Transcript: Immaculate Constellation - UFO Whistleblower Goes Public : WEAPONIZED : Episode #74 : PART 1

And we will hear testimony today concerning recent revelations about a

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quarterly secret UAP program whose existence and findings may have been

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improperly withheld from Congress. This is going to be the original document

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about immaculate constellation. Those of us who have been following this very

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closely have been hearing whispers of the words immaculate constellation for a few

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months now. The immaculate constellation, it's a UAP reconnaissance program.

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I can affirm this 100%. What is in here is wild. I mean they're saying I'm

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paraphrasing but reports of F-22 is getting like boxed in by flying

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orbs that they could in shake. There were satellite images or satellite image of a

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football field sized flying saucer hiding in clouds. I have personally walked

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people into members offices for private meetings so they could see eye to eye

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and they could meet. You are the author of what the world knows as the immaculate

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constellation report. It has been allowed to corrupt and infest every aspect

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of our society to serve the interests and whims of a very elite select few.

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The following is an interview with the author of the immaculate constellation

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report that was submitted into congressional record. Is it ironic you have to

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put your face out with us to protect yourself at this point? That's what we're

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doing, right? Yeah. That's what we're doing. This is absolutely what I did not

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want to do. You've worked in secret programs. You've got clearances. You've made

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oaths that you would keep secrets. Let's talk about secrecy in the UAP topic.

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Shouldn't it be secret to some degree? I mean we have there's a race for the

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technology to try to understand it. We have adversary nations who'd love to

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get it ahead of us. Why not keep this stuff secret? Well if it was just

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technology that we are worried about protecting and maintaining military

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advantage, you know there's strong arguments to be made and have successfully

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been made for decades in this country that the American leadership and

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American people seem to be finding acceptable to be left in the dark about

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you know where science, technology and their military is taking them. This isn't

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just technology. This isn't something somebody came up with in a lab and it's

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sensitive because once the cats have the bag anybody can do it.

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Fundamentally this comes from in a secondary to what we've been told is the

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biggest question which is is humanity alone? The answer is no. And the secrecy

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that has been defended is at the cost of in my mind human dignity freedom and

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progress and it is no longer permissible or acceptable in my mind to to

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continue this course to deprive another generation of not just Americans but

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humanity but their birthright to know who they are where they came from and what's

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with us. But you give us a general description of the size of the secrecy

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apparatus. You know we're gonna drill down to this of course about incom in

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a one particular facet of the secrecy that you came across and other parts of

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it but how big of a secrecy apparatus is it? How many stovepipes are there? How

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many people are involved in different ways of keeping this secret confusing the

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public, lying to Congress, lying to the world? Simply put it's a parallel reality.

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The secrecy apparatus is all-pervasive. It is not just in the intelligence

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community governing their world it's not just in the military protecting

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their operations it's not protecting Kirk diplomats and leaders as they

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conduct their work sometimes in very dangerous places. It has been allowed to

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corrupt and infest every aspect of our society to serve the interests and

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whims of a very elite select few and it's been used to intimidate, threaten,

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destroy the lives of people like yourselves who have been doing their job

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keeping their oaths trying to protect their country being true to humanity and

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and paid praises for it. Absolutely. This has been a difficult process for you

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for me and you you know kind of going through this I've seen what you've gone

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through personally with this. You're taking a personal hit like a painful

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risk just talking to us just doing this finally for all this time I think I

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understand why you're explaining something philosophical what you believe about

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the secrecy just personally like what is this step for you to do this like why

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I need to understand why why are you telling this to everybody now now there's

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no short answer it's something you know I have many not even competing but

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parallel motivations but why now look out at the world look inside our country

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we are not headed to a good future you're concerned I am explain the

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concern. Ultimately my biggest fear is what humanity will do to itself out of

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fear and greed and what we have done and we have built a prison around ourselves

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it's invisible but it's not complete and there is still time to maybe alter

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our trajectory have a different future may not be the best one that we had

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hoped for but it's gonna be damn-side better than what they have planned for us.

