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In part one of SkyWatcher, you heard a lot of very believable people making truly unbelievable
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SkyWatcher's objective is to use the scientific method to validate or invalidate these
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claims and hopefully usher in a new understanding of reality.
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For SkyWatcher Part 2, our focus is on data.
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In this episode, you will meet James Fowler.
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James runs the technology team here at SkyWatcher and over the past few years, he has put together
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what I consider to be by far the highest quality private repository of UAP data in the world.
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For the first time, James has agreed to be interviewed on camera and we will be releasing
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the data that he's collected over the past many years.
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And we're out here in the desert running our second SkyWatcher event of the year.
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As you've heard about, we're focused on two different types of UAP calling.
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We have machine calling and we have psionic calling.
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We've had success with both of these different types.
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But over the past few days, on the machine calling side, we've witnessed a lot of spectacular
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Every time we have an event, we have things happen that I truly cannot explain.
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We and the rest of our team are doing our very best to collect a robust set of data to
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share with all of you.
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But I hope you can understand that it's not as easy as it sounds.
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We're talking about objects that seemingly are able to appear and disappear in real time.
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We're talking about objects that seem to evade our sensors.
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They seem to actually turn our sensors off at times.
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And I can say firsthand that crazy shit keeps happening.
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I consider myself to be a very logical, rational person.
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This rabbit hole, the rabbit hole of UAPs and consciousness, has been hands down the
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craziest experience of my life.
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So today, we had a class seven come in about 3,000 feet, 135 degree heading.
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It's preloaded ground saw visually.
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Their eyes, we have it on radar as well.
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We've been collecting UAP data for more than five years with electro-mechanical signaling,
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which we call our dog whistle.
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Generally speaking, we see three to five different classes of UAP per day during operations.
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After we turn on the dog whistle, UAPs literally come to us day after day.
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To make sense of our data, we had to define a lexicon and we based it on flight characteristics.
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We've broken the UAPs down into nine classes or types.
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Some of these classes may be the same UAP under different flight configurations, but
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at this point, given their behavior or confidence, they don't align with conventional
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or tourist-related explanations.
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Each UAP class has different characteristics.
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Some shimmer, some tumble, some spin, some look like they're alive and they just fly
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like a living object in the sky.
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UAPs are extremely hard to image.
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What is seen with the naked eye is generally not what is seen under camera.
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The class one often spins, tumbles through the sky, craft looks like a black body.
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It appears to flash, pulse, multiple times per second.
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There appears to be some kind of cloud or vapor around it.
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We've seen class ones, informations up to 22, 23 flying in different flight formations,
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different flock formations.
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The class two is the classic tick-tack.
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We've seen it in groups of two to three, often flying very erratically.
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We've seen these a couple years in a row and usually we see them in groups.
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The class three, the blob, a pulsing, vibrating cloud.
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There's something maybe perhaps a cylinder kind of in the middle that has a different light
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like a flame and then it vibrates and pulses as it moves through space.
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The class four is your orb.
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We've only seen it in infrared.
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The class four seems to only come during certain activities in conjunction with perhaps the
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We don't have enough data yet to confirm.
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The class five we call the manter ray.
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It seems to tumble and rotate as it moves through the sky.
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Class six is bright star.
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The class seven is a jellyfish.
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It's probably about two meters across that the head is purple and black in color and then
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The class eight we call the hornet.
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It looks very similar to the class seven, the jellyfish except for its bigger and is almost
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like a jellyfish carrying something.
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The class nine is the egg.
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The class nine isn't something we have a lot of data on.
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We have a sky watcher during our California event.
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It's an emerging class.
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We have strong evidence that it probably exists but we don't have data to concisely describe.
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We have our sensor team up on the hill actively collecting data.
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We have our psionic team actively operating both day and night and we have a lot of data
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We have our sensor team up on the hill actively collecting data.
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We have both day and night and we have two helicopters on standby ready to be deployed.
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The nice thing about having helicopters available out here is opposed to drones or airplanes
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is essentially helicopters can hover for hours at a time and we can put people on board.
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Our drones are limited in altitude and also in just time on station because of their battery
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We like using the helicopters.
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We can put multiple people in the helicopter with the number of observation equipment,
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So it's really useful platform for us.
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Oh, the sun is to the east right now.
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We've got that little bit of shading right there on the lower left of the target.
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Which if that's actual shading that the sun's coming from this angle.
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So the usual question I get is where's the evidence?
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In science, just having data doesn't mean anything.
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So the reason there is a scientific process is because it works and it's replicable.
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It's a standard upon which all science is accomplished.
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So by doing and using those kinds of approaches here at Skywatcher, we're going to be able
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to collect the data, get it peer reviewed.
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Not because the peer review tells you that the conclusion is right but because that allows
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others to look at what it is that you did and determine whether or not you did it right.
