Transcript: Steven Greer: “UFO Secrets Are Held By A Global Cabal”

You're dealing with weapons that would make hydrogen bomb look like a tinkertoy.

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It's the largest criminal corrupt organization in the history of the earth.

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Those people have a price. Yeah. And either blackmail, threats, or money.

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Reposition. I said sit on it and rotate.

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Why are you so controversial? Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish the story. You

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keep interrupting me, but I will tell you if you'll let me finish. The really high tech stuff,

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they slammed into a box. It would liberate every home, every car, every factory, every country.

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Yeah. Into energy independence, no pollution, and no poverty. Here's a warning to you,

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money-grubbing horrors. It's gonna be open sourced. So I've been doing this for one hell of a long

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time since I was 35. I thought everything that went bump in the night was alien. I did. And it wasn't

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until I started having people come for a ruse. Oh, we piloted these. And then I had guys come

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forward who had actually been on the abduction spot. They looked like aliens. Whoa. And they said,

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I don't know. You met people who like committed those crimes. Wow. Yeah. And they feel terrible

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later in life. The folks who know about this, they need to come clean truthfully soon. This is

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getting very serious right now. Whether you're in Congress, the Senate, the public, or someone on

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your podcast, they need to be arrested and tried for treason and sedition against United States.

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Does that involve storming Area 51 and Doug Lee and the right pad? Or what is this involved? Literally.

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This week's long-awaited American Alchemist is Dr. Stephen Greer. Love him or hate him. This

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medical doctor turned UFO truth-seeker has played a big part in modern disclosure that can't be

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ignored. If you are trying to get closer to the truth, you just can't really throw out his

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foundational research, the disclosure project archive and his whistleblower testimonies.

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He's gathered more first-hand UFO witnesses than anyone on the planet and humanity owes him a

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debt for that. In my opinion, speaking to Dr. Greer is like painting for gold. If you get past

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some of his antics, there's a ton of value there. I've been told by people not to do this interview

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because of those antics. I don't really care for being told who I should and shouldn't speak with.

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Talking to someone on a podcast is not in any way an endorsement of all of their beliefs,

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so I decided to sit down with him. The one caveat I will include here is Dr. Greer goes after

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just about everybody in UFO world and hurls out a ton of ad hominem. If I had tried to perfectly

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referee all of his accusations, this would have turned into an unintelligible and endless argument

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about who the bad faith actors are in UFO world. Although I generally agree with him, there are

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probably many. So instead, I tried to show appreciation for his incontrovertible contributions to

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UFO disclosure and to learn what I could from him. So without further ado or disclaimers,

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please enjoy this special long-form episode with this week's American Alchemist, Dr. Stephen Greer.

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I'm here with Dr. Stephen Greer. I'm so excited to do this. This has been a long time coming for me

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because I've explored a lot in UFO world and you are really responsible for a lot of disclosure.

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I mean, most of the whistleblowers who've come out have had a touch point with you before they've

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gone public. And so disclosure project is your kind of organization. You have an archive with

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terabytes of data documents that go incredibly deep on the cover-up. You've also made a couple

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of great movies, unacknowledged the last century about suppressed science. And the new one

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that just came out, the battle for disclosure. And the battle for disclosure. And then you've given

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me this incredible this briefing. For the president, we cleaned it up, redacted things,

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and made it available to the public so everyone can get it now. So you'll have 90 plus percent

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of what the new president has. That's pretty awesome. The disclosure project briefing document

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25. So have you spoken to Trump or his team? I can't talk about the who, the names. But very senior

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people relevant to this issue and national security, yes. So it seems the election happened

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even before. So some of his closest advisors and major funders have been on my team and are

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supportive of this. And some of them that are new to that world and just to be clear to everyone,

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I'm nonpartisan. So I've dealt with all the way back to Clinton and the Obama and John Podesta,

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all the way forward and now. So my institute and the disclosure project is completely a nonpartisan

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has to be. And only nonpartisan is global because I do the same thing for Europe, Australia,

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Great Britain. I was just in Great Britain in September. So we're a sigurously, carefully nonpartisan.