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You know there's no going back after you tell us this on camera we have this

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conversation there's this is it this is the line in the sand you're about to

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cross over here absolutely I am on a personal level giving up the future that I

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made for myself and was going to try to make for a family I'm proud of what I

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accomplished in my time and government and it's painful to leave the good

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people there and to know that the release in room for people to act according

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to their conscience and our constitutional ideals is on you inside is it your

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belief based on materials things that you've been exposed to that you've

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seen people you've talked to communicated with over a period of a couple of

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years is it your belief that this the technology the race for the technology the

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understanding of the big secret is entirely in the hands of people outside

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the government and not for the benefit of the public or to protect American

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national security it's it's in some other realm in some other hands. I think it's a

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mix you know I think our military you know it's a long historic involvement in

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this so does our intelligence community and our scientific academic community but

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we have as a country allowed ourselves to be penetrated co-opted and corrupted

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by an internationalist force that serves their interests and views nations

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peoples as tools and means to an end. Like a business cabal international

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corporations that have no loyalty to any nation let alone this one that's a

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large part of it I think we go have to go above that too to start to explain

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the degree of the level of deception and the level of commitment they've had

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to maintaining that deception it's above just monetary gain and power they're

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afraid. Georgia I've talked about whistleblowers that come to us and we

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protect them we don't often report on when people come to us we're doing this

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now you know what are the repercussions what people talk about whistleblowers

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being afraid and there's one set of being afraid which is when you're squeezed

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by outside entities you know that are fucking with you which has happened to you

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we'll talk about that but what are they just the legal implications of what

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you're about to talk to us today tell me the gravity right now what are you

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facing what I want our audience to understand what it means for you to talk to us

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right now what could happen to you by hope is that the stakes are not paid out

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but they are life imprisonment and the possibility of execution and you've

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tried all the right ways I've helped you on some of the we've tried you have

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tried all the right right ways to do this but you have something much bigger

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that that is pushing on you that you have to take this next step forward and so

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now I just want people to understand where you're coming from at least say we

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protect whistleblowers when people come to us not everybody goes on camera but

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also just you work currently in departmentist state but maybe he should tell us

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his history yeah let's do a chronological so you got a degree in what so I got

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a degree in international affairs came out to DC started working in a small

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think tank from there I applied to and was accepted to a intelligence agency

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ended up taking a job at the at the Pentagon basically waiting for the right

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opportunity for that world to pop up what was which one it did I you know

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was having too much fun as I said no you're in the Pentagon weapons of

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mass destruction as a general umbrella under which you're you're working did

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you got a security clearance at that point yeah I had been cleared of idea with

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for a top secret uh SCI clearance you get to see I guess firsthand all this

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different information that comes in from all over these places different platforms

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and right you're exposed to that you get an idea of just how big that apparatus is

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yes yes absolutely UFOs and aliens aside it's a it's a different world

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without anything exotic in it when you are exposed and to that information and

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learning over time not just from the intelligence but the experiences of the

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people around you because not everything that's true and has happened in the

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world is written down on paper I mean you've given a lot of roles and

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responsibilities that gives you access to very sensitive information when you

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said SCI that's secret compartmentalized information is the acronym sensitive

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sense of mentalized information I was yeah it's probably yeah so you know

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that me but I'm just saying you know you are a sane human being you're given a

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lot of these responsibilities um you know you I just think it's important for

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people to understand so you have access to very critical information through

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the United States government the separate from the UFOs and the alien you know

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topic that we're gonna talk about for the world for the world US and the world

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yes and that weighs heavy on you I'm sure like you're you're really looking to

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defend the United States of America where you live and you are looking at

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information that is just highly sensitive I think it's important for people to

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know good people like you doing great jobs in there you had access and

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responsibilities people trust you we yes that that's you can't get there without

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that it is yeah it's a very burdensome role I feel deeply for the people who

