Transcript: NASA's Forbidden Alien Study Finds Proof of Spiritual Beings | Chris & Emily Bledsoe

Thank you so much for coming down here and doing this. It's an honor and I'm very grateful

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for you guys spending the time and we timed it perfectly with your birthday and we had

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a quite an amazing experience last night on the beach. So what was it we were seeing

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last night on the beach? That's the first time I've ever seen anything like that. It's

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also the first time I've ever stared at the sky for that long I think. There was a lot

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of air traffic. We could see a lot of planes flying around. We could tell what they were. There was

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obviously a very dense highway of airplanes landing in Tampa that were coming off the beach but

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there were some things that we saw that were definitely not airplanes that were moving in weird

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directions with the lights getting very bright and then going very dim to where we couldn't see

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them anymore. What were those orbs? Well they were the orbs and the question of what are they

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is an ongoing study that's a research that we're all trying to figure out. It would have been much

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closer but I think all the traffic and the population from the beach kind of makes it more shy.

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Yeah. So it's a sort of give you an introduction Chris. Out of all the people that I've talked to

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involved in this phenomenon I have a lot of people on the podcast before who have spoken about

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it and studied it for years and it seems to be the consensus that you are one of the most if not

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the most credible person that has ever experienced this phenomenon. As I told you earlier my friend Andy

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Boostamonte who was here a couple weeks ago was telling me that through all of his experience filming

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that show that he was doing for history channel the Beyond Skinwalker show the night that he spent

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with you witnessing those orbs in the sky. Out of everything else he said that was the one thing

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to stuck out with to him the most and it was the one thing that was truly unexplainable and real

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now back to the show. There's more people in the government and aerospace scientists that seem to

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be really interested in you the CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO and even the Vatican seem to be very interested in

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you and they also seem to have their hands in this. So can you go ahead and explain how this whole

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thing started for you? I mean I know you've told a bunch of the stories before on on other podcasts

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and your book goes through it very well. UFO of God. Incredible book. Thank you. Incredible book.

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This nearly 17 years ago we were let's say over 17 years ago and 2006 we had sold a company that

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was going down the tubes because of the deserts not the desert storm but the 911 attack when they

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blew up the World Trade Center. I got caught with too many houses for sale. I was a builder,

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contractor and had been successful for nearly 20 years and building anywhere from 80 to 120 homes a

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year. My wife and I had a remax royalty company. She sold them. I built them.

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But when they destroyed the tower it locked the Fort Bragg which is where we live.

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Now called Fort Liberty I think but it'll always be Bragg to me. So the soldier squit behind

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homes most everybody did it just through the housing market and two it was the start of the

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housing collapse. It further collapsed in 2008 completely but I was in a bad way. I was dealing

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with Crohn's disease and had been for since I was a young guy in my 20s and at that point it started

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getting worse and worse and worse because stress makes it worse. So I had to worst stress trying to

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hide the fact that I'm shelling out everything I ever owned money, apartments was going out the

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wind to try to keep this company at least to pay the interest on the notes. So we sold the company

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in 2005 and I'd had a near-death experience in 2004 from being over-medicated. It's in the book

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so a very tragic thing that happened my daughter died from an overdose that he was on drugs

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itself. So I'm kind of medication and he was taken and he put 113 people in the hospital and I was

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one of them. So that was a severe setback going through that along with what I was already dealing with

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and that was one reason the company had to be sold. So we let's fast forward to 2006. Along

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about October I accepted a job my dad arranged to go over see a home big house on the ocean that

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hold in beach North Carolina. Four month long job it was over by Christmas and we had to finish it up

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to get paid to less 10% after Christmas on the New Year so I sent the guys back down to the

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coast to do their job and bring a check back for the retainer and they did and this was January the

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8th of 2007. They called me and said we have we finished the job we got you a check and we want to

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celebrate can you take us fishing today. I said we're sure I guess my wife was out of town with her

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with the rest of the kids it was just Christian or not and so they came in got their checks,

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brought mine or my dad's actually and they they went to the bank and came back about two o'clock

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and said let's go and so I followed them to their house picked them up at 230 and the way we went

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to the river fishing and this is how it all started you know from the reason I went through this

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is because it's important it's one of the most important things in the world for anybody to know

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about this phenomenon of 17 years nearly of research that I've been doing it was it came because

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I was in the worst suffering way I was at the bottom ready to give up on life and I was crying out

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to whoever's up there you know help me why I'm 45 46 years old and I have to to get free lunches

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at school now for my children and just moving out of a million dollar home with a pool in the back

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my kids have lived you know with that standard for most of their life so it was a big thing and I

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was suffering bad from it crying out to the skies I left these guys fishing I left them fishing

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about three o'clock I walked away and I'm just never did pull out of pole

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there's my son and three other guys were sitting on the bank of the cake for a river a little small river about 70 years

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while and I said I'll see you later and I walked away up about quarter mile to the field to where

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we came across this corn field it turned off the paper road drove right through the middle of this

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field on a little two road that road to to the back side and to the tree line and when you get to

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the trees you go downhill a hundred feet to the river and when you before you run into the river

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you make a right in parallel to river another eighth of a mile to a cul-de-sac so it's a quarter mile

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walk out of that cul-de-sac up to the hill when I got near the top of that hill I noticed what I

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thought was the sun setting it's about five ten after five five fifteen in the evening in January

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so it gets dark you know about five thirty the sun sets and I'm probably

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fifty feet from the top of that hill so I'm looking up at the gate the gate is up at the top

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of the hill just but you can't see the field because it's elevated right and the higher I got up the

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the wider my field of vision became so I'm looking down a road that has trees straight up on

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either side of me really close so I have narrow field of vision so the closer I got to the top

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I saw what I thought was the setting sun and so I looked down to take a few more steps because I'm

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walking through mud and bushes and it's dark almost dark where I'm at now and four or five more

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steps up that hill and that's when the shot came I began to see a second one instead of this

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what I thought was the sun the top edge of it when I made a few more steps up I could see the

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top edge of two suns and I knew right then that this wasn't anything from that we had

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and the reason I knew that instantly is because I'm commercial rated pilot and I have

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have studied it all my life and love it and I can name every airplane from World War II to today

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pretty much and so shot came real quick I am I'm afraid what I'm looking at so I dropped

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to my knees using the hill to hide me from these objects thought I was hiding and so I sat there and

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I kind of crawled out of the road to the ditch because the weeds were real tall in the ditch

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and so I'm buried myself in these weeds and I start crawling the inching up the hill to where

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I could see and I peek my head up and they're still there and I don't know how long I was there

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standing or sitting kneeling in these weeds on my knees you know using these this waste

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tile grass and and what we call reeds or cane which is down near water wet areas right and I begin

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to ponder everything I'm looking at and my son he's in these guys behind me fishing I thought maybe

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I should get back down to where they are so I turned my body to point down hill and I'm still

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hiding I thought you know I've got this hill up above me I could raise up and I could see them

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I'd lower down and I couldn't see them so the minute I decided to run when I made that decision

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I was thinking about it but when I turned my body to actually run I looked back one more time when

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I stood up to see if they were there and when I did that a third one same thing same size 40 foot 50

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foot round blood red to orange balls of fire just what we saw on the water last night that one of

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those looked like it come up out of the water that she found yeah right and so the next thing I remember

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is walking up to the fire trotten up they couldn't see me because they're standing around the fire

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and it's burnt down to a little campfire now and we had a big blazing fire there when I left

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and they were just standing there and and I could see them from the fire glowing on them I

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didn't have a flashlight so they didn't know I was coming until I got right up on them and I said hey

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you won't believe what I just saw at the top of the hill and they looked at me and said where have you

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been I said what do you mean where have I been I was just up at the top of the hill just 20 minutes

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ago and they said no you've been going on night and so I couldn't ponder I couldn't imagine

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what they were saying it just did not connect with me I argued the fact no I've been going 20

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minutes there's no we've been looking you all night and I realized Chris Juneau was missing

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and so I kind of freaked out worried about him because I knew the direction they pointed he went

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in the back of the cul-de-sac along the bank of the cave of River which is a real rugged and

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ballies and big trees and it's just a place you can get lost really easy and he was in there

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looking for me so I took off immediately and ran to the back of that cul-de-sac shouting for him

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still not understanding that I've been going but 20 minutes right I'm to me that's what had just

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passed and when I found him he was he was in shock he was laying on his stomach and had backed up

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under the undergrowth in the back of that cul-de-sac wouldn't answer me until I almost stepped on him

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I'm trying to get into woods to look for no flashlight and what had happened with Chris Juneau

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was when about an hour after I was gone he realized that I should have been back by now it's dark

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so he started bugging the guys we need to find my dad where's he at so they got in the truck and

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drove looking for me left one guy at the fire and two guys in my truck drove up and down

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crossed the field out on the highway they went everywhere looking for me Chris Juneau went on

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foot into the cul-de-sac because I actually walked in there for a little while before I went up to

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the field and he had what he saw what he said he saw was he could see all the way down the road

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the path from the back of that cul-de-sac to where it turned and went up the hill so he had a good

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probably a quarter mile view of that road and the trees grow over the road so it's like a tunnel

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you know you come through a real thick stuff and while he was looking me he saw a red ball of light

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like an orb he described two red balls of light cross the road way up about a you know a little less

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in a quarter mile they went in on the river side so he ran back to the fire which is toward the

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orbs right he had to run back towards them and they were sitting on the bank so the red parallels

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the river and they're part of the way ahead of him on the right right on the bank so he runs up

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there and he tells them what he saw and they were like don't kid around you know you know don't

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what are you doing junior they took it as a joke right this grown man saying you mess him with

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his junior don't mess with it so he runs back to the back of the cul-de-sac again looking for me

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and he sees the same two balls of light come out of the river side now back out in the road and

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here they come to towards him so he began to back hide he tried to hide so he backs himself up

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under this rub so around the field if you're familiar with in our area and even here the edges of

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any field is really thick under growth you got all this thick stuff once you get into forest it

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opens up right so he's trying to hide under this thick stuff and what he described when I was walking

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him back to the fire was that these two balls of light came all the way to him the closer we got

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the more we got afraid then he started hiding and they got about 15-20 feet from him and there were

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two little beans about three feet tall it had red glowing eyes so they looked like individual

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orbs when you saw them but when they were closer to two little eyes about this big and um

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he couldn't shout he couldn't scream he was paralyzed the whole time he was laying there

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just afraid and so I took him back to the fire and funny thing was these guys were freaked out now

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they were really freaked because what I was talking about I'd seen it at the top of the hill

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what Chris Jünger is talking about now it got him even more distressed suddenly one of the guys

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shouts look and we all look up to the heavens and it looked like eight or nine stars or orbs like

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you saw last night these big they were white that they were growing huge and white and they just went

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around in circles and like they were chasing one another and they'd go out and they come back

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together and then three of them landed in front of us about 75 yards away across the river

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and that's when pandemonium sat in we ran left the poles in the water coolers everything they had

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we just left it jumped in my truck and took off out of there and when we got back to the top

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of the hill where I was looking you know I was hiding well the same three orbs are sitting there

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two of them are in the same spot but the third one that appeared and came down is now on the road

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in front of us it's about 150 yards away between us and the highway and we couldn't drive forward

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we didn't want to go back because we just left three on the river bank and so you can imagine

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the fear that was in in my truck my son he was in bad shape these three guys were freaked out bad

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but the weird thing Danny was I wasn't afraid anymore I lost all my tears somehow I was curious

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I wanted to get out and walk up to it but they won't have any part of that and that was one

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weird thing I couldn't figure out is it took my fear away I was afraid when I first went out

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and saw it and to run down the hill but as it appeared again I was mesmerized I wasn't afraid but

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they were terrified there was everything happening from crying to this is the last time I see my

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family please give me home they started fighting who was going to go home first it's all in the book

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but that's how it all started in 2007 so after this experience and you guys started driving the truck home

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there was there anything else that happened after you got home how far away did you live from the river

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hell on the road drive was it okay um that was only the beginning when we got to the field now we're

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sitting up in my truck five of us with this object sitting in the road and halfway to the road

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and two up over the road and suddenly we heard three gunshots we don't know who was shooting

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move on and everybody investigated that they went around in neighborhoods looking for witnesses and

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they found eight different witnesses how popular my from NASA found and and interviewed eight

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different people that saw it that night they were sitting on the porch when they flew over or whatever

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so um after the gunshots these these uh object in the road it just it's not setting on the road

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it's hovering five feet off the road it's about 40 to 50 foot long it looks like an egg or it

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looks like if you took a round ball or let's say a raindrop and you set it on the ground and it

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just kind of flattens out kind of eggshake it's the orbs around in the sky but when it's sitting on

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the ground it looks like a football and it just pivots it don't turn it don't lean it just pivot

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straight at us and here it comes down the road to us so that's right over our truck about

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50 feet above the truck I could have shot it with a slingshot through the sunroof of my truck when

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it went over and it pivots again to the north and it blasts off like a gun shot at poop I took I took

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off couldn't go fast enough for these guys they were screaming yelling um halfway

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down that road to the to the first house we had to stop two and a half miles away halfway in

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there is this curve this really sharp curve dead man's curve I grew up that curve everybody in our

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community knew about that curve and it was so sharp if you try to go around it more than 35

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the car just bound up you could fill it on the edge of losing control and um

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the crazy thing is is in 2000 and shoot 1981 I was married to a different lady that died she

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died in that curve and I found her of all the weird things I was at home I was at the coast and I

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came home and drove up on her after she'd turned the car over and ran killed her right there

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so this uh orb huge thing was hovering right everywhere she got killed and we had to drive up

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under it and I tried to get out I wanted to get out and look at it and they won't have

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enough part of it so we had to move on but what it did really and I brought this up

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is what it did it spoke to me in a way that I understood and these images it went right in my head

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and I relived the whole thing that happened that night in 82 and it said don't worry anymore this is

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not your fault because I had thought it was my fault and I should have been there

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but I wasn't I was out of town hunting that day with my father and so I'd carried that for all

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those years this feeling of guilt and it was removed that night right away and so I had to put that

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in there because it's really important to understand the phenomenon you don't like to talk about

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this but if people are going to understand it how it reacts it reacts based on emotion

