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Well, Tom DeLong, who's the co-founder of I think 182, and who's worked with you.
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Oh, way back when he was a kid, Joe, we had to the stars Academy.
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That was the one thing that you guys worked on together.
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No, no, that was Louis-Luzando intercepted him.
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Yes, let him use Steven Spitty-Mail.
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Well, Tom DeLong and I predate that going back to the early 2000s, I think, after the
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disclosure project press conference in 2001.
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And then, yeah, I got to know those guys.
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And it was, they were fun.
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Oh, yeah, good time.
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Do you still keep a contract with Tom?
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I haven't in a while because once he got pulled into the disinformation nexus, right?
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Then he got convinced that evil alien, there were these good and bad evil aliens in a war
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and then he got convinced and then he got pulled in by Louis-Luzando into doing the
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stars Academy and then he got run over by those guys.
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So I mean, it's a sad story.
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I really try to stick with people who can kind of stay on path, on track, you know.
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But no, I never, I mean, Tom DeLong was a great guy.
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We had good times together and an interesting person.
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Do you guys still keep a contract?
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No, I haven't been because I try to keep myself free of folks who don't stay on the straight
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narrow when it comes to what they know.
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Because as soon as that we were doing our national press club event in 2023 and June, and
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it broke in all the news that he was talking about the aliens blowing up villages and killing
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Justain Lee, the year before, or two years before, we had uncovered that in the Dr. Jacques
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Valleis in one of his books in 1992 put an entry in that he had received a CIA document
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from 1985, chronicling the documenting the fact that the CIA was running abductions on
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quote, peasants in Brazil and Argentina for its psychological warfare value.
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Now we're trying to get that original document, but I think the people, a couple people
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I know who have it have been told, don't provide that, you're a dead man.
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That's 40 years ago that there's a document that proves that the CIA's psychological
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warfare operations out of the agency were conducting abductions for exactly for the reasons
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So I tell people that is a fact and it's a fact that needs to be proven as this whole
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subject is disclosed.
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Otherwise it's going to be the UFOs are real, ET's are real, and they're here to eat
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Now we have to go to war, right?
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I mean, it's almost like a automaticity, like that little six first grader, six year old
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going, aren't you afraid of being abducted?
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I'm going, no, not unless there's a covert.
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