Transcript: US Navy UFO Crash Retrieval & Reverse Engineering Programs

Well, I had contacted Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who was the head of the National Security Agency

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in the United States, Deputy Directorate CIA, Director of Naval Intelligence, and a variety

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of intelligence posts, a technologist, and clearly someone that if this was really accurate,

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that there really were UFOs and non-human intelligence around, this is a man who had to know.

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So I was able to contact him thanks to a contact through Admiral Lord Hill, Norton, here in

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the UK, and this conversation he alarmingly not only indicated that these issues were

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covered under national secrecy laws, but that the United States government did in fact

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have possession of the hardware associated with this.

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In other words, this was an actual physical phenomenon as to craft a spaceship.

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Several of them, and they were in operational condition.

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sair

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agree

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Atlantic. What had happened, they had picked up a, there's a survey vehicle working

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the North Atlantic that had picked up some radioactive signal. It was almost a

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perfect symmetric piece of metal with marking around the edge and it was just a

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triangular shape but no glass, nothing that would appear to be a hatch or a

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cockpit of any kind. From Roswell in 1947 to Jake Barber in 2024, on this

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channel we have discussed extensively UFO crash retrieval operations performed

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by UFO legacy programs involving the United States Army and Air Force. Over the

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past decades these retrievals are alleged to have occurred over the continental

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United States, Mexico, Peru, Vietnam, the former Soviet Union China and numerous

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lands around the globe. In several US incidents rapid reaction response teams are

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detailed to fly in via helicopter, drive in via flatbed truck or utilize any

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vehicle system to retrieve non-human craft and transport them to clandestine

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above and below ground military installations. But what about retrieval

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operations that must be conducted in the oceans of our planet? What happens when

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UFOs crash into water or USOs unidentified submerged objects must be

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recovered? How are such operations conducted in the most mysterious corners of

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our planet were only roughly 26% of our oceans floors have been mapped? This

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would of course require the most powerful seafaring military on the planet,

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the United States Navy and its immeasurable special axis programs,

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internal intelligence offices, corporate programs and partnerships with

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shadowy US intelligence apparatuses. But does the Navy just retrieve UFO in USOs

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in our water? Or do they, like many retrieval instances we have covered on this

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channel involving the Army and Air Force, additionally engage in storage,

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exploitation and reverse engineering of technologies of unknown origin? For

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this reason, I want to dive in and explore the modus operandi, operational

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history and key players in US UFO Navy legacy programs. From the research we will

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explore in this project, I theorize naval UFO programs can be delegated to four

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major components of operation, monitor, collect, store and exploit. These

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operations are likely conducted out of the Office of Naval Research and Office of

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Naval Intelligence and conjunction with US Special Forces Command, SOCOM,

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shadowy intelligence organizations like the highly secretive National Underwater

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Reconnaissance Office and Navy Special Program and involve US naval stations

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like NAWC China Lake and NSWC Crane while engaging with defense

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contractors and FFRDCs such as Lockheed Martin for utilization of their now

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retired deep submergence rescue vehicles Mystic and Avalon. This investigation

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will explore in tremendous detail the three components of naval UFO programs I

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outlined above, UFO and USO collection, NHI craft storage and technologies of

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unknown origin, T-U-O, exploitation. One major cornerstone I theorize exists in

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naval UFO programs, monitor, will be largely emitted from today's exploration.

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While the topic of possible under-C UFO bases or installations is well worth

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investigating in the future, I have covered the topic of USO reports twice already

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on this channel. These include discussion of OPNAF 3820,

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a naval regulation restricting maritime UFO reporting. With that being said, let

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us look beyond the veil to analyze naval UFO legacy programs. Hey guys, it's

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UAP Gurb and I am thrilled for you to join me today as we take a direct

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investigation into UFO legacy programs under the United States Navy. We will

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direct our focus on three key pillars relevant to today's discussion,

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collection, storage and exploitation of non-human craft and technology. In this

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investigation, we will analyze the alleged structure of naval UFO programs, study

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key figures associated with said programs evaluate a handful of incredibly

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intriguing USO retrieval cases and identify naval installations alleged to hold

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non-human craft and biologics.

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I've been sitting on this information quite a while now and I felt quite nervous

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about it because the retrieval program undertaken by CIA and elements of the US Navy

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is probably one of the most tightly guarded secrets in the US government and

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those detecting it can be quite nasty and I was warned about that.

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On 20 September 2024, excellent UK-based journalist Christopher Sharp in the

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Liberation Times posted an article titled,

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Pairdheim changing UFO transparency legislation fails in Congress for

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second consecutive year. The piece discussed the unfortunate dismissal of the UAP

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Disclosure Act in the Fiscal Year 2025 National Defense Authorization Act.

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This exclusion of the UAP DA is another topic for another day as such bombshell

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legislation could very well have begun the unraveling of UAP legacy program

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The September 20 article pivots rapidly discussing multiple programs orchestrated by the CIA's

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Directorate of Science and Technology and its Directorate of Operations. Alongside

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Department of Defense and Department of Energy components that have for decades bypass

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democratic oversight to retrieve advanced technologies of unknown origin. If this CIA DS&T

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sounds familiar to you it is likely because this CIA component has been accused on myriad

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occasions by Chris Sharp and Dr. Eric Davis as directly participating in an

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obfuscating data around UFO retrievals. For example, Glenn Gaffney former CIA DS&T

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director has been labeled as the gatekeeper who ceased Lockheed Martin's attempts to divest

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UFO materials likely the 1953 Kingman Arizona crash to the OSAT program in 2008.

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Additionally, former CIA DS&T Deputy Director Doug Wolf aided in founding the CIA OGA or

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Office of Global Access in 2003. Wolf and the OGA have been accused by sharpened others as

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participating in retrievals outside of the United States with JSOC joint special operations command.

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Anyways, the 20 September Sharp article proceeds to detail some truly startling revelations.

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Quote multiple programs are understood to be orchestrated by the CIA's Directorate of Science

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and Technology and its Directorate of Operations including its maritime branch. Alongside components

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of the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office, US Navy, National Reconnaissance Office,

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Space Command, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and Joint Special Operations Command.

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According to Liberation Time sources, missions carried out by these programs include the

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retrieval of objects from beneath the oceans involving the CIA's Directorate of Operations,

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the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office, coordinated between the CIA and US Navy,

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United States Special Operations Command and submersibles from the Woods Hole Oceanographic

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Institute. Additionally, the retrieval of objects on foreign soil is conducted with the involvement

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of the CIA's Office of Global Access and Joint Special Operations Command.

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Sharp directly named military and intelligence organizations involved with ocean-based retrieval

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including two institutions almost never discussed. The NURRO National Underwater Reconnaissance Office and

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WHOI, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute. But before we break down these statements, I must

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detail the evolution of this article as it allows us to study in Chris Sharp's own words

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information detrimental to his safety. By 22 September 2024, the article was revised,

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redacting all information about the Navy, NURRO, Woods Hole, NGA, NURRO, JSOC, etc.

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The new bare bones edition still discussed the CIA DSNT, DOD, and DOE, but all true actionable

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data was stripped from the piece. Sharp was accused by some Twitter users as making quote-unquote

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stealth edits to remove information from the article, but he responded by stating, quote,

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this is sourced information. There is a real, extremely dangerous reason little information

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has been released about such programs. Content from the article was removed because of the

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threats posed to me, end quote. By 25 September 2024, five days after the original posting, Sharp

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would once again edit the article and say quote, okay, so someone has recklessly put me at extreme

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risk, so I've updated last week's article relating to the UAPDA, reverting back to details

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previously mentioned. This time, the details are far more specific, so here it is, the alleged

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undersea retrieval program end quote. This third edit is quite similar to the first piece,

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but expand on multiple departments and agencies named specialized assets and expertise to carry out

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undersea craft retrievals. In this latest iteration, Sharp states for operations, Woods Hole provided

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deep submergence vehicles to quote, support retrieval efforts end quote. Deep submerged rescue

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vehicles or DSRV will be a crucial aspect of a USO retrieval operation covered much later on in

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this project. The third iteration does powerfully claim the undersea craft or quote, transfer to

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the Office of Naval Research, which subsequently hands them over to defense contractors for detailed

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analysis end quote. From this article, we can extract a powerful thesis, the US Navy works in

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conjunction with the CIA DSNT alongside JSOC or SOCOM forces, intelligence agencies such as the

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NRO, NGA and shadowy Nuro, as well as defense RDT&E facilities and private contractors to retrieve

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and store non-human craft found deep undersea. But let's really break this down, analyzing the

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targeted role of the CIA's Office of Global Access alongside JSOC in global soil-based crash

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retrievals. We can assume a similar structure for undersea retrievals where the CIA DSNT

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serves as the logistics coordinator while JSOC provides men at arms, industrial security, human

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intelligence, etc. In this apparatus, the NRO and NGA would harness reconnaissance satellites to

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provide signals intelligence to retrieval teams while the shadowy national underwater reconnaissance

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office provides unknown methods of underwater reconnaissance. In such a system outlined by Sharp,

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retrieval operations would be done in tandem with the US Navy and contractors such as Lockheed Martin

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and their DSRV and Dry Simmercible, as well as non-profit research facilities such as Woods Hole

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Oceanographic Institute and their many deep submergence vehicles. Finally, in this hypothesized

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Naval UFO program, craft would be taken to various Office of Naval Research locations before

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being transferred to defense contractors to study. But in this program, I do think Sharp is missing

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a key step here. Many speak on joint USG contractor UFO legacy programs. But a cornerstone of my work

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has been discussing the missing intermediary, federally funded research and development centers,

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FFRDCs and university affiliated research centers, U-Arcs. I will not bore returning viewers of

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these details, but I often speak on how the semi-private government controlled RDT and E-Centers act

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as liaison between USG-slash-DOD and US defense contractors for UFO reverse engineering and material

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exploitation programs. Such institutions would serve as subject matter experts and provide necessary

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R&D work on project materials. This would in turn keep knowledge access in TUO programs quite strict,

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only allowing contractor personnel with a need to know full insights into the full extent of

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the non-human materials on which the program's focus. The Navy employees numerous U-Arcs and FFRDCs

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often entwined with unacknowledged special access programs, special access programs, and controlled

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access programs. Such U-Arcs include the applied physics laboratories at Johns Hopkins University

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and the University of Washington, as well as the applied research laboratories at the universities of

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Hawaii at Manoa, University of Texas at Austin, and Pennsylvania State University. Penn State's

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U-Arc was established in 1945 by Penn State President Dr. Eric A. Walker. Dr. Walker was named by

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physicist and consultant to the DOD research board Dr. Robert Sarbacher, as participating in

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1950's UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs alongside Dr. Vannevar Bush.