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With that said, this administration, I think the first administration since Bill Clinton tried

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to fix this problem in his first term is most open to perhaps pursuing it. We'll see.

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That would be very exciting. Well, this brings up this kind of perennial question because I think

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a lot of people associate this topic with the quote unquote deep state. And they also associate

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Bill Clinton with the quote unquote deep state. And so how deep is the deep state that deals with

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this topic? If you have Bill Clinton kind of knocking on the door of the program and not getting

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led in, what are we talking about as far as a power structure here? Well, it's exactly what

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Eisenhower described when he went out of office in 61. In January of 61, he left and Jack Kennedy

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came in and he said, but where the military industrial complex will become a threat to our way

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alive and excessive secrecy will destroy democracy. I'm paraphrasing, but you can read the speech.

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The same thing that Jack Kennedy said in a number of speeches. And then we know for a fact,

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and I know the people will have the actionable intelligence on this. Jack Kennedy was killed over

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this issue. And the constellation of programs attached to G-A-P's and particularly the science and

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technology branch of it, which we'll get into. That's two big pillars here keeping it secret.

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They want people to go out publicly and we know who they are who will spend the subject in the

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direction of it being an alien threat. For the purpose of a totalitarian superstate uniting the

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world against aliens, which is a total hoax in nonsense. And that's like the movie Independence

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Day or the War of the Worlds or whatever. Like when Will Smith goes, well, it's a alien butt.

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That whole script was like at a CIA central scripting casting. Not that Will Smith is. He's a great guy.

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It was reached out to us and very interested. But I think that the trajectory of this goes back

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to the late 50s probably earlier. But definitely the decapitation of the presidency happened

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on Eisenhower's watch. And we know that Jackie Gleason knew this and some people that my early days

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as a young doctor when I first started this, I got to know some people who had known Eisenhower.

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Like one of our whistleblowers way back then, when we kicked off the whole disclosure project

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effort in the mid-90s, it was called Project Starlight Covename, we were private. And then it went

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public in 01 with the National Press Club that had 800 million people see it. And then 9-11

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happened a few months later as a direct consequence, which we don't want to get into that much. But

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this was going to get blown wide open. Interesting. They had to have, they had needed a diversion. So

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they created something called 9-11 and there's written stuck in that world for 20 years. But what's

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fascinating about this so-called deep state is that it wasn't carryover out of World War II.

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And it started when a man who was one of the original founders of CIA,

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Alan Dulles, it was OSS during World War II. The other thing was a guy named Paul Mellon.

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Yeah. Mellon was one of the few billionaires in the world at the end of World War II.

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I mean, a million, having billions of dollars in 45. Yeah, what an amazing. So Paul Mellon's grandson

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who is John Warner the fourth, the son of Senator John Warner. I got to know years ago. And he said,

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look, first time I walked into his house, at the Watergate, it's a huge place on the water. And

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John Warner the fourth, not his father, the Senator Warner, but John Warner. I walk in, he goes,

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oh, my whole family were fascists. I went, what? He says, oh yeah. So his grandfather, Paul

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Mellon, so Warner, his father had married Paul Mellon's daughter. So it's very familial. This runs

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family back way back. And he said, yeah, I mean, he was a huge supporter of Adolf Hitler and fascism.

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So it was Henry Ford. So it was Watson of IBM. So these were all hard cords. So it was Prescott

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Bush, George H. W. Bush's dad. They were known to be big supporters of fascism. They were at like

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Union Bank, Brown Brothers, Haramon, and then all that. Chase Manhattan, the whole thing.

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So that was, went put into kind of stasis for a few years to eat one, I call it the battle

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or war two. And then those people sort of covertly surfaced after war two. Well, there's a

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story of John Warner the fourth, and he's having martinis, I believe, with Paul Mellon.

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Just what I'm talking about. And he admitted this and admitted going over and getting a Nazi

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disc. That's right. That was not a ramjet. It was actually electro-gravity. And my grandfather said,

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look, you know, we were in a facility, a hangar, and we saw a German flying disc. And I said,

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you know, oh, is that the one that was cobbled together with six BMW jet engines? And he laughed and

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he said, no. Now some of them are extraterrestrial. Yeah. I don't use word alien because people think

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it's someone from Guatemala or something. But an ETV, an extraterrestrial vehicle, or NHI craft,

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non-human intelligence craft. That's not what he brought back. It was a Nazi early prototype,

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but it wasn't stable. It took us from 1945 to 1954 to master what's called gravity control.

