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It's one thing to squint at a fuzzy video on YouTube and then decides
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space aliens do or do not exist.
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And it's another thing entirely.
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To subject those sightings to the same kind of scientific rigor that puts, say,
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Scott Roder is that kind of skeptic.
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He is an evidence expert and crime scene reconstructionist with 33 years of
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experience and 1500 cases to his credit.
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He is the founder of the evidence room, a group that assembles specialists in forensic
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animation, 3D modeling and motion graphics.
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He took a close look at the video that was recorded by that family in Las Vegas and he
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applied his technology to try to debunk it.
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Here he is on his YouTube channel, Crime Scene, discussing what he calls the entity in the
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We can take a video and look at whether or not there is an artificial artifact added
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And in this case, we can definitively say to a degree of scientific certainty that this
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entity, this thing in the video, is there in the physical reality in which the Kenmore
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family is also there.
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Like this is so critical because you can clearly see through the slots and the fence
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that there is a leg motion moving from the right to the left side of the screen.
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And clearly it is behind there.
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So this isn't just like a head floating in space.
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This is a head that is somehow that does not have full opacity, that the opacity of the
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head of the shadow is only at about 33% opacity versus a normal shadow which would be at
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100% opacity or an object in the screen which is at 100%.
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And this isn't anything that you did.
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It's just what you were able to determine that this shadow being or this being in the
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shadows, possibly creating its own shadow or smokey filter or cloaking technique is not
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only cloaking itself from the people there, but cloaking itself from the camera itself in
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that it's minimizing our ability to identify pixels inside of that shadow.
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I'm joined now by UFO expert Ben Hanson.
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He's a former federal agent and now the host of UFO witness on Discovery Plus.
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Ben, it's great to have you on the program tonight again.
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So I mean your reaction to what Scott Roder did with his analytics, the shadow that you
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saw that was behind the fence as well as way above the fence.
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I guess your reaction to all of that.
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Well, thanks Ashley.
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Yeah, I'm excited because it took a while I think for anyone to get a cop of the Rob
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I don't personally have it when I'm glad that Scott has done this.
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I don't detect anything overt as a red flag that I would say that made me suspect that
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So I concur with him on that and it also appears that there is some sort of shadow that's present
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behind the sides of the fence, which he pointed out.
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And then you have kind of a head that looks like at the top of the fence.
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I where I kind of feel it might be a jump as people online then started to say, well,
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now this is evidence of a cloaking creature of some sort.
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There is a lot going on in the video.
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If you look, there's two or three different light sources.
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Every time you have that happening, you can have a lot of shadows from different angles.
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So unfortunately, we'll never have the same exact circumstance where we can go back and
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test it to see what might be causing a shadow effect.
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There is this one aspect of it.
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And I'm not sure if our producers can just let the video go, but when they walk in past
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the gate, something startles them and they freak out.
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I mean, for lack of a better description, it's not it.
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There's no way this is acting.
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Actors don't do it this well.
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Something startles them to the right.
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And they spin around and they kind of run out.
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And the video kind of goes, you know, as it would if you were terrified.
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I think that is genuine.
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If you look, they're looking at something towards the back of the yard and something
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spooks them where I feel that it might be a little bit of, I don't know, call it forensic
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gymnastics is to say that it was caused by this thing off to the right because you can
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see right there that shadow appears on top of the fence, but he's not looking to the right.
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If this was some sort of entity that was like three feet away from him, I think that's
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what would really scare anybody.
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So that's where you have these theories that people are saying, well, it's parsed, cloaked,
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You didn't want to be seen, but only the video did up.
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So I don't know about that.
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I think just based on the video, it's great that we have a vacation that it's not been
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I know you talk about confirmation bias as well.
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Explain to the audience, you know, how you think that might be working its way into
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this as an alternative theory.
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Well, if you think about it and go back to the original, the whole background of what
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just preceded this is you had this really bright object that's straight across the sky,
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And I do believe that that now is a meteoroid and it may have nothing to do with the fence
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They believe they saw a light come down to their backyard.
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There was a lot of light and emotion noise.
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And so when they went out to the backyard, they're already adrenaline pumping, they're
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hypersensitive to sites and sounds.
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I'm in no way adjusting that they made anything up, but perception can be skewed now that this
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is something out of this world we're out to see in our backyard.
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And then anything that might have a combination of shadows or sites they're not used to, it
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can be amplified in your visual perception.
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And this is to suggestion, but I do feel the witnesses are being credible as far as describing
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what they saw, especially look at that reaction when they see whatever it is back there and
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they're running out of there.
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And it's affected at least angel to this day.
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He still has trouble with what he saw.
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