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Walker would be contacted by various UFO researchers in the 1980's and make some startling

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revelations. Not only admitting he himself was present at the 1965 Kexpert Pennsylvania UFO crash,

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but also claiming he knew of the Majestic 12 and to engage in UFO legacy programs one would need

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to know about ESP, extra-sensory perception. It is interesting how a former TRW board member and

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founder of Penn State's U-Arc would essentially confess he was part of a UFO legacy program.

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And by the way, as recently as 2013, the Office of Naval Research has displayed a keen interest in

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studying ESP. The O&R would even publish a quote, revolutionary program looking into six

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cents among humans to train personnel on intuitive decision-making, end quote. Additionally,

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according to the testimony of Randy Anderson, the Navy, specifically the Naval Service Warfare Center

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Crane and Contractor SAIC, has engaged in recovered technologies that respond to human consciousness

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at the Underground Off-World Technologies Division. The Navy also engages in a tremendous roster of

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programs with FFRDC's well worth our interest. Primarily the Center for Naval Analysis run by the

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CNA Corporation based out of Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia. Returning viewers will recall how a

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recently implicated Crystal City and a likely massive underground facility beneath the neighborhood

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and Pentagon as a major center for UFO legacy programs SAICs and USAPS. Many of the acronyms sharp

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listed in his work regarding undersea retrievals need much further analysis. And as we move forward

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in this investigation, it is paramount to recognize the Navy has indeed participated in at least one

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acknowledged USO retrieval operation. Recall the 1962 Bluegill Triple Prime detonation and

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subsequent UFO recovery discussed by late presidential adviser Harold Malmgren. This event took

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place during Operation Fishbowl, a series of high altitudes nuclear tests. The Bluegill Triple

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Prime nuclear test accidentally disabled a nearby UFO that went correening into the waters below.

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The downed craft or quote unquote pod was searched for and recovered by the USS Safeguard.

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Historical logs from the Safeguard discussed the vessel alongside others such as the USS

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engage steaming to the water crash location, searching in a square grid pattern and employing

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divers to recover a quote unquote pod. During net recovery of this pod, the Safeguard

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actually lost power and the pod was released for helicopter pickup. This is a massively

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consequential case I would like to explore in more detail later on, but let's continue with

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this investigation. I would be willing to wager most watching this channel have heard the

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National Reconnaissance Officer NRO. The NRO is considered alongside the CIA, NSA, DIA, and NGA

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to be one of the big five US intelligence agencies. This agency within the US DOD has historically

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designed, built, launched, and operated reconnaissance satellites providing signals intelligence to the

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NSA, imagery intelligence to the NGA, and measurement and signature intelligence to the DIA.

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David Grush worked for both the NRO and NGA where he additionally served as the intelligence

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agency's liaison to the UAP task force. Since 2023, the NRO has had a provable program that tracks UAP,

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Project Sentient, Uncovered Infoia Documents. Sentient serves as a quote ongoing research and

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development program end quote that analyzes satellite data with AI capabilities. The program was

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also tasked with analyzing UAP data such as a 6 May 2021 incident where a small TicTac object was

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detected. The Sentient report states this TicTac to be similar to other objects observed in

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redacted operating areas. In 2021, the NRO contributed to the ODNI's or Office of the Director

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of National Intelligence's Report to Congressional Intelligence and Armed Services Committee on Progress

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made by the UAP task force. This discussion of the NRO and UFOs are interesting,

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seen as they contradict a 2015 statement made by the NRO which stated that no documentation relating

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to UFOs and that the topic was quote outside of the scope of NRO responsibilities. Furthermore,

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the NRO has conducted numerous searches in the past and has located no records end quote.

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The NRO has of course additionally been implicated in providing assistance for UFO crash retrieval

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operations. These accusations have been made by Chris Sharp discussed above and witnesses I've

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covered on this channel numerous times including Stephen Greer witness AH as well as

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UCF Master Sergeant Edgar Fouchet who claimed the NRO alongside the NSA and CIA managed the TR3B

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reverse engineer triangular alien reproduction vehicle. A fascinating document allegedly released by

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the NRO surface to 1991. I have covered this document before in relation to Blackjack control

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and Blackjack team a possible joint reverse engineering group out of Edwards Air Force Base in the

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Nevada test and training range. This document is again worth our attention because of the countless

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groups of interest mentioned throughout. These include MagiOps, Red Flag M.O.C, C.Spray, SOG,

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and Aquatec SOG. Allegedly Stephen Greer gave this memo to Admiral Thomas Wilson from the Wilson

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Davis notes in a 1997 meeting. This meeting did occur this is not disputed however according to

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Greer Wilson recognized at least one of the Klandestine groups listed in this memorandum for record

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from the NRO. Though the NRO likely works with the CIA DSNT and Navy for USO retrievals they are

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not our focus for naval legacy programs. The NRO was born based on a recommendation to President

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Eisenhower during a National Security Council meeting. The agency was formed to coordinate the

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Air Forces and CIA's reconnaissance activities. Lessor known is an additional agency form to

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coordinate the CIA's and Navy's reconnaissance activities the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office.

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This agency NRO is known as the Hidden Younger Brother of the NRO. Implications about this agency

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in Naval, USO retrievals are scanned. Seen as NRO is a classified Black agency but we will do

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everything we can to investigate. NRO itself has been widely considered to be a special access

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program according to publications made by the Association of Former Intelligence Officers quote,

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Most Saps involve technology projects. At the Department of Defense there are relatively few

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Saps involving sensitive human intelligence collection or exploitation methods. Examples of ongoing

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non-technology Saps include interrogation protocols for high-level battlefield detainees in

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Afghanistan managed by the Defense Counterintelligence and Human Center of the DIA and every single

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capability of all special mission units of the Joint Special Operations Command. One entire

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government agency the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office is protected by a SAP. End quote.

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From this statement we can learn NRO is an extremely rare example of an entire intelligence agency

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being protected via a special access program but do not be mistaken NRO is a very real program

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and we can find snippets of its very existence here and there including a drastic revelation we

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will touch on soon. This includes mention of NRO in a 1975 submission of documents to the Senate

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Select Committee on Intelligence. Included in a long list of National Security Council Intelligence

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Directives is a National Security Decision Memorandum 40 which details both NRO and NRO operations.

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According to the historical dictionary of international intelligence by Nigel West,

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NRO began during the Cold War as a joint Navy CIA group to coordinate and fund special projects

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conducted by submarines. In his book the US Intelligence Committee Jeffrey T. Richardson was able to

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learn even more about NRO quote. In 1969 as a result of an agreement between the CIA and US Navy

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an underwater counterpart to the NRO the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office NRO was established

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with Secretary of the Navy John Warner as its first director. The office served as a means of

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managing the conduct of submarine intelligence missions and exploitation of their product.

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Those missions involved the recovery of sunk-in submarines the Soviet K-129 taping of the underwater

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Soviet communication cables the Ivy Bells aka the Deklensen program. Ocean Floor mapping under

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a program named desktop an imagery and sicken collection from submarines a program at one time

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designated the special Navy control program. Author Jeffrey T. Richardson was even denied FOIA

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requests on NRO. From what we can learn the agency has deployed several highly specialized ships

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and submarines including the USS Parche the Hughes-Glomer Explorer the USS Halibut the NR-1

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and more recent the USS Jimmy Carter. Of particular note is the United States first nuclear-powered

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submarine launched 1969 the same year as NRO's founding and retired in 2008 the NR-1. This sub

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carried out numerous highly classified missions including search, object recovery, geological survey,

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oceanographic research and installation and maintenance of underwater equipment. One publicly

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acknowledged NRO-1 mission occurred in 1976 with the recovery of an F-14 lost from an aircraft

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carrier. NRO seemingly performed operations to swarm a stranded Soviet submarine in 1981 in

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Swedish waters. In response to statements made by former Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger

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stating NRO's submarine operations in Swedish waters were routine defense tests a senior U.S.

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official said quote, I don't know why Weinberger said what he did. covert submarine operations is

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the most secret thing we have. The decisions were taken by a subcommittee of DIA and CIA people

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most likely the national underwater reconnaissance office but I will neither confirm nor deny any

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operation in Swedish waters end quote. An additional high ranking CIA officer confirmed with the

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International Peace Research Institute Oslo that US covert submarine retrieval operations were

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run in Scandinavian waters by NRO whilst directed by Secretary of the Navy John Lehman from 1981 to

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1987. Analyzing the inception of NRO and the retrieval of the K-129 Soviet submarine as detailed

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by Jeffrey Richardson we may gain some keen insights into the organization and their alleged UFO

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retrieval missions. In Blind Man's Bluff the untold story of American submarine espionage NRO was

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established under CIA director Richard Helms to address the sinking of the Soviet submarine K-129

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outside of Hawaii in 1968. Though the office was intended to act between the CIA's director of

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science and technology and office of naval intelligence quote from the day NRO was formed the CIA

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took charge and quote, NRO has seemingly seen a tug of war of control through the CIA and Navy

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but by 1972 the Navy regained some control of NRO seen Secretary of the Navy John Warner

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serve as its director. However through NRO the Navy and CIA DSNT's usage of the Glomar

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Explorer may be worth analyzing more. To address K-129 the CIA built the ship the Glomar Explorer

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mentioned above which launched in 1972 to recover the sub under Project Jennifer aka Project Azorian.