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have been there for many years a lot of hidden suffering that comes from it but

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it is you know I thought it was a noble and good mission I still do and risks

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I imagine there's all kinds of information that comes across your desk and

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that desk of other people you're working with at that point about weapons of

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mass destruction the movement of nuclear weapons or suddenly material that

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disappears and where did it go black market biological weapons research things

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that are going on around the world that we need to keep an eye on right yeah

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things that never make the news you're absolutely right yeah there there is

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I guess that there is a whole many there's many worlds there's many shells to

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our reality that the public including our professional media class our

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professional academic class our political class has absolutely no idea

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exists and if they do have an idea they have a very distorted one sometimes

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intentionally so I mean you're not like some secret agent you're not let's

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some say secret agent so like so people understand when you're working at

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the Pentagon is where we're out in the thing I mean this is we have a lot of

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great people that are bright-minded working on these problems for the United

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States is keeping the United States safe looking at geopolitical aspects of

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nuclear weaponry that kind of thing but just to be clear I mean you're not

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the some secret agent with more access than anybody else or anything like that

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no I never wanted to be a field officer I danced with the idea and my dream is

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maybe and read the books but I knew that wasn't for me especially the the task

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and the cost of befriending and manipulating and ultimately using people I don't

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think I would have been very good at that the human intelligent right yeah false

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friendship exactly does that stuff come across your desk human intelligence

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signals intelligence regarding weapons of mass all sources all and sources

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intelligent all sources of intelligence and if there are questions you can go

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ask them and usually get the answers and the kinds of things that you see that

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come across your desk does it give you pause how am I going to sleep that I know

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in that this XYZ is going on somewhere at times when they think oh we do grab

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how did this happen everyone has like their different standard of what's going

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to you know shake them like that and I've definitely had a few of those I won't

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share them but yeah but I mean just with security bring national security kind

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of stuff right stuff unrelated to exotic things that are very yeah just

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roll that there okay you're there for a while you do that for how many years oh

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see as they're a little over four years but I was independent on a little

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over five so I moved out of there briefly into the undersecretary defense for

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intelligence and a smaller office in there we've heard of that office we have

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heard of that office what what was a different sort of work or the same thing

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just for a different both same field different work different boss different

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community so you're working for a contractor but you're working at the Pentagon

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on Pentagon business and that's sort of a model that is used for all kinds of

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programs right yeah that's that's the industry in DC is that they have a buffer of

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some sort why why is it why is that as well you have government management and

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they're supposed to be the ones that you know they sign the checks make the

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final decisions but yet most of the staff is contractors military people on

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detail people on fellowships from you know either think tanks or universities

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um so you get to be familiar with snowpipes and how you know you could be

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working on this and the guy may be in the office next year or the desk next

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year is working on something else and you don't know what they're working on yeah

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I mean that you can be that way my experience was more that we had a team it

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was all more or less on the same information level but then there'd be other

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teams that yeah they have their own so it's not quite as isolated I've heard from

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others it can be just you know it's you and no one else around you knows

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what you're doing you got a company it's a contractor that's working there in

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the Pentagon how much oversight is there for me actual Pentagon the military

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of contractors work well I mean the day-to-day is overseen by the government

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so in that sense it's it's there and is that generally true for all the

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contractor programs that will be getting into later that somebody in the

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military or IC is is looking at what the contractor does no I couldn't say

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right yeah I could not say we got to the one degree and then you you went on to

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try to get a master's yeah I went to George Washington University of

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masters of security policy study got to the point where I had a thesis to

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submit and then I started working at the Pentagon that took a break and kind of

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caught up in the chair and as the term is right I'm curious about just what it's

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like to work at the Pentagon I mean to think you're driving to work there it is

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the heart and soul of the national security of our country you're doing

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important work weapons of mass destruction in the biggest office building in the

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world I would think it'd be a lot of satisfaction in that but I wonder what

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day-to-day is like are you under surveillance do you have to do polygrapes can