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suffering thousands of people reach out to me about this and they'll all say the same thing

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when they started seeing it they lost the family member they lost their husband their wife the child

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pretty severe suffering brings them and this is something everybody that studies this is aware

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so um we left there never stopped never stopped we were down to about 10 miles an hour I was trying

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to hit the break they were pounding on my seat go and so I hit the gas ended up having to go four

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miles further and take the further sky home first because they were fighting who got to go home

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dropped him off came back and dropped the other two guys off and then on a way home we went

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the long way because we didn't want to go back under that same curb where that orb was set and my

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son didn't want any part of it so anyhow we get to the house Chris Jr. is running through the

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house locking every door turning every light on inside outside and he would he would go in the

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bathroom even when when does he turn the light on and locked the door it was at a parade I was at

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my study trying to find anything on TV we just knew we were being invaded the whole world you know

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that's what we thought and I couldn't find anything it was just a normal night you know and it

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was the weirdest thing we couldn't compute what had just happened and nothing's going on on

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television and so when Chris gets all his lights locked and doors locked and lights on the whole

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house he runs back to where I'm at and suddenly the dogs start going crazy my dad lived next door

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he had 15 hound dogs in a kennel he'd raised them all his life he'd put upwards of 100 dogs at one

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time 104 so he's always raised dogs right so I know there sounds I know the different barks

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and suddenly this whole pinful of dogs is barking in a in a fearful way they were scared and I

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knew it the way they were sounding anybody would have detected they didn't know what they were

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seeing but they were they were all going you know loud mouths hound dogs really are very loud

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and so we had this Chesapeake Bay Retriever 110 pound dogs standing on the back door steps

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she's just sitting there and she was growling and she was barking at the same time

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so I walked up to the back door and could see her through the door and Chris Jr. has got me

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about a shirt please dad don't go out there don't go like son somebody's breaking into the

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ad shop because his garage is next to the kennels playing view of the kennels so all the dogs could

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see the garage and I had a lot of stuff in that garage I still do my mom's house

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and all our tools and welders and boats and fishing gear we just I just knew somebody was stealing

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something right and the dogs could see it and so I talked junior in to walking quietly with me

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with no flashlight using our Chesapeake to stay in front of us and keep us safe I just wanted to walk

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over and see if I could see who's getting in that shop try to scare them away and

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when I opened that door Rosie took off straight toward the kennel where the dogs were

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and she ran out about 40 yards and looked back and then took on off so Chris and I snuck our way

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up to the dog kennel and when we got there the weird thing was all the dogs were looking behind

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the pen and the woods not toward the garage they were all barking everyone up there's a pretty

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long kennel we could put a whole lot of dogs in there and it was you know just imagine a 50 foot

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long kennel with dogs in each pen and they're all facing the back and Rosie the Chesapeake is pointing

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she's she's frozen she's looking into the woods same direction as the other dogs

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and Chris and I standing there I said just really weird maybe it's a bear or something has snuck in here

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and dogs are usually afraid of a bear they'll make they'll sound different and so I said

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junior I'm going to send Rosie in to whoever's in there she'll run them out whatever it is dear or

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whatever I don't know but we made a plan we're going to send her in and then we were going to run

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back around to our property so it was two lots they were on my dad's property or only his lot right

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so we're going to go back to ours and see if she pushes something out across in front of us just

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see what it was so I send her in the woods she took off wide open park and so junior and I ran

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hard as we could down this path back to the backyard and I had to make a left and go to the back

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of the property another 60 yards I guess run so I had to run fast to stay in front of whatever's

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coming out of there and what I didn't know was this Chris had me by the back of the shirt the

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whole time he didn't want to turn me loose when I made that left turn to go to the back he pulled

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away from me I thought he just turned to loose I actually slipped a little bit it was frost on

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the ground and I didn't know it but he had oh he could stand he ran back to the house open the

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back door and went in lock the door I didn't know that I thought he was still behind me running

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so I ran all the way to the back and I knew where there was a big oak tree back there I could

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run up to and stop myself as you had to do this quick his dogs and usually something in front of

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a dog will be way ahead of them so I knew I had minutes to to see what was in there so I run

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up to this stop and to this tree in a full run stop myself and I'm trying to catch my breath I'm

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panting a pant but I'm trying to be quiet right because I didn't want to scare whatever's

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coming toward me I could hear the dog coming it wouldn't bar it's probably 20 yards in the woods

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coming in my direction so the minute I hit that tree I turned around to see if junior was coming

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behind me and junior went there but what was there for me to you away probably four foot I could

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have leaned over and touched it with my hand a good thing I didn't somebody from NASA told me

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what it killed you if it did could have the energy from it so there was a bee standing there just

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like junior described it was that he saw in the river it was three three and a half feet tall

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it looked like a child not like a gray alien you would think about people talk about it was a

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little glowing color of the moon soft glow three and a half foot four-year-old look like a four-year-old

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child head and face was a little different definitely won't human eyes were glowing red they

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look mechanical when you look at them they look like the little markers on a transfer truck the

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side marker you see these little round lights along the side they were about that's an inch and a half

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it had just triangle on its chest glowing this thing was glowing but it had a dark section it won't

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glow it was in shape of a triangle and I knew I was in trouble the minute I saw it now it all

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happens so quick I ran against that tree and I stopped myself and I looked back and I'm like

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oh my god what do I do so I got closer to the tree I didn't want to get closer that way to turn

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around so I backed my back against the tree and I'm facing this thing and I said I surrender I mean

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you know harm I'm sorry you know I'm not here to I was just a surrendered to it I just knew I was dead

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and I heard this boy say you don't understand we're not here to hurt you we're here to help you

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about that time Rosie comes out of the woods she's still coming she's still tracking whatever it is

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and it just vanished right in front of me just disappeared uh instead of telling

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Christian or what had just happened I walked back up into the house and he standing in the back

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door looking for me and I was scared to tell him anymore because he was in shock right and um

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let me end I was a smoker back then I had to have a cigarette I just had to have one I was just

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basically hyperventilating the head smoke so I walked into my study I have a couch with a

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sunroom had windows all the way around and my couch was backed up to these windows so I put my knees

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on the couch and I reached over the back I raised I started to raise the blind and Juno's freaking out

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don't open the blinddad don't don't please don't and when I raised it up about half way I was going

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to open the window and smoke and blow it out the window right but he had all the lights on around

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the house and there were this thing this being a tall one I don't um I drew it I painted it but it's not

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my wife thinks it's too scary so she hid my painting away right did she really yeah so it's a

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poor foot tall painting and she saw the same thing is this Gary Emily there's a conversation piece in

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house back in the day for sure she turned it around and hid it somewhere I don't know where it is

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now it's in her in the pod somewhere in storage she won't let me bring it out but anyhow that's what I

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saw coming about 20 yards outside that when I remember all the all the floodlights were on so I

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could see it perfectly and how tall would you say it was seven foot it freaked me out so bad that I

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shut the shutter down without telling Chris Jr anything I'm trying to protect him as a dad

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right so I pulled the blind down grabbed him by the hand ran out the front door jumped in my truck

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and we drove about five miles away to a big hay field setting the very middle of the hay field

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until daylight the next morning afraid that was the beginning and the end of January the eighth of

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the seventh believe it or not he didn't leave out details it's a big story but they're all in the book

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yeah so that seven foot being what would you how did that thing look was there any details you could see

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was it was it looked like it was a real biological thing you could touch it was a tall

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two-legged two-armed humanoid figure that looked more tan looking than gray but it's similar to

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these gray aliens that you hear people talk about you always said it had human eyes yeah this

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huge it had human eyes sort of yeah bigger but they look more human looking but it was

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as alien with the pupil and like an iris or was it just all one it wasn't all all one color okay but

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the way it looked at me and yeah it was it was a scary thing so I haven't seen those since

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but it was there it was on my property and usually I'm heard stories that they kind of run together

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these taller guys and these small ones but I don't know I have no clue so out of all the people

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that were there with you that night other than your son has anyone else corroborated any of that

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yeah they do they told their story we had the guys that were there with you yeah they went

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on the discovery channel and told the story just like we did and they reported to move on I have

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all their interviews from move on and they all cooperated every bit of it and what happened

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with them was the same thing with me they had children my children's age or older

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and or younger all three of them married with children and they were just good old country

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boys that worked for my dad as subcontractors with families and they all went to school with my kids

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the most of them either elementary or middle school or high school and so when the discovery

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channel made their show in 2008 they made a circus out of us they made me look like a like I was

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crazy in a liar and they tried to discredit all of us when they told us different they were going

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they were going to vindicate us that's why we all agreed because we were catching so much

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slack from the community it became worse because of that documentary my children were at school

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and they would get made fun of and she'd come home crying from teachers and the kids in school

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making fun of there what was going on right so that was that shut them up to never want to talk

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about it ever again that's why you don't hear much from them so after after this happened did you

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tell anybody else did you tell your family immediately or did you keep it to yourself

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yeah I told everybody I thought it was the most wonderful thing on planet earth you know this

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we're not alone you know we've always been told that there's nothing that exists even people say

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God doesn't exist so it's all fate you know it's only us and we were created by evolution just

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time you know enough time anything can create itself that's what they say so I just experienced

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something that what I didn't say was the next day when we left the hate building came home

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I came home and was worried about my medication because I'd take medicine every day and if I missed

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it I would get worse couldn't miss one day it just had to stay regular and I didn't feel sick the

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next morning and I didn't take any medication just for the Crohn's or Crohn's and I haven't had a

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symptom since then period went away that night and I was so sick that she can tell you I was I was

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in the bathroom 20 times a day 25 at the worst when it was at the worst point that's what Crohn's

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does to you very painful you know it's an intestinal disease right right right so I told the world

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you know this is what happened suddenly I became a lamp and stop and I was playing with demons you

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play them with the devil himself and for long the churches were coming I sprinkling holy water on my

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kids on my house on my property on me really yeah like when you would go to church well I wasn't going

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to church then because I was told if you you can't come if you ever talk about this again so I'm

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like I'm going to talk about it and so I never went back and how did word get spread like

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throughout like Emily said you saw the people at school were like cracking jokes how did how did

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everyone find out about it was well it's a small community and you know dad was born and raised

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our generations of our family are from that area and so the people that are from there know

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each other very well and dad and my mom also were prominent business people in town so everyone knew

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who we were anyway and so when one person found out about this oh Chris Blitz was crazy the whole

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community finds out and then you go to the grocery store and people you know recognize you and

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no things and people at school and then the documentary came out a year later and it was impossible

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to keep it hidden from everybody it it it sent the first five years I call five years of darkness

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and that was that was the first year it happened the second year after the discovery channel did

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their thing from the second year on it just got worse I mean it got so bad that I didn't

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want to ever talk about it again and I actually went outside and shouted to the heavens I'm done

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with you you know why do you do this to me why is my children affected now you came in and you

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healed me and now I've got this problem right and it's important to note that through these five

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years of you know we call darkness not because of the phenomenon because in those five years we

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were having continued experiences together and separately like I was 10 years old when this

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happened in 2007 and throughout all of those years we were seeing things and then going and being

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ridiculed publicly and you know in different circles while we were still having the experiences so

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there was a lot of like cognitive dissonance there with like oh we're actually seeing it but nobody

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believes us and it's still happening so this first experience sort of unlocked the whole bag of

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other experiences on everybody absolutely on all of us yeah even you last night yeah

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so what other types of experiences are we talking about well go ahead you can talk I mean

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anything you can think of really I've seen things we've seen things like jump off of the table

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without being touched like moving things moving on their own seeing shadow figures being touched

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anything like you would think it was a haunted house growing up but that's you know part of how we

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explained that this is all spiritual in nature is because it can really manifest in any way that it

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wants to and so the phenomenon is not limited to what people think of as aliens or UFOs where we were

[0:45:54 - 0:46:02] ▶

obviously seeing orbs every night as well we were seeing things in the home that you would think of

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as like ghostly maybe yeah but it was all the same stuff when did the orbs the orbs sightings

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start immediately after never quit from 2007 that night it just continued to so from then on you

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just started noticing things in the sky I was in my face it was yeah I mean I write about in the

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book so many stories that we didn't write about I wrote 140,000 words for this book we published

[0:46:30 - 0:46:38] ▶

85 or 90,000 that's including introduction so there's a lot that we didn't include but um

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daddy would wake us kids up because mom didn't really like you know the the conflict with the

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phenomenon so she didn't really encourage the experiences but dad would secretly wake me in my

[0:46:51 - 0:46:58] ▶

two other brothers uh Ryan and Jeremy up at like whatever time of night and we would go out on

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school nights at 2 a.m. 3.m. and just look at orbs in the yard right in our face and then we would

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go to bed and go to school the next morning like nothing happened. Some of these orbs would be

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50 feet around and on the yards away yeah huge bigger biggest trees and flying some of them through

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the trees and setting out there for hours we had one blue orb it just stayed there for everybody

[0:47:24 - 0:47:31] ▶

walked by the door and we looked through the wind and see it going through the trees and stuff

[0:47:31 - 0:47:35] ▶

this now do these orbs make any sounds sometimes they do sometimes they do not all of them but

[0:47:35 - 0:47:44] ▶

if they're close enough you can hear them what what how would you describe the sound

[0:47:44 - 0:47:49] ▶

like a ringing like a buzzing kind of energetic electrical electrical sizzling if you heard

[0:47:50 - 0:47:59] ▶

you ever took a a taking a light switch and when you go to turn it on an old switch especially

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you hear a crackle sometimes when you go from yeah on to off that's a lot of what it sounds like

[0:48:05 - 0:48:11] ▶

a crackling sizzling sound any there is there any other is there a smell no smell no smell no smell and

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what about the colors the color what is the color spectrum of them what is the range of colors that

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you see nearly all of them all of them can change colors I don't think there's a you hear people

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say there's a red one and it's mean and there's a yellow one and there's an orange one and there's

[0:48:35 - 0:48:39] ▶

these green ones will kill you I've heard so many people talk about that but it's it's from my

[0:48:39 - 0:48:46] ▶

experience they're all the same they just how they decide to appear in color but they usually will

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start out white and shift from white to red so everything in between yellow orange blood red

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back to white yellow orange in that spectrum occasionally they're blue they'll they'll they'll

