want to reach out to family members.
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You want to reach out to friends,
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but you want to do it in, you know,
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in a way that's not so invasive.
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I mean, these are...
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Their family members are missing.
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This is very serious.
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And, you know, I saw a Facebook post.
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I think it was his niece who was like,
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has anyone seen my uncle just begging, pleading?
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And so you really have to think about,
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you know, the protections for whistleblowers as well.
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There's so much that needs to be said.
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You might not know the answer to this.
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Did they know each other?
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Did any of these people know each other,
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work together in the same Venn diagram?
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I mentioned New Mexico together, but...
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Well, we discussed last week,
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we discussed Monica Reza,
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who worked alongside or underneath Neil McCaslin,
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and they both were stationed at Wright-Patterson.
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So there is a connection there.
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You know, I haven't made connections
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between any of the others just yet.
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I do, you know, know that it is interesting.
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Carl Grillmare, I've been looking into his death,
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the Caltech astrophysicist,
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I did notice some neighbors in the area,
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and he lives in a very remote area.
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They also worked in aerospace research,
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which, again, I am...
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I wish I had all day to focus on this story, Jesse.
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I will get the answers.
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It's not going anywhere.
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It's not going anywhere.
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It's being amplified again and again and again,
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because this is so strange on so many different levels.
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I know you're going to stay on top of it.
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Lauren Conlon, great to see you.
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Thanks for giving us some insight.
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Thank you so much, Jesse.
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Thanks for pointing us.
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Thanks for bringing us.
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