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you tell your wife what you're doing do you socialize with colleagues or do you

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have to worry about what you say to whom and where yeah so I mean started with

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the first part I think for me at least yeah it was what I finally made it right I'm

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at working out the Pentagon I it's cheesy but I felt pride pretty much every

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single day that I rolled in there that's not cheesy and it was I was very

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fortunate to join a in office that cared a lot about their people not just

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their performance at work but their goals their desires and how they were

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getting on with life in general few places are like that but I look back on

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that time with a lot of with a lot of happiness how do things begin to

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sour is it because of this topic that we're going to discuss yes let's take it

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from there what when does that start what what's your first exposure I mean

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we like a UFO guy like before I mean like there's something that happened

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and there was an instigator right but it's like you know we like a UFO guy all

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your years back or not to some degree I've always been interested in aliens

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and UFOs secret histories the things that are hidden from us it's been a

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lifelong kind of passion it's not always aliens you know it's while I was always

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interested in these things they were never they were only a realm of possible

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and when I looked at UFOs in a serious way as I was more in my like college years

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and I got just not exposure but the you started learning about the sort of

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ecosystem of secrecy in the military industrial complex what saps are what

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caps are and you start to realize like oh yeah there's a good chance a lot of

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what these UFO things are some really cool stuff that we have whether it's in

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the air under the water or right in front of you you're not getting a job at

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the Pentagon because you want to get access to the UFO signal no when I joined I

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thought you know I pretty much locked down that you know there might be life

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out there but most I think most what we're seeing in the sky is at that time I

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thought was either hours or ally or adversary you don't go over the deep end

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you're not going to move on conferences you're not worth a beanie and alien

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stuff on your head no no in fact you know I would be looked at like I had a

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third eye just by suggesting they were stealth satellites I mean in fact like

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you've never been to like a UFO conference and they're like that have you no

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right that's not your style no you're very analytically minded person it's

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something I've learned I bet you're fucking really good at your job because

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just the way our communications the way you deep dive into research that's a

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talent to be able to pull a big source information all source information and

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kind of come to conclusions you that you that is one of your skill sets

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yeah absolutely did you ever want to identify because you're kind of a work

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to haul it right and you go over the top yeah yeah you know I really liked the

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Pentagon I learned an immense amount there and I would stay there till the

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wee hours of the morning learning which is also how you found out information

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about the topic topic rendered to start out to deeply and it you came across

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this sort of accident 100% accidentally well sorry the Immaculate

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constellation piece of this 100% accidentally before I was exposed to that

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to know I had seen UAP on military videos in the Pentagon but nothing that

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suggested you know origin intense or in the level detail that you know I came

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to find later you know I had so explain that to the average with like how do you

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just come across UFO videos in the Pentagon what does that mean yeah what tell

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somebody who has no idea how that happens so you have a clearance and there's a

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secret internet and on that secret internet there's just a generic access like

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you and I it's all very secret sensitive stuff but more or less everyone can

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look at what's on there then you know you have on this secret internet some

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compartmentation light compartmentation as it were and then there's entirely

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different systems for truly truly sensitive stuff but the point is is that

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there is essentially you know a shared shared community of knowledge and it

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goes back you know just like our own internet it goes back over decades you

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have a top secret clearance you go on J-Wix you can pretty much go and see

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whatever is on there except for special compartmentalized stuff yeah pretty

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much or things that you know are just people protect their business

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processes so who would be putting UFO type or UAP videos on there how does that

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happen how do they end up there service members and intelligence officers who

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for one reason or another decided to put that footage there what's the first

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UFO video see what what do you think of it or military film footage of a UFO

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what what did you what was that like well technically the first true like

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military footage was that I saw was that tick-tax video and the go fast video

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and I think there's one other else the gimbal video that all came out in

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2017 granted I didn't see those on military systems but just being a

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precise here yeah and so things that I saw after that kind of looked like all

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that but just a much more duration that the videos you know it's the internet

