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Hello, and welcome to this episode of Mysteries with History. It's been a very long time since
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we've done one of these, but I'm very happy that we're able to do one today. And today
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we're looking at how all of these current events that are happening in the UFO world,
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how they parallel to things that have happened in the past. Many of these things that we are now
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seeing on the news, we've seen before a few years ago, a few decades ago. So I got to bring in
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someone who's been in this topic for many decades, and that is my co-host, Jimmy Church of Aida Black
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Radio. Jimmy, happy Thursday. We've missed you. It's been too long. Yeah, many, many decades,
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huh? We're going there. Isn't it true? Yeah, man. How you doing? Doing really good. How are you?
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I am fantastic. Yeah, it's been a minute, hasn't it? It's been a minute. Hello, everybody. How you doing?
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And yeah, yeah. It's pretty interesting before I even ask, you know, what brings up this subject
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this week? Well, first off, we've had time to think about things, haven't we, lately? But
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this community, and I say it all the time, gets really excited. The newer people to the subject
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that are here, that disclosure is happening, right? It's happening. It's happening. Well,
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there's that element of it. But when you've been at this for a while, like some of us have,
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we've been through these things before, and you see things repeating themselves. This week,
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Christina, I was in Sedona, Arizona. And when I was on stage, you know, and everybody's excited,
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and I said, I said to the audience, I said, you know, back in 2017, when disclosure was just right
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around the corner, remember that? Remember that? Remember that excitement, New York Times, all of
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that? I said, it's now 2026. It's 2026. Nearly 10 years have passed. So I think that you are right
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when you look at this, and you see things starting to repeat themselves. The newer influx of people
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interested in the subject that joined our community are starting to get a little taste of things,
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right? It's just not that simple, is it? And I'll throw it back to you. You and I have been doing
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this show, and I've been working together for a number of years, haven't we?
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We have. It's been a long time.
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It's been a long time. And do you remember your excitement?
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Oh, yeah. No, I'm still excited. No, no, no. I'm still excited. But it's a different level of
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excitement, I think.
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Right. Right. I don't want to imply that, certainly. But now you've had, you know, almost
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10 years to look at since the New York Times. But with your research, and you go and you see,
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it's like, I've been here before. Right? It's like a deja vu.
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It definitely feels that way. And especially with a lot of the things that are covered here on this
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show with the daily UFO news updates. In many respects, for things I look at and I said, oh,
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my gosh, I heard this a few years ago. But it's being either packaged a little bit differently.
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Other people are saying it that have a little bit more credibility than 5-10 years ago. And
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that's what this show is really dedicated to. We don't have a lot of time today. So let's get
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really deep into it. Probably one of the biggest things on people's minds right now
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is obviously Trump saying, OK, we're going to release files. Right. Luna did an interview,
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actually quite a few interviews over the weekend. One of them with Bill Maher, one of them with
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Jillian. Her last name escapes me, but we all know who I'm talking about. And she said that she feels
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very optimistic that Trump will release these files. And it's very 50-50. Half of the country is like,
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yes, I'm so pumped. We're going to get these files. The other half of the country is like, no,
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I don't see it. I don't see it happening. And it's been this narrative across multiple presidents
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all the way to Carter, actually, if not even before then, that they have shown an interest in this topic,
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either having their own UFO sightings or wanting to release the files, especially to win a vote during
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their presidential campaigns, which we saw very specifically prevalently in 2016. And so while I
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think a lot of us are very excited to see what will be released with Trump with the new website that was
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purchased, alien and aliens dot gov, even though it hasn't been live yet, we don't really know what's
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going to be dropped. Is it going to deal with illegal aliens? Is it dealing with just like trolling
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the US like what Eric Burleson said to ask a poll a few days ago? Everything is up in the air. But Luna says
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that she feels very confident in this. But the reasons why I'm bringing this up in the parallel to this is that
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during Jimmy Carter's presidency, back in 19 in 1970s, he's like, All right, guys, when I become president, I'm going
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to release these files. But he never did, even though it felt like a really big promise. He's like, Hey, I've had my own
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UFO sighting. I want to drop all this info. But instead, we hear the story Jimmy years later, that
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allegedly he was briefed on UFOs. And right after the meeting, he was either crying, or what Eric Davis
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says he was praying inside of the Oval Office after getting that news. Do you think we're going to follow
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that same pattern where there's this big promise and it's going to drop nothing? Or do you think we're in a
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different environment now where Trump has to deliver? We're dealing with, I think that the short answer
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is no. I don't want to, I don't want to have to say that I don't want to say no. But the legacy programs
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that deal with ET contact, reverse engineering, any knowledge, the acquiring of data, those legacy
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programs outlive and will continue to outlive anybody who occupies the White House. So just saying,
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you know, we're going to do this. You're not the boss. You're simply not. The legacy programs
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will continue. There is somebody there that controls the on and off switch, right? The spigot,
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all right, the garden hose that is squirting out information, that is not run by the White House.