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Astoundingly the ship carried a modern day price tag of $1.68 billion. I would like to thank

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medium author underscored for this great piece titled General Motors Glomar Explorer Lockheed Martin

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and UAP Connections his article will be in the video description. The piece explores the Glomar

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Explorer being involved in hidden programs beyond the scope of K-129 Soviet submarine recovery

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in 1974 and was additionally used for nearly two decades by Lockheed Martin. Since the ship was a

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NRO creation we can reasonably assume these clandestine operations and Lockheed Martin's usage

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were conducted under NRO. The article discussed how in 1978 Ocean Minerals Company whose prime

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contractor was Lockheed Missiles and Space Company now Lockheed Martin. Least the Glomar Explorer

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for quote unquote deep sea mining operation. The question must be asked did Lockheed, NRO and the

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Glomar additionally partake in these under C UFO retrievals. After all later in this project we will

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address a synolyte in 1970's UFO crash retrieval case in which the Glomar Explorer allegedly retrieved

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a downed non-human craft. We will also discuss an incredible 1991 USO recovery in this project

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and touch on how I believe NRO provided transportation and logistics assets to the Navy's project

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Sand Dollar. A clandestine highly compartmentalized project that was tasked to retrieve military

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sensitive hardware and other items with national security importance from the seafloor of the

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continental shelf in deepest marine environments. Sand Dollar seemingly gained actionable leverage when

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in 1964 achieved scientist of the special project's office of the US Navy Dr. John Pania Craven

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launched the Deepse Emergent Systems project which saw the Navy drastically improve deep sea

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engineering and exploitation capabilities but much more on this later.

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The most astonishing discussion of NRO actually comes from a man mentioned dozens of times on

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this channel who self admittedly served as its director. Thank you. I became the director of

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Naval Intelligence 13 September 1974. Brand new flag selectee that year. I also had a second hat

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and they still don't want me to talk about it even now of director of the national underwater

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reconnaissance office. Seeing it highly classified that's the organization that procured

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all of the sensitive reconnaissance systems to take light intelligence under the surface of the

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oceans. Bobby Ray Inman allows us an extremely rare opportunity to understand Naval UFO slash

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USO Legacy programs as well as the likely involvement of NRO. Inman served as a highly decorated

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four star admiral in the US Navy from 1951 to 1982 while also serving as the NSA and CIA director

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and director of SAIC and Wackenhut. Of course if you are unfamiliar with these two companies,

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SAIC is a premier contractor I have discussed and will discuss later in this video as being heavily

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involved with UFO Legacy programs. SAIC was likely the contractor described by former US Army

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Green Beret Randy Anderson as running the off-world technologies division below the Naval

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Surface Warfare Center crane. Wackenhut was a contracted security company I have covered before

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that has often times been implicated as providing industrial security forces who have guarded UFO-related

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SAIC locations. And of course Inman's dual roles within US intelligence and the Navy also suits

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an organization like NRO perfectly. Anyways Inman states in the above clip he took a hold of the

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highly secretive NRO in 1974. Inman had only spoken publicly about NRO once before in a

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October 2021 interview with David Zerler the director of the Caltech Heritage Project.

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At this time Inman served on Caltech's Board of Trustees to which he had been appointed in 1989

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on the behalf of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory NASA in Congress. While discussing JPL's future as

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a productive national asset working alongside NASA, Inman was reminded of his Navy and NSA days

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during his tenure in the National Underwater Reconnaissance Program. According to Inman, NRO served as

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a black program due to its constant need to pursue evolving cutting edge technological capabilities

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to out smart adversaries. Later on in the interview Inman touched on his role as director of

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Naval Intelligence and director of NRO whose very existence was still classified. In Inman's own

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words he was harassed for even mentioning the office quote, in recent years when I talked about it

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I got a pretty hot letter telling me I was not permitted to talk in detail since they were all

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still classified end quote. According to Inman, NRO was an essence of black program that quote,

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acquired the technology for undersea reconnaissance ranging from conducting imagery of the ocean

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floors looking for anything which might be desirable from an intelligence point of view. Before my time

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it had been engaged in the efforts to pick up a submarine off the ocean floor with the Glomar

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Explorer. By the time I took over it was primarily designed to track the hardware to be used in

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modern collection activities. The actual missions were conducted by the services by the US Navy,

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by the submarine force, by the national security agency. I had already been exposed to the Glomar

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Explorer program when I was in Hawaii as the assistant chief of staff for intelligence end quote.

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So from Inman, the US Intelligence Committee and Blindman's bluff, we can learn the director of

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NRO dealt with technology acquisition and was also a high ranking naval official ranging from

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Secretary of the Navy to director of naval intelligence. Also recall how Inman states he was exposed

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to NRO's Glomar Explorer in Hawaii. In 1974 the K129 Soviet wreckage was picked up 1560 miles

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northwest of Hawaii however. Once again later in this project I will bring up an alleged UFO

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recovery in 1973 conducted by the Glomar in Hawaii could Inman possibly have been involved in this

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retrieval in an official capacity. But why exactly are these words from Admiral and former NRO

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director Bobby Ray Inman so important? I have spoken on this topic quite a few times but as this

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directly involves US Navy UFO legacy programs let's dive back in. In 2022 on the project Unity show

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Inman claimed he had found quote unquote plausible explanations for all UAP sightings.

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In my years active service I became intrigued by the whole issue of UFOs and as I dug into it

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I found there were plausible explanations for virtually everything that we have observed.

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Until recently with the openness of Admiral Timothy Gallaudet naval officials quite often denied

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the existence of UFO. This dates all the way back to 1951 where the office of naval research physicist

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Erner LaDelle stated in a public magazine article that all UAP reports were mirages or balloons

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he stated trained observers were being fooled. These 2022 statements by Inman contradict

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much of this man's storied history. I started out extremely skeptical about this whole thing.

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I thought this was just rubbish from the tabloids but I was surprised to find thousands of US

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government documents from intelligence agencies that tended to indicate that there was a little bit

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more to this than met the eye. So I went to seek guidance from the various highest levels of the

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United States intelligence community and I was quite alarmed at what I was able to learn.

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We are in this report that we're now going to show. We're going to hear a conversation featuring you.

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Tell me the context of that conversation. Well I had contacted Admiral Bobby Ray Inman who was the

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head of the National Security Agency in the United States Deputy Directorate CIA Director of

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Naval Intelligence and a variety of intelligence posts a very technologist and clearly someone

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that if this was really accurate that there really were UFOs and non-human intelligence around

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this is a man who had to know. So I was able to contact him thanks to a contact through Admiral

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Lord Hill-Norton here in the UK and this conversation he alarmingly not only indicated that these

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issues were covered under national secrecy laws but that the United States government did in fact

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have possession of the hardware associated with this. In other words this was an actual physical

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phenomenon as a craft a spaceship several of them and they were an operational condition which I

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assume suggested that they had been in contact that they had been given these craft for some reason

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or another because they certainly weren't crashed vehicles. In a 1989 telephone call Admiral Bobby Ray

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Inman would tell NASA mission specialist Bob Eschler Deputy Director of the CIA DSNT Everett

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Heinman would be the best person to ask if recovered vehicles would be available for technological

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research outside of military circles to quote Inman in this call quote

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The Deputy Director for Science and Technology at CIA is named Everett Heinman he is in fact

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getting ready to retire in the very near future that may make him somewhat more willing to have

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dialogues than he otherwise would have had when I knew him in that period seven to ten years ago

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he was a person of very substantial integrity and just good common sense so as a place to start

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he would clearly be high on the list and quote and we actually have recorded snippets of this phone

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call between Eschler and Inman. Do you anticipate that any of the recovered vehicles would ever

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become available for technical technical research outside of the military surgeons? Ten years ago

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would have been out whether it's time to evolve they're beginning to come more open on it

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is a possibility. Eschler would go on to receive this call from Admiral Inman. Mr. Eschler this is

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Tom King an Admiral Inman's office yet you would be breaching confidence in indoor violation

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the relationship with the laws and discussing his involvement and any matter.

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Interesting how Inman a former neuro director would refer Eschler to a CIA DSNT director

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for recovered anomalous vehicles. CIA DSNT was of course one half of the founding agencies behind

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Neuro to note while Heinmann served as CIA DSNT deputy director from 1979 to 1982 he would go on to

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direct program B in the National Reconnaissance Program from 1982 to 1989 possibly this is where a

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Neuro director and NRO program director first encountered UFO legacy programs together.

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Heinmann and Eschler arranged to meet at the CIA's headquarters in Langley, Virginia 10 August 1989.

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In this meeting Heinmann would deny any knowledge of UFO or UFO legacy programs however in 2022

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Twitter user RGH underscore UFOs would contact Heinmann regarding comments made by Inman that

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Heinmann was knowledgeable on US UFO programs. In this instance Heinmann did not deny but instead

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said quote I am a long way and quite a few years from working in the area you are researching

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end quote Heinmann would offer to answer any questions relating to UFOs but never responded to

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RGH and as of this time I have additionally attempted to contact Heinmann to no response.

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RGH's inquiries into UFO programs revolved around Heinmann's time in the NRO's program B

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as we just mentioned above program B served as the CIA's initiative to build and operate satellites

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for SIGINT purposes. Heinmann was the first chief of the facility for the ground element of the

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program in Pine Gap Australia. It is fascinating to think Heinmann could have been working on UFO

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legacy programs in the 1980s out of the illustrious and infamous Pine Gap for a joint CIA and NRO program.

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More pertinent to our investigation today, Inman would additionally connect Eschler with another

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former director of Naval Intelligence Sumner Shapiro. It is unknown if like Inman Shapiro served on

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the NRO. In 1989 Eschler met Shapiro under the pretense he was interested in working with the

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group that managed UFO information and at this time Shapiro was retired as director of Naval

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Intelligence and served as an executive with BDM International. BDM is of course a former defense

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contractor purchased by Northrop Grumman I directly accused of being involved with UFO

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legacy programs. Shapiro told Eschler factions within the US possess extra terrestrial vehicles

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that he, Shapiro had even studied at close quarters. According to the former DNI,

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teams would take the craft apart, pack them up and ship them around the country to different

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laboratories. These craft featured unique interlocking components that had to be disassembled in an

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exact sequence to be put back together. However, Shapiro was incredibly careful with what information

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he divulged to Eschler never specifying where vehicles and technology were taken to protect

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information. Eschler would meet Shapiro for a second time in the Admiral's Virginia

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home in 1990. This visit was far less actionable and concluded abruptly. According to Bob Eschler,

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as relate by author Timothy Good, quote,

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To put this into perspective, it was evident that Shapiro had not consulted with Inman regarding

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the specifics of my research prior to our meeting. In order to draw a link between the technology

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and its non-human source as one might ordinarily pass a business card, I displayed a small

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hologram of laser artwork depicting the head of an alien creature. Shapiro became visibly upset,

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pacing about his living room and expressing concerns about his failure to reach Inman for

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confirmation of the recommended meeting. And he wondered aloud why Inman had not directed

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me to the current director of Naval Intelligence. He decided to terminate the meeting at that point,

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suspecting that I was there under false pretenses, end quote. But before we move on from discussing

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Eschler and insights he gained from senior Naval officials, Eschler would also claim Navy

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EMP experiments were utilized out of Pensacola Naval Air Station to down UFOs for retrievals.

