Thoughts on David Grusch's UFO Claims

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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So you were saying that you're on the fence off the fence?
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Yeah, the bug rush.
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The story I was hearing is it's just a lot.
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I'm going to skip a lot of it.
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But what I was reading and slash what they were saying
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is that one possibility that could be going on is there is in,
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I think we're taking it some of Graham Hancock stuff too.
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If people were around on Earth 500,000 years ago,
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in some way, there was some split and a second set of humans
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continued on.
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And we're like in this interdimension space
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where they're both happening simultaneously.
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And that's where, like, if he was saying this?
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No, no, no.
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This is from the, I'm gathering this all from like that video.
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I'm adding in some of Graham Hancock stuff too,
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because this kid didn't also interview him.
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Jesse Michaels on his on his podcast.
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OK.
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And I'm talking about some of the same stuff.
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But something they said in the grouch interview
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on his podcast was that an idea would be that these people
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exist on a split timeline from us.
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Like we had cataclysm and died and repopulated and whatnot.
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Now we've ended in this place in 2023 with combustion engines
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and we're flying around.
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These people would have been in a different anti-gravity.
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Who knows what they figured out?
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And they went somewhere else?
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I think, they're not even saying that.
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This is where, like, they're not going to talk about,
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they haven't talked about that.
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But I think what they're saying or getting at maybe
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is that they're here.
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And that's why the nuclear thing is so important to them.
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They're on the same planet as us.
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And if we blow up the planet, it goes away from them.
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So they're here.
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We just don't know where they are.
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And that's where the interdimensional thing comes in.
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That's what I'm gathering out of what I've heard.
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How are you when you came over to say it?
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It's not, I don't think I'm saying it's my theory.
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This is what they're saying.
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And Grush is sort of like, that's an interesting thing
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you're saying.
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He's not confirming it with the marine thing.
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But it was a lot to take in.
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That's definitely for sure.
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It's all a lot to take in.
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David Grush is that UFO whistleblower
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that testified in front of Congress.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to say, man, the thing about it
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is I believe he's telling the truth as far
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as what he's experienced and the documents that he uncovered
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and the people that he talked to.
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But how do you know whether or not they're just using him
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as a useful idiot to just get out some silly story
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because they're covering up for the fact
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that there's some very advanced drone system
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that the United States government has
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that are trying to keep under wraps.
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Right.
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It might be bolted.
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I think it's probably bolt things.
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Well, here's the thing.
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You're out in the woods all the time.
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You ever see a UFO?
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No.
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Ever see Bigfoot?
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No.
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Have you ever talked to a hunter that's seen a UFO?
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No.
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Ever talked to a hunter that's seen Bigfoot?
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I talked to, so really?
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The guys down at St. Carlos, the Apache reservation,
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they said they've seen stuff.
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Okay.
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Were they on peyote?
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I don't know.
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I know all those Indians don't get down.
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I don't think so.
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I mean, I don't, and it's been like multiple times.
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What kind of stuff?
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Like square, like something square flying.
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Oh, interesting.
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Yeah.
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Because that is the thing that they describe, right?
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It's a square with a sphere inside of it.
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Like a block, no, the opposite.
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Yeah.
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A sphere with a black square.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I was fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I don't know anybody other than that.
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That's a, that's the first story I've heard from somebody who I have talked to.
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Well, that kind of makes sense.
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Yeah.
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That thing they do spot, that's a common one.
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Some flying square inside a sphere, like a translucent sphere.
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And that's like legitimate pilots have seen that.
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That's a weird one.
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Right.
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Because that, my theory, and this is totally unfounded without any research whatsoever,
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it's just, it's the best kind.
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This is my favorite con theory.
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My theory is that they have this ability to make something move in this insane way with
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gravity, but they can't put a body in it and they can't put weapons in it.
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They can't, it's just an object that they can get to move at insane rates of speed.
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That's what I think.
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I think the military applications of this thing have yet to be figured out.
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But I think they do have something that can do things that we have no knowledge of.
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But at the United States government is probably, they probably have in their possession something
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that was either back engineered from something from somewhere else or something that they
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developed in a completely top secret environment with the top research scientists probably
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during the wars during World War II and III or III.
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That's impending.
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And in Iraq and Afghanistan, they think about the amount of money that gets funneled through
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the government.
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And they don't, I mean, didn't the Pentagon just for the sixth year in a row fail their
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audit?
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I imagine if you failed your audit six years ago.
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Yeah.
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Or they crawl up your ass with a fucking microscope.
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I think was that what it was?
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David passed it.
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But yeah, they did correct it just say failed six audit with number.
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Passing great.
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So there's a lot of money flowing around as my point.
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And who knows how much of that money is going to these secret programs that we don't know
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about?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I know.
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And if they did that and they did have the top scientists and if I was the fucking president
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and I was the chief of staff and I was running the Pentagon, I would want the best scientist.
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So I'd recruit the best scientists and I'd say, hey, you know, this is national security
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security.
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We're working on this project.
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It uses gravity propulsion, shut the fuck up.
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Yeah.
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Don't tell everybody, but you get to work on some cool shit.
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Yeah.
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And you get paid a lot of money.
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You get paid a lot of money.
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And you get to be a part of one of the most insane discoveries in human history.
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So this is what we're working on.
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Yeah.
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I think that's likely to.
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But then you got to go back to like the food fighters from the 1940s and the crash at
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Roswell and that you also have to be open to the possibility that like, look, there's
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a lot of planets out there.
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It's very possible that we're not alone.
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