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Yeah. And I have a man who is a whistleblower, but privately, who is the top scientist at the

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Naval Research Labs, who has passed away, so I'll say his name is Richard Fosh, FOCH.

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Rick had been in the vault and saw the documents for the date we mastered gravity control. And it was

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October 1954. So beginning in the late 50s, forward, many of the UAPs, UFOs, whatever the new

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fake word is, are using for these things. That's also at a CI. We'll talk about the word usage and how

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it's a mind colonization. It's a mind fuck, excuse my language. But to think how these guys

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think, right, you had to get at their level. And so from there forward, they said they had captured or

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shot down a couple of ET craft, but they weren't starting from zero. They already had that, right,

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the Nazi disk. They had the T towns in Brown, Electrovervetics, which became the foundation of

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rank corporation, by the way. And so that's interesting because I know

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T towns in Brown did some experiments in the 60s, right before his work got kind of covertly

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transferred to Northrop Grumman for the B2, and he did a presentation for rank corporation,

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and then something happened. And so, yeah, that started in the 20s. Well, his experiments, yeah.

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Okay, so late 1920s, they were using very high voltage material, resonant frequencies, certain

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frequencies, a very high voltage, but low power. Not a lot of current. Low current, if you understand

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electromagnetism and power is, you know, the current times the voltage, right. The fact is,

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is that he was able to hit a sweet spot with certain crystalline materials. High K dielectrics.

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Yeah, that would then levitate. Yeah. Float. That was 28, 29. It was reproduced in Germany

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in the Kalski Frost experiment. All this is end by the way, the disclosure project intelligence

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archive. We've released it all, dpiarchive.com. Yes, that dpiarchive.com. And so I go,

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we didn't want to see it. It's there. If you can read, you'll learn it. But so that percolated

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along. So the clankrovert programs with this go way back to the turn of the last century.

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Yeah. The late 1800s, early 1900s. There are still top secret files on this issue from the late 1800s

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and early 1900s. We know this. Wow. Way back. Fascinating. Yeah, it is fascinating. And how do you

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know that it goes that far back? Because one of the very top people since 1979 at the CIA,

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who's worked this issue is an intel source for us. So what is the secret? Because we think we

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associate it with the CIA, which was formed in 47, even though SS was 42 through 45. Yeah.

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No, it was again, it was military intelligence and scientists who were under contract and there

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were top secret things going on. People forget Nikola Tesla, not the fake Tesla cars with a little

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toy battery plug-in. I'm not talking about the fake Tesla. I'm talking about Nikola Tesla.

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As Einstein was asking, what's it like being a genius? He goes, I wouldn't know you should ask

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Nikola Tesla. I think that was the real genius. I agree with you. The 20th century. Hey,

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M. Antons and Brown and Mike. Yes. And Matt Faraday, Maxwell, they all had stumbled across this

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electromagnetic effect. This is when I say we have 100, the law century, everyone goes to see this

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documentary. It's a documentation of 100 years of law's technologies that are really advanced.

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I don't mean to crap out of Silicon Valley. It's just peripheral garbage, iPhones, all that stuff.

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That's not high tech. None of it. The really high tech stuff, they slammed into a box because it

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was liberating. This is a libertarian's dream. It would liberate every home, every car, every factory,

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every country into energy independence, no pollution and no poverty. But then that undercuts this

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Uber elite oligarchy. The super powerful trillion dollar. I'm not talking Elon Musk.

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A couple hundred billion. Nobody cares about 200 billion dollars. We're talking hundreds of

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trillions of dollars in assets. Can I say where I might disagree with you? I think we have

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these novel effects in the black around towns and brown, electro-grivitics, things like that,

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extended electro-dynamics. And then I'm not so sure. You might be right, but I'm not sure that we

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have scalable zero-point energy that could take out the grid. Do you have high confidence that we have?