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go from red to white to blue just bluish white light not like an American flag thing but you

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know they're pulsed they're shifting red you see you see the red in with the blue

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several videos of blue ones and what is this photo right here we're looking at that far if you

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look at Christopher that's christ jr if you look at his left shoulder behind him where the woods are

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that's where I had the encounter with the three foot b oh really yep and that's where they landed

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the orbs landed in my yard you can see the circle here is two years old the grass still not growing

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they killed the grass it's set for a little doughnut in the middle and the streaks you see behind him

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or where two other orbs came from different directions and scooted along the ground burning the

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grass until they set down and created their circles that are with three of those circles in the yard

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and move on tested that yep as well what it can explain what move on is move on is the

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mutual UFO network that's who you call if you have a sighting and you want to report it you

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call those guys and we're going to their website and you can put your sighting and that's what

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what so it's basically it's just people scattered around the country that are interested in the

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topic and they just donate their time to right research it and collaborate it's a pretty big

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outfit they have you know they have board members full-time people there but it's basically a

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volunteer the investigators are mostly volunteers there so but yeah they they tested that soil

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and the funny thing is the tree back in that back corner there's a big oak tree in the woods

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where I run up to it and stood there with this being from me and the tree just died limbs fell big

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huge tree it's just crumbled down just like the top of that burning tree remember that or that

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orbs where that orb landed there is 12 feet from the tree I'll show you right here this is the

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well here's a better photo so when it come over the tree one of those or the one that had

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the full circle the other two had tracks leading up to where they landed right but the other one

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Christina was standing at actually we believe came over the top of that tree and he radiated it

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because you can see 40 feet of the tree is missing it's broke right off looks like it's burnt

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off at the top it wasn't burnt it just broke and fell it died really tree died and then

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caught fire so the so the first time you noticed this you you just saw the tree in your yard burning

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yeah we have a video yeah it was oh there's a video yeah do we have that yeah we can find it

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okay yeah but mom tried to put the fire out three times and it came back

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there you go top one here you go it lit itself on fire three times at nine o'clock it caught fire

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just spontaneous no here you can bust it in our backyard oh wow it hit the full screen button on

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the bottom right yeah it's just so weird there's Emily coming home

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it had been thundered a lot and a lot of time I don't even think it rained today

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you see the grass is wet where the head lights are standing out here looking

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ran as fast as we couldn't the backyard tree just spontaneously sleeping about it that's my brother Ryan

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yeah burning from the inside out how is it burning from the inside out I don't know but here's the

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weird thing Dan we don't know this is when I quit smoking

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Emberin 07 I had to smoke to blow out the window right this is 2013 and I was I walked

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I paused my television bon and I or mother and I were sitting watching TV in our study I said

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I paused the TV I said I'm gonna smoke and so she got up to go to the kitchen I went out the

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back door full glass door and I'm standing on the patio split up a cigarette and I could see this

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tree is 75 yards from the house back in the back of the property in the middle of nowhere and I saw

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sparks come from the ground and go out they look like the little bottle rocket she's shoot off

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the little tiny ones red sparkles that's where it looked like they came out and they went

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weird looking so my wife is coming back down the hall and she could see through the back door see me

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on the patio but she could see all the way to that tree and she opened the door and said what's

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going on with that tree I said I don't know I see it too and suddenly it just erupted like

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somebody just poured gas on it poof it just erupted into flames it was dead now look this is

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after the fire it came back how long after the fire is this that's the very next summer

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the fire was in like October this was the next like spring summer spring yeah wow it had been

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completely dead that year before 2012 April of 2012 and we'll talk about the lady here

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send my book prominently about the lady and Easter Saturday night Easter the night before Easter of

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2012 I was so distraught because of the way my kids were being traded I'm a big guy you know

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I got to the point where I didn't care you can laugh at me you can call me crazy you can do what

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you want I don't care you just won't be my friend anymore I don't need need you in my life that's

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kind of what I thought about everybody that I grew up with cousins just family and friends so I

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washed my hands with them but now it's affecting my children you're extremely bad it made fun of

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and all so I was desperate to prove to the world that I had actually experienced something that I

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want crazy because they'd labeled me that the whole community or you're playing with the devil one

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of the two and I knew different I knew I was praying to God and these balls of fire came I knew they

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took my crons away I knew it wasn't the devil if it was what a big trick why does the devil answer

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prayer if it does I don't want to be praying right so I had given up that night and I walked

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outside and I said look I've been trying to film you you're in my house you're around my family

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everybody here sees your presence these orbs this is intelligent they're intelligent beings these

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orbs are beings they're individual beings sometimes more than one and so I shouted to the heavens

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I'm done you won't let me film you you won't let me share you with my mom and dad let's next door

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the minute they come out it never shows when they walk back in the door boom it's right back in

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our family space so it was like it was it was so real to us as a group of six people but it wasn't

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not before the first five years it was um but I did with other people you know some scientists got

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seed or very selective yeah very selective but it was almost impossible to introduce anybody to it

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and so I went outside that night and I shouted to the sky I'm done with you you have ruined my

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life thank you for healing me I'm not sick anymore but my life is in worst shape now than it ever

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has been I'm a big guy but my kids I can't take them coming home crying and and three boys 15 16 8

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17 years old trying to date girls and now they're withdrawn because of all this and so I'm talking

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to the heavens to the sky just like this I'm done with you I'll never speak of you again don't come

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around me don't come in my house I'm done with you and that's what I did and I walked in and I went

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to bed my kids were there because of Easter they always had friends come over so the house was full

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of children and they were in the front part of the house playing video games and I'm in the back

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alone my wife's sleeping with her because the boys had all these boys I've run mom standing guard

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right so she's she I'm totally by myself so I'm I'm asleep three o'clock in the morning three o'clock

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on the dot I heard this boy say a rise and a manly voice I mean it sounded like thunder it was so

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loud and it worked me up from a dead sleep till I jumped up out of bed and to a sitting position

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and I looked around the room panic I said I heard that who's in here if it had been my wife it

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wouldn't have startled me but because it was a deep thunderous manly voice it scared me to death

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and I looked straight at my clock had old desktop clock back then everybody had a alarm clock right

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used one so now we use the cell phone yeah I looked and said 3 a.m. and I could see movement in my room

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and it looked like these shadowy figures that we've been used to seeing they were at the bed put

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in my bed these shadowy figures and what they did I don't know they put me in some sort of

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translight thing to where I stood I got out of bed I was in just my underwear I put on full of

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jeans pants shirt shoes and I walked right out the back door following them and we went back out to

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the dog kennel to where everything had happened before right just right up to the dog kennel

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and just before we got to the kennel one of these beans stopped and turned and

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handed me this object with two hands just like this handed it to me and I reached out and I took

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it said this is yours you must keep so when I grabbed it it felt like a hedgehog prickly

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what hurt but it was prickly and it felt like it was a living like a dog but it had no head or

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no legs I could see it but it scared me really bad to hit my hands so I dropped it on the ground

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this voice said no you must keep that this is yours you must keep so I reached down to pick it up

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and when I did when I stood up there were gone there was no more beans in front of me

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and I thought what am I going to do with this thing and I'm juggling it and I think and quick

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and so I opened the dog kennel and I set it in the kennel and closed the door thinking you'll be

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safe there I don't know what it is this is all happened so quick and the minute I closed that door

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I stood up and this blast of wind it was so strong this wind it was a mighty wind but it was

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localized it wasn't the trees around me it wasn't the forest it was a blast of air and a

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circle in front of me that the tree this oak tree in front of me just disappeared into a black hole

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and out of that hole came this wind which pushed me backwards really quick like so fast it called

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me off balance and I fell all the way to my back flattened the leaves and as I'm falling

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I could see what looked like a 1500 pound bull a cow come out of that hole ran right over top of me

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and I could see through it because he just stars right up through it but I could see this bull

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and so I land on my back and I rolled on my stomach and when I roll and I'm trying to get up

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right now I'm going to run it happens within seconds I hit my back I rolled on my stomach I'm

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facing another way so I'm trying to get my knees into my feet to run nowhere this thing went

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and immediately the cow wasn't there it was a woman beautiful beyond measure she was glowing

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this bluish white color and she had this white dress on that sparkled when it was flowing

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dress just moved and it looked like an overroman dress went all way to her feet and and

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sleeps out to her hands here in a collar that was a painting over right there that was done painted

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this no the man standing to me as a famous artist from New York dug all and dug painted that just

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you know what I described to him you can see the bull through the right there and it was actually

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a triangle on her chest he put it on there and it pretty crazy that paint is big but

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her face is different but that's similar to what was in front of me three foot three foot

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floating in front of you three foot off the ground but six foot away from six foot away

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and the size of her was it like the normal size of a human right she was smaller smaller see through

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because you're not seeing no she was solidly solid or yeah but her mouth wasn't moving but I could

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hear a plaintiff day talking to me but she was hovering barefooted just like that three feet

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off the ground and she looks at me I'm just in this biggest shock words can't describe how

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the power I felt from this wind and this bull run me over in the fear that set in

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flight I had to run you know I had this instant fear hit me but now I'm looking at this woman

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so that whole fear thing turned into oh my god what is this is an angel what am I looking at

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yeah she leans over and she looks at me and she says this is your burden she said first she said

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you know why I'm here and I knew why she was there because I'd struggled internally for five years

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these orbs coming it talks telepathically I hear them and we proved this on the history channel

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live with the Andy right they knew that my brain was communicating with the orbs even though I wasn't

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moving we did this on camera and neuroscientists measuring my brain waves they could tell

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so I'd had for all these years this overwhelming desire to tell the world and the more I told it

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the worse it got the worse ridicule and it spilled over to my children so that's why I was ready

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quit but she said this is your burden you got a bear and she said several things

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and this is I've been telling this for a long time about the times we're in now

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we're in some pretty weird times right but she told me about that and I put it out there in 2012

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this happened Easter 2012 she said there's going to be trouble coming and we're going to wake

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to people alive and we're going to let you do it we're going to use you we want to help you

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introduce us to the world that's what she said and she told me about an alignment she said

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there's going to be she said when the red she said when the star of regulus when the star of

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regulus arises on the horizon in the gaze of the spinks at that time there will be a shift in the

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knowledge of humanity that's what she said I didn't know what it meant I had no clue if this star

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would align on the star of a regulus regulus a star called regulus when it aligns on the gaze of

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the spinks before daylight and that star comes up and it's right it's just about the horizon like

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the orbs last night right on the ground in view of the spinks there'll be a shift in the knowledge

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there'll be a new knowledge for humanity so I told that also saw visions of trouble that would

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happen beforehand which is we've been having weird troubles right so I'm not a prophet not

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I want to claim to be but I did say this in 2012 and I've said it for the last what 11 years

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and it's all happening so the amazing thing is Danny is I went from totally

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quitting and announcing it to the heavens I'm never going to do this again to a new renewed energy

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of now what am I going to do if I tell this about the lady they're going to come lock me up

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they're going to think I'm crazy for sure so I didn't say anything for a while

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and two weeks later a week later I had vowed not to ever speak about it again one week later I

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get a call from Mooplin saying we want you to talk in Asheville North Carolina which is six hours

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away and I readily accepted yeah I want to talk so I was a different attitude towards it and that's

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why I met Diana Pazoka two weeks after the lady came and I started talking about the lady in that

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conference and the audience began to heckle me they made fun they didn't want to hear about the lady

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they wanted to hear about the the river event so it was a birch maddy thing and not that bonded

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Diana and I for all these years to where that's how we became to know one another

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but the crazy thing is is the immediately when she left that's when I begin to document everything

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I could get pictures I could take you out and share it with you only after she came only after the lady came

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yep what do you think the bull symbolized I don't know but I know this it got the attention

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of Diana and the Vatican and CIA, NASA and everybody, DOD, even the Ministry of Defense in Britain,

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Australia, all these people they wanted to know about the lady immediately let me tell you in fact

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I put it in writing to two generals at the Pentagon what she told me I was asked to do that

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I have a whole bunch of questions in my head right now but I want to try to figure out how to

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pick this apart a little bit first of all Steve do you remember when we were talking to Randall the

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other day we were going through the different ages in the great year yeah what age are we in now

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as far as like the constellations that's the first thing I thought about it is like the age of the

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bull and the lion were in Aquarius right right oh yeah we were singing the age of Aquarius and

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what's the next one is there a way you can pull up like a diagram that circular diagram he was showing

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us well let me tell you what she told me she said that there was a shift in the powers of the heavens

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and that she had been away the feminine energy was about to come back and it won't stop in it

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and that there would be a shift and that that shift would be into Aquarius and that the

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divine feminine would come back as the energy that would create a thousand years of peace

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that's what she told me it would be trouble first but in time that peace would come to this world

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all right so it goes Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius

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Aquarius followed by Pisces okay so we get a long way to go before and Taurus again

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interesting but you know the lady in Egypt is depicted Hathor with bull horns or a bull next to her

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many countries the lady is always depicted as with a bull or either have bull horns with a

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solar disk or beside the bull so it goes hand in hand with her throughout many countries what

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did Diana say about the lady well did she have any speculation about who she was

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yeah they quickly referred me to the Fatima lady and the lady of Guadalupe the lady of Lord

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France and Fatima and there's several others there's one in Egypt that I don't know the name

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can you put the lady of Guadalupe now the Sphinx there's been people that have

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speculated this Sphinx was originally a lion yeah what's weird is regularists is in the Leo

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constellation is regular is in the Leo constellation comes up in the lands with that brightest star

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called regulars are images I think it's Leo pretty sure it's Leo okay this is the lady of

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Guadalupe so yeah that was the first time you saw the lady and when did she did she give you

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a specific time when things were going to change with humanity she's you know I've seen her more

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in Wanda and yes I didn't hear from her except at Easter of 2013 she came back

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okay yeah regulars it is a constant star it's the star of Leo the lion heart

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up and when she told me when that star aligns on the horizon before daylight

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and in the gaze of the Sphinx there would be a shift in the knowledge of humanity a new knowledge

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and that's what she told me but there would be trouble along the way first and they gave me the

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images of war I even wrote that I saw Israel bomb my ring and Syria and we're looking at it right