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These involved Empress and Empress II on board EMP generators. Inman and Shapiro are not the

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only Naval officials who have spoken on UFO legacy programs. In 2021, now deceased former Navy

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director of science and technology development, Nat Cobitz, told Ross Coltart he was during his

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service, read into a Navy UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, although Cobitz

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didn't actively engage with T. U.O. or technologies of unknown origin. He was read into an active

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program that had retrieved multiple U.A.P. He called me on an open line out of the blue

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that I could barely believe who he was. His name was Nat Cobitz. He was the US Navy's former

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longtime director of science and technology development. Their chief R&D scientist, their chief geek

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for many years, for over 30 years. And sadly, when I caught up with him, he was dying from cancer.

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And fate dictated that I caught him at the perfect time. And over several months,

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he finally opened up to me about what he was on his own admission, read into.

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He was briefed on the program. And he told me that he had been read into a classified program

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involving retrieved non-human technology recovered alien spacecraft. He eventually admitted that

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he was officially briefed that America had retrieved multiple non-human craft and that he was aware

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there was a secret operation underway for decades in his words to undertake to reverse engineer them.

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He admitted that most of what he knew was effectively hearsay, although from some excellent

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official sources. This is something he'd been briefed into in his official capacity.

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He did admit that on one occasion he was flown to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,

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literally taken deep underground, taken to a secure room and shown what looked like some kind of

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bulkhead from a craft which he believed was constructed in a way that defied conventional

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explanation. The craft's skin and inner bulkhead were composites bonded at an atomic level.

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He suspected it was non-human intelligence technology, but being the scientist he was infuriating

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it. He wouldn't say to me it was alien tech. He would just say it was something he had never seen

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that any human could make. That was a patriot. He was a decent, honorable public servant. He respected

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the fact that this program was being kept secret for a reason, but as a scientist he also recognized

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that the American public and especially Congress had the right to know what was being done with

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taxpayer dollars. And he frankly told me that as far as he knew there was no good justification

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for keeping its secret.

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Remember all the way back to Chris Sharp's mysterious reporting on USO legacy programs involving

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the CIA DSNT, Navy, Neuro, Socom and others. To quote Chris in the third iteration of the article,

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quote, it is further understood that the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution has provided deep

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submergence vehicles to support these retrieval efforts. And quote, Woods Hole or WHOI, as I will

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call them here, is quote, dedicated to advancing knowledge of the ocean and its connection with the

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earth systems through a sustained commitment to excellence in science, engineering and education,

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and to the application of this knowledge to problems facing society. End quote, the non-profit

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research and higher education facility is dedicated to the study of marine science and engineering.

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During the Cold War 1985 to be exact, the US Navy deployed a classified mission to investigate

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the wreckage of the USS Thresher and USS Scorpion, which had sunk in the North Atlantic Ocean

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at depths of between 10,000 and 15,000 feet. Sounds like a neuroinvestigation no? While this mission

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led to the discovery of the wreck of the Titanic, the operational team and vessel that discovered

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the RMS Titanic was from Woods Hole. WHOI employs a host of highly advanced underwater vehicles that

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include human occupied submersibles, remote controlled vehicles, autonomous and towed robots.

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These include the AUV Century Autonomous Exploration Vehicle capable of exploring depths of nearly

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20,000 feet or 6,000 meters. The HOV Alvin, a three-person research submersible and the HOV

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Deepsea Challenger used by filmmaker James Cameron. WHOI works closely with US military specifically

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the Navy, where it develops technology including ocean battle space sensors, unmanned undersea vehicles,

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and acoustic navigation and comm systems. As a matter of fact, going back decades Woods Hole was

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involved with the Atomic Energy Commission, the precursor to the Department of Energy that highly

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likely housed UFO legacy programs while also serving as the gatekeepers for UFO data and materials

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classifying such as trans-classified foreign nuclear material. From 1948 to 1949, a gentleman named

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William Webster served on the Military Liaison Committee for the Atomic Energy Commission. Webster

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was not only a member of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Corporation but was also a

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trustee of the Rand Corporation and Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute. WHOI even manages the

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Navy Oceanographic Research Laboratory for the Department of the Navy. This WHOI lab is now part

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of the Naval Research Laboratory NRL. However, the National Oceanographic Research Laboratory was

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formed by a Federal Contract Research Center or FCRC, the precursor to FFRDC which I talk about

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quite often. Present day, Woods Hole also manages projects for the Office of Naval Research,

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such as Project Sundance. In fact, since 2002 Woods Hole has been awarded over $3.4 billion

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in federal awards in the form of contracts, subcontracts, and grants. Analyzing such contracts,

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we can find some data of extreme interest, such as National Defense R&D Services with the Naval

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Surface Warfare Center, whose crane division I have directly accused runs an underground installation

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with science applications international corporation, housing the Off-World Technologies Division.

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Historically, WHOI has been awarded these contracts by NSWC via SoulSource Contracts. A contract

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method Dr. Eric Davis has spoken of that are used in UFO Legacy programs to maintain compartmentalization

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in secrecy. Woods Hole is given such SoulSource indefinite delivery contracts because,

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quote, the government believes that the supplier has unique capabilities that cannot be otherwise

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obtained. And speaking of SAIC, Woods Hole has also been granted R&D contracts with SAIC and NSWC

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Crane Weapon Systems Division, JXN. But it doesn't stop there. Woods Hole has been given

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numerous indefinite delivery and definite quantity NSWC contracts to build, fabricate,

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integrate, evaluate and support unmanned undersea vehicles specifically for the Naval

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undersea warfare center installations. And now we finally get to the most interesting part of

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this video, a deep-sea USO recovery experience that ties together much of what we have discussed

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on today's episode. This story first appeared on Art Bell's Coast to Coast call in episode on

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19 April 2002, and I plan on using clips of the audio here, however, if people would be interested

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in fully released audio where I work with a 3D artist to recreate the encounter, please let me know.

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On this live radio call and show, Art Bell was contacted by a retired Marine Corps lieutenant

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Colonel. The caller, first name Mark, had been assigned to 22 Area Camp Pendleton to work with the

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first air delivery unit before being stationed at Okinawa, Japan at the Fatima USMC Air Station.

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It was here he began doing rescue diving work on weekends alongside a Navy crew.

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Mark would form a friendship with a lieutenant in the Navy who would go on to become a commander

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of a DSRV or Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle Unit. The friendship I made later came back that

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I was assigned or requested to join this DSRV unit and did and was reassigned to Virginia.

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And basically what we did was a deep-sea rescue and recovery. If we had a down-air craft,

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we would go and try to rig the craft to get it back. Anything, any anomalies that we wanted to look at,

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basically we were sent to several teams that did the same thing we did.

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How deep did you go?

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We could go two miles, excess miles, you were pretty much pushing it. This particular incident I wanted to tell you about without...

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You're saying you could go over 10,000 feet?

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Yes.

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Wow. All right, anyway, go ahead.

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Well, the particular incident we were involved in, we were just under a mile and a half of water north of landing.

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The specific mention of DSRV is critical to this entire investigation. The United States created

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two deep-semergence rescue vehicles that operated within the US Navy from 1970 to 2008.

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Mystic DSRV-1 and Avalon DSRV-2 were products of the Lockheed Missile and Space Company in Sunnyvale,

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California. DSRVs are to this day some of the most technologically advanced submersibles in the

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entire world. These two vehicles were capable of deploying anywhere in the world, transported within a

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truck, C5 Galaxy, or Naval vessel to piggyback, efficient routes to rescue crews of stranded

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submarines within 72 hours. These highly advanced submersibles employed a guidance system more

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complex than Apollo 11s, allowing the DSRVs to hover in place in strong ocean currents to mate

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with disabled submarines. The Navy conducted numerous exercises with DSRVs-1 and-2, but no

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official rescues were ever conducted. And this is due to no American subs syncing since 1971

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and 1972 saw the introduction of DSRVs-1 and-2. It is interesting to note, DSRV was born from 1964's

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Deep Semergence Systems Project, DSSP, to increase and develop the Navy's deep ocean engineering

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capabilities. The project was initially founded out of the Navy Special Program Office and DSRV's

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launch date of 70 slash 71 dovetails closely with the beginning of Nuro in 1969.

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Interesting how the DSSP was also founded partly out of the loss of the USS Thresher,

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the same sub Woods Hole was attempting to find when it discovered the Titanic.

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If this story is true, this means DSRV, Mystic, and Avalon's practice missions were really to

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retrieve underwater aircraft in vehicles. And this is most likely fact, as Dr. John Pania Craven,

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Chief Scientist of the Special Programs Office of the Navy and first head of the DSSP,

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wrote regarding DSRV and classified operations, quote,

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There were many highly classified missions associated with national security that cannot be

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accomplished without a DSRV system. The specific operational needs of these missions cannot be

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anticipated, but they were certain to occur. Thus, a DSRV designed, constructed, and deployed for

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every conceivable rescue mission would also be available for the intelligence, quote, unquote,

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mission impossible that were sure to occur. Craven's words here are particularly interesting.