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I have 100% knowledge of it and absolutely. Really? Absolutely. We have it. You know what?

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The CEO of a Fortune 50 company, I'm sorry, Chairman, not CEO, who's retired now, has approached us

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last year. As soon as he did, he had a wet works assassination team threaten to kill him

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and his entire family and grandchildren. So he's 80 now. But he wants to come forward and the first

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thing he said is we have we could have had free energy for the world and he quote decades and decades

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ago. Absolutely true. Is this company a defense primer? I won't comment, except it is one of the

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it's a household name in the United States. Wow. And this is the former Chairman. And he can

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be you saying yes. I want to get this out. Yes, but of course, this is why we're get to this in a

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little while. Why some of the executive orders and things in Congress have been working on

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provides ironclad protection, not just legal, but physical, like federal, martial protection

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or secret service to the HVT high value targets, very high value whistleblowers. Because we have

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several categories of whistleblowers. I have 760 some whistleblowers, but I have to brief.

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Some of them at such a high level that they're in serious risk. It's not a conspiracy theory

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of just being whacked, right, killed and their families. And we have to protect them. So the

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president needs to sign executive order and the Congress needs to enshrine in law. We see almost did

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in December of 23 a little over a year ago, but that got gutted in the reconciliation of the

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National Defense Authorization Act. And the part of it that I had helped console on for Senate

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Intelligence Committee, because I've been in the skiff there and done things for them. That got

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taken out and the reconciliation by some devils who were in the House of Representatives. We know

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who they are. And one of them got removed is sort of he got removed is because I blew the whistle

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on it. I said that guy out. Well, here's the problem. If you are carrying water for a criminal

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conspiracy, a transnational corrupt organization, which is what this is, that is committing murder,

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abductions, alien abductions are covert human programs, by the way, 100%. I mean, that's another

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big secret. Nobody knows. Then you're also committing embezzlement of money, black budget

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money. That's being embezzled that the president and Congress have not have no knowledge of

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you're murdering people. Take the whole federal penal code, throw it at these people. So where I

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am at this point, because I'm in June, I'll be 70. So I've been doing this for one hell of a

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long time since I was 35. My view of it this point is we're going to have to get serious against

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these criminal elements. But if you're carrying water for them, if you're one of their shills or cut

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out, whether you're in Congress, the Senate, the public, or someone on your podcast, they need to be

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arrested and tried for treason and sedition against United States. I'm going to record and say that.

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And this is seriously being discussed. So I'm issuing this as a warning. This chicanery and nonsense,

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one way or another is going to come to a screeching halt because there are people not just me.

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I've been saying this for 30 years. You go back and see what I saw in the meetings with the Clinton

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people back in 95, 93, 94, 95. I briefed the CIA director for Clinton in December 13th of 93.

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Wow. So I mean, before probably you were born, but the point I'm making is that this is a really

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huge problem. So if even if you're a low level operative, you're just carrying water for this

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messaging, right? And disinforming the public or blocking bills, you are part of a criminal operation.

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And Rico, racketeering influence, crop organization, conspiracy can be invoked and grab them all up.

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Speaking of Clinton, his deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence, Chris Melon,

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has been responsible for pushing a lot of disclosure posts 2017. This article with Leslie Kane,

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these videos that have come out, he and Lou Elisando in the New York Times. How do you square that with

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Paul Melon being one of the founders of the CIA? Because all three of the people you named are

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being told to tell part of the truth. And the partial truth is actually more damaging than

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than saying nothing. So if you tell people, one, we don't know what these are. So all three of them say,

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so you AP, we don't know what they are, both more mowarky or in Texas, cow pods. I mean, it's just

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nonsense. We know what they are. There are extraterrestrial vehicles, in HIV vehicles. There are

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man-made ones that's the majority that are seen now. That's the biggest secret. And then there are

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things that are extra-dimensional. They're not from another star system, from another dimension.

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They're not craft, they're beans. All that gets put into a blender and confused on purpose.