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now I put that in writing for years I'm not talking today I did it I've said this for a long time

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and it's it's coming it's happening let's hope it don't but just look in that way at what point

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did you start getting visited by people in government and people in NASA or CIA 2007

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eight 2008 so right after yeah well I didn't report the incident to October so it happened in

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January 2007 I come home telling this and my wife was so afraid the kids were scared

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they didn't know what was happening the church being in a pinnacle so holding this church I was

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addeacon in the pinnacle so church so you can imagine pinnacle so church is way different

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that's not the problem my or how problem my so they immediately related to demons so

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my wife is trying to keep the family under control and hush me up about it so I didn't talk about it

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for 10 months other than my kids the words would be in the yard at night two in the morning I'd

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wake them up and bring them outside to look your daddy's not crazy there they are right

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so my wife began to experience it I think in the well what time was it in 2007 when she

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got shoved in the kitchen it must have been in the fall it was a few months later she got shoved

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in the kitchen yeah yeah twice that had been praying you know that mom would have an experience

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so she would believe him and she was doing the dishes and no one was awake or around and some

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something shoved her into the sink and it scared her so bad she said don't ever pray for me again

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yeah shoved it twice but I don't blame her yeah so I didn't speak about it for the first 10

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months and it was October that I had cable finally we didn't have cable couldn't afford it had no

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TV other than local you know you get a few channels with a rabid here and so we got cable and I

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started researching the UFOs how do I tell somebody who do I talk to I've got to get this out of

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my head or I'm going to go crazy because my head hurt really bad every time I tried to think about

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the subject I would go into almost pass I did pass out very often it would it would hurt so bad I

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would pass out in front of everybody was it my brain had a lock on it and so it was October I've

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saw a move on add on the history channel about a stenton freedman this nuclear physicist was talking

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and I first time I've seen a show like that I thought he's pretty cool if this guy would tell it

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I'm going to tell it so I googled them and found their application to submit a report and I wrote

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it out two weeks went by I attempted to push that button I knew if I pushed that button I'm going

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to lose my wife that's what I thought I was under that much stress so I've two weeks I agonized

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finally I hit sand and I felt this relief but I didn't expect to hear anything back right so

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within a week I get this call within days a couple of days I get a call from move flying out of

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the California saying we want to come see you like right away and I'm like oh no you can't do

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that I just wanted to say it right so I told them no and they kept calling me and tall and calling

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and calling and come January of 08 or right around the first of January they wrote me again and I

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finally said I've got to tell this I can't hold it no longer so I said yeah you can come

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and it was February of 08 when the first person showed and that's when I told my wife was sitting

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there on the couch while the investigator was there and she looked over at him and she and I

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hadn't talked about this period only many kids she was always fussing at me don't get them out

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of the edge you know they got to go school and that's when she asked Steve the investigator if

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you ever seen any shadowy beings you know I've been seeing them and I got shoved in the kitchen

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and I said my prayer is working I've been praying you would experience this and she looked at me

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and pointed her fingers and don't you ever pray for me again like we all thought it was funny but

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that was the first time you ever heard her talk about shadowy figures yeah she wouldn't talk

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around me she would around them but she wouldn't me and she was trying to hide it you know but it

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just became within two weeks within two weeks of move on coming to my house in February they'd

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already talked me into doing a documentary with the Discovery Channel this will vindicate you

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the whole neighborhood and know you're you're not lying about it so they talked me into it and that

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was a bad mistake bad because it turned the opposite way I don't think they ever believed it would

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happen again I didn't think that because it don't normally happen so might see something that's it

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but it didn't stop it came back and did you ever see any of those three-foot child-like

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beings again yeah yeah sure did in fact there's a picture of them trying to find it I can't

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there seemed to find the photo but and you you mentioned the first time during the river experience

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when that first being explained to you he wasn't there to harm you he was only there to help you

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right was there any other communication any other times that you saw them yeah experience them

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yep two nights later this was on it was a Monday night when we had the experience on the river

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of Chris Junaer and the group Wednesday night now wife wouldn't come home to Friday right so we're

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staying arrested a week there just June or nine Wednesday night I'm struggling with Chris Junaer

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because he's in shock and he's had a really scary experience right and he was in a bad way

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and so Wednesday night it was about nine o'clock eight thirty or nine at night suddenly we're at home

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he and I watch and television just dad and son and these same dogs started barking again same way

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scary part so I rented the back door and could look out over the whole property out through the back

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full glass back door and there was a Christmas tree farm beside us a big one they had new trees

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where people would they would send them out you know cut all these trees down but it was a section

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of that Christmas tree farm that was overgrown you see the far back right corner on the woodlands

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our property line but on the other side of that excuse me it was this huge Christmas tree farm

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you can see it looks like a wall of trees yeah so the trees were so big that they grew together

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so there was no walking through the place there were 40 foot tall spruce pine trees but underneath

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you could get down on your knees and there was no weeds at all it was just these short little pine

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needles and it was a section three feet of height underneath all of them trees you could see for a

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long ways and so I just crossed the fence the lights were flashing pulsating in the Christmas

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trees the whole tree was lit up treat the farm and I knew what it was because we'd seen it Monday night

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on the river these white big white orbs flashing and I don't know what got into me but it was a change

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in my life at that moment because I had been a hunter I was raised with a rifle and a shotgun

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I shot my first deer five years old I was shot in the back at 10 years old had a near death

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experience nearly you know I was the luckiest guy in the world and when I was 10 years old a little

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whole let me just big bigger the orange shot in the back with a shotgun yes from me to you

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that's a whole nother story this car is still the size of like a big orange or a grapefruit

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yeah right straight line with my heart right there and if I pull up my shirt you can see lead

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right here through the skin yeah that was the first narrative and so I don't know why

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but I was angry I just seeing my son get upset again all over because now we got two nights

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later these lights in the backyard again and it's taken me two days to kind of calm him down

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and now he's freaked out bad oh my god he's just really freaked and so I just had this bit of rage

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coming me and I walked over to the gun cabinet and I grabbed a little holster 44 Magnum rifle

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little short saddle gun I used to bear hunt with I'm on record booning crocket record book for shooting

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660 pound black bear with Carolina so big it was a record at that time

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I'm still in the probability top five but um I took that gun and I said you come with me

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generally said no I'm not I'm not going out that door he said please don't leave me dead I said

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son I'm going to end this tonight that's what I thought I was just being a father I guess

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so I walked back to that back for a back right corner and I went through that little opening you see

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walked another 50 yards to the long that side and there was a fence there old hog fence that

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the trees had fallen over in one spot so it wasn't used anymore it was crunched down

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and I knew it there I didn't want to cross that fence until I got back there it's like a step

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over it so I stepped over that fence and the first 10 yards of that tree farm was nothing but

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a pine so there was a buffer area of pines and then there's the wall of Christmas trees

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sure wall I mean there no going through it you couldn't drive a car through or a bulldozer

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so I got them in these and I started under and I could see this orb is about 50 yards away

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we're not even that far 50 60 feet 70 feet maybe and it was putt setting I could see the bottom

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three feet of it that's all the view I had three feet of view under there so I crawled

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dragon necked under these trees until I got about 20 feet from that orb 20 maybe 30 feet

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and the electricity from it the buzz the static my whole body felt like needles the hair was

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standing up and every bump goose bump on me was just tingling and the energy was so strong I couldn't

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go any closer I just turned around and I backed away walked back out of that forest crawled out

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and I got to the pine trees where the fence was crunched I stood up and I went to step over that

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fence and the minute I went to step over that fence there were two of these bins just appear

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right in front of me one on I mean they're standing like three feet from me and just enough gap

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I could walk between them and immediately I felt this shame come over me shame that I had this

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rifle why I brought this to fight something that there ain't no fighting right so I took the gun

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and I tried to hide it behind me and what they put in my head was what changed me from that point on

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I never hunted again I don't harm bugs I have a away with animals now nobody understands I have

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50 a hundred ducks wild ducks who fly in and fly right up to me if you come out there they're going

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because they'll fly right up me from me feed them wild malleers and if anybody knows about

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malleered ducks they're one of the most skittish creatures in the world they fly it in a thousands of

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feet high at 80 miles an hour and you need duck calls and blinds and decoys in the water to get

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one to land why have whole flock some fly right in and eat like feed them but that wasn't like that

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before but these beings told me that they changed me they told me that um

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the way they put it in my head when I say told me they don't really talk they put images that you

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know it's just telepathic I guess you could say but it made me understand that the whole world is

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um it's a living is alive everything from the grass to every single animal bird tree all had a

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consciousness they even put images into me of the cells in the body like and within human body

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there there you don't tell your body what to do something outside of us is telling our body how

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to function the molecules the the um each cell that divides from one cell to the other has a

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conscience so um I'm just a part of that I can't get the words out I want to say um but it just

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changed me in such a way that I began to cry about everything I've cried for the last seven eight

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ten years I guess about everything when I see something get hurt it just kills me

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but it came from that experience with these beings on how they told me how everything's a living

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consciousness and I don't have the right to take its life that um we live in a mutual

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mystic way like the your stomach for example you have bacteria and your stomach that

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digest chlorophyll plant material the human can't do it but this bacteria does and it secretes

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the nutrients that you get from that plant and it survives because you're feeding it the

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the plant material right so it's a mutualistic way we live and it's like a tree gives you wood for

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a house it gives you shape for the sun a nest for a bird oxygen debris and the list goes on so

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everything has a part of life on this planet and it's not up to us to destroy it and abuse it

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and I could talk about this for days yeah it changed me and um this wasn't the very beginning how

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long did it take before you though were obviously the word had to get out but like how long did it

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take before one of these guys like how pov and mire from NASA to show up and and was he the first

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one to show up and why why did he show up um remember the we got passes I guess but February

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they came and did the report a June they were doing the documentary by late july august I think it was

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house shows up at our house knocking on the door and I was away in town my youngest boy Ryan

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answers the door there's a six foot four guy giant man standing at the door

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and it was just Ryan and I and he came and he was like is Chris bloodso here we're like uh no

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who are you no no calls no no no letters just showed up on announce you drove all the way from Florida

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Cape Canaveral just want to win and knocked on the door

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I was two and a half hours from here yeah it was thirteen hours there right and so he drove and

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Ryan calls me and he flashed some badges so we let him in and we was like sad at the dinner table

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with him until dad came home what was he talking what was he saying to you what was he asking you

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I don't remember everything I was pretty young but he was just I mean mom came so we were talking

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and she was just asking him questions and Ryan was probably taking the lead I don't remember

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I was pretty shy what he did was as um

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well to begin with this is in the book for the first five years we had been involved with the

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UFO world on a limited scale you know they everybody heard about us they wanted us to come speak

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they wanted to come visit and I let a few people come and the men in black was a big thing back then

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that was about the earth all came out um and so everybody was saying the government will kill you

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don't speak to this one don't if you see somebody from the government that don't speak I mean

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they put the fear of the government and my whole family and so who was they the well the people

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associated with with the move on the people associated with move on which is the UFO world basically

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you know so once that show came out it brought everybody that's involved in the UFO world

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knocking on my door bringing groups of 10 to 15 20 people sometimes and they will come I'm

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not saying it was move on as people associated with them the the UFO world so they were all about

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the men in black they're going to kill you they're going to kill you so when the government got

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house shows up at the house automatically it was fear we were all afraid and I didn't want to talk

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to him I didn't want to have anything to do with him and for the first few months I would never

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give him any information but yet he took to my children and he loved this one more than anything

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he came to my college graduation birthday parties recitals like wow he would drive all the way

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to be a part of our family yeah he was always there and you know what he told me he said Chris

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now he was that when he died he had been at NASA still holding security clearances for 60 years

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that's how long he's been there he worked with Wernerbund Brown before it was NASA

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he took his astrophysics degree in astronomy and astrophysics from JL and Heineck at Ohio State

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University he was like 15 when he graduated college house of genius yeah for genius he was

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and so why was he interested in this why was he interested in you because they knew what I was

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saying the word the triangle the triangle in the chest of the being that was a big thing a little

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child with a triangle the lady was 2012 that happened later but that even brought more people

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but it was they know they knew the phenomenon was real they've known it don't listen to him on TV

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I mean they say we don't know we don't have anything yes they do they all know was this personal for him

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or was this this business this was part of a NASA sent him this wasn't just him like a side hobby

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well no I don't want to say NASA sent him because he would always tell us not to say that

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oh okay because he wasn't supposed to be very selective with what he would say yeah

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what kind of questions was he asking you everything you can imagine he would ask each member of

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the family the same question separately to see if they would line up and he did this for years and

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years and one day decided he couldn't debunk it and just decided he loved us and that's when we

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started you know gaining like a friendly relationship with him and he like integrated into our family

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that was after years of him trying to debunk us pretty much so he was coming there to cross

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examine you guys to find holes in your story to see if he was sent he told us he was sent to debunk

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this story what he told us he worked with Jay Allen He was the debunker and we heard many stories how

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he would find a hole of this person you know son of a sheriff fake something he caught him that's

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what he did and but he also would come and stay days while we weren't there didn't always

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in town he would be at the newspaper he'd be on every house on the street where this phenomenon

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first appeared to us in 2007 he investigated every house within a mile or two of that place

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and that's who found the eight other witnesses that testified to him on his when he was getting

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the information that they had seen something that night and so that's what he did when he

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filled a real finally realized it was he couldn't blow a hole in the story that too many knew it was real

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and he became a part of the family and he began to see the phenomenon with me we set out in the

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back watch it come over we loved him how was a great guy for our friends for my family my children

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we just loved a guy and he was coming to our house thanks given a 20 20 when 2018 2019 he was coming

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2019 yeah and we were expecting him on Friday with the thanks given that we can and

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he he failed in his bathroom he just had it and went to coma oh no

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who is this guy

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go ahead uh Colonel John Alexander

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the men who stare at goats John Alexander that one yep that's John you see our new zoom in on it a little

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mm-hmm you see my hat there that's I've got a whole box of those John where's one to

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CIA so okay explain this story how did you meet John Alexander and and what was your relationship with

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him would John start saw the first chapter of the book and um this guy's like a legendary military

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general right yep it's a Colonel Colonel yeah what are they call him doctor death yeah that's his name