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And when the administration flips over and a new one is brought in, the legacy programs continue.
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Those that are in control of that information continue. Now, will they decide, you know, will it
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come to a point where they will do that? That's independent of the White House and it will always
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be that way. You're right about Jimmy Carter. It happened right before him with Gerald Ford.
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And Gerald Ford, before he became president in the state of Michigan, where they had the swamp gas
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incident, right? When that went down, he called for hearings in Congress. And he was very, very upset
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about how that case was handled. And that was his mission was to go and get this out to the public.
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He wanted the truth to be told. It didn't happen with Gerald Ford. You look at Ronald Reagan,
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of course, the comments from Bill Clinton and Barack Obama on different late night shows discussing this.
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It really seemed like things were eminent and right around the corner. What precipitated all of this
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was Obama's interview on a podcast where he said those three words, aliens are real. A couple of days
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later, things started to get stirred up there in the White House. And of course, President Trump said
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he's going to tell the Department of War, not the Department of Defense, but the Department of War to
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disclose and let everything go. What happened? Well, these two websites, aliens.gov and alien.gov,
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to be secured, what is the purpose of that? Is that going to be the dumping ground of the
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information? Right. We don't know. I think it was Trump's daughter, daughter-in-law. Before we move
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on. She also said that there was a speech prepared that he's got. And it's like, is this really close?
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I would like to say yes. I just feel that it's no. So let's see. Now, one last thing before we move on,
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because we do have a lot of parallels, is the information that could be dumped and revealed
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to us, is it going to be just stuff that is already known? You know, stuff from Project Blue Book,
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stuff that's already in the public domain, stuff that is already on the black vault,
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other comments from the past, from the Department of Defense, you know, just things that we already
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know about? Or will there be something groundbreaking and new if they do do it? That's the big question.
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So, you know, we're right back to where we were, right? History repeating itself, sitting on our hands
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and wondering what's about to happen.
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When we're looking at, you mentioned President Ford and his frustration with the topic and how it was
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being handled and all the things that people were telling him about their UFO sightings and it not
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being properly handled by Project Blue Book. Aren't we seeing the exact same thing now? We have
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congressmen like Tim Burchette, Anna Paulina Luna, Eric Burleson, Jared Mascovich, and quite a few others
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that are showing that same level of frustration decades later. And while back then they had Project
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Blue Book to go and investigate these UFO sightings, now we have Arrow. It doesn't do boots on the ground
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investigations that we know of, but they are collecting a lot of data, mainly from military
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personnel and government officials and a few common ones like from the public, but very rarely.
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We're seeing that same level of frustration. We're seeing that same level of they're not doing
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their job right. Blue Book was under such heavy scrutiny that it had to be shut down only after
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a few years of it while it was an operation. Now, Luna says, we need to defund Arrow. We need to get
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rid of it, defund it, throw it away. And you know what? Let's subpoena Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick while we're at it.
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Why do you think nothing has changed? Is Arrow Project Blue Book 2.0? Some are going to say yes,
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but I want to hear it from you. From these two parallels, do you think we're seeing the exact
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same project or is there anything different in your opinion?
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No, I think that project, the Arrow and that whole idea was a sham from the beginning.
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It wasn't intended to do anything. It was a Project Blue Book 2.0 where you are going to explain things
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away and hope that they are forgotten. Right? And that was the purpose of Project Blue Book.
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But here, that's such an excellent point. But let me tell you why I think it's an excellent point.
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With everything that is going on right now, and there is a lot. I'm not talking about UFOs. I'm
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talking about the planet. Wow. Right? What a crazy news cycle that we just find ourselves in.