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So that hasn't been done anywhere yet.
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It's been done in bits and pieces here or there but this is now a comprehensive framework
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for accomplishing the goal.
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My name is Mark Von Rittenkamp and I have been covering the UFO or UAP topic for the Hill
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on the opinion side for about four years now.
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I'm excited to have a discussion today with James Fowler who leads the technology side
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of Skywatcher and has collected some very, very interesting data that we are going to be
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taking a closer look at today.
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James, thank you so much for joining me.
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So we stumbled into this pretty much face planted right in this topic.
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We didn't want this topic to come into our lives.
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I'm not a uophologist.
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I'm not a Foxx molder.
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I have no faith in UFO, UAP stuff.
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I have no belief in off-planet anything.
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Frankly, we follow the data and the data we have indicates that there's probably three
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There's probably a blue bucket, America made.
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There's probably a red bucket made in China and there's probably another bucket which
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I don't know where that bucket comes from.
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This isn't a spiritual activity for us.
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This isn't emotional.
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This is strictly facts and data driven.
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And we've tried very hard to keep it that way.
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So how did you end up here, out here, in undisclosed location in the desert looking up at
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the sky and looking for UAP?
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Well, after my career, I started several companies and started running different projects
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for the government as a subcontractor.
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And through those activities, we started noting anomalies.
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And one thing led to another, now we have what we believe is compelling data on UAPs.
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Is there anything else at a high level that really stood out to you that you have observed,
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you and your team have observed out in the field?
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So the class three is very spectacular.
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We've seen the class three as soon as yesterday.
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We didn't see any today, just class sevens.
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But the class three looks like a blob.
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Looks like a peptobizmo colored blob in the sky.
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I don't know how else to say it.
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The pulses and vibrates.
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And I don't know what that means.
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I don't know why we're seeing that.
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But it's definitely in the sky.
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And we believe we're able to dog whistle the UAPs to our location.
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And when we do, we get different observations.
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And the class three is quite spectacular.
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So James, could you explain just a little, maybe a little bit more depth on this dog whistle,
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this parent capability or technological element that potentially appears to attract
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We have turned on our equipment that we've customized and created what we believe is a dog
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whistle and UAPs show up.
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So through that process, we started a systematic, cause and effect if you will experimentation.
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And we've arrived at some very custom capabilities that when we deploy these capabilities, we get
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different UAP responses.
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Every time we turn on this equipment and do the things we need to do for the right amount
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of time, we get a response.
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And we've also experimented with not using the equipment and seeing if we see things and
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Which is interesting because all of our data has been daytime.
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We have no data from night.
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None of our data are lights in the sky that you have to squint your eyes and put your
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finger in your nose and hope you see what you want to see.
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No, our data is broad daylight, often well lit like this, maybe in a desert data that's
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very, very viewable.
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We've had over 300 sorties now of UAP incursions into our airspace where we're working.
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Can I quickly interrupt a sort of just for the benefit of the audience?
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That's an individual flight over that you tracked with your sensors and that accurate.
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Yeah, so I call a sorty when we have an observation of a class of UAP moving through air
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space, that class might be on a flock.
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We've seen flocks of up to 20 plus and we also have singletons that move through like
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We had two class sevens move through.
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So each one by itself would be a sorty.
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So we've seen hundreds of UAPs perhaps running an event and we have 200 sorties in a day.
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We don't know if that's one aircraft seen 109 times more or if that's 200 separate
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airframes or aircraft or UAPs or whatever they are moving through our airspace separately.
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So we just call it a sorty and accept that we don't know and accept that hey, as an observation
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from a technology perspective and science perspective, this is one set of data.
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So I'd like to maybe turn now to and acknowledge the skeptics out there.
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It's good to be skeptical.
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You want to be skeptical.
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And we learned quite a bit from the New Jersey incidents that a lot of what people were
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seeing were just normal flames in the sky.
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If you turn on the news, almost all the footage was commercial airliners.
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We know that, right?
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Anybody who's seen a commercial or knows what they're looking at can say that.
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When you're doing your analyses or you're tracking an object's live, are you counting for
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Are you accounting for?
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Let's start with wind.
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So yes, we do look at the wind.
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We don't look that hard at it.
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A lot of these objects are moving faster than the wind.
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A lot of them will do maneuvers such as the tick-tax.
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We see them come straight down as it from space, tumbling and spinning, you know, at mock
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It's important to note that all of the classes, everything one of them, we have characteristics
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they're unexplainable with current human technology and our current understanding of nature.
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So it just so happens that to track hypersonics, to track stealth, to track drones and non-ideal
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conditions or aircraft and non-ideal conditions is the same technology you need to track UAPs.
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By building the system net new and calling it Skywatcher, that's what we've done.