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In 1964, Craven was tasked with spearheading the Deep Submergent Systems Project, which led to

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the creation of the DSRV and other deep clandestine subs like the NR1 to respond to unprecedented

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events at dramatically extended operational depths. In 1965, Craven was given a high level

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intelligence briefing by a Naval Intelligence Officer and was informed on the existence of an

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extremely sensitive program named Sand Dollar. From Craven's book The Silent War, the Cold War

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Battle Beneath the Sea, we get a rare chance to learn more about this program. Sand Dollar was

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tasked to retrieve militarily sensitive hardware and other items with national security

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importance from the seafloor of the continental shelf in deep marine environment. According to

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The Silent War, Sand Dollar was buried within the structure of yet another secret program,

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it's self-hidden within the Polaris subprogram. This hierarchy and compartmentalization of

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programs is something we've observed extensively in the Wilson Davis notes and throughout our

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investigation today. Craven even wrote the program is still classified to this day that being

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2002, quote, I was shown an inventory itemizing the items to be known on the sea bed and a map

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of their distribution throughout the world, end quote. To expand on this statement, quote,

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the salvageable items of interest were spread around the globe. There were plenty of interesting

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objects on ocean floors worldwide, not just in the Bermuda Triangle, and there was an equal

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distribution of these objects between those that were lying on the continental shelf and those

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in deep oceans. There was a skew in favor of the continental shelf because of the shallow water,

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rocks, and shoals, but much of that hardware had either been salvaged or scattered by storms,

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end quote. Craven would even discuss two vessels previously mentioned to have been used in

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operational capacity by the Neuro, the Halibut and Sea Wolf. Craven claimed there was no

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need for maximum security for these submarines because they themselves, quote, they only transported

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top secret equipment and teams of industry specialists who would carry out unknown missions

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in unknown parts of the sea. The performers and the performances were invisible, end quote.

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As we explore this undersea recovery with DSRV units, we can now study the case with a strong

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thesis in mind. Chief scientist John Craven was tasked by the US Navy to drastically increase

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naval deep sea diving and engineering capabilities to retrieve undersea objects discovered by an

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astoundly compartmented program called Sand Dollar. Craven's 1964 deep submergent systems project

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would lead to the creation of clandestine submersibles that were capable of retrieving,

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quote, unquote, items of interest from the sea floor. Some of these submersibles such as the DSRV

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units would be shuttled via motherships including Neuro's Halibut and Sea Wolf.

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So now the question must be asked was Sand Dollar the Navy's first UFO legacy program designated

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with the discovery, monitoring, and retrieval of UFOs. After all, Craven would state, quote,

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could I organize and manage a program to carry out this mission using the assets of the DSSP?

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Furthermore, could I carry it out in such a manner that my family and friends and closest

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professional colleagues would have no idea that I was involved in such a project?

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End quote. From the DSSP, the Navy plan to build six DSRV units and additional DSRVs known as

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deep submergent search vehicles DSSVs that were never officially built outside of mystic and avalan.

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These DSSV DSRVs were intended for sea floor exploration and recovery and to be capable of

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clandestine operations with an operational depth of 20,000 feet. So while we dive into Mark's story,

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I do think it is possible he and his Navy unit were assigned to a DSSV not the two acknowledged

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mystic and avalan DSRVs if this is the case no such vessel in which Mark was operating was ever

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publicly acknowledged to have been built. But back to the story, our story takes place in the early

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summer of 1991 at a depth of roughly 1.5 miles in the North Atlantic 250 nautical miles or roughly

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288 standard miles outside of Aberdeen, Scotland. Looking at 250 nautical mile radius outside

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of Aberdeen compared with the Atlantic Ocean depths, we can draw a reasonable estimate of where

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this retrieval incident would have taken place. Let us also account for some error in Mark's

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estimate and give a generous plus or minus 20% room for error in radius here. Therefore,

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our radius could be up to 50 nautical miles larger so we have a standard radius of 345 standard

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miles. And folks using the superior metric system here, I am sorry guys. Waters in the Atlantic near

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the UK are actually quite shallow however, 345 miles almost due west of Aberdeen sees depth reaching

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over 8,000 feet which is over our mile and a half claim. This area of ocean is known as the

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Rock Altroff, east of the Rock Alt Plateau. Hopefully further data can come from this very specific

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location at which this retrieval is alleged to have occurred. Mark's DSRV crew had been sent from

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Virginia and as we know from a 2011 nuclear regulatory commission emails detailing the tsunamis in

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Japan. Both the east and west coast of the United States had employed a quote very operational

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ready deep submergence rescue vehicle. On the DSRV, Mark served to operate computer equipment on

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the optical and electronic recognition side and also worked on mechanical aspects of the vessel

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with mechanical arms and rigging for object retrieval. Mark's team was dispatched after a survey

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vessel in the North Atlantic had picked up a radioactive signature on the sea floor. A second

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vessel equipped with a side scan determined a vessel to be resting on the sea floor. Naval authorities

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thought this to be a crashed foreign nuclear submarine. However, the radar signature had shown the

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object to be smaller than any known nuclear sub. Upon diving, Mark's DSRV attempted to contact the

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vessel and immediately realized this was not a sub but shaped more like an aircraft.

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Many communication. The vessel came back. It was much too small. The enemy said that they were

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familiar with and at that time we came onside. But you were getting some kind of nuclear signature from it?

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Right. There's radiation from it. The concern was was it a weapon, some type of concealed weapon

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source or was it actually a power source? Right. We were brought out from Virginia's theme down

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and not to give you specific minutes, seconds, location, just approximately 150 miles out of

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Aberdeen, Scotland is where we were. You can draw a circle and narrow it down pretty quick.

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At that depth you can limit the waters. Yes, sir. Upon diving, we went down, like I say, just under

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a mile and a half. We contacted the vessel which we immediately recognized not as a submarine,

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but more of an aircraft. Communications, back to the top, we were told to go observe photograph,

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determine what we had. We thought at that point we had possibly a Russian or Korean aircraft with

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some type of contained weapon source. We went in. That would be logical. We went in and this

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particular vessel was partially in the mud. Some urge our buried under some mud had been there

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for some period of time. And how much were you seeing of it? What shape? What we saw was the,

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I would say the rear two-thirds. It was a triangular shape. It was waged more triangular.

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In best way I could describe it, it would be known with about two-thirds exposed to the bike.

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Yes, sir. And as you come out the triangular shape at the back, it was rounded as it came to the

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corner, what would be the corner of the triangle they rounded on both sides of the flat across.

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Oh, really? The obviously not a conventional aircraft.

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Well, one one comment was made in the DSRV. The little bit of the commander's also a bit friend

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was my comment was, I don't believe it's Russian. And his comment was, if it is,

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if not Russia right now, joking. And what the best way to describe it, it was a charcoal gray

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in color. It had some markings on the side. Sir, listen, I'm coming to a break at the top of the

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hour. Can you manage to hold on? I can if you'd like. Yes. I would like, yes. Day right there,

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all right. You located this craft, which was a triangular in shape and you were seeing the back

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portion of it. Right, at this point we'd come over almost what you, I would best describe as broadside

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to the the craft. The nose, what I would determine is the nose and was submerged in mud.

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Mark and his crew had no matching craft or pattern to cross reference this craft. The 60 to 70

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foot charcoal gray triangle with smooth edges, no windows, rivets, seams, or bolts,

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rounded rear and hieroglyphic riding along the side did not lead the crew to suspect terrestrial

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origins. Mark and his lieutenant colonel friend both thought the craft to be extra terrestrial but

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did not relay this to the surface out of fear of psychovaluations and to not risk communication

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the surface LPH vessel ordered the DSRV unit to return with still photography and video of the craft.

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We do need to quickly address the markings on the side of the craft that Mark relayed.

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And there were markings on the side of it which were in the in the skin itself.

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And how would you describe those markings? You know, and I've heard this before, people try to say

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hieroglyphics and all of this, it was not any language or marking which we would typically see

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Russian Arabic, nothing we were trying to explain previously. But hieroglyphics?

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And I'm not right. Well, I'll say hieroglyphic like but more geometric patterns. There weren't

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large walking individuals with bird heads and you know, I think hieroglyphics, I think of

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individuals with a head like a burger wolf and then human body. Just didn't have

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have those type of patterns. It was more geometric shapes but that you could tell some of the

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actual characters repeated. Quite a bit of it was in mud and then there'll be gaps

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around them. But you could see some repeating of the character.

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I have covered in great detail the high confidence 1965 Kexpert Pennsylvania crash retrieval

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in which numerous town residents observed US military forces retrieve and transport a 12 foot

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acorn like bronze craft. Many such witnesses described hieroglyphic style writing around the

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circumference of the lower lip of the craft and additionally Danny Sheahan has stated in the

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classified project blue book files. He has seen images of a crashed UFO saucer that displayed

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geometric hieroglyphic style characters along its circumference. This is a fascinating detail

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and connection to these other cases. After 12 hours of waiting after returning to the surface,

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the DSRV crew was ordered to dive again this time taking a marine archaeologist. The archaeologist

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made sketches of the craft and even traveled down with his own personal computer.

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Where did this go from there? I mean now you've got this thing I did. Would you suddenly

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out of the picture or well we're in the picture up up to the point where we're rigging and

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recovering. As I said we took down a marine archaeologist and one thing that was very interesting

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that this individual we actually monitored currents did some things temperatures and such at the

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at the site. He was making quite a bit of notes and you know really not not making a lot of

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comment but he did make the comment when we asked you know is this recent because there was no

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disturbed area around it best way described it looked like he'd been in place and he said that

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it wasn't any more recent than at least 30 to 40 years which really threw us back because

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this thing looked like something beyond you know where we're at development wise aircraft.

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And I feel hadn't ruled out that it was not experimental aircraft at this point someone.

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But the point that he made that the buildup of the silk mud in the front end would appear that

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this has followed been in place for a period of 30 years or somewhere in the range 30 to 40 years.

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And you have what was there an attempt made at recovery? There was a recovery made not in a

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attempt made there was a recovery made as a craft. What do you know about that?

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On the third day of the operation the DSRV crew dove for a fourth time this time to retrieve

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the craft the team first used thrusters to remove silk and mud from the craft's midsection.

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So mark and others could attach equipment to try and lift the vehicle.

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Immediate problems arose as this crashed us oh did not fall under the same procedures and weight

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estimations used for conventional aircraft. Due to this the DSRV crew had to make size and

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base weight estimations. The craft's weight estimations was based on the closest size conventional

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aircraft the F-14. We had thrusted away a lot of the silk mud from the from the vehicle.

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Still had a section probably about eight foot that was trapped or under a depth it was more

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than angle to it. So when we rigged it to bring it up rear first use the best language I can.

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We were going to try to lift the rear end up and bring this thing up on an angle and try to keep

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everything intact and go. We're rigging that with our calculation for the rigging the weights

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brought it up and it went probably about two and a half to three times the ascent as what we

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anticipated which immediately gave us a feel that we're dealing with something to train the life.