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What is amazing that with everything that is going on in Washington, D.C., not only overseas and
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geopolitical and wars and all that, the other stuff that is going on internally in this country,
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that we still have elected officials that are keeping the focus on disclosure UFOs and UAPs.
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That is very, very impressive. I don't know how they are able to, in a 24-hour day,
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get sleep in and work and deal with everything else. I just don't see how that's possible.
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Plus doing interviews on top of that.
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All of that. I remember you and I talking about this like six months ago.
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And about we cannot let the news and everything else that is going on have that take over the
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subject of disclosure. It's like a Pandora's box for me, right? It's so easy to just cover up,
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cover up, cover up, cover up anything that you want, you know, washed out and away from the public
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eye with the media is to just do another breaking news story. And there has been one after another.
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I'll give you a really good example of that. We have a missing general, McCaslin, right? He's missing.
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That is crazy. We have Savannah Guthrie, right? And her mom. How crazy is that? It's one thing after
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another that buries these crazy stories that were the biggest story that, you know, the lead thing.
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And it just gets pushed back and pushed back and pushed back. And McCaslin is not the only one.
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There are many here in my neighborhood. We had a Caltech physicist working with the James Webb Space
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Telescope, searching for exoplanets and alien life. That's his gig that he ran at, at Caltech,
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right? The same week that McCaslin disappears, he shot in the face on his front porch, right,
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right here in my neighborhood. And that story, as big as that should have been, is buried. You know,
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it's one thing after another. It's, it's crazy. I'll tell you something else, you know, that isn't in the
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news. Do you know how many meteors that turned into meteorites that turned into flaming balls that
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have covered this country in the last week? It's every single day, every single day. And for some
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reason, the news doesn't want to cover this. It's like, we have never had this many flaming rocks over
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cities, like in the history of anything. And nobody wants to cover that. We had four last night.
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What? Yes. No, I didn't even know this. That's my point. This is why you cover this on your show with
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your daily news updates, because we need people like that, that aren't the mainstream media, that
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are covering things that are so strange. What? Yes, exactly. Which is exactly my point. It's,
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it's a crazy thing that we live in right now. So let's, let's, let's, let's move on. Okay. So
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I was just talking about McCaslin, the current event, obviously whistleblower scientists, insiders,
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and, and the personal attacks and the retaliation that goes on this. This is exactly going back to your
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project blue book scenario. It's wash, rinse, repeat. This style has been going on. How many times
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have we heard in our community that we don't want to deal with Washington on the UFO and disclosure
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subject? Because we have been called tinfoil hat. We've been called, uh, psychotic individuals,
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uh, liars, you know, personal attacks on this community that have gone back for decades, decades,
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decades, decades. And that is a method of operation that those that want to destroy somebody or their
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words, that's what they do. Right. They go and they personally attack David Grush with his medical
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records being leaked to the media. Right. That's, that's just disgusting. And he's certainly not the
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only one, but that's exactly what has gone on here for decades to those new to the community. I get it.
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This is a fantastical stuff. This is crazy. How could they do that? Well, you know what? It's been
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going on forever. This is a mode of operation and a spy versus spy, the CIA versus the KGB and everything.
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That's exactly what, if you want to destroy somebody, you get information on them and then you turn around
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and disclose it. And it's almost like it's just a job. Like it means nothing to them.
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That's right. It's a form of blackmail. Right. If you, if you really think about it, it's exactly
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what it is. Yeah. It's, uh, it's unbelievable. Okay. Next subject. Go ahead.
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All right. Well, actually, no, I just want to again, touch on these scientists and whistleblowers
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and those inside that are facing these levels of persecution right now. We've heard a lot from
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Matthew Brown. Uh, he did quite, he did one or two interviews going into detail that him,
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Jeho Nusatelli, Dylan Borland, all these people within government jobs have been persecuted by the
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government because of what they saw and them addressing it to where they lose their clearances.
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They lose their job. They become financially unstable. They, their families get ruined. And even those
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helping them, like not even the whistleblowers, but those attempting to help these people are also
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being targeted and harassed by those that do not want to see people like Matthew Brown and others
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succeed in talking about this publicly so much. So they have now created their own nonprofit to take
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care of whistleblowers, because even though the government was like, Hey, we will protect you. We will
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release these laws so that you can provide this information willingly, happily, and be protected.