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it was an assassin in the military he's isn't his PhD in like death uh you know near death

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studies from Harvard I think he's still alive yeah yeah I talked to him this week wow yeah

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we we stay in contact I mean we love John John was at my house not long ago

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so in fact we're going to spend that oh wow that's Joe McMonaco C.I.A. spy number one

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remote viewer number one 001 001 that's him Joe McMonaco he's a legend that's at the Monroe Institute by the way

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yeah which we uh we love to be how are you introduced to him and what was his interest in you John

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um it was 2015 I think this lady by the name of Pam Nance she's a research scientist for the

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government and her home bases weight forest university so Pam calls me I was introduced to her

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by somebody and then I've called her back long story short she says Chris um

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I'm researching the paranormal me and my assistant Ashley she said we're researching the paranormal

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and I just got to tell you she said I've been on pilot mountain in North Carolina she's

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lived from Winston-Salem works at weight forest right there in Winston-Salem right so she said I

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was on pilot mountain or mount pilot like the end of Gryffinit's a mountain right she has a cabin

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near there of her home place from way back and she said that she and Ashley would hike up on pilot

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mountain and set under the stars and turn on this voice box they call it spirit box I've never heard

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of such but it's a little device about like the size of a cell phone that has this awful noise

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that comes out of it it sounds like uh static static white noise but it's it's ticking tick tick tick

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like so and what it's doing is scanning millions of frequencies and they these investigators

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believed that and I know now that this embodied spirits or voices can come through that thing

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so she said she was on pilot mountain and she would ask it questions and it kept saying

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Chris UFO Chris UFO and it said it over and over over several days she would hear the same thing

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Chris UFO even said hope mills which is where we live so she gets on the phone with uh move on

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and finds out who is Chris and the UFO well they gave her my number right away so she comes to the

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house and we're out at the burning tree first we did um about an hour and a half interview in my

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study and she had all her equipment running and then we went um and and

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not to get ahead of myself but why they did the hour and a half study inside they got like 60 or 70

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voice communications audible that was recorded on a recorder just to come on out of thin air

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so we go out to the tree and we do this investigation and uh I'm just holding this box in one hand

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spirit box with a recorder hooked to a digital recorder so this is recording what this is saying

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and you can hear this thing so she talks me into standing at the burning tree while my wife

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her assistant Pam and Ashley my wife and Stephanie my niece there were four ladies standing

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you know 10 feet from me looking at me I'm leaning against that burning tree

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and I'm holding this thing and we start asking questions

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crazy thing this thing started talking and it would answer my question it was say my name

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and four or five voices would come through it they recorded 350 audio clips and she said I'd never

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seen anything like it she said if I went to the Charleston jail to do a ghost hunt she could take

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six of these recorders and let them run for hours each one and they might get one voice out of

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you know 40 hours of recording where we got over 350 recorded clips but one thing it said

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it said Chris the Pope is in danger helping you must help the Pope it was saying this we got it on

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recording and she even made a PowerPoint with this with all these clips you're going to listen to

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are they online no okay I've got them okay but um with all this happening um

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I knew that the Pope was going to Philadelphia he was already had been into Washington and was

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making his trip to New York City and he was going to go to Philadelphia was this Pope Francis I think

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was Francis right when they were going he was going to make a speech at the Congress old of the

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original Congress Hall in Philadelphia so I call a friend that called me last night the guy you asked

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about who it was it called I said I called this guy I said hey Larry you won't believe this I said

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this thing this lady has an I'm I'm talking to him right after all this investigation

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I said this thing keeps saying that the Pope's in trouble it's coming to Philadelphia

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but he said you must help him it was saying this not you can hear it must help him so immediately my

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friend says we maybe you should come to to Philadelphia and let's see what we can do about it

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so a couple three days later I'm in Philadelphia and when I walk in his house there stands John Alexander

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first time I ever met him and that's when we started removing the whole Pope first chapter of this

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book and they actually arrested a guy for trying to blow him up I even told him he was going to use a

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bomb I saw where the boat ramp beside Ben Franklin bridge I drew it all out and they verified it

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and so they got secret service involved and then John calls German monogal and Jeff says the same

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exact thing that I say and so from that point they shut down Philadelphia closed every access

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into it and made people walk from the Jersey side across the Ben Franklin bridge you had to walk

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in you couldn't drive and they arrested a guy for that so that's how I met John and it was a real

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thing that what happened there and that got the attention of a lot of people did you ever speak with

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the Pope I never had personally I had words I had messages relayed to me from the Vatican through

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Diana and my friend from NASA Jim Taylor and he sent me pictures of orbs and of St. Francis with

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these orbs appearing and he had these hands were zapped and at that time I couldn't use my hands I

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could barely button my pants I get my kids to button my pants and couldn't tie my shoes couldn't

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hardly pull my pants out my hands were just in flame this is the arthritis this is rheumatoid

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which is an autoimmune disease so yeah the other NASA individual you met after how how long

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what where on the timeline did you meet him I met him in 20 it was either late 2012 or early 2013

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and what happened there I was at a gathering an old lock cabin in upstate Pennsylvania on the Delaware River

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we're on a lake we crossed the river and did this beautiful historic cabin it had Thomas

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Edinson's bedrooms who'd there right so big money and Taylor had heard I was there and he was out

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at LA California and so he heard I was at that meeting and he wanted to meet me and he called and said

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I'm coming from LA I'm heading to Huntsville but I'm almost swing by Pennsylvania first to meet you

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I want to I want to talk and so he showed up that afternoon I'd been there one day we got

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their Friday Saturday evening he shows up and we became very close friends from that point on and

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after he left from there he flew out the next morning back to Huntsville so he coming one evening

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met me made arrangements to come to my house and to meet my family and a week or so later he was in

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Fayetteville at my house and the rest is history from there so Tim he was what was his background

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where did he work what was his what was he studying and what was his interest in you

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Tim is this an amazing guy he's a genius and he's a very kindhearted person

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he is an engineer for NASA that he's probably been at NASA now 40 some years over 40 years

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and he runs all the launches he's the man he's an in our OGA national reconnaissance office

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and sorry to interrupt but let's just clarify for people what that means national reconnaissance

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office what do they do national reconnaissance was a very secretive organization until a few years

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ago when they were discovered and it went public but he he was a part of the Air Force a part of NASA

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and the CIA all three so he holds the credentials for all three and what they do these guys they're

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the top ranks they have the highest security clutches they so high they can't even travel they can't

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go into hospital and have surgery unless somebody's escorting them because he might talk so there's

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the eyes on the sky in our OGAZ see it all they have if there's anything planned in our space there's

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a select few of those guys that get to see it and I mean it's compartmentalized down to just a handful

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so they they own all the satellites all the spy planes they run the launches because these every

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time they launch something something from up there come check it out swim right up toward

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order flap to it and make sure it's not something that's sitting shouldn't be and I'll stop with that so

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let's just say something okay well that's something we're gonna have to talk about later later swim right

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up to it okay yeah all right anyways we define in our row so he was a an aerospace engineer working

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for NASA for 40 years and 40 years now probably he was there 30 years when I met him and what did

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he say to you what kind of things was he was he asking you when he for when you guys first met him

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he was the kindest person understanding somebody I liked he never doubted me one of the worst

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things to do with this subject and everybody feels that you're you know a new person on the block

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is so afraid to tell anybody because of the way you're gonna be perceived you crazy right right he

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was never like that he was and what really was the difference and I'm sitting here with a lead scientist

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or NASA the one of the top guys NASA he runs the launches he is he runs the launches he runs them all

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this guy he's in charge he's the dragon is a dragon tattoo on his arm his console it's called dragon

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console I'd the number to his dragon console yeah his console is named the dragon which is his

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space in mission control where he stands and runs the launch he's the dragon oh wow yeah and so to

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have that kind of person question in me about what they look like not are you sure you saw this

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not I don't believe you it was none of that it was what what did they look like to scrub them to me

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were they this way were they that way did they walk this way didn't you know all this stuff

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and so far right away I found somebody that that I appreciated that could help me understand

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and he he felt so sorry for Chris junior that his mission was to meet him he wanted to meet

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junior he came and he spent a lot of time with him changed his life because

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junior had the worst problem being 17 years old with people telling him he's a liar you know

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that's the worst thing you can do grandmas and grandpas even say and I don't believe you

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you know were you on drugs or something and it wasn't the case and so this guy comes and he knew

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it was real and he went right straight to my house and he met everybody briefed us with official

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briefing on a laptop with our name our eyes only the bloodsoaf family he tested each one of us with

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metamaterial and a cipher to have a reaction to it and he he counseled junior for a long time

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and changed his life because now he had some pride he had somebody to believe him and if NASA people

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would do that and that's a really big deal so that's how that he briefed you specifically what do

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you mean by that you can tell him well you can see in this photo it was the day of my homecoming

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game I had I was running for homecoming and so we were all called into my brothers room one by one

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to watch this briefing video he had this PowerPoint that said for the bloodsoaf eyes only

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and it had different photos and things that he would explain to us that I probably am not going

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to say or share and then he would hand us all a piece of metal and we would you know hold another

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piece and see if there was any sort of reaction and he would test us all privately and separately so

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we wouldn't know what was happening so he could get more of like a I don't know like a real

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reaction so we didn't like pretend or something and we all felt something but when dad held the

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the material even though we all felt like electricity he was like seizing from it because his

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experiences had been so intense the photos he was showing you or the stuff that he was showing you

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was it like trying to cross reference things that you guys had seen with things that he had documented

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or some some of it was area 51 so I can't say nothing about but he was just things in and ask

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questions why do you think that's like that why do you think that door is known for the tall

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and I won't say no more there but let's just say

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because it was official briefing I probably shouldn't go very deep and why do you think it's so

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classified it's always been the most classified subject higher than the atomic bomb and it's been

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that way forever do you think it's a good thing that's so secret well I think it's just the cats

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had the bag now and they can't hold on to the secret they're gonna try it because they have no

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choice so there's nobody at NASA qualified to walk up in front of the television and say this is

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this and that because it takes an act of Congress to change their whole mechanics before they can do

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that so then these organizations can't tell it and they're not going to congress is up there

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want them to trying to demand them but their protocols says no so it takes a whole lot of politics

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to to maneuver around to get the air force to ever open up about anything this is on entity

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basically and for technology and for state security national security this is why the government's

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not open about it they don't want to talk about it because this technology involved with the

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stuff is incredible and they're not about to give it away to just anybody so explain what happened

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again when he handed you this piece of material well he handed me I was the last person in a room

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so imagine my five my wife and four children and Jenny I wasn't in the room when you held it

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but go ahead but most everybody was in there they were sitting on a bed or on a

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ran out of couch in his room but when I walked in the room everybody was watching me and quiet

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couldn't say a word and up on top of the dresser you know the dresser is tall not the

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nice thing not nice thing but the dresser he had the laptop set up there suppose I'm looking up at it

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and he goes to the whole briefing and watching his PowerPoint and asking questions and then

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he goes over to the chair and picks up a backpack which is in it and he pulls out this little piece of

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metal it's about a half inch square size of a poster stamp then I mean then and he put it

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my hand and it just looked like a square of gray metal he said what do you think of that

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it looks like aluminum I don't know I didn't know what it was so he reaches in his backpack and he

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pulls out another piece and he puts it in this hand and it's like aluminum foil you look like

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aluminum foil you could crinkle it up but it wouldn't crinkle it would stay wavy but it wouldn't

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crease so I messed with it and it just sat there but the minute he put it in that hand

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as soon as the aluminum foil yeah this one was thicker it was a piece of metal this was an aluminum

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bowl and he described this as the insulation he said this is the insulation like I already knew

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what he was talking about right but when he put that in his hand it made a connection through my

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body to this hand and my arms began to thump like that and suddenly my eyes just started to black out

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and he reached in my hand and took it out and I got my vision good and he said he was this close to

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my face he said why you I said do why what just happened he said why you I said what do you mean

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why me he said I would have known you were lying if you hadn't had a reaction he said I'd never

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seen a reaction like this so I've only ever seen two the yours was buying four different in

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anybody's why you I never understood what he meant by why you but he said it three or four times

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and from that point on we've become friends and done some traveling together

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and I ended up with him where's this it kept cannibal that building right there that door

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is it's very famous at NASA that is the astronaut crew quarter and that building was built in

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I think in the 50s so when they were 60s when they put the first rocket in its space

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when an astronaut rides that rocket they can't they have to be in quarantine for like six weeks

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I think so they don't get it cold and the daughters so they have a crew quarters that have bedrooms

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in there and a conference room and bathrooms and a doctor's office and when they go in there they

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live for weeks with their wife and children and the same house din mother that arranges food and so

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there's a lot more pictures of inside that place but he told me that I'm fat when we walked

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in the front door of it the din mother come up and said how who are you I said I'm his friend

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he said how did he get in here who'd you point to your whose friend

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ten oh it was me and ten walked in there and she said who are you I said I'm his friend

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she said well you know there's only 300 people have ever been in this building that's only one

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US president no congress nobody just 300 since his existence that's including all the astronauts

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and the family members in other words she was asking why I was going into a place with such security

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and I couldn't answer it but I enjoyed the tour I got to sit where John Glenn said or all of them

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got to hang out in in the whole place and got to sit where they put their suits on and then they

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filmed me coming out the door that door is where all the astronauts would walk out holding their

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gear with the suits on they would walk out that door and get in an air stream camper

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fan of gas powered one and they would be transported from that door to the rocket before they took

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off so that's a really famous photo there so they treated me like royal and I'll give you a

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secret he told me he said he said your life will never be the same when you leave from this place

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it'll change you I said what do you mean by that he said well every time these astronauts went

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to space something come back with him and it's here it's still here something comes back with them

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yeah it's invisible but it becomes visible every now and then they see orbs all over the place there

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sure do near the at the launch site they see orbs at pictures of what comes back with them

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I don't know I know it heightened everything happening with me experience with the phenomenon grew

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greater understanding of it grew the spirit there's a lot of misunderstanding about these orbs

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and aliens they maybe it's technology maybe but to me it's more like a spirit they're like spirits

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like ghosts but that can come full physical did you ever clarify what he meant by why you

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nope you never did he's a secretive guy man he's he's like a ghost 10 minutes