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whether it's secret or not there's compression there's upload and file sizes

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so some things are crystal clear but it's only 15 seconds some things you can

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see 45 minutes of something moving around but it's kind of blurry because that's

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a lot of data so you've seen crystal clear at times videos of what appear to be

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would you say non-human intelligence made crafting what you see evidence that

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the the rest of the world doesn't get to see that starts happening yeah nothing

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in those videos necessarily proves it's extra terrestrial or non-human

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certainly is anomalous exotic and unexplainable and advanced yes beyond our

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capabilities that you know I don't know some of it might have might have been

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art with within our capabilities to replicate even in in in theory manner but

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quite a lot of it you know it's either something else or we live in a

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world where we have been left behind 2017 these stories come out New York

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times and other media the videos become known that sparked your curiosity and

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you start looking around for that kind of stuff or it would just come across

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your desk and in front of your eyes naturally yeah so not looking for that

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stuff did you have access to live feeds yes so live feeds real time you could

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go into like a reaper drone and see if there's something going on just I mean

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not that you're specifically looking for UFOs but you had access even to live

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feeds yeah you know not anything special no special access but you know you you

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know where those resources are you can go look at them and I did I want to go

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back to this you said these nuclear facilities nuclear weapons nuclear labs

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nuclear power plants within a year or two like are you saying all of them get

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visited or there's some strange phenomena I can't say that they all do but I

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would I would suspect that you know anything that is sufficiently nuclear

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we'll draw attention at some point and will be they will be encountering

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and what are they what what do you see it what what kinds of things are you seeing

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so I mean nothing too dramatic when it comes to like these facilities a lot of

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time this is Forbes of you know it's hard to always judge the size but I'd be

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surprised if it's bigger than a SESNA probably something somewhere between

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whether it's white or silverish or if you're looking through different sensor

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apparatus it'll you know look like whatever hot or cold is but usually orbs

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around these facilities sometimes things that look a bit more irregular but the

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vast majority being orbs I mean the world's been exposed to some of this

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there's been a clarification to the general public about what are you seeing when

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you're seeing infrared or flare it takes some translation there are people that

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focus on that and like they can read that but basically you're looking at things

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that don't have flight control surfaces that don't have traditional

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propulsion they seem to tag along with which we've heard forever with nuclear

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events that kind of thing nuclear structure but you see a lot of these

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trucking exposed them I mean just to begin doesn't that does that start or

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doesn't that start to kind of feed that curiosity in you you just all the

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sudden the average person that you're now seeing stuff that you can't yeah you

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have to be a special kind of boring to not be interested after screw those

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states it's shocking especially knowing the context of what you're looking at

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right which you get when you have those systems that can look at that 100% what's

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the context with the big picture like what's what's the content yeah and then this

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in this way it you seeing images is their discussion as their text that

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comes along with us hey we saw this thing what the hell is it it's not us

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surprisingly little of that I think the community kind of knows we're new we

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don't talk about this it's there you know that changed some years ago but it's

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since been I think shut down again in terms of like you know community

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participation and solving the problem so people within intelligence

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community know you don't talk about this out loud you don't say the quiet part

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out loud you post stuff you kind of get then you get an era of discussion when

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this starts coming for 2017 New York Times story but then you're you're

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explaining that there's been a kind of clamp down on that dialogue and

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discussion I've heard that from a lot of people on the inside you witnessed

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that too yes absolutely both firsthand and from you know hearing from friends

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and connections yes the screws were tightened and certain agencies you're

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not allowed to mention certain whistleblower's names or you'll be fired

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immediately so there's no announcement of the PA system there's no leaflets

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left in the cafeteria and no memo put out says don't talk about this stuff but

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you know yeah yeah you pick up on that vibe real quick when you say there's

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certain whistleblowers names you can't mention this brings me back to a friend

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of ours went when George is doing his news report on Bob Lazar first time

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was gonna air he just said when he was up at area 52 he just said hey you should

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pay attention to the news his career was over he get pulled into room the next