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It turns out when Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland went to go visit Tulsi Gabbard at the Liberty
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Crossing in Washington, DC, there was no mention of whistleblower protection. Actually, instead it had
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nothing. Those meetings had nothing to do with it. And what was really scary that Matthew Brown had
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stated was that other people before him that went to those exact same meetings, noticed that their phones
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were hacked, all their data was downloaded, so that he didn't bring his phone over to the meeting. What I'm
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getting at here is that if it's David Grush, if it's these new public people coming forward, this level of
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persecution has happened for decades. We can even look at very dangerous and scary instances of Paul Benowitz, even
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though he wasn't a whistleblower. It's believed he had a lot of information on the topic of UFOs and what
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the government was doing with other entities and craft. We could even look at James Forrestal, who was
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supposed to know a lot about UFOs, again, bringing in McCaslin, who's also supposed to know a lot about
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UFOs, so much so that Eric Burleson was given a tip off that he should contact McCaslin right before he
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disappeared. So Grush and Burleson attempted to do so. And he had nothing to say, he didn't want to
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talk to them, or those phone calls and emails just kept getting blocked, like they were not able to get
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into any type of conversation or communication with him. While we all want whistleblowers to come
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forward, while we all want them to spill their guts out and say, like, Okay, what happened? It's a lot
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scarier than than what we publicly perceive. And even when Michael Herrera had made a comment on X,
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a few months ago, he said, Don't come forward, you will regret it. It's not worth it, you will gain
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nothing, but you will lose everything. So it's very hard to ask these people to sacrifice.
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And coming from Herrera, and I know Michael, right, I hung out with them. And I got to tell you,
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he's got arms the size of telephone poles. He's not intimidated. Right? So if he turns around and he
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says something like this, you really kind of have to listen to him. Because you just observe me like
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nothing, nothing could shake this guy. Right? Well, yeah, I, I often wonder about that. And
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specifically with Matthew Brown, again, I was with Danny Sheehan this weekend, and we were talking
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about Matthew and, and, and what was going on with that. Here we go with the comments attributed and
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pointed at Matthew, or that he's lying. He made it all up. And none of it is true. And I, where do you put
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the onus on this? Do you put it on the people that are saying that? And where they go, there is no
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information here. Do you put it on Matthew? Okay, it's time to tell us exactly what is going on. And
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what information do you have? What data do you have? What side do you put it on? To say that he's lying
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and making it all up. If you are going to assume that position, and take that position, you kind of need
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to back that up, you know, and none of this, Christina, none of this can really go to court.
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None of it can really go to court. In a defamation case, when we're dealing with whistleblowers and
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with like David Grush, how do you, how do you do that? How do you take this to court? And how is
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evidence going to be presented in a case like that? That's the problem, right? Well, that's, that's the
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problem that David Grush is attempting to fulfill because the answer to that, according to Eric
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Burleson is finding the exact file names, the exact dates, but most prevalently the file name. So
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someone like David Grush should know this information. So what when they find it, they can
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provide it to the FBI and say, Look, you denied this, but here is the file number, go look in your
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records. And that the only reason to why Burleson knows that is because that happened a few months
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ago in Congress, they were doing some paperwork. And I can't remember exactly what it was, but it
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wasn't about UFOs. And they use that method, and it worked. So now they're applying that same method
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to the top to this topic, topic of UFOs and UAP, that Grush is wanting to fulfill, Brown, Borland and
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others want to fulfill. And that might be the loophole is saying, Hey, I have this specific information,
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the specific file number. The only difficulty is that if you're not part of the government, if you
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don't have access or a clearance to get those files, you're off a creek without a paddle, like you're
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not going to get those, those file numbers. But you just can't, you just can't say, well, it's crash
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retrievals. Well, there's just no way to get there. And the other part about this, and this is something
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that we've talked about an awful lot. Very conveniently, most of this are with private
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corporations. Okay. Yes. By design. Free, free. Exactly. So Freedom of Information Act. Yeah. Well,
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go and get it. That's only government stuff. That's only government stuff. That's, that's it.