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that's why Diana wrote his book wrote her book she didn't put his name in there oh yeah he was

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Tyler D in American Cosmic but you know that's that was thin now the subject is he probably don't

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like he's talking about him but that's okay it's part of my life and I'm sorry you're good for

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an amount him he never so he never clarified anything about like them trying to learn more about it

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and like them being interested and like why were they interested or why did they make

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themselves so visible to you and not other people yeah we went over that a lot you know and and

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you said there was two other people that experienced the same thing you experienced with the medals

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he didn't tell me who he just said I've seen two other in my life I'd seen two other reactions

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but nothing like yours I remember something from your book I don't remember in what what it was

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from reference to but I remember there were you mentioned a conversation that you had with him

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when you were at Cape Canaveral and he said something like they weren't interested in anyone else

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like there we know about them they're not interested they don't care about us right okay so

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when he first came remember we were afraid of government people we were still had

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out there and I was still petrified about this guy so I asked him remember we're afraid of

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the government so I was being titled up and I said why are you here you know thank you for helping

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my children thank you for helping Junior but why are you here why do you need me why does the

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government need me because I'm still worried about the government right there everybody's talking

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they're going to kill you people have died and I heard all this but that and been my feeling

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everybody had met it been really nice people he said because we see him he said we see him

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but they don't nothing to do with us zero and we want to study him we want to know more

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and we would like to study you and we would suggest you don't go to any UFO events don't go to

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any conferences don't get involved because people that go to those tend to take on each other's

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stories you get somebody that sees a light fly by during the coroner or goes over suddenly they

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involved with names they're from the Galactic Federation they were the Pleiadians they were

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the Octurians they did this they did that they know everything about when they only saw a light

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this happens in the UFO world and a lot of those things people tend to know more than

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the experts do you know what I'm saying yeah so he said we see him but they have nothing to do

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with us and we'd like to know why they want you we know they like you we know that and we just

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want to investigate something so that's how that happened do you have any idea the answer to that

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question why do they like you why do they want to communicate with you and not with anybody else

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I have no idea I've asked that to a hundred times and how probably my are told me one day

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and he was always very tight-lipped to how he would ask a million questions and tell you one answer

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right we always was and I'm like how why are they here why did they want me why they around me

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like this all the time he said because of your family so they told me he said they're probably

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your family what that means I don't know and I'll tell you something else how to tell me

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serious is all get out was how map the moon he wrote the book on occultation great occultation

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grazing I don't know how you say that word occultation grazing in other words he wrote many books

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on the moon okay so he mapped the moon he mapped the landing spot for the Apollo mission

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he said you got a land here and he drew out the coordinates that's what how did he studied the

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moon more than anybody in the world he's an expert on the moon so we were talking one night out

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watching the stars and I'm like how I said is there really something on the back side of the moon

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he looked at me and he said their buildings up there big ones and we didn't build them

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and they're ancient ancient so help me that's what he told me not it now see more questions

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but he wouldn't answer he told me that he said there are structures up there that we did not build

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and they're very old this coming from the world's expert on the moon

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was you asking if the moon landing was real I never did I never did but he says it was yeah so I believe

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him wow wow he had his technology is still in the moon that he put up there something for lasers to

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shoot off and stuff up there scientific right he was responsible for putting up there didn't he say

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the buildings look like mushrooms some of them I thought that was really weird some very ancient

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buildings that look like mushrooms on the dark side of the moon I said Tim what do you think about

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the moon is there there's something going on up there is there structures up there he said

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he said do you think that it landed by chance in the perfect spot where it clips is the sun

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and it doesn't ever change its face to the earth it stays locked in a position he said none of that

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was by accident he wouldn't elaborate anymore he said but there's something going on up there I

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can't say but it's not by accident I knew the moon was a spaceship wow yeah that's what he told me

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so what is it how is it all I don't know we're at the beginning of studying this thing and

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what is it we're dealing with who is it how all I can tell you is how it reacts to me and

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demonstrate that part so okay getting back to what he told you about music and keeping music

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in your head right when why did he tell you to do that because along about twenty

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fifteen I think twenty fourteen or twenty fifteen somewhere in there I get a call from a lady I

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showed you a picture today of Chris Jr. walking in a field with him yes and a lady by the name of chase

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Klutsky Chase is very well known in the UFO world Chase Klutsky Klutsky I prefer photo here I can

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chase in her husband Pete Pete worked with the US Navy in the intel right so just so just so

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how to Pete's uh Tim's at my house and so the day that we were tested wouldn't metal the bottom one

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they go there they are that guy on the right is Navy US naval sub commander naval intelligence

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and Tim is right national reconnaissance office NASA Chase

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Ivon my wife and of course Emily and this was the 10th grade right uh 11th grade he told

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them if they wanted to visit they had to come to my game so they all came watch me so um yeah

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so after that event there uh what when was this home coming October um yeah it would have been

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like September October of 2013 so I think it's we've asked for in November that year

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Chase calls me and says Chris you ever heard of St. Paul's I said yeah before you tell me let

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me tell you something let's hit chase I said last night Saturday night I was uh sitting on my back

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patio had a fire going just me laying back looking straight up at the sky and two orange orbs

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appeared red ones just like you saw last night they same color they just appeared bloom just appeared

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sitting stationary above me up way up and they came on down and when they got to the top of the trees

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they stopped now there's these two orange balls suddenly they fired off straight towards St. Paul's

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just above the trees she said oh my god I can't believe this I should have known she said um

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Saturday night this was Monday night she called me she says Saturday night um I got a call

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yesterday about a ghost hunter group from Wilmington North Carolina Wilmington Ghost Hunters

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Wilmington Paranormal I think the name of the group but they were in St. Paul's at an old plantation

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house investigating ghost and they walked outside into the woods and there's this old rickety

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of house that the farm tenants used to live in it's old I mean it was falling in but they were in

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there in the edge of the woods and these two orange balls of light flew right over their head

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right over the trees and it freaked them out when they saw it and suddenly one of them said that

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this tall bean peeped around a tree at them and they pulled out their guns one of them was this

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police detective one was a prison guard but they started shooting at it they were shooting at this

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they didn't just had a glimpse of it so they were shooting in the woods you know at this thing

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first ask questions later right and so I said uh I said oh my lord she said would you go with me

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over there I'm coming next Saturday to investigate I said yeah I'd be glad to go with you

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so Saturday comes Friday I'd already called Tim I said Tim I've got something and I told

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them a whole story about seeing the orders at my house and then I've ever seen they went to

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St. Paul's and this happened to these people he said pick me up Saturday morning from the airport

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so I went to Fable and picked him up Saturday morning and we rode over and that's the picture you saw

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them walking across the field Tim chase Chris Jr. Okay so we walked across that field and went

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into these woods and what I noticed immediately was that the whole place had been timbered except

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where the house said it was a grove of trees but behind it on behind it had been timbered out and

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they went in through the swamps and the cypress pond and destroyed it and it was just a mess in there

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and I got the impression that it was because of the destruction of that environment is the reason

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they were there who knows why but that's what I told Tim he said you think they're still here

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I said yeah I think they're still here they haven't gone anywhere he said uh but

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what they decided to do was to recreate the ghost hunt that night they wanted us to go

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with them and do a ghost hunt so Tim's like I'm going back to Alabama so I took him three

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clock to the airport and he flew back to Alabama come in just for the day and that night I went back

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over there at six in the evening to do a ghost hunt with him and so that evening I show up and I'm

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with the ghost hunt and group near eight of us I'm the eighth person so you got chasing Pete

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and myself and then five members from limiting the ghost hunter crew came so we were going to

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recreate the whole thing so eight of us they finished the house thing and then we walked across the

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field to the old farm tenant house and here if I can explain it to you because I wrote about this

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in the book when you walk in the cabin is old and dilapidated just a one room basically one room cabin

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it is 10 feet into the forest you know real thick forest so you can't see it unless you get right

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up to it but once you get into the forest there there's this old cabin when you walk out the back door

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couldn't even go into front you had to go in and out the back door the front was ported up

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but when you step off the steps of the back door of that cabin you walk about six or eight feet

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is all and then there's a ditch a rubric dish is six six foot deep and it's dry trees growing up in

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the ditch it's old but the ditch goes all the way down the property right behind the cabin less

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and 10 feet from the back door so they were telling us after we were recreating everything we went

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through the the little house and they had all the regos hunting equipment inside and they said

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now we're going to go out the back take you the same way we went before and Tim and I discussed

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the possibility that these beans were still there I soon I told him I thought they were and

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why they came and he said well tonight to get in a little more depth

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he explained to me that these beans can hear your thoughts and they can stay hidden from you

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by knowing what you're thinking so if you happen to see one by accident they can rewind your memory

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basically by a device that they have that I've seen the patterns on it patterns yep but if you

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were to sing this song not let them know what you're thinking might get a chance to see one

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that's what he told me I've held this I'm telling you this first time publicly about these little details

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so that night we walk out the back door with the ghost something crew and I'm in the back I'm in

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the eighth kind of in the rear chases in print of me so she's seven I make but Pete he

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navigates under the world with submarines right he got a compass on his arm and so Pete's got us

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in tow we got to go out of the back of that cabin and walk across the hundred yards is all of woods

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that's really thick in that spot the rest of the forest to the right and left has been timber but we

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got to walk through that clump of trees to get to a power line when he's a big high-tension power

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lines you can see for a mile in the direction right so it runs parallel with the the cabin field

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only a hundred yards you walk through it takes 15 minutes to walk that section from the back of

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the cabin to the power line it's important I say that because when we started through the woods

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everything was fine we're all perfect talking carrying on excited

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made our way to the power line so when we get to it we walk up and down the power line for an hour

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and we were testing all these equipment they had these ghost owners just recreate and whole thing

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so when it was time to go back to the cabin we had to go straight east 15 minutes and we would end

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up at the cabin we went right back to the spot we went come out at right where we exited onto

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the power line we started back in right there pizza and tow would just watch and navigate so I'm behind

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them I'm singing my song singing singing singing and I noticed everybody got out loud or in your head

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I noticed everybody got nervous kind of weirded out and there you know I saw

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what looked like they were drawing their guns again getting ready to

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and what I've learned about this that they can put fear in you these beings can control what you think

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so they can make you afraid make you go a different direction if they don't want you here right

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they can put fear into you I'm just repeating what I was told

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we're starting in 15 minutes cross pizza leading away

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I saw him get nervous and that's when I started singing suddenly I saw these green orb

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look like eyes people ran into tree I tapped chase on the back and pointed at it she saw it

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immediately with me next thing I know Pete is right at the ditch so when we walked through that

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ditch nobody else saw this just chasing us all right she remembers it but when we crossed that

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ditch we had 10 feet to walk I mean you can see I was from here to that wall it's the cabin right

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but when we got to the ditch and we walked in that ditch when we come out to other side of the

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ditch we stepped back out on the power line and that freaked everyone out it freaked Pete out he's

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like what just happened he's a submarine commander navigates under the ocean it blew him away what

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had just happened I knew what had happened so you basically stepped out exactly where you started yep

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yep we put it east heading for 15 minutes we got to the ditch we walked in the ditch and out

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onto the power line and there's no ditch on the power line side so what happened they couldn't

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figure it out but I saw the being I knew right then we were missing time what they did is they wiped

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our mind on the trip across so I didn't tell them that because once we got to the cabin again we

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went back across when in addition come back out the cabin so we made two trips across that power

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line from the power line to that building so Monday comes along Chase calls me Chris you'll never

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believe this I said yeah I will chase we lost 15 minutes didn't we she said no we lost 12 minutes

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and they recorded it they had helmet cans on they had all these stopwatches and they know that we

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lost 12 minutes at time with that group of people at night and Tim was there Tim was there that day

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oh the day that was the night after he left yeah and they'll tell the story the same group of people

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Chase it tells it tells about missing time with me that's not the only group that's done that this

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happened with several okay so fast forward to when you were going through the security doors at

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Cape Canaveral at NASA there was a black a black glass building that you go that you pass

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it was like a hut like a guard shack a guard shack right beside this fence you know you got

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mission control and a fence around it you got fences within fences right when you get to the main

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building where the launch is going off right they had razor wire and a bob our fence

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um I tend to it how all the way around that thing we're guards standing there with machine guns

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and to go through that gate you got to walk by this guard shack and it's about eight by eight black

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the middle's black and the windows of black you can't see in it at all but it was like

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it was like when you walk by that building they can read your thoughts you never told me who they

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or what they or how they you just said they can read your thoughts so just sing us all and that's

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why I first heard about it this was before the ghost something trip so I already knew about it

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he just told me to do it again when I was on this this was before the ghost hunting trip yeah

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what was in the building that could read your thoughts I've had that question ever since I have no

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this is the kind of way these guys are communicating it gave you a little bit is it a lie

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or they throw a meal up on a wrong course but they didn't you know they seem pretty real what he was

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telling me so once you were once you got into the building the launch control center where where

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Tim goes right what what did he show you in there the specific room was there did he show you

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specifically where he is and what he does and what he works on when he's there yeah so if you can

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imagine mission controls basically a square it looks like a square it looks like one of those

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construction flight trailers you would bring on a job but bigger in a square and there's a hallway

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right down the middle and glass on either side you got this hallway with glass big long hallway

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with glass and if you look to the right is NASA scientist controlling the launch so you got all

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these 50 people or however many than they're standing or sitting at each console like you see on TV

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same thing on the left side is the exact duplicate of the right but the left side's all airports

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so the airports isn't Bob big time with NASA that's part of the NRO thing I think so they're all

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these cadets all these young soldiers are there learning to to control launches and I got to meet

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the general there she came out in the hallway and spoke to me and I was even told how to address her

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before I got to meet her and which I did and that was pretty cool but there's a room that's a

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closed-off room only Tim goes into how big is the room I don't I didn't get to go into it but I

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saw it where it was and he explained to me that was his office and in that office once the launch

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goes off he has to stand and his control when that rocket leaves and everything looks good he goes

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into that room and it's for his eyes only and the other guys in the NRO that are involved in

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other ways in other words when that rocket leaves the ground they have ground-based cameras that

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looks like giant binoculars that you sit in and they can swivel and film this rocket right but

