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Do you believe that extra threshold intelligence has visited planet Earth?
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I think you can go a step further. It hasn't just visited. It's been here a long time and it's still here.
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My name is Alex Clocus. I'm an entrepreneur and investor at Salt.
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And about two years ago, I brought Dr. Gary Nolan, who's a tenured Stanford professor, to Salt.
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And I asked him, if you had to assign a probability to that statement,
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what probability would you assign? 100%.
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And that idea that a prestigious world-recognized scientist would make a statement that he is 100%
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confident. Blue my mind. That statement seems so incredible that it's tough to believe.
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Maybe a lot of people hear that and they don't believe it.
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A year later, I brought Colonel Carl Nell to Salt.
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Carl's had a decorated career leading our military at the highest levels. And he certainly
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did not mince words. Nonhuman intelligence exists. Nonhuman intelligence has been interacting
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with humanity. This interaction is not new and it's been ongoing.
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How confident are you that that is true? There's zero doubt.
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If their statements are true, it completely defies our current understanding of reality.
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The problem, however, is that both Dr. Nolan and Colonel Nell, they're kind of second hand
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sources. And so we continue to push further. And ultimately, we found those primary sources.
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We found folks that are actually on the crash recovery team. They have been around,
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they have held, and they have transported, supposed craft of nonhuman origin.
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Their claims are so bold and extraordinary that they truly are tough to believe.
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So we set up an initiative to go one step further.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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At Skywatcher, we've set out to prove it.
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First, let's meet Jacob Barber. Jacob Barber is a dedicated patriot who has served his country
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for 30 years, working both overtly and covertly for multiple agencies within the Department of
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Defense, the Department of the Interior, and the private sector. Jake was recruited into Air Force
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Special Warfare in the 1990s and then transitioned to the broader intelligence community as a contractor
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Hello, Jake. Hello, Alex. I really appreciate you sitting down to have a chat with Man.
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Absolutely. I appreciate you giving me the invitation.
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So Jake, do you believe that a higher form of nonhuman intelligence has been visiting this planet?
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And when you make that claim, Jake, how confident are you that claim is true?
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I'm 100% confident that that claim is true.
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Oh my goodness. Oh boy. Yeah, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's maybe let's dive into that a little bit. So you were involved in
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some form of crash recovery projects that evolved frontier experimental tech from the US government.
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So the crash part of it crash sounds like something that's unintentional, let's say.
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So the reason you would have a crash recovery program to begin with, a broad crash recovery program,
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you wouldn't set up a program like that in order to go get exotic or nonhuman aircraft.
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So teams are set up and trained and outfitted with all the tools and techniques and training,
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three T's in order to facilitate that mission. So if hypothetically,
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something ridiculous were to happen, and something of exotic nature were to crash,
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you're going to call the people that have the most experience with that, and they're going to
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be the ones you deploy. And I'll add a fourth T to that, which is trust. And because of our
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particular past and history, we had the trust of the US government. And we were deployed on
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particular tasks, which included the recovery of exotic craft, of nonhuman origin,
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that were a, that were connected. If I could, if I could inject that for one second,
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what about the craft made you so certain that it was nonhuman in origin?
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Well, first of all, it was the reaction of our entire crew and our leadership structure.
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So it was atypical from how we would communicate and treat any other crash recovery. And then
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the object for technology itself was something that was inconceivable as being manmade
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from my perspective and the perspective of my teammates. What made it inconceivable though?
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inconceivable was that visually completely abstract, but abstract in a very specific way.
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And what I mean by saying that is it's abstract with a consistent public idea of what an
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abstract aircraft would look like. So, so Jake, I mean, what does that mean, man? What, when you say
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abstract, you say there's something crazy about these aircraft. I mean, like, what, like, can you,
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I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I can talk about. A disk. A disk.
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a metallic egg. Okay. A metallic egg. And do you have any idea like how these craft were
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piloted or kind of controlled? Well, it was obvious that this crash recovery effort
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was coordinated with another program that had to do with an interest in how consciousness
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had an impact or could interface with technology. We were also invited to be part of a program
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that dealt with the research and development of the building of a system when which a particular
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human, not nonhuman, a particular human with a disposition and talent for manipulating their
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own consciousness could interface with certain technology. So, there's a certain effort to reverse
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engineer these craft that effort very quickly led to the idea that the power plant for these
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systems and the interface to manipulate that power plant wasn't done through mechanical
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interface of levers of pho-ngs in order to manipulate control systems. It was done through the mind.
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Not only do we have people from the actual crash recovery team, we have another team. They're
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called the psionics team. There seems to be a subset of people that have the unique ability to
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actually summon these craft to be able to focus their thoughts and make objects appear in the sky.