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So if, if these programs, these legacy programs that, that, uh, that I've mentioned are, are with
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Lockheed or Northrop Grumman or, you know, pick, pick a, a corporation, a defense contractor,
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there is no file to go and, and do. So you would have to get a grand jury subpoena. There would have to
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be something else that would authorize the FBI or somebody else to jump into, uh, a corporate private
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situation and, and get to that. And you would also, I hate to say it, but there's gotta be a law broken,
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right? That's what the investigation is. So how do you prove that, that a law has been broken? That is
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one of the things, the strength of all of this, um, is it, it can't go to court. You know, it just
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can't, what laws have been broken. And then for somebody, whether, uh, you brought the case or you
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were defended on the case, if you're requesting the government to supply materials, how, how does that
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happen? Right. It's such a convenient situation that everybody finds themselves in. Uh, it's very,
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very frustrating, which goes right back to the way that we started this show talking about the white
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house and disclosure and the department of war has been instructed to do this, uh, document dump and
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data dump. I just don't know how that can happen. I don't, I don't see it. You know, do you take
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constellation and just move those files onto the aliens.gov website and just let it rip? Right.
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Is that how it's done? I, I, I just don't see it happening. I would love, could you imagine,
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Christina, just imagine for a second, the amount of shows that you and I could do where we have got
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just file after file, after file video, after video, after video, name, after name, after name,
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you know, to the tune of millions and millions of documents and videos and disclosure,
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how much we would have to discuss and go through. Think about that. I want that. I want that
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problem. I really do. Christina, we've got too much to go through, right? This is great. I'm only on page
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60, right? You know? So yes. And I don't, I don't want to poo poo on any of this. I know that we
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have certainly moved the needle and it just feels different this time around. It, it, it truly does.
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Do you remember, God, we've done so many shows now that we are actually able to say, do you remember?
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Well, back in the day, back in the day, do you remember, Christina, you and I were doing a show.
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This is, uh, this was a long time ago. Um, when I said to you at the white house press briefing today,
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they said UFO, you remember that, how big of a moment that was for me? Yeah. Yeah. To,
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in the white house, in the press briefing room, live on camera to have the press person say UFO into the
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microphone and to the world. That was a big moment. You know? So I know that things are different this
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time around. Uh, I would, I would just like it to be sped up just a little bit. No, a lot.
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Yeah. Let's start tomorrow. Just, just a little something, just a little taste, a little taste of
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something. Something big is coming up though. I'm going to change gears on you. Steven Spielberg.
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We are right around the corner. Are you excited? Oh yeah, of course. I like all those movies.
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They're all good, but, but the reason to why it's interesting,
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besides, besides the entertainment factor is, is, um, what he's stated publicly over the decades and
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what has been alleged that he has been briefed on. It's been mentioned that he doesn't create movies
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to entertain. He creates movies to inform. And this is, this is really important because,
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uh, Bryce Sable did a recent interview with Ross Coldart of news nation, and they told their story
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back from 1996 when they were doing their, their party about the, their new TV show, dark skies. Now
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in, during that party, one guy was uninvited and some guy like, like the men in black equivalent,
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he was part of the Naval intelligence and said, look, I can give you real information, real UFO
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related data that you can embed into your TV show if you like. Right. And I covered that yesterday.
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And I thought to myself, how many other TV shows and movies were given the exact same opportunity?
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The best place to hide the truth is when you label it as fiction. Whitley Strieber said that so
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beautifully once where he wished he made his book communion, a fiction book instead of a nonfiction,
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because it would have done better. And he wouldn't have gotten so much ridicule, even though it really
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did happen to him. And so when we look at these movies, no matter what you're watching, you'll always
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see this little things of like, Oh my gosh, how did they know this? How, how did the director or, or the
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script writer know about this information? Why is it in the movie? You will see that across multiple
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genres. And with Spielberg, it's, you know, he's definitely been a pioneer for the UFO topic for
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the alien topic. So we can keep an eye out as to what he's going to cover. And if it's actually going
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to inform the public or just merely entertain them. But what about you, Jimmy, are you looking forward
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to the new movie coming out? Well, I believe first off, he's just an amazing director, right? He doesn't,
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he, he, he, he doesn't, he doesn't put out stuff that isn't great. He has done more. We have ET and we
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have close encounters of the third kind, but if you really look at his body of work, he has done a ton
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of stuff on this subject and, and it goes back. So the question is this, and back to your point,
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how much disinformation is offered up into this community for people to report on? I can tell you
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right now, I have gotten tons of it. Okay. So Jimmy, here you go. Here's this, here's this, here's this.