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once it gets up so high it gets gaseous and they can't see the detail and they want to know every

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angle of that thing they want to see every bit they can see okay something goes wrong they know how

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to fix it right and it's how they found that o-ring that leak can cause the explosion with the shuttle

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remember when it blew up they could see the Challenger yeah they could see the fuel coming out

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where the o-ring was stretched but when that rocket gets to 50,000 feet they have what's called a

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WB 57 which is a really big it's like an old U2 spi-plane the huge wings and it just hovers up

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there about 50,000 feet a group of guys in RR and they intercept the rocket

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but when it's going up and starts going over that WB 57 is right behind at filming it

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because the ground-based cameras don't have clear now this airplane has it when it gets on up

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there about a hundred thousand feet they have and you could see the picture of the 104 star fighter

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that's it right there that thing can fly right on up to about a hundred thousand feet following that

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rocket that can and they chase it keeping a film on it a camera on it the whole time and the rocket

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is going so fast it'll outrun it right and it loses sight and then comes the satellite cameras

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pick it up and when Tim goes into that door his eyes are on every stage of that camera

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as it's going up and so he sees if anything from somewhere else up gets nosy and grows up and takes

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a look or even shoots it down because it's happened before it's got they've gotten shot down

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I've seen one you saw one get shot down I saw the video

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it's where it is is this one that we all know about some people do you want to find it

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it's been scrubbed but and what was it shot down by the video I saw was um you see I get a little nervous

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here it was a rocket this thing was going 15,000 miles an hour and when it arcs over and it don't

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go straight off they go up always and then they go over and they fly out gradually climbing up as

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they go around the world they don't leave it what I saw was when this rocket left over the

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Pacific coast I think it was launched out of Bendingburg when it went up out of

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started over all of a sudden this little flying saucer appears

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flies right up to it intercepts it as it's going 15,000 miles an hour flies around it

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and a little white lizard beam comes out and shoots it from every side as it's going around it

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at 15,000 miles an hour suddenly the whole rocket malfunctions doesn't blow up just quits and

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tumbled out to the sea I saw that what was on this rocket that's what I asked him he said why

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you think they did that I said you have weapons on there and he wouldn't answer that he said

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well it might have been a mock war here but it wasn't a lot on man yeah

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so I saw it with my own eye so that rocket that one out of Bendingburg is known

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it's known there's people that have seen it before I think I've heard vague

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vague stories told about that before it's real I'm seeing it

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did you ever heard or spoke to Gary about the research he's been doing on and the brain scans

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he's been doing with people that have experienced the phenomenon where he's noticed a certain part

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of the human brain I think it's the caught a pateman or the in the basal ganglia that is it's

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extremely dense with neurons different yeah yeah I'm surprised he spoke about that because that's

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been kind of secret for a long time yeah well you know they study my brain they're going to start

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studying hers this year in most oh really yeah well I can't say no more but we're just going to say

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yeah yeah so what are they do what's going on here in this photo that I write about in the

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last chapter of the book that's that's at the Monroe Institute that whole deal was created

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basically around me that whole week we were there yeah they wanted to get me out there

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and see if we could film the phenomenon it's never been done right nobody's never walked out

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and had it come and they filmed it like that so if they get a video it's by accident but we were

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going to do it intentionally and so they invited Emily and I and some other people friends of ours

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that it came and the rest of the group was while they were dining or having fun I'm in the lab being

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wired up right the lab right yeah and so when we go out at night we had orbs appearing they'd

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never seen anything like it they filmed they got sensors setting on tops of the mountains random

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generators and all and they were going off the orbs were up here and there is an orb that we filmed

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a friend of ours named Rob Freeman he came from Canada he brought a $250,000 camera that he bought

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just to film the phenomenon so it's all this is a big apparatus of cameras inspect from all kind

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of stuff I couldn't even tell you there's a big set up so he walks up to me and he says Chris

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he said you know what you've changed my life he said I want to apologize so I stood up and I said thank

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you Rob don't worry I don't forgive you I reached out in a hug him and as soon as I hugged

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a flash somebody said look flash so Rob runs back to his camera locks it in on this object turns it

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on and for 45 minutes that object never moved it set their flash flash the starfield moved

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across the sky but the object never wiggled so you can find that called the Monroe Flasher on YouTube

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and that was from that night when Rob and I hug and we made a great bond I mean I won't be

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would rob again this November the Monroe Flasher on YouTube you got you got so far maybe we should look

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at it oh wow this is like some sort of like analysis video somebody made talking about it okay now

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these are so this is that $250,000 camera that's right out here yep see if it flashes there it is

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you see it in one spot you know large the screen you can see it better it buried an intensity

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to how bright it flashed it wow it's so tiny well it was way up there right but it got bigger

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brighter at times lot of the same distance as the one we saw last night no this further up

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further this is way up there but the thing is that there was 45 minutes of it notice parts of that

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is a whole lot brighter and bigger but move on Canada which is where he's from certified it true and all

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but that was a story there that what we were doing was filming with scientists government scientists

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a whole lot of using sensors and all to record this for the first time now were they using some

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of the same technology that Andy was using during the filming of that show where they were kind of

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tracking it against the FAA and against satellites to make sure it wasn't planes or satellites I

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didn't see one of those they may have had it because they had sensors on the mountains and so on

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right but yeah can you play that video from last night it's on there it's in there it's uh there's

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like I think there's three videos but there's two of them that are in here yeah it's in there

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it's the fifty oh no nevermind Stephen has them okay I do

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Stephen's got them look at them cute up so yeah so we sat out there for maybe 30 minutes before

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before we saw anything and then all of a sudden these things started appearing on the horizon and

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there was a couple a couple things that happened over our head look like shooting stars yeah

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that's that's the orbs a lot of times because they'll they'll go straight up

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see if we get audio going on here what's cool is this uh this there's this surf you can see yeah

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oh it's uh the contrast is like crazy it's like darkened on the screen yeah you see the horizon okay

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there you go so so the planes were far above this this was very very low on the horizon and you

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can see the planes that are there were airplanes above it uh find the one that's the longest one the

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fifty second one that one has it a two in it there are two orbs in that right right and the first

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one's right on the water in fact I don't doubt that it didn't come from the water as you know

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what's weird is you just had to ask me about that right before right about the water yeah I think

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about the water and then we get one right on top of the water so that thing was right above the

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horizon and it was getting really bright and then getting going invisible going dim yep and airplanes

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don't do that nope nope and you could we could we know that because there was literally airplanes

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coming in for landing that would turn on their their bright headlights for that their landing

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approach or whatever it's called in that fifty second video you can actually see planes all around

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it right up above it there's one there taught right you see that little flat yeah that's your

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everyone was flashing let me see if I can get the the the older one that the the bigger one yeah

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working because that doesn't make sense why it wouldn't so what what is the connection do you think

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you talk a lot about in your book this sort of which which which it got me wrapped up in this

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Edward this ed Casey thing with the healing power what is the connection with this ability to heal

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how real is that and and and and was Tim involved in any of that with some of the stuff that he was

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doing with the medical research and the medical patents well yeah in a way how that came about was

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in 2013 Easter again one year later remember 2012 on Easter I had the lady experience right

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she came and told me about the red star or the star of regulars and um um

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granted me the ability to record this stuff she did it it came straight from her 2012 well 2013

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she comes back this time she takes me these beans take me somehow I'm transported from my home

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up through the top of my house I saw the rafters I went and was pulled up into a ball of light

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next thing I know we're um it's touching down from this orb and walk out of it into this desert

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environment look like Utah I have been obsessed for five years with Utah more than that

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than my kids know this okay so here's the video you got it pulled up to you yeah it doesn't play on

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the computer but it does play in drop box so here we go okay so you see it is that a plane

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let's talk about playing two planes now that thing comes right out of the water yeah right up out of the

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ocean there's a plane's around it now it's going to disappear but if you look to the right of it

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here in a second there's a second one right close to it that appears there it comes now it's going

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to disappear it's down disappears then that one yeah what that like it gets real bright

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those are your orbs and see these planes right above it they can see that that's why they're

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so elusive man we there's three planes four planes in the picture and then you got this one

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to work and then I think it goes out again right yeah just disappeared but I don't know how you can

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explain that away with a lot you can't you can't and if you maybe tonight we go out sky watching

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again yeah maybe I'm hoping something comes much closer like real close well we were we were

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right on Indian Rocks Beach in front of a lot of really bright buildings and condos and there was

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lots of airplanes so yeah we were on the main flight path right right but it's pretty amazing for

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that to show up with all of that around yeah I knew it was a hamper though because all these

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planes around now what do them like the most hardcore skeptics say about these things do they

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what how do they try how do they try to explain these things well you know they're hardly no

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skeptics anymore I don't really have that issue okay the main thing I hear now is this demon you

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deal with demons because they've already accepted the fact that there is something happening it was

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like satellites or at one point someone said swamp gas ball light meaning all those

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lightning yeah but now it's like oh there maybe is something happening but it's evil yeah it's

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got to be evil it's got to be a demon there are videos on YouTube you can watch about ball

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lightning where people show these balls in their house these like that explode they show up and they

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float around and they explode away but in your situations there was no thunderstorms there was no

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lightning now and this is every day I mean I record this stuff every single day I showed you

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my sonics have no 2700 videos and less than 24 months that's a lot and I could have taken twice

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that because it's half the time I don't even record we see we see 10 times more than I ever record

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because a lot of times it's so fast you can't get it on camera it'll come by you

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it'll appear 10 feet away and zoom right by your Facebook that quick happens with crowds of

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20 30 70 70 people I've had it appear around and 20 feet away and it happens at significant moments

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so it's like why would ball lightning respond to specific questions thoughts emotions right

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and yeah so this is a new day the people now are knowing there's something there and so the

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skeptics have mainly gone by by most of them and the ones that are skeptical more would be the

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scientist because they just the paradigm don't allow anything there right in fact I think

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between you and I one reason they don't that they've hid this so long and don't want to tell it

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because it's not the people that would melt down it's not me and you it's not Alice in the

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mobile home part down the street or the average person they would say oh boy wonderful and

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then more of their back grocery shop yeah but it's the scientific community it's the academic world

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that has spent their life in college in teaching people about evolution and all these

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far old things that they're still teaching that so far they got to change everything so

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have the community that's teaching this would be lost where do we go from here you know so I think

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the meltdown would be there more than the average people another another thing people say about

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this is that if this was to become accepted in within humanity it would destroy all religion but

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what you see now with like going back to even the Vatican is that they are looking into astronomy I

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mean there's a there's an observatory at the Vatican and they're looking at the stars and they're

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talking about the idea of extraterrestrial life and you know they even say like if God could have

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created us and it could create ants caterpillars why couldn't create other beings that are

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somewhere else in the galaxy that are even intelligent right you can't limit God's creative freedom

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and and you know the Vatican is kind of becoming you know the religion it is not counter into it

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is not counter to the idea of extraterrestrial life or another sort of multi-dimensional life

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form or being or entity that lives parallel to us so when you think about that I don't necessarily

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believe that it would have a negative effect on established religions today I think it will for

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the the strictest of people you got religions that are pure cults that you know only we're going to

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go to heaven you know these baptists over there they can't make it or these these or them you

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know they're you know you believe like us or you're going to burn in hell they don't even rationalize

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when it comes to this stuff it's just straight by that book and there'll be the ones that

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what had the most to deal with I think because they don't have room for any deviation of

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possibilities other than what that book says example in our area north Carolina in the mountains

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you have these snake charmers snake handlers churches that get together and they pull out rattlesnakes

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and they're sitting there dancing with rattlesnakes and about every year two or three I'm

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fall ever dead but they still believe because the book says if you believe in Jesus you can drink

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poison and you won't die or you can take up a serpent and he abut you and you won't die but

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yet they get several a year fall out dead because of it but they still go right back and do

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the same thing and if you brought anything else into their belief spectrum you're probably going

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to melt their their brain did it you also say that some like sometimes beings come out of the

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orbs yeah I have a video when coming out of a war do we have that I have it on my phone right here

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I don't know how you're going to I can download it. It's the same video to this photo. No that's not

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it. Now that's a pretty interesting photo though if you want to show that while I find this. Well I

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have this one that we showed them yesterday. Oh it's just the one of the person walking

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through the woods. It's very dark but yeah. This person right here you can see is our friend Laurie

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yeah and we're I wasn't there but this was an avowed area behind our old home so it's a little

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shady here but you can see the light daylight outside beyond the trees but this figure here was not

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anyone in our party so whenever they looked at the photo later there was just this fully

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fledged figure standing in front of Laurie and also this peculiar flash of light appeared

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right behind her. Right turn your air drop on if you know how there. I'm gonna send you what you're

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gonna see here. This video she's getting now. Okay is this the video of the thing coming out of the

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orb? No she should be getting it now. Okay. This video down. Okay now let me tell you before you

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start this what you're gonna see. Okay I write about this in my book. There was a lady by the name

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Sharon. Very close to me and this family. We met her. I met her in a chapter in the book about how

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this Bible college tried to set me up and it backfired on them. The whole audience left with me and

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left them sitting. But one of the ladies there was sick. Had kidney cancer and her cancer. She had one

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kidney already removed and her second kidney was already massacized with cancer and her chemo

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wasn't working so she was looking at death and I met her on Saturday night. It's in the book. There's

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a lot about it but um Sunday morning um or Monday morning she went in for a scan and it was gone. Her

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cancer was gone and she was healed from it. So a couple years later she calls me. We stayed in touch

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but she had cancer. I had come back in her lungs and she had staged for lung cancer and she called

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me worried. She had to go in for a scan on Monday. This next Monday and said can I come to your house?

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I'm going to come for prayer. I want you to help me because we're had gotten around about this

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healing thing which we bypassed earlier. Oh yeah I'm going to go back. Yeah so she shows up from two

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hours away on Friday evening with or Saturday evening with her half a dozen friends. It was about

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five or six of them in total. All ladies. I had three Native American friends. We were born in

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Robinson County which is where the Tuscarores are from North Carolina. The tribe is there.