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Jordan, I really appreciate you joining us here today. Alex, it's an honor to be here,
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man. Thank you for having me. So, maybe let's start by sharing a little bit about your background.
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Yeah, yeah. So, most recently I worked in the space technology space, a little bit of data
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assigned, ultimately taking different imagery types and trying to solve solutions for the utility
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industry. I'm curious, by chance, do you believe that a higher form of non-human intelligence has
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visited this planet? I'm certain. How certain are you? 100%. I mean, Jordan, that's a pretty bold
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statement. Where does that certainty come from? A certainty comes from my first-hand experience
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in what I term a psionic exploitation program between the years of 2005 and 2010, where I
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interfaced and worked with non-human intelligence and things like UAP directly.
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I mean, Jordan, that is an incredible claim for the viewer at home. What were you doing in this
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program on a daily basis? Yeah, so this would look at things that many people would consider,
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woo-woo-wee, like astral projection or meditation. But ultimately, what we were really investigating
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was how far could we stretch the bounds of human consciousness? Beyond that, how could we get human
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consciousness to interface directly with things like recover materials and recover crafts?
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What I can tell you from the craft and some of the different projects that we worked on directly
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is ultimately that they interfaced with us. What I mean by that is my consciousness could project
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into these craft and recover materials and then access a suite of commands and essentially
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capabilities to do various things, including piloting, but ultimately the story is not about
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piloting some UAP with your mind. The story is much more about what is consciousness? Why can we
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interface with these things? Do you have material that supports these claims?
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I have tons of material, linearly autobiographical records that will support my claims.
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And Jake, for the listener at home, based on your first hand experience,
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there are craft of non-human origin that you have recovered that seem to be
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piloted or interfacing directly with human consciousness. Is that correct?
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Yeah, let me tell you a very short story. Okay. Okay.
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An aircraft crashed. Yeah. My team was deployed. Yeah. We secured the perimeter. Yeah.
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We secured that target. Yeah. We transported that target. We escorted that target and provided
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security for that target. That target was transported to a facility of a very well-known government
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private partner. The decision was made to do to bring in a team that represented a different
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private partner who was working on consciousness and the mechanism by which humans could interface
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with technology. The two were merged and we were involved with that process. You were involved
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in that process. Yes. So Jake, based on your first hand experience, it sounds like there's that word
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first hand. Okay. Yeah. But it is first hand. It is first hand. Yeah.
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Based on your first hand experience, it sounds like we're living in a science fiction novel.
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And there seem to be craft of non-human origin that are flying around our skies.
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And certain human consciousness says seem to be able to interface with these craft.
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And there are organizations or institutions, if you will, all around the world that know this fact.
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Yeah. Isn't it depressing that that that should be shocking?
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It is very depressing. Yeah. This shouldn't be shocking. It's saying God like, you know what?
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I mean, forgive me, but I'm over that. So like, let's get past that because that is the case.
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And it is exciting, but we have a duty here. We have a moment in time. Thanks to friends like
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David Grush, who has stuck his neck out and paved a trail with our government, who for better or
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worse has control over a lot of things. This is an opportunity for everyone to make a situation
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appear where we realize that our consciousness has an impact on our everyday life. I can tell you
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that this is not unique to the United States and it's not unique to the most well-known private
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partners of the Department of Defense and the intelligence community. There is a global effort
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and interest in this and a global capability in doing this. Crash, crash recovery is something
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and reverse engineering is something that is being done by a number of agencies or organizations
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worldwide. And I know that because my team has been sought after and offered jobs to go
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perform our services for employers outside the United States. Yeah.
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There seem to be a lot of people that are making incredible claims. And so we took all of these
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individuals that were making these claims and we said, prove it. You claim that we can summon
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things in the sky, prove it to us. We've got the sensors, we've got the team, we've now assembled
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everyone and we've asked these folks to show us and actually verify what they're saying.
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And so here we are. We are here in the California Desert and we've assembled a group of about
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15 people. We have a variety of different units within the group including a sensor and data team,
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an operations team, a psionics team and a scientific team led by Dr. Gary Nolan. And we are here to
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see what happens. We are going to spend three days together leveraging the psionics team,
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seeing if we can actually make something appear in the sky, seeing if we can track it,
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seeing if we can actually gather data and verify these supposed claims.
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Okay, so when the NSI team gets eyes on a UAP, they'll let me know in relation to where it's at
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over the city and then I'll essentially go to that place, see if I can get my soda-strong camera.