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And I, I, I look at it just like somebody like Spielberg or anybody else would, you take a look
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at it and you go, I don't want to be a part of this. You have to bring me more than just words.
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You know, there's gotta be something else to tie this all together. I'm not going to be an instrument
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of disinformation and, and putting stuff out there, uh, just because, and so many of us, and this includes,
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uh, Mr. Spielberg, so many of us are, are here for deeply, deeply personal reasons and we're looking
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for answers. And sometimes these fantastical things and fantastical claims and stories, uh, will,
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will come at us and discernment just goes out the window. And that's, that's, that's a big,
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big, big, big problem. Just depend on your own research. Don't let somebody else supply you with
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something. And then you just turned around, uh, turn around and repeat it. And then it's just
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information and you are supporting somebody else's agenda. And you have to be very, very careful with
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that. It's, it's so hard, isn't it? To just remain in the middle and, and have a wait and see attitude
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to see how things play out, but that's the safest place to be because we are all on the fringe of
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like losing it. Right. Because these, these are the, the, the most, this is what ET is to me.
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And I'm not wrong here. The most crazy, fun, imaginative science fiction, crazy dream,
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thought, imagination thing that you can put together in your head about ET. It's crazier than that.
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Whatever it is, it doesn't matter. Throw it out as far as you want to let your head go.
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It's crazier than that. And that's what we have to be prepared for. We truly have to be prepared.
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We say we're ready. I know that you're ready. You say that you're ready. I know that I'm ready. I say
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that I'm ready. Are we really, I mean, are we really, are you really prepared? So there you go.
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Oh, I'm the heels of a Spielberg. Why would he call this disclosure day? Why would he call it that?
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We've all seen the trailers. I've seen, uh, the few different trailers that have come out.
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Very, very interesting take. Now, is he basing this on what he has learned or is this just his, uh,
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creative imagination, uh, being put to work? Um, is it that, and then we have something else on the
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heels of this, and that is three body problem. Three body problem is coming out with, uh, the next
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season and what is proposed there, not unlike, uh, Steven Spielberg, but Spielberg, how far do you want
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your imagination to go? Right? All right. So we have that and it's, it's so much fun. Three body
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problem has taken that imagination of what ET is and why they would contact us and how we contacted
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them and taking it to another level of imagination and creativity. And as nuts as all of that is,
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I think it's just preparing us for what is truly crazy. We have to be able to, uh, accept what we
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find out we're asking for it. It just may be the craziest thing ever. And I guess we won't know
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until it happens. It's a good crazy though. I hope it's a good crazy. Well, Jimmy, thank you so much
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for being on the show today. Before we head out, who do you have on fade to black tonight? Oh,
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tonight I've got Tyler Engel on the show base forge. He is amazing. And, uh, I, I just recently
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interviewed him for beyond belief and, uh, had a, a chance to hang out with him and go to dinner and
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do some stuff, but I've been a big fan of his and the way that he approaches not only ancient history
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and ancient technology and applying that through to today. He's a young engineer, right? That's, uh,
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uh, construction engineer, civil engineer. Um, and, uh, but also through to today and, and what
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disclosure is and what technology is very sharp kid, he's not a kid kid, but, uh, it's going to be
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younger than you. So he's a kid. Oh, you know, just like yourself, uh, when I see, uh, a young,
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fresh mind tackle these big, big non-trivial subjects, uh, from a fresh point of view and,
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and apply that it, it, it, it's just something that really gets my interest because look, I'm,
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I'm focused and I have my own way of looking at things. I try to listen to everybody and I want
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my mind changed. You know what they say, Christina and another great show. When you are wrong,
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you've just learned something that is, that is a powerful statement, isn't it? So I don't,
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I don't mind being wrong. I really don't. I don't. So I'll see everybody tonight on Fade to Black.
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Christina, uh, let's do this again next week. I hope so. If you're not busy. What do you say?
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What do you say? Let's do it. Thanks, Jimmy. If you enjoyed the show, hit that like button right
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