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day I call him a friend of ours I'm I interviewed him about it I mean that was

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done he just mentioned that to watch George's news report again we're not

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equating Bob Lazar to to anything we're just saying that happened so what do

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you mean if you mentioned certain whistleblowers who who David Grush you can't

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mention David Grush in certain professional settings or you are fucked yeah

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if you're not fired you are in for a very rough time as my understanding

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Elisando you know I didn't hear Elisando is a no-go word saying David

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look David Grush testified in calm open Congress so that makes sense so you what

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have you seen it happen if you seem people like mention his name how do you

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become aware you can't even talk about him so that specific example yeah

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for a friend at that agency that was essentially the word of mouth from

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management nothing written in paper nothing in emails but what it sounds like

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people got a conversation with their leadership and we're told as much as

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we just got over and to his name was absolutely the first end experience sort

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of radioactive in the chat room so it would either all of a sudden these people

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that never participate are there really slamming him slamming the people

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talking about him in the class about internet indeed our spaces when we talk

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about about these these were people had open dialogue it just got a

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clamp down and his name was part of that that's what you meant when you said

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certain people are radioactive you can't mention their names right okay good

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us and good yeah we're no we're nuclear he's ready to act with different

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designation yeah so you're seeing these videos and some limited discussion you

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can't really openly talk about it but you're curious you're kind of hooked on

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the topic yeah and to be clear uh 2018 when this first exposure happened and for

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about a few years after it was more it did at least feel more open looking back

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on it this was probably a counterintelligence prerogative at the time but it

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was allowed to exist the discussion was allowed to exist and it felt more like

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you know people were excited to finally actually be able to talk about this

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and finally be able to try to compare notes figure it out well it's when the

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UAP task force was created they didn't call it that but it was up and running

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and they were trying to make and treat ease out to the intelligence community and

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DOD hey they wanted input from and farmers yeah so I saw that emerge and I saw it

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die it's not die mm-hmm when you say exposure we're gonna get into this but you

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mean it technically it's called spillage it's when you see something that is

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of a compartmentalized or nature that you are not specifically clear to see and

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you were exposed to something and it was like holy shit what is this and the first

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thoughts that I'm interested in so for at that point yeah okay so let's talk

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about that look the whole world that knows about imcon a maclit

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constellation we're saying that word out loud at one time that was very

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dangerous to say out loud to write to text we should talk about that but before

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this is your gateway this is the the entrance point what happened how did it

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happen what did you see what did you think yeah so the first exposure or the

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exposure to a maclit constellation happened on a shared server that was

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shared by all the offices in OSD what I was doing throughout what I was doing

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at the time was opening files that were clearly misfiled and either sorting

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them to our offices you know part of that server or putting them in their own

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box to be sorted by other response for your jobs I mean this is more like

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volunteer duty but yes so because you're a workaholic and you're curious and you

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read a lot you come across a file that really is what leads us to be here

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today it's this it's the Shriver file yeah so there's labeled 2018 Shriver

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War Game might have been brief or something else but that's it there's nothing

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about that that screams you know it's a very interesting thing in fact usually a

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lot of war game briefs are pretty boring so there's nothing that stood out

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about it accidental exposure for you 100% you go and do it and what do you see

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there's just a generic title slide there's a banner without classification

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markings that just says a maclit constellation and it has a place holder

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slide that shows like the Shriver Warbit or Shriver Airbase logo and some logos

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of the units involved but at that time I believe it would have still been

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like Air Force Base Command adjacent so still nothing particularly stunning I

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think the name at the top probably just the name of the exercise so the next

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slide though is where it gets interesting because the face of Luel Azondo is on

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that next slide and I was not who I was expecting to see and it was accompanied

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by text to summarize please have some grace with me it's been seven years

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but it was saying that immaculate constellation is an unannolled special

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access program established after the exposure of atip in 2017 by former USDI

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officer Luel Azondo and you know that that's the gist of that first slide and so