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So very focused in camera to see if we can pull out any KID features, any kind of details of the
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craft that make it unique. Everybody's heard of flying saucers and alien technology and everything
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else. This project is aimed to prove what has not been proved in years past. It's to gather
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substantial evidence to show the American populists that there are substantial alien life and
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craft and everything else flying around. My name is Dan Flexner. I'm Air Force. I've been in special
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tactics for 20 years now. I've been in charge of rescuing, recovering medical operations for
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specialized teams throughout my career and now currently moving into more of a civilian world for this.
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So I'm 20 year Air Force Special Warfare. I joined in 2000 as a combat controller.
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Very air-centric, very aware of what's going on above. Basically, a translator for the two
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between ground forces and guys that are up there. I've seen a lot of things that I just cannot
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explain it. Here we are and I'm not really sure what to expect, to be honest. I think when you
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talk to the teams they have unwavering conviction that something is going to happen.
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That we're actually going to see things in the sky. Not only do they think that we're going to see
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things in the sky, but we're going to be able to track it. We're going to be able to actually
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gather a variety of different data related to this thing.
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My name is Michael Batista. I'm 32 years old and I'm a former US Army Green Bray third group.
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And Mike, do you believe that a higher form of non-human intelligence has been visiting this planet?
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Yes I do. When you make that statement, how confident are you that is true?
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I'm extremely confident. Do you feel like you believe that is true or do you feel like you know
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that is true? I know that is true. When did your experience with the phenomenon begin?
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The first experiences I was having was my early teens and it started to accelerate as I grew up
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and as my time in the military was ending and I was getting out, it really accelerated at that point.
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And when this happens, can you explain how it usually manifests or how you experience it?
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It usually manifests as something anomalous in the sky, orbs, crafts, different
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pyramid-looking objects, moving at an extreme rate of speed and doing very angular movements.
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When you do this, are there other people around? Do they actually see you doing this?
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I have multiple witnesses that can testify that that is a fact.
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And how many times do you feel like you've been able to summon something in the sky?
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I think that the the kind of belief of the team is very important.
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I think that we've assembled all of the folks that have done this before
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and what we're doing does not seem to be new.
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In fact, it seems as though there's various groups that have been doing this to some degree for quite a while.
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So the items that we saw last night could maybe be explained as satellites in some instances
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or a space trash, but really when we started seeing a radic movement, we started seeing some
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vertical tracks and then tracks going from left to right in the sky, west to east, and then go
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again vertical. And then we saw the tracks change and change course direction and speed.
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So I think that's a piloted aircraft of some sort. I think it's either an intelligent
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being or it's being told what to do. Didn't flash. It got brighter when it maybe had a reflective
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surface. I don't know exactly what it was. There's a few explanations of why that could be, but I
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see those in a varying range of places from Emporia, Virginia to Fayetteville to here. I've seen them
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everywhere. Only explanation I have is that it could be reflective light or particles that are in
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our inner atmosphere, but besides that when they start moving and tracking in different directions,
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I think we're seeing some sort of a craft of some sort.
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During our time together, all 15 of us saw some form of unusual lights in the sky.
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These lights would randomly appear, stay for some short period, and then disappear.
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Oftentimes, multiple lights would seem to appear once. They would frequently move in patterns or
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angles that, at least to me, seemed unusual for a plane, satellite, meteor, or space debris.
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But I am no expert. On the last day, however, one thing did happen.
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We had a couple of our folks that felt like it was a good time to try to communicate with potentially a
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craft or an entity that was out there through the methods that they use. I just took a spot up on the
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roof to be able to observe what's out and around us and then also have another set of eyes that are
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up above us. So, got on the roof to say, I'll be up here, had my phone. Let's be ready to record
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if something went down and it did. The psionic team claimed to be connecting with an object
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and our sensor data caught this.
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While this was happening, Fred went up to see if he could see anything with his naked eye.
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So, I can hear them talking through certain things. And then he said something like,
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it's forming. As soon as he said that, it stepped out to look behind me and that's when I saw
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it, whatever it was. Suddenly Fred saw a second object appear above our base camp.
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It was all gray, matte, like not shiny at all. It was elongated and oval, where it looked like
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there was, you know, the opposite of a seam bursting out in the middle, going all the
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way around. It looked like a rim because the bottom half of it was extremely dark.
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It made absolutely no sound, which doesn't make sense because of its proximity.
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If it was small, it was something, maybe the size of this razor, then it was really close.
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We were talking five, six hundred feet. If it was larger, which I kind of believe that's what it was,
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looking at five to eight meters long, then probably around 1,500, 2,000 feet
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altitude moving north to south. You know, it looked sturdy, it looked heavy.
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Wasn't a bird. You know, if it were an aircraft, any kind of conventional thing that we have now,
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it would have rocked us how low it was. So, 20 years in the air force and never
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seen anything close to that. Nothing. There was no observable propulsion, there was no wings,
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there was no rotor. With that kind of speed, you should hear something, especially with that close.