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Trailing the craft as it ascended the DSRV crew noticed the underside of the craft was completely

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smooth no piping exhaust or mechanical features existed on the underbelly of the triangle. When the

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vehicle was recovered Mark got a clear look at the craft it proved to be six to eight feet longer

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than an F-14 at 62 feet meaning this craft was 68 to 70 feet long. Mark stated nothing like that

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existed in 1991 and as of the show in 2002 still nothing like that existed the craft was a solid

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metal form with no cockpit and no windows. It was a little bit actually a little bit longer

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longer than aircraft will be probably eight six to eight feet I would say in excess of

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what you would anticipate for F-14. Colonel, a straight out question is do you believe that you

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recovered an alien craft? I've never had conversation with the individual my friend that actually was

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there we're still in contact quite often. I can't definitively say that it was I can only say that

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it it was an object that didn't belong there and certainly would not have blown there 30 or 40

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years prior to one way we're on site and no visible means to you know if you anticipate it was an

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aircraft and I saw a cockpit I would say it was definitely somebody here that was in development but

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that technology would not allow you to fly to craft 30 or 40 years ago. Within four hours Mark and his

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entire crew were steamed off site. Mark received no feedback or debriefing on what the vehicle was

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nor did he and his crew receive any threats or warnings not to speak about the incident. However,

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Mark did state when he joined the DSRV team he was ordered to sign some pretty lengthy NDAs.

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As we know from Dr. Craven and DSRV for clandestine usage this does not come as a shock Mark would

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be subject to such intense secrecy regarding his work on the DSRV. Mark stated even if the DSRV

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retrieved a US vehicle they were not allowed to discuss. Art Bell got the original sketches of

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the retrieval by the Naval Lieutenant Colonel and Mark told Bell he would connect him with the Naval

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Officer. I am still trying to chase down this case with the help of some high profile naval

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officials. More investigation does need to be done on this case since officially DSRV's mystic

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and avalan had an operational depth of just over one mile and it would be unusual to employ USMC

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divers for the time. For this reason I do think back to the 1964 proposal of six DSRV and DSSV

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under the Deep Simmergent Systems project where only DSRV's one and two were built.

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Remember back to the words of Dr. John P. Craven chief scientist of the Navy Special

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Projects Office who discussed many classified operations were performed by DSRV teams.

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I do think it possible DSRV units outside of mystic and avalan were built with capabilities akin

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to the DSSV units. 20,000 foot operational depth capacity with a greater capability for C-floor

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navigation and object retrieval and it is interesting of course to point out the 1964 Deep Simmergent

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Systems project DSSP which aimed to increase and develop the Navy's deep ocean engineering

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capabilities for project sand dollar which resulted in the creation of DSRV occurred just two

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years after the October 1962 Bluegill triple prime US Navy UFO recovery. Additionally this case

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peaked my interest due to the presence of a crash triangle so often in my videos I discuss many

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triangular sightings being alien reproduction vehicles. Whether this be the TR3B XF-131

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Super Sentinel or a long list of prototypes I have wager to be built in the late 70s into the early

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2000s I believe the US saw heavy clandestine experimentation within usaps to build triangular

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shaped alien reproduction vehicles. But this triangular case harkens my attention back to the alleged

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special operations one majestic 12th manual. In this piece the Psalm 101 allegedly written in 1952

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details are given to extraterrestrial craft types including triangles which according to the

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document were very new and very rare at the time. The DSRV retrieved the triangle allegedly in 1991

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the marine archaeologist claimed the triangle had been buried for 30 to 40 years meaning the crash

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likely occurred between 1951 and 1961. Interesting how this date range coincides with the majestic 12

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special operations manual claiming new triangular extraterrestrial vehicles were being spotted at the

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time of the 1954 manual. If these retrieval events are true and the inside sources of

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Chris Sharper are correct water-based USO and UFO recoveries are stationed at naval

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installations and locations of the Office of Naval Research where they are then utilized in

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material exploitation programs. Let us review some cases and testimony throughout history of

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down-craft stored at naval installations. We will reference numerous sources here including

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the legendary Leonard Stringfield whose work I referenced often in my dumb video. Stringfield's

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crash retrieval status reports one through seven are in my opinion the best crash retrieval work done

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by any investigator. I will also omit stories of China Lake and the testimony of Randy Anderson

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and the off-world technologies division as I have covered these stories and installations and

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experiences in depth in the past. Leonard Stringfield was once contacted by letter in 1978

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tipping him off to Derward Buddy Hack a CPO radar observer who in 1952 while stationed at the

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Naval Air Station Sunnyvale California disappeared out of sight while serving at the Naval installation

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hack according to his family accidentally entered a large door of a hanger that was temporarily

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unguarded. There he encountered a massive saucer-shaped craft with rows of windows and when

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the guards returned they forced hack out and threatened him. Stringfield contacted multiple

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members of Hacks family who confirmed hearing the story including his mother who not only

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confirmed Hacks disappearance but also the saucer story. Hacks mother would hear him say quote

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it was certainly no aircraft of hours. In 1979 six February 1979 to be exact Stringfield

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received a letter from one Joan Jeffers. Jeffers stated she knew a retired U staff

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Colonel who enlisted in the 40s and retired in the 70s. While stationed at an Air Force radar

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facility the Colonel would attend weekly commanders calls at the Naval Air Station in New Brunswick

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Maine. At one such meeting in 1956 the Colonel was shown a film by Major Lester Goldberg that was

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apparently shot by the U staff. Interesting side note here one major Lester Goldberg did in fact

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serve at the Brunswick Naval Air Station at this time and was the commanding officer of the

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654 aircraft control and warning squadron. The film showed a circular metal silver colored disc

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on the ground. The interior of the craft was well lit and featured smooth walls. The film also

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showed at least three bodies lying on tables. The beans were short and they all looked similar in

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appearance featuring a sheen or gray color. None of the beans had any external ears or hair all

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appeared to be dead. Further sources of Stringfield like the anonymous Lieutenant Colonel X would

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even state the Navy housed by logics such as in 1975 when Lieutenant Colonel X claimed quote

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bodies are now being flown outside of the US to a secret naval installation on an island in the

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Pacific Ocean. Now the US Navy does employ multiple DOD laboratories and MRTFBs or major

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range and test facility bases in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. These include the Atlantic

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undersea Test and Evaluation Center on the Androcyland Bahamas and Pacific Missile Range Facility in

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Hawaii. There is also incredible research I plan to explore in the future conducted by Dr.

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Richard Saudder that's similar to deep underground military bases the US Navy employs deep underwater

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military bases. And those familiar with my discussion of MRTFB will recall such installations as

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Dugway Proving Ground, Edwards 412 Test Wing, NAWC China Lake, Fort Hachuka, the Nevada Test

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and Training Range, and more. Lieutenant Colonel X also brought forward an interesting connection to

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the Majestic 12 Special Operations Manual which claims deceased biologics were taken to the right

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Patterson Blue Room while living entities were taken to the OPNAC BBS-01. Some have guessed OPNAC

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is similar to OPNAC which is the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations while BBS is the

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Bermuda Biological Station and Atlantic based installation now called BIOS. In Crash Retrieval

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Status Reports 3 case 15b, Stringfield relayed a cat and mouse game with witness AF and his brother Pete.

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This story took place at the Naval Air Base Yuma Arizona now called the Marine Corps Air Station Yuma

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which is directly near Yuma Proving Ground. If you remember back to my video on Dums, the US Army

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Corps of Engineers took a tremendous interest in building underground installations beneath Yuma

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County Arizona. This case in question really frustrated Stringfield quote, what seemed to be a

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case of great potential including the emergence of photographs of a saucer in military custody

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became less so with the passing of time. Following a series of alleged interferences my sources said

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they feared even greater consequences and backed off into oblivion. Stringfield reckoned this case

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to either be a ploy or example of the lengths legacy operations will go to silence and formance.

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Witness Pete, a former US Marine, claimed to have photographed a saucer-like craft at the Naval

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installation in Yuma Arizona in 1967. Stringfield tried for months to meet Pete and his brother AF

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and organized to receive the photos by mail. AF even claimed to have sent numerous letters to

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Stringfield that were likely intercepted. Stringfield would speak to the men on the phone and

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learn Pete had been approached by some sort of agency to stay quiet. An intriguing case to mention

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but a massive dead end for both Leonard Stringfield and us. Our most fruitful case in Stringfield

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status reports can be found in UFO crash retrieval status reports 3 under case A7. This case takes us

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to the Great Lakes Naval Base in Northern Illinois in 1973. While we discuss this case do keep in mind

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the Office of Naval Research has a major Chicago Department less than 40 miles away from the Great Lakes

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Naval Station. Our encounter comes from one witness R.K. an E4 grade instructor in gunnery school

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at the Great Lakes Naval Base from March 1973 to September 1974 destined for intelligence school.

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I myself am aware of R.K.'s true name and am trying to vet this individual. On 14 July 1980,

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R.K. came to the House of Stringfield and relayed his encounter in September 1973 while instructor

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in gunnery school. R.K. was assigned to guard the premises of a large quan set hut at Great Lakes

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Naval Base with orders not to let anybody within 100 yards. While on duty R.K. was approached by

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a naval officer who handed him a sealed envelope to deliver to the commander in the quan set hut.

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Entering the facility R.K. observed a strange metallic craft 30 feet in length and 10 feet in

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height resting on a wooden platform. According to R.K. quote, it was light silvery blue and shimmering.

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It tapered like a teardrop with a flange running along its topside from one end to the other and

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there were no windows and quote, R.K. could not linger in the hut due to the presence of other guards.

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Thus he delivered the envelope and returned to his post. R.K.'s encounter bore striking resemblance

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to the testimony of a sailor he had met in San Diego just weeks prior whilst on special assignment.

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According to this sailor, a UFO identical to the one R.K. would observe in the coming weeks at the

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Great Lakes Naval Station was shot down by the Navy between Hawaii and the mainland in June of 1973.

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This UFO was picked up via destroyer's radar and came into view making three close passes and

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one direct overflight over the destroyer. According to the sailor, the UFO was shot with a

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lucky hit and crashed into a 350 foot deep water. The San Diego sailor claimed the object was retrieved

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by the Glomar Explorer and shipped to Hawaii and sent stateside and finally to Chicago.