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We've architected design and are building and soon integrating this next generation
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So we are actively working with and seeking more third party non-neuophologist, physicist,
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scientist, academia.
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We want them to come and analyze our data and produce third party independent analysis.
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And to be clear, James, these individuals would be privy to the sensitive data that you're
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They would get full access to our data.
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There would just be in a controlled environment where they don't take all the data with them.
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They just produce the report and anything were adapted for release.
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That is an insightful and I think a very important element to highlight here.
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And I'd like to turn this into a public service announcement that anybody watching who may
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be an expert in academic, who has an interest in this topic now after watching this, to
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reach out to Skywatcher and to, if you have the bandwidth and ability to lend your services,
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I know the team would very much appreciate that and respect that.
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And I think an objective third party analysis would really move the discussion forward.
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An operation like this, I think, is a pretty unique operation.
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Just giving us the opportunity to collect data on this phenomenon, the reality of this
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It's also giving us the opportunity to test out some theories as well.
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I would say the most significant encounter that I've had here was probably interacting
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Every day we've identified some form of jellyfish UAP that seems to be attracted to our
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machine calling system.
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Every day the jellyfish has gotten pretty close to the radar and yesterday it was so close
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that the team there could actually see it with their naked eye.
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It looked like a cylinder but when we got under some power with magnification it looked
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more like a class 7 or jellyfish.
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It was being super, super bright and reflective and whatever was hanging off the bottom of
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it was not really easy to see but you can see that there was something floating beneath
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You know, 135 heading, class 7, about these.
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It's a game of chess, right?
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They're actually probing us the valedir capabilities.
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If this is an advanced species and it's smart enough to do what it's doing, they have the
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upper hand and we are the little ants under the magnifying glass.
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We had a class 7 UAP, we would have had it launched the Hilo to pursue it before the
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It actually came and hovered right over us.
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For the first time we saw a class 7 with a naked eye.
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It was very blindy, looked metallic.
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Through our optics we've always thought it was purple or black.
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Frankly the reflections look like chrome almost color.
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Looking at the east, looking to the east.
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Check heading around 68 degrees.
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It's probably 4,000 feet above us, about maybe 1 kilometer out, horizontal distance above
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It looked like 8 meters total and distance from top to bottom.
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The top looked like a mushroom, like a big jellyfish.
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It was very, very, very bright white and vibrating and flashing like pulsing.
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There was like three flashing panels like equal distance going down it.
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I have seen some last couple days through a sensor so I've seen them before so it wasn't
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like aweshocking but it was kind of taking them back to be like oh wow, really I'm seeing
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one with my actual visual eyes right here, right above me at 4,000 feet.
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Look like a jumper under canopy at 4,000 feet which is the same distance when they pull.
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I knew I'm not seeing stuff.
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It's the same thing that I've been seeing on sensor and all the characteristics were consistent
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with what a class 7 should look like.
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The class 7 is the jellyfish.
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It's not the jellyfish you've seen on TV.
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It's a different jellyfish.
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We think the head of the jellyfish is about 2 meters in size.
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We think the tentacles hang down about 3 to 5 meters in size, varying and depending on
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which one you're looking at.
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You can see these stills are taken from different jellyfish.
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You can see this jellyfish, the tentacles look very, very long on this one they look shorter
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compared to the head.
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As you can see, the nodules on the tentacles light up.
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Again, this light appears to us to go from head to tail and pulse and light up the nodules
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Also sometimes it looks like an automaton or something with an alien movie where it's
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like the tail hanging out.
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Like it's seeking something and sometimes it looks like it's a jellyfish in the sky.
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It seems to undulate as it moves.
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We have seen these take direct flight paths.
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And yesterday, for the first time we had two in formation.
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We've never seen that before.
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We chased down one of those two and it deviated as flight path as we approximated.
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Then it elevated directly straight up as an directly vertical.
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The class 7 is very hard to image and at distance it looks very similar to the class 6 and
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also the class 8 at distance.
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What you're going to see is it's kind of a call swimming in through the sky.
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There aren't a lot of exotic colors.
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There is reflectivity.
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But that color you see right there is very akin to the class 6 when it's not emitting
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high energy or whatever it's doing.
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So when it's not vibrating.
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So we don't know what that means.
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You can kind of start to see now the tentacles hanging down as it moves.
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In IR they're very obvious.
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They're less obvious in EO.
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So we have multiple indications that this is a real object.
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There's not manmade and that it is flying through our airspace and does want to avoid us.
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At the end of day two, our psionic team made a bold prediction.
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That the next day we would see an interaction between two different types of UAPs in the
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The class 7s we believe are aggressive.
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They appear to want to encroach on us and get over us.
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The class 5 we saw yesterday seemed to put itself between us and the class 7 and the
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class 7 then egressed to the north and the east.