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I'm looking at that and you know nothing particularly

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convincing that that's alien related or what the sap is or what it's doing so I

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don't know what to make of this so I read the whole thing and yeah it got

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very interesting very quick so it's designated a sap you know this is a sap

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it's sitting on a server maybe it shouldn't be on correct right so I think

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that's important and also it seems like it's just a response to the public

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spillage or exposure that we saw come forward with people like and

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specifically Luel Azondo this was like an internal classified response to the

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fact oh shit some of this is out now yeah that's exactly the tone of those

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words of that slide the implied order of events that led to being established

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is like 2018 maybe yeah the the file was at least last accessed in 2018 I can't

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remember if it did say you know the file creator if I looked it up but I know

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it was last accessed and you see who's accessed it prior to you I can't and and

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what did you see so everyone says that I'm wrong it's impossible but the name I

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recall and recalled at the time thinking oh that's odd was name redacted and

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did you know who that was vaguely at that time I you know people are

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considered superstars in leadership circles so you just hear names like that

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that's what her name was why would that be impossible why are people now in

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retrospective why are people telling you that would be impossible oh she wasn't

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at the Pentagon then where was she she was at the Pentagon to my knowledge but

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they're saying she wasn't there right interesting so all right so Shriver

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war games use keep reading there's a big slide with Luel Azondo's face on it

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what comes next I mean I you get a sense that I shouldn't be able to read this

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here no not yet actually to be clear at that point time I had no formal

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training in what saps were there was no sap marking on this just a name a

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maplich constellation the opening slide you know just we would call it improperly

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labeled improperly classified what was it what what did you know so the the next

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slide the third slide about just jumps straight into the mission of the sap

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and showing what you know apparently the results of that mission are and it's a

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a collection incident in the Pacific Ocean the subject of collection is several

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Russian naval intelligence vessels in the middle of the ocean at night and

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above those vessels is a large black triangle floating in the air this is a

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still image but it is color okay so that's the first kind of event but what was

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the mission what was the mission is that's what people want to know is what was

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the mission of the maplich constellation as described in the product so in the

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product itself you had to piece together the mission by reading the whole thing

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and kind of putting together the parts you know it never spelled out fully like

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as it should the mission of the sap and I assume that's because this is a type of

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brief where there will be inserts to the deck which would be inserted by the

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sap control officer during the briefing that would provide another level of

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detail but based on the information included in there and its description the

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mission becomes apparent and that is a bare minimum it's the intelligence

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surveillance and reconnaissance mission of a global nature for UAPs and RVs

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ARVs the hesitation there is sometime has passed one of those acronyms is in

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there either RV or ARV and that is how the triangle in this case was labeled

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been seven years so as you're reading through this and that you're remembering

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RV or ARV just for our audience so RV is you know

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reverse reproduction vehicle and the ARV would mean

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and you know we see you know people in the literature say alien reproduction

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vehicle could just be anomalous a ban so or it can be anything that can go

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after a you so you don't know what that is by don't this is a pretty interesting

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image here it is and then the text of the company is it describes the incident

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and what you tell us yeah the summary of that is just the how how it unfolded

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I should actually back up and say the image itself was unique this isn't by a

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plane or satellite it looks to be a image pretty close to the water line so

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something that to me red is we have a clandestine submersible asset close by

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this fleet and it's taking pictures so trying to stay unnoticed and so yes in

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the description it basically lays out what what occurred that night which was

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that the RV collection assets were there in area monitoring Russian naval

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vessels not sure what they're doing there but they've been hanging out in the

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middle of the ocean in this place apparently for a few days keeping on them and

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this night while they are observing the Russian vessels a large black triangle

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materializes or decloaks or something the point is is it did not move it appeared

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above the directly above these ships probably no more than 200 meters pretty

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close and interestingly as noted in the report itself there is no visible

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reaction from these vessels from what would almost certainly be considered a

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hostile approach what do you what do you take away from that they didn't notice