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The sailor even provided R.K. a sketch that was identical to what he had seen.

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But just hold on a second here, the claims of the Glomar Explorer retrieving the craft are

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of significant consequence here. Glomar was run by Nuro, a joint naval and CIA DSNT effort.

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If this story is true, this means the Navy, CIA, and intelligence organizations such as Nuro

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downed a UFO and retrieved it from sea. The craft was then shipped to an O&R location where due to

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being guarded on a wooden platform was likely destined for further transport and study. This incident

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mirrors perfectly the 2024 claims of Chris Sharps' informants.

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Other cases of naval bases and the Office of Naval Research possessing both

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information of crashed discs and the materials themselves are plenty. In 1994, former New Mexico state

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rep, J. Andrew Kisner, stated sources within White Sands Proving Ground in the Naval Research Lab

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briefed him on recovered flying discs in 1947. These discs were given to the custody of the

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Atomic Energy Commission and studied by national laboratories such as Los Alamos, Sandia,

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Rand, Miter, etc. This is very similar to my modern day hypothesis of DOE working alongside

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FFRDC and U-Wark to exploit UFO materials. According to Kisner's naval sources, the UFO

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programs were signed into Presidential Executive Order under Truman in 1948 with the National

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Security Council serving as Program Coordinator. With support from the Air Force Systems Command,

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the Research and Development Board ran by Dr. Vannevar Bush and the Naval Research Lab.

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Interesting to note as well, in 2005, UCF veteran Stephen Walker would claim while serving at the

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Naval Support Facility in Diego Garcia, he was exposed to the Navy conducting sensitive operations

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outside of a large hangar at the northern end of the airfield. Base personnel were ordered to

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stay away from this quote-unquote empty hangar. One night while the flight line was evacuated,

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the base was locked down and personnel were ordered to stay inside away from windows for the

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arrival of a classified aircraft. Walker claimed that despite listening for the craft for nearly

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half an hour, he heard no jet engine, no brakes, no tires hitting the pavement, no idling, or no

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air force sounds. This experience is very interesting when analyzing the claims of master sergeant Edgar

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Fouchet, who claimed UFO programs were moved out of Area 51 in the early 90s because of intensive

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scrutiny from the public on Grume Lake. UFOs, especially the TR3B reverse engineer triangle

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programs, were relocated to various installations including Dugway Proving Ground and Diego Garcia.

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I must now circle back to early discussion of Nuro and reference back to US Intelligence Committee

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and discussion of Imagent and Sigant Collection from Summarines. A program at one time designated the

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Special Navy Control Program. Special Navy Control Program is quite similar to something called the

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Navy Special Program, or NSP. The NSP is a highly elusive naval office that's similar to Nuro we

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can only find snippets of. The first ever mention I can find of the Navy Special Program is in a 1974

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omnibus National Security Council Intelligence Directive alongside the NRO. Remember the NRO was not

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declassified until 1992, so this mention of the National Reconnaissance Program, which is the

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direct funding mechanism for the NRO, is likely to obfuscate the program. But what exactly is this

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Navy Special Program mentioned alongside the National Reconnaissance Program, especially in the

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context of this NSCID, not wanting to bring undue attention to both of these programs.

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Now since Nuro was created between the Navy and CIAD S&T, you may think Navy Special Program refers

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to Nuro. However, the Navy Special Program is itself a very real office. Indeed, the Navy Special

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Program Office serves as an umbrella control system for several naval clandestined undersea operations.

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However, in this context and due to the extreme secrecy of Nuro to this day as highlighted by Inman,

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Nuro could have certainly been rolled under the NSP. To further this thesis, we can look back to an

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11 December 1975 declassified memo for the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence and others.

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Here we get a keen look at the organizational structure of the Navy Special Program.

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The Navy Special Program was once designated to run parallel to the National Reconnaissance

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Program or NRO under the Executive Committee for the Director of Central Intelligence in the

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Assistant Secretary for Defense for Intelligence. Someone really ought to ask Christopher Melon about

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the Navy Special Program seen as he himself served as former ASD slash I. The NSP, according to

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this memorandum, serves to act for intelligence collection, similar to the NRO, DIA, or CIA.

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Having previously detailed the duties of Nuro, I do think this description means Nuro is likely hidden

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within the NSP here, especially given the time frame 1975, where throughout our investigation,

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we see Nuro's activities really ramping up from its creation in 1969 throughout the 70s.

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Therefore, with the Navy Special Program acting as an umbrella office for numerous Navy

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clandestine operations, including possibly housing Nuro. It is no stretch to theorize a program

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that conducts undersea retrievals of anomalous craft alongside Nuro that sends such vehicles to

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the Office of Naval Research locations. To then be studied by federal elements and defense

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contractors would be hidden within the NSP. These operations would be compartmented and rolled

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under the Navy Special Program Office. This process for Naval UFO legacy programs would likely remain

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today. After all, as of 26 May 2023, we can find requests for approval for Special Access Program

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Facilities by the Navy Special Program Central Office. Naval legacy programs hidden within the NSP

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for extensive classification and compartmentalization carry sound logic, especially when factoring

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in statements of former rear admiral Tim Gallaudet. Admiral Gallaudet has spoken on congressional

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record that while Stia's aware of testimony of naval UFO legacy programs, he did not directly

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encounter them or was not briefed during his prestigious position within the Navy. We can find one

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intriguing acknowledged CIA program that likely utilized the Navy Special Program, Project

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Paladium and its director Samuel Jean Potte. Potte served at the NRO CIA DSNT as well as

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served as the technical director of the Navy Special Program Office, where he provided naval

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reconnaissance systems expertise for the CIA Directorate of Science and Technology. Potte was a

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senior central intelligence agency scientific intelligence officer, inventor, teacher, and association

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executive. He, quote, provided scientific expertise on space and naval reconnaissance systems in

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the Directorate of Science and Technology and served at the National Reconnaissance Office as

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technical director of the Navy Special Program Office. And as the executive director of the intelligence

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research and development council, end quote. Under the CIA, Potte spearheaded Project Paladium in the

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1960s with heavy use of naval assets, ships, and submarines. The project employed a variety of

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clandestine submarines, radar reflectors, and jamming tactics to trick, engage Soviet radar

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capabilities. Essentially, Paladium performed to fill Soviet radar systems with fake UAP signatures.

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Of course, our true interest here lies with Paladium's usage of clandestine subs and

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potte's connection to the Navy Special Program Office. According to excellent researcher Jeff Crookshank,

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references to Project Paladium can be found in the Majestic 12 documents. The Terce Memo dated 28 June

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1961 is a Majestic document Ryan and Robert Wood have rated with a moderate to high authenticity.

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This memo allegedly sees JFK right to the director of Central Intelligence,

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Alan Dolas, in a national security memorandum with the subject, quote,

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review of MJ-12 intelligence operations as they relate to Cold War psychological warfare

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plans. It is intriguing to see Alan Dolas did indeed meet with JFK twice, 28 June 1961.

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Crookshank argues the psychological warfare plans referenced in the Terce Memo directly

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referenced Operation Paladium. Although Paladium didn't get its iconic name until April 1962,

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when Dr. Albert Wheelan took over as head of CIA DSNT, the description of Paladium would appear

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again in further Majestic documents. And this is supported in the Medium Confidence Operation Review,

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the MJ-12 project, allegedly written by Alan Dolas on 5 November 1961. This document describes how

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the CIA was mapping the Soviet air defense system by using airborne electronic countermeasure

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equipment and balloon decoys. Such a purpose was to provide a true picture of how Soviet air

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defenses perceived UFOs. The memo discussed future similar psychological warfare plans very

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similar to the Terce Memo. Details of project Paladium appearing in early MJ-12 documents dropped

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to Jamie Shandry in 1984 proved significant, seen as according to an article by Gene Patete in

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Stories of Intelligence Research, only six people knew about Paladium in the 1960s. Since Paladium

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was not declassified until long after 1984, this implies whoever wrote the Select Majestic

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documents was well aware or a part of Project Paladium. As a matter of fact, the first time

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Paladium would be discussed was within a classified manner in a 1998 CIA journal written about by

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the aforementioned Gene Patete. Historically, the Navy special program saw heavy compartmentalization

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and incredibly strict need to know access. In this 29 October 1974 CIA memo titled,

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Cleans is held by NSIC or National Security Council Intelligence Committee Working Group members.

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Discussion was held around National Security Council Working Group programs,

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overlapping certain compartmented areas of the Navy special program. For read-on access,

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clearance requests were required for a redacted name and National Security Council member and CIA

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officer Richard Ober. This NSC memo was sent just a few days after the NRO memo from 1974

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we discussed earlier. We can additionally analyze a fascinating 14 December 1984 memo written to U.S.

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Navy rear admiral and director of Naval Intelligence John Butts. The memo thanks John for his personal

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sacrifices in arranging meetings in spite of a tooth injury. The writer, from within the staff of

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the director of the intelligence community, additionally informed Butts they had received a letter

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from the Secretary of the Navy John Layman concerning the Navy special program. Remembered,

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Layman additionally served as director of NRO. This letter apparently took a month to get to

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the desk of the director of central intelligence. The writer additionally suggested John Butts

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include a representative from Everett Heinmann's department on the redacted special ad hoc requirements

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committee. Remember, Heinmann was labeled by Inman as the CIA DS and team member knowledgeable on

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UFO legacy operations. The work here on the Navy special program is just the beginning for me and

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the ties to other subjects we have covered today is extremely interesting. After all, I have found

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an attempted to contact numerous former Navy special program personnel. These include a man who

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served for three years as a diver in the Navy special program with the mobile diving and salvage unit

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one. I have also contacted one Mr. P. R who served for eight years as project lead for Navy special

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program office and so calm acquisition program office. How interesting this ties into the work of

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Chris Sharp regarding USO retrievals the Navy and so calm especially intriguing scene as sharp

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implicated Lockheed Martin Dry submersible as participating in USO retrieval and since 2023,

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so calm has declared operational capability with Lockheed Martin Dry submersible and finally I have

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contacted one Mr. W. H who served for two years as an office of Naval intelligence chief information

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security officer for the Navy special program and please understand I am protecting the identity

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of these individuals as they very well may wish to speak on the NSP.

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Believe it or not today we have only scratched the surface of Naval UFO legacy programs.