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Let's do like an 11-tint startup.
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How long can you idle on the green one?
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On day three around noon, our radar started to detect a class 2 tick-tack.
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We had our size who had just finished doing their thing and one of them had brought it the
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fact that something was going to come from a very specific direction.
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He had a really good feeling about a specific location.
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There have been multiple instances of the psionic team predicting when the machine calling
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in the radar team will actually sense an object.
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The class 2 is the classic tick-tack.
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We have had laser range trying to return on them to give us distance through that method
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and the optical zoom we are able to measure.
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We think there are about 40 feet in length and they appear to be traveling supersonic and
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A very interesting thing which you'll see in the videos is when we do see them they're
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at the edge of our sensor capabilities.
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You'll see there are striations around these stills and sometimes it almost looks like
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it bends, almost like it's not a solid mass.
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When it's spinning when it comes out of the spin for a second it looks like part of it
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like a parabola-thervid is bendable and it bends.
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At this point is it dropping rapidly?
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The only thing that's changing is the angle that we're looking at it with.
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The elevation angle is that right?
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We're moving in a downward fashion.
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The system operator is having a very hard time keeping in frame because it's falling so fast.
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You can't zoom in and our servos don't move that fast so our equipment can't handle that
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zoom factor with the speed.
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You'll see multiple UAPs and these as in they're flying together.
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I don't know that they're in a formation.
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If you go frame or frame you can see they're cylinders.
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That's the class two.
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Same thing at this room.
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Three point of view from the radar.
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Fascinating platform very well.
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We sent the Hilo out to intercept the Tic Tac.
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But the first attempt failed because our radar was being jammed by the class seven jellyfish.
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Where were we in the sky the first time you saw that?
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That was when you were seven kilometers or so out to the northwest 340 at the spot that
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We have China clenched and we just let us.
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Our helicopter launched and about a half mile out the helicopter stopped moving.
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But it would not go forward.
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It would not go left or right.
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So we're kind of imagine like a blanket above us.
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So maybe we were in proximity to it and it would say don't come any higher.
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Because that was my told you guys all right.
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We were called out to intercept an object that was found on radar.
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We went to the location it was supposed to be at.
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We circled a couple times and we requested the climb another thousand feet.
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The instrumentation started to bounce and the collective base was frozen.
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I've never experienced anything like the before.
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Over 4,000 hours of flight time and this has never happened before.
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So we don't know how they're jamming us.
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We don't know how they're turning our equipment off yet.
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Best guess would be a microwave signal.
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We're not seeing it on the frequencies we're using for our collection equipment.
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Yeah, this is North but it's not getting the reading from.
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Either it's moving supersonic out of here with noiselessly or it's flipping a switch
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and now you see me now you know.
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And I kind of feel like it's the second one.
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So it's really looking interesting that we're seeing multiple classes, three classes today
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two, five and seven.
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Saw them all with binoculars and or the naked eye which is really new for us.
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We've not had that experience in the last five years.
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And the fact that the class two and class five seem to be putting themselves between us
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We don't know what that means.
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We don't know if data yet to say that conclusively.
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And I'm not quite sure how many times we have to see something like that until we understand
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that that's probably the case.
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Also interesting that the class five and class two took three or four days to show up.
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The class five we call the manter ray.
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It looks to be like is written a manter ray.
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It has round everywhere.
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I don't think there's anything straight or nearly straight.
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We actually went frame by frame on this because it was tumbling slowly and derived a three
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model of what we think it looks like.
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Here you can see it's tumbling and spinning on multiple axes as it comes through the frame.
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And you said this is going perpendicular to the wind and faster than the wind.
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Yes, it was on radar.
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It was on imagery, multiple bands.
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And the interesting thing is the radar shows this vibrating as well, the same heartbeat signal,
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which is really a boost in our analysis because only UAPs appear to have the vertical and
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horizontal heartbeat.
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And aircraft, balloons, birds, drones, they don't.
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They have a flat line trajectory and also a flat line radar signature.
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So that's the class five.
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After every event, it seems as though we leave with more questions than we do answers.
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Our mission in our investigation is truly just getting started.
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We're quickly learning, in fact, how many things that we still don't know.
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Skywatcher will release full modules for each of the nine UAP classes on YouTube and
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our website in the coming weeks.
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Please understand that this is a live operation unfolding in real time.
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We are doing our best to create a taxonomy of these objects based on the data we've collected.
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But we need your help.
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Part three of Skywatcher is going to be about Sionics.
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It's going to be about the team that we've assembled.
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You're going to hear from some of them directly.
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You'll hear about their experience, their background, and how they found themselves here alongside
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And if we can validate the existence of these abilities completely and scientifically,
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then that information necessitates an entirely new concept of reality and our place in it as human beings.
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