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it or they're not upset about it or they don't know what to do with it or what

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so the implication also in the text describing it was or sorry I should say

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the analysis in the text was that the Russian Navy had four knowledge that this

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vehicle would appear in that area of the ocean and they were there specifically

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to either collect on it themselves or to interact with it in some way any

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indication that it might be there that they knew it's going to be there because

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they control it not in that documents and I haven't seen anything to make me

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think that they controlled that particular craft but didn't see anything of

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the contrary either I guess it could be that they've seen it before that there's

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nothing they can do about it so don't get excited about it might be although it

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is interesting you know if it's something that's part of their environment as

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it were why are they making an effort to be in this space at this time to

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collect on something they already know about is it like in the middle of nowhere

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yeah it's off the coast of Camp Chautka is as I recall in the Pacific Ocean

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that's what struck me my mind goes to the idea that they were kind of camped out

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you know deep kind of ocean in this one specific area durationally it kind of

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implies to me if I'm thinking outside the box here there's some form of

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comms or communication with whoever the operators are of this craft am I going

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too far with that idea I think it's a reasonable one to have but it's not one

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that I can like validate yeah let's be clear you were exposed to something we're

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just touching you know the basics here we're we're theorizing we're talking

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about a bunch of stuff we don't know but the descriptions that you were exposed

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to kind of give you a little insight that we can at least look at some of those

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assumptions right right absolutely and I'm sure there's a literature out there

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that can help narrow down so immaculate constellation you've never heard this

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term before and it doesn't give you the full picture there but what other

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additional information that it give about what this was and how it operates

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just describe the events and that analysis of the event of the Russians having

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foreknowledge to be there and describing how the event occurred as I just

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whenever so this is a page turner so he you know you're interested yeah you're

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curious now absolutely what do you do next when you go to the next page and it

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was disappointing because we get into a couple slides of orbs and I had already

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seen orbs at this point in the official setting so the next pages show orbs

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from different parts of the world who it looks like the pattern is that there's

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that under this immaculate constellation they're gathering UAP images from all

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over the play absolutely I mean that's the core of it right right is the idea

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that we collect data on these UAP and someone needs to bring them co-ulate

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them together to provide intel to who needs it and we're assuming or not

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assuming it's been pretty laid out the mac it constellation was a kind of

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place to bring everything together to provide those briefings to senior

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leadership is that correct I don't know about to provide briefings but definitely

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to collect data from the military intelligence enterprise specifically and

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the sensors associated with that and yes to to collect that data centralize

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it and have it there for presumably both analysis and you know the operational

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needs the Schreiber War games document with the images 12 pages 15 pages

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somewhere in there yeah it's a yeah 12 to 15 but probably more like yeah 12 and

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is that the only document you oversaw were the term immaculate constellation was

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used until I wrote one down I will get into that but I said like go through

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people be so curious so what comes on the fourth page talk through the

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pages just go ahead on the next episode of weaponized when I was in USDI I

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read the transcripts of Sean Patrick of briefing Senator Rubio Senator Warren

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and Senator Gillibrand on the results of his investigation in his

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congressional task to arrow report you know I read these transcripts once and

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immediately knew that

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yeah veiled threat no I knew that I was now something else I was in I had

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inside knowledge into the deception of our government by elements of our

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intelligence community my blood ran cold a specific point in that

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transcript where mr. Rubio is discussing the legacy program this was a

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subject of direct discussion with Sean Kirk Patrick in these meetings and

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based on mr. Kirk Patrick replies about as vague as they were unable to escape

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the truth of the legacy program mr. Rubio's response was well what the hell is

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the executive branch doing have they been running this for 60 years without

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congressional oversight the process of grouch coming forward left a

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wake on the inside to people were tracking that weren't even involved but we're

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able to see sort of the distortions on the inside distortions of truth exactly

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and but also you know bureaucracies and offices behaving weirdly that was one of

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the moments that really started to convince me that this was this was not under

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under our government's control

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