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In the beginning of this project I separated Naval legacy programs into four distinct categories

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monitor collect store and exploit of course monitor has been emitted from today's discussion

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as has majorly exploit has the Navy successfully created C-faring ARV a deep C equivalent to the

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flux liner this of course will be another topic for another day today we've investigated the

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Navy special program office an office of Naval research conducting under C UFO and USO crash

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retrievals alongside so calm private entity such as Lockheed Martin and Woods Hole an intelligence

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organization such as the NRO NRO and CIA DSNT we have also discussed myriad senior naval officials

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such as Sumner Shapiro Bobby Ray Inman and Nat Cobitz who have all commented on the existence of

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crash retrieval and material exploitation programs we have barely begun to dive in and discuss the

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FFRDC's Naval U-Arcs and DOD RDT&E facilities that are highly likely involved with Naval UFO

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legacy programs outside of mention of Lockheed Woods Hole and SAIC we have barely even discussed

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contractors in UFO legacy operations outside of sole source contracts we have yet to really even

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dive into how legacy operations within the Navy are funded I have spoken before on witness Ed who

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claimed the existence of a joint UFO reverse engineering program between Edwards Air Force Base

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and the Nevada Test and Training Range after his service at Edwards Ed would proceed to work at

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the Pentagon for the Air Force's RDT&E panel chain where he would claim in two separate years 34

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and 40 billion dollars disappeared to non authorized transfer of authority funds Ed would

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additionally work as liaison between the Pentagon and various defense contractors as an F-35 program

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subject matter expert as a test director for an electronics warfare group dealing with reverse

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engineered UFOs out of the Edwards 412 test group I have theorized Ed's work on the F-35

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also dealt with anomalous technologies this is no stretch as the F-35 program has historically

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carried an incredibly bloated budget of two trillion dollars such bloated budgets with backdoor

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clandestine UFO programs may have also occurred in the Navy and we may get a keen look at such an

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instance in 1985 the US Navy faced a massive controversy for an incredibly bizarre occurrence

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scandal arose when in 85 it was discovered the US Navy had paid crumman aerospace

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corporation $660 a piece for ash trays to be included in the E2C Hawkeye the Navy only began to

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investigate how many of these ash trays had been bought and why they cost so much when an investigator

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for the House Government Operations Committee discovered this egregious oversight from this

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investigation it had also been determined the Navy was paying crumman $400 per socket wrench that

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were used to adjust the seats of F-14s and the Navy had also increased payments for ground locks

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from $102 in 1982 to $2,710 a year later shockingly this investigation would also reveal years prior

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the Navy had been charging itself $954 for ash trays for such infractions defense secretary

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Casper Weinberger who made some contested statements about Nuro above removed three officers prior to

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any investigation and Grumman aircraft wind that piece prices were so high due to needing to make

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a small number of parts to spec the damage had been done leading to House Committee investigators

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looking into larger naval contracts and discovered for example profits on aircraft carrier

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contracts were in excess of $753 million or 29.7% and contractor profits on a single trident

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735 submarine were in excess of $96 million or 22% where was all this excess money on contracts

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and parts going I wager since we are discussing contractors such as Grumman which I have directly

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implicated in UFO legacy programs before it's merger with Northrop these funds were siphoned off

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legitimate contracts or parts to fund clandestine deep six to UFO crash retrieval and material

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exploitation programs so after all of this today has mostly served as an expose into naval legacy

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crash retrieval operations and necessary logistics more and more in my videos I plan to speak on

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naval and special us oh legacy programs this is due to multiple sources of mine informing me navy

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us oh programs are more secretive than even standard UFO legacy operations

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hey guys it's Gerb and thank you so very much for sticking through with me while we took this

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dive into the us navy and UFO and us oh legacy program operations now as I said at the very end of

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this video from multiple individuals that have worked in legacy programs to our tangentially

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aware of them have informed me that the us navies programs are the most secretive there are

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why is this is it because the navy deals with weapons technology as in the randy Anderson case

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with the gauntlet and the orb that supposedly experienced energetic discharge during recovery

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or is it because the navy specifically the on and r is a pristine stop for craft or is it because

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the trans medium capabilities of UFO are the most coveted aspect of material exploitation and

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monitoring or is it possibly because some of the secrecy stems from the possibility there are

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under c-u-f-o bases and inherently if this is where some craft are stationed and departing from

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this implies much secrecy and that sort of makes a little sense as we've seen with neuro

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underwater reconnaissance underwater reconnaissance systems clandestine submarines are some of the

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united states most highly regarded secrets we have five major intelligence agencies the CIA,

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DIA, NSA what am I missing NRO and NGA but NRO is not on there and we've seen and proven today

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that NRO does exist so why is NRO not listed? NRO is really what kicked off my investigation into

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this subject back in september with the work of chris sharp when he detailed and changed the

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article about under c retrievals in the onr j-soc so com locking martin woods hole and NRO this

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really kicked off my interest one of the most intriguing aspects of this project of course was

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bobby ray in men a regular of this channel admitting that he was director of NRO and i'm really

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glad we got to explore a little bit more into in men and his interactions with ashler and bobby

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and sorry excuse me ever it or our evan hindman as well as some nurse Shapiro again as i stated

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i've received no contact back from hindman and i've also tried to contact Shapiro's family

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they have not gotten back to me either i would like to get statements from some other people surrounding

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this case but NRO really kicked off this operation and as we've seen with NRO as a black program

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agency all of its operations have been shrouded in secrecy whether this entails usage of the glow

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mar explorer the halibut the nr run nr one the sea wolf there is so much secrecy surrounding NRO

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and that bridge is really perfectly into the 1991 retrieval case under witness mark now as i

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said in the video too i'm still vetting this case i'm working with some individuals to try to

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identify mark to try to identify the naval lieutenant commander and trying to track down those

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original sketches i know art bell has passed away and he was the point of contact for both of these

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but i am trying to track that down so mark story involves a dsrv or as i hypothesized from

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craven in the work under the dssp a dssv deep submergence search vehicle i think those depth

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capabilities and mechanical arms and rigging for retrieval of craft suit a dssv more than a dsrv

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because dsrv was specifically created for transfer of crew from a submarine where a dssv was specifically

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tailored never built to retrieve vehicles and to retrieve items did this fall under project sand

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as we saw with project sand dollar under craven as well sand dollar involved items of interest

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on the sea floor of particular interest were radioactive or nuclear emitting items as we see in

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mark's case the original side scan from vessels and other vessels that picked up the signature of

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the craft this was emitting some sort of radiation to the point where the dsrv crew initially

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thought this to be a downed korean or russian aircraft with some sort of nuclear technology and it

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is interesting to see as mark said he steamed out of virginia that the 2011 Fukushima documents

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detail that dsrv units were ready and able in the east and west coast of the united states

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so let's talk about that incident a bit more because it's very rare we can ever find an under

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sea retrieval the only other example i can think of is shag harbour which occurred in 1967 and i

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would like to tackle that case in the future especially because there is testimony of the us navy

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kind of coming in the us navy divers and coming in and really taking over the retrieval operation

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but marks dsrv crew observes a triangle and as i said in the video and as we talk about in this

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channel quite often i oftentimes attribute human origin to trying their craft whether this be the

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tr3b the xf131 super settler which i almost put more credence in than the tr3b or other prototypes that

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we discussed throughout the 80s and 90s in the tr3b video but this craft featured hyroglyphic

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like writing alongside its outer edge which similar to kexberg and dainey she hands account is

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not rare but not common in ufo crash retrieval incidents the description of this craft is

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very similar to other n hi craft no landing gear no mechanical systems no cockpit no glass no windows

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etc what interests me is the the aftermath of the retrieval mark states that after the marine

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archaeologist and four dives were able to observe the craft and they were able to get it off the

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ground and retrieve it that after a couple hours mark and his crew were steamed off site and were

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never warned not to speak about this incident warned not to talk about it or signed further

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and ds now mark inherently had to sign and ds and not disclosure agreements for his work on dsrv

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which as we know from john pain your craven were sent almost exclusively on clandestine operations

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so it stands to reason there's a heavy amount of secrecy when you sign on for this crew

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but it almost appears as if the steamer of the lph vessel that discovered the craft in the dsrv

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was still trying to figure out what the heck they had uncovered because it took a couple hours

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from marking his crew to be steamed off site and they were never briefed on the incident debrief

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to discuss it further i do hope mark is still alive and i would like to speak to him i very much would

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and then what is interesting with nuro as well as the connection to the 1973 great lakes

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naval station case of course stringfield published on this back in the 80s so the glomar explorer

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and its work with nuro wasn't very well known if at all at this time the glomar explorer had been

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known for project azorean retrieving one third of the soviet k129th submarine but just the

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connection of witness jk stating that the sandy agosaylor that he met that saw basically the same

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craft he saw had told him that it had been shot down between hawaii and the mainland by a destroyer

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and retrieved by the glomar explorer and this was night early 1973 and then there's fascinating

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connections that bobby ray inman stated that in the early 70s 72 to 74 to be exact he became aware

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of the glomar's activities out in hawaii so there's a lot of really connective tissue here with these

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statements and i know i say this in most videos but our work with the navy is really just beginning

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here there are so many more facilities we need to look at so much more investigation into china lake

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because the navy and if chris sharp reporting is correct the oh and r specifically is almost a

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staging point for housing craft now this makes me wonder is this does the air force if they retrieve

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a craft or the army if they retrieve a craft do they initially stage at naval locations to then be

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transported again does the navy just satisfy naval uf o legacy programs for storage of craft or do

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they also operate alongside army and air force this would surprise me as everything i have been

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told investigated and seen is that army air force navy almost act siloed very different programs

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sometimes doing the same thing but almost no communication to adhere to the compartmentalization

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of these programs for only the intelligence community overlords really know what's going on

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between programs so that would be really interesting to track down but anyways guys if anybody

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watching this video has any experiences or connections with individuals who have retrieved

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undersea craft or no of stories of undersea craft retrieval please contact me and i would love

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to speak to you but let me know what you guys think in the comments this was a wonderful project

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for me to pursue and i really hope everybody enjoyed it let me know what you think if you have any

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thoughts comments things to add please remember to like and subscribe i have a patreon i don't

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will catch everybody on the next episode thank you so much and see you later

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