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So wonderful people. I was raised with them all my life and three I'm actually calling me and

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saying can we come by? We want to see the burning tree. I said absolutely perfect time to come

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because I have a lady that's sick and we can all serve prayer for her. So they show up at my house

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sharing a standing on my left and her friend one of them standing on my right. We're right between

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these two ladies and everybody else's meander and around is about eight or ten people there.

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More and you'll hear the natives standing at the burning tree singing, singing there or whatever

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they're singing. So chant and at 31 seconds in the video you'll see an orb appear six foot away

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right in front of us and it's rotating. They're always spinning and it comes right up to me

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five or six foot from me and then flashes. When they flash like that is when these

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being step out of these orbs. So the being comes out of the orb and now the orb is inside the

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being. So you can see this translucent figure with the orb inside. That's how they come. I've

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seen on many times do this and it moves to my left out of screen right in front of share and on

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Monday morning all her cancer was gone but one tiny little speck. She's cancer-free today.

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How long after again? How long after was it all gone? It was it was gone. All this masses in her

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lungs were gone but one tiny little speck. How many days later? The weekend that Monday morning.

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Wow. Okay. So you'll hear them singing here and then watch at 31 seconds. It'll flash but

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there's you have to stop it and play with it to see the six foot tall, seven foot tall light being

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it comes out of that orb. Okay. I'll turn my vest.

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Can't hear it.

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Right about here. Now slow it down and rewind. You see the orb. That's the orb.

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There's the being during the flash. And that don't show it is good on this screen for some reason.

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Yeah, the screen is not right on here. Yeah, if you can look at that you can see

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the full blown bean legs, arms and all. Really? Yeah. I don't know if I can turn it to you.

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It's a bright ed orb is. Yeah. So where's the being? To the left of the screen.

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This is inside the being now. This orb. Can you go frame by frame if you hit the side arrows

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on the keyboard? See. On the bottom left of the keyboard itself. Yeah, go. Yeah. You can go frame

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by frame there. Go back the other way to it. Peers. Come on back and you'll see the orb appear

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in an approach bus. Right now right here the orb appears. I've already backed up. So I'll back up

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again to before. And it flashes and then we're before now. Okay. This is headed forward. Okay,

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now we're going forwards. Orb appears. Flash. There's one flash. Yeah. Like one frame.

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Now it's going to go away. So go back to that one. So during that one frame is when you're saying

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you see the being. Yeah. Yeah, but that frame right there is the being. And now the orb stays inside

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of the being and you can see if you look at it on a good shot, a good camera or a computer you

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can see a translucent figure move and the orb is with it. Yeah, right there we can only see

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like a sliver of something. Right. That you can see the difference on this computer. Right, yeah,

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you can. Huh. But that that was right. That was in 2014 I think. Remember I couldn't share anything

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before 2012. Right. After 2012, I began to share it with everybody. But when 2013 comes along,

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the lady comes again and she takes me to some desert place which I perceive as you tall. I'm

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pretty sure it is. I've been obsessed with it. And I think she's going to come back and I'll be

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able to film her there. That's bizarre. Yeah, it's pretty. So Sharon, what did you make of her

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being healed of the cancer of the literally two days later? That's where she came. That's why she

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came. Yeah. And as see, let me say this in 2013, when the lady came back and I went about this

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tech me to you tall when I saw her, she imparted another thing on me that I didn't may have had it

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before, but I didn't realize it until two weeks later. This is how it arose. And this is what got

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NASA Tim involved with the health thing. Easter 2013, I had the experience with her again.

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Made the fifth I think. It was just a few days later, less than two weeks later, this investigator

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from Canada calls me and wants to come by and visit. He's on the way to Miami and we live right

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along 95. So it was five minutes off 95 for him. She can stop. I'm leaving Washington going to Miami.

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I'm just sure it's their night if you want. So we did. And my lab adore, Nelly, was, this is Nelly. She

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was walking along beside us. We went out to the tree and he must have took 20 pictures of the

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tree and we talked with 15, 20 minutes standing there. Nelly was laying on the ground beside me.

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We get back to the edge of the patio. We walked all the way back about 75 yards out there.

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So we get back to the patio. My kids are on the patio hanging out, sitting around.

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Grant and I stopped right at the edge of the cement. Nelly stopped since she's laying there beside me.

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She walked everywhere we went. She'd walk and stop and lay down.

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So I looked at Grant. I said, Grant, kids are here. You want us to help you get your bags and go

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ahead and put them in the house and use the bathroom, whatever. He's like, yeah, why not? So he's

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between me and the house. I'm looking at him at the back door. So he turns his back and he starts

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towards the door. Nelly stands up off the ground and when she walked by him, I saw blood

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shoot out of her neck in a long stream and it went the whole side of his pants. Went right by

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Grant and went his pants and I had pictures of it and she left the trailer blood going in and

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ran into the back door. Now dogs were getting front of you and try to go in before you do. Well,

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that's what she did. The door was wide open. Blood sprayed everywhere and I freaked out. Oh my god,

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what's happened to my dog. Now we ran in and I tackled her. She got five or six feet in the

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back door when I grabbed her. Blood all over the floor and at a laminate floor, it's like slipping

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on grease and I picked her up and it was all I could do to get her up because I was dealing with

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room and toilet then and it was just a struggle. I met it to the patio and later down and I looked

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at her neck and she had a hole. Maybe an inch and a half, two inches long, a gash across her vein

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and blood just just pouring out. So I laid my hand on her neck and blood poured up through my

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fingers like this and filled her heart beat and she was just kind of squirming but she won't fight

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into her. I look up at them and I realized that she was going to die. I knew it because they wouldn't

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call a new ambulance. They're what and no time to get her to the doctor. We lived 20 miles or

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20 minutes from anywhere and everybody's freaked out, grand-setting her to computers. He's recording

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this whole thing and I said, what am I going to do? And I looked up at the sky and I said, Lord,

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what am I going to do? She's going to die right here and as soon as I said that, I felt this

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energy coming through my hand and I felt her go completely limp. And when I raised my hand,

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there was no more hole in her neck, nothing it was gone. Everybody witnessed it.

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And it freaked her. I was not there. No. But all her brothers were there. It was a weird story to

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come home to though. Yeah, I will say. But there was a lot of witnesses to it, Grant, a UFO

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investigator from Canada. He's one of the most famous out there. He's the one to saw it all. He

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took that picture. I didn't. And there were more pictures of it, of the blood going in the house and

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all. But we couldn't figure out what happened at all. How did she get the hole in her neck? What did that?

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I didn't know who to call, so I called Tim. I said, Tim, the craziest thing just happened

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today. You won't believe this. That's the same dog. It so picks a lady on that screen.

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But anyhow, he told me he said, Chris, he said, maybe the phenomenon was showing you,

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you have a gift that you need to try to do something with. And so that changed my life

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that year. This was 2014. To where it is today. That's what I do. I've done more

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trying to help people who are sick. Then I ever reveal or talk about it. It's every day of my life.

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I have people writing me, people who are sick, people I go and visit and try to help. And I've

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seen some miracles happen. Why may I don't know what calls it? I don't know. But it is. And it happened.

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And immediately, Tim's like, you need to follow this. And that's what got me involved with him

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with his encouragement to help get me to help others. And working on his project, he was working

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on for STEM sales. And it just led from two, three weeks later, a month later, I get a call

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from the guy in that great big house you were wearing it, wondering about. And said, we have a

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child in Washington that's sick. And he's from a prominent family. And we want you to see if you can

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help him. Like, Lord, I don't know what to do. This is all new to me. I have no clue what has

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happened. How did this all happen? Why? You know, what do I do? He said, well, you just need to come

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try. I'm like, well, it's for for July. My family's coming home the weekend. All the kids, we're going

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to do something. He's like, what's more important? You know, hanging out and partying or helping some

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child that is, it's got to make a wish. She's going to die. He's not going to live past 12, 13 years old.

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And I said, well, you got me there. So next day I was on an airplane in Washington and I was sitting

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at that young boy in the bottom right there. To his left is Jim Simmy Van. This whole party,

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this, that was his bar mitzvah, was the heads of the CIA, the director of the...

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My brother. Right. And this is Mike Morrell, the deputy director. This little boy is right in

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their group of people. And so when I got to his house, I was terrified. I don't know what to do.

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I know where to start. You know, I've been asked to do this. What the heck do I do? I don't even know how

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I helped the dog much less to help a child or somebody sick. And so I've sat there with him and his

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mom and dad for several hours just talking and feeling out this situation. And silently praying,

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Lord, help me. You got me into this. How do I deal with this? What do I do? And this boy said,

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not an audible voice, but just something spoke to me and said, just hug him. Just reach out and hug him.

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And so I waited to the perfect time to do so and I reached out and I hugged him real good.

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And he couldn't eat. He couldn't eat. He hadn't been able to eat. Most of his life,

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at all. If he'd eat, he'd throw up. He had this mitochondrial DNA disease, which you put,

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your body just doesn't digest food and get the nourishment from it. So usually they don't live

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past 12, 13 years old or dead. And so he had to make a wish and this group of people pulled around him.

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And he's in college now. He's completely healed. He's fine.

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Wow. Yep.

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And it is a lot more to it in that party right there. You see all these people.

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There are hundreds in there, people, hundreds of Washington, Washington, DC, the most prominent

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intel folks, judges, doctors, cardiologists, his grandpa was their cardiologist.

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And I'm sitting at a table next to Jim's table. There's these big, round white tables with

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cloths with Jewish flags. And it was just a never been to a bar mitzvah. But the table behind me,

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I heard this ruckus in the band. They were dancing just like that. The whole crowd. They

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knew out of party and they were having the best time. I'm sitting watching my children have fun.

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And I heard this ruckus. Next thing I know Jim's wife, Debbie grabs me,

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picks me up basically and pulls me to this other table and says, you got to help this guy.

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And he was slumped over face down. I mean, alcohol completely turned white.

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And they were trying to revive him. Couldn't get him away.

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And they drug me through the crowd. And I put my hands on his shoulders. Very instant. I did. He set up.

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He took a big breath. And they looked at me and said, my God, you saved him. That happened in that party.

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Wow. Yep.

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We're dead. That's happy. In front of these people, imagine.

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That's washing out. How do you how do you even

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deal with that like being you and that happening? Like how how do you even comprehend that?

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I don't. I don't.

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Yeah. That's amazing, man.

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That's helped a lot of people. And he doesn't always talk about it because

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he's afraid of sounding like, you know, that he does special things. He doesn't want the credit for

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it, but he really has put a lot of energy and a lot of effort into helping people.

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Not always in front of people either behind closed doors.

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Right. Most of it is private. He's very emotional when it comes to that. Understandably.

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This little boy. He's in his 20s now. He's a junior in college. Wow.

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Yep.

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But I don't know. I don't know. Dan. I have a clue. It's always interesting when people ask us what

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our experience is, you know, they expect just to say we see UFOs and aliens, but it's so much

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more complicated than that. And it comes down to this sort of thing as well. How do you explain

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that to someone in a 10 minute conversation that it also is so spiritual and there's like a

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healing aspect to it. It's so multifaceted that I don't think people can really wrap their heads

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around it. But if like anyone could try to understand from a base perspective, it's just like

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this is a benevolent spiritual experience that is open to everybody that for some reason we are,

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you know, I guess semi-responsible for sharing and promoting to people.

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Is there... If it were evil, why would he be able to heal people, you know?

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Yeah. But I don't see it as me doing it. It's the phenomenon maybe that you... Whether you're a vessel

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or whether you're doing it, it's like happening around us. And so I'm not saying necessarily you

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have powers or anything, but there is evidence and facts that you for some reason are surrounded

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by healing. And if this were an evil sort of phenomenon, why would this happen? Yeah. Be happening.

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It's really hard to comprehend all of this. I mean, it's so mind blowing. It's incredible.

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It's incredible. And I know we talk about this a little bit last night, but

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there's people who try to gain this or tap into this phenomenon the same way you do.

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Right? Like I know Tim, there's Diana talked about in her new book, How Tim, he has like a protocol

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that he tries to follow to try to like cleanse his spirit and meditate and be in the sunlight

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to where he can sort of people can learn or train themselves to tap into,

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into something else that you are just intuitively, you're already hardwired into it.

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Yeah. And one way or another. Well, that's what they're studying my brain for.

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They know it's connected on the history channel thing to scientists that he's

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can just, you know, Buddhist monks study his 30 years of his life to get to this enlightened

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state. And they said, well, he just goes in and suddenly, this net my fingers and I'm there.

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And I don't understand it. I don't know that I'm even doing that. I just, I don't understand.

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But that's questions I don't know. Right. I try to still wait from that. I just had the,

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I have a mission to share this and the way it comes, you know.

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Well, I can't wait to go out and watch the sky with you guys again today. I'll tell you that much.

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Yeah. Thank you so much for coming on here and sharing the story. We just talked about it

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for like four hours, I think. Yeah. I will link your book, UFO of God below for people to check

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it out. I highly recommend it. One of the most gripping books I've ever read. It's phenomenal.

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I appreciate it. Thank you for writing it. And thanks again. Is there anything else that I should,

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anything else I should tell people about to get to hold you guys or find you guys online?

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Yeah, you can find my website is ufoofgod.com. And there you can find a link to Amazon

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to buy the book or you can go straight to Amazon or wherever books are sold, I guess.

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But you can find me on TikTok. I post about this stuff. My name is Bloodso Baby because I'm the baby,

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you know. So I post stuff relevant to the story on there. And then I have a website

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called Emily Holloway.com where I teach voice. But we do have one announcement before we go and then

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we'll work on. So the also on my website, you can find my Instagram where I post videos.

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A few hundred videos of photos on there. I'll make sure I link all those below. Yeah. And

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I think we can just go ahead and talk about this without getting into any details. This book has been

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is in the process of making a motion picture. Oh wow. Yeah, exciting. Yeah.

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This is our first, we got to go ahead to just say that much and that's all we're allowed to say.

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This is the first time publicly we're admitting that there is a motion picture.

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Teasing me. I can't wait. It's under development right now. Okay.

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Wanted to keep me posted. Remember is it might be three parts, three shows. Wow. Yeah.

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Exciting stuff. See where it goes. Well, cool. I hope I hope this helped get the word out. And

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again, I can't thank you guys enough. Thank you, honestly. I appreciate it. It's wonderful.

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All right. Goodbye world.

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