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So, I was shaken. Like it was super exciting. I mean, I'm not going to start shaking over an F-16
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flying overhead or a bird dive bomb. That was incredible. I don't know what to say.
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Dr. Nolan was there and this was his perspective. I personally didn't see anything in the sky
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or on the ground, but what I did see was an individual who in the midst of attempting to
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call such an object exactly at the moment that he said he was interacting with something.
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The individual on the roof who had the cameras saw something when we reviewed what it was that
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the person on the roof had seen. Something showed up. I mean, it was fleeting, but it was clearly not
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a bug. And so, what do I have? I have a person who claims to be doing something.
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It was clear that he was in distress at the moment of the supposed interaction.
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And at that moment, something is seen. What do you have? You have a correlation.
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So, we have an egg-shaped object that our sensors caught moving in one direction,
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supposedly connected to our psionics team. And a disc-shaped object that Fred reportedly saw
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moving in a different direction. We worked with an animator to specifically visualize the disc
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that Fred saw. This is a recreation from his vantage point. For reference, this is what he believes
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the disc looked like. And this is the speed we calculated the disc was moving over the building.
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Our experience raises a lot of questions that we don't yet have the answer to.
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I was there not to provide any conclusions. I was there to make sure that everything that was
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being done was being done in a scientifically accurate way as dispassionately as possible.
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And to be part of the advisor team to make sure that this was done in a way that at some point,
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if it ever wanted to be put together into a scientific paper, we had collected the kind of metadata
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required to say, well, we might not have a conclusion, but here is at least a story that tells us
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that the data which we're providing to perhaps some future event might be looked back to and
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said, oh, well, what happened? They are worked. That didn't work. So let's try this again so that we
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can perhaps make it repeatable. Don Paul, who is also present at the event, had this to say.
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Well, I think it's pretty standard fare. There's certain things that the rational mind could
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attribute to it, could be this or could be that, but there are also things which move in ways which
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do not fit the normal laws of physics or aerodynamics. This is something that's pretty well known
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at this point. It goes way back in history. I have a combined 25 years law enforcement, military
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background prior to becoming involved in the similar endeavors in the private sector.
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It's very hard for people who have seen and experienced things to discuss it because even our
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own loved ones, you don't want people to think you're crazy and there's something wrong with you,
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which it's one thing if you see it on a Netflix special or if you have read about it or seen clips
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on TV, if you see it for real, it kind of changes your mindset about stuff. And I have, because of
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my military background, we're trying a lot of aircraft helicopters, fast movers, there are certain
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vehicles that move in ways which are not consistent with regular physics of what we consider aircraft
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in the conventional sense. There's a difference between believing and knowing and you want to work
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with people who know things. So there is no question about the validity. Now it's a matter,
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it's down to the nuts and bolts of how do we produce the evidence we need to make it approachable
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for everyone. The flow of information now seems to be inevitable. You cannot keep the truth from
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people and it seems like reality is just far more complex than people realize. Yeah, it is.
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In this process, I've moved from a very pragmatic person having very pragmatic responsibilities
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to be burdened with things that are more abstract and cerebral. But still having to keep my foot
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in the pragmatic world. And that's a tough thing because the truth can be
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distracting in that way. We are in a world right now where we're battling over resources.
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And if we can use that technology, if we can understand a way to interface with technology
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to create energy systems that can supply for our basic needs, then we're all better off.
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Yeah, and I agree. Yeah, I agree. And it feels like we're on the precipice of entering a new reality.
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And I really appreciate everything you're doing and I'm excited to hopefully make a dent alongside
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you. Yeah, let's make some dents. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it.
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All right, to dance. To dance.
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During our time together, there were multiple events that caused me to seriously question
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certain assumptions I had about reality. The day we were wrapping up our event,
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something incredible happened. There was a mass UAP sighting directly in the area where we ran
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our operation. There were dozens of claims on neighborhood apps of residents seeing anomalous
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things in the sky. The story picked up steam and in a few days there were thousands of tweets
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about the incident. The FAA even imposed a temporary flight restriction over the area where we ran
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our operation. Is this causation? Did we cause this event? Is this correlation? Or was it purely
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coincidental? We don't profess to have all the answers, but we do believe it's imperative
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that we find out. So we've set up Skywatcher and this is only the beginning. Skywatcher is not
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a media company. It is a robust, well-financed initiative focused on validating or invalidating
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these supposed claims. We invite you to join us in this initiative and we intend to share all
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our findings because perhaps in order for us to actually level up, we need to acknowledge
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that reality is much more than it seems.
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