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Are there any time jobs? To gas, well time and space is fungible. But I'm just going to stay on

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this for a minute. So if you're told, say this, but then misdirect the public on that, let me tell you

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how great counterintelligence works. You take truth, put it on the outside like a sweet coating,

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inside this nice little piece of candy is the poison pill. So they'll come out and they'll say,

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these are real, but we don't know what they are, we don't know how they fly, big lie. Or they'll say,

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there are threats to the national security. Well, the man-made ones are because they're running by a

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transnational criminal organization out of the control of the White House and the Congress.

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What is that organization? Do we have a name for it? Oh, it used to be called Majestic 12.

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The last, I know it's been the last good name I can pinpoint on a document from the 90s,

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from the NRO National Reconstance Office was Magic. Magic. Which is the majority joint intelligence

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committee or just Magi. And they're global, they're transnational organizations that coincides

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with different governments, national governments, but basically has supersedes them, has power over

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yes. Yeah, I mean, it's what the center in a way who is a Democrat, who is the chairman of the

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committee looking into a Ron Contra back in the 80s, the Reagan years, a YN. And he said,

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but where, no, he's the one who said, there exists a shadow or secret government. That's above the

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US government. That has its own funny mechanism, its own air force, its own navy. That's above the

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law and free from the law itself. I'm almost quoting you can look it up. It's an archive. How did they

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stay coordinated in the world of like smartphones and stuff where, you know, how did they? The regular

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guys in SA don't have the level to keep that organization out because they have technologies that

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penetrate time space that go beyond the electromagnetic conventional encryption. So, do you think you've

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met any members of the majestic 12 or of course, I have for sure. Interesting. And that's why, you

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know, back in 92, I was on Patrick David show a couple weeks ago and he said, what kind of, I said,

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well, in 92, General Stubblebine offered me $2 billion to be part of his little cabal of

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goose stepping fools. What did he say? What it's so Stubblebine is what Army counter-intel? He was

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I think at one time he had been in hand of Army intelligence and special forces and

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whole career. But his career dealing with UFOs goes back to the 60s. Really? Yes. So, when did

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you start? Well, I had an intel source who had worked with him way back then. Now remember, this

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is 1992. So, this is 33 years ago in May this May. And, that David thought there's no way that

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was a serious, I said, oh yeah, it was. Because he knew I could make a lot of trouble for them.

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That would have been a bargain, $2 billion, because I've caused a lot more trouble. Did they ever

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offered to show you a UFO and for to, so that you would stop talking? No, I mean, look, no, no

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amount of money or threats are going to get me to stop the mission I'm on. That's to bring the

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truth out of this and let us start a real golden age where we have all these technologies.

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Have you ever seen any of this in a newspaper? I've never seen any of this in a newspaper.

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Have you ever seen an UFO not in the air but in a hanger in like a... Oh, taken to one of those places.

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I've been in places where they have, I have not seen this. But I have many, many whistleblowers. See,

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one of my great gripes with the House Oversight Committee, they have not had a single legitimate

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whistleblower up there who is a direct firsthand person. And I find it very, very, very odd.

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Because I've met and discussed this with Grush and Luna and others and I go, here's a hard drive.

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Unredacted. Well, you've spoken to David Grush? Yeah, well, I met, okay, let's go back a little bit.

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I met with Grush when he was still undercover operative. I know I knew he was. His bosses were the ones

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I was providing intel to that helped him and other people get to find what he found. Who were

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his bosses? I can't talk about that. There are people in... Look, the Senate Intelligence Committee

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and Senate Armed Services had authorized and a bill had been written the form arrow at the Pentagon

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and that have investigations on this. So the bosses in charge of that at that level of intel were the

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people who wanted him to go out and one of them set up this meeting between me and Mr. Grush.

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And you like David Grush? Do you feel like you find him to be an honest actor?

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Oh, yeah, he absolutely. What he said about what he found. But again, he's second-hand.

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My whistleblowers are direct firsthand. He has said that he's actually had first-hand knowledge

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since getting that critique. So I don't know exactly what that is, but... Well, he's been pulled

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into some up, but the problem is he got attached to a gentleman named Louis Elizondo who is

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mainly there to provide partial truths. And this is what I was talking about earlier. So if you put

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out some information and then attach the disinformation to it, there's a threat. We need to go to

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World War III in an alien battle. We don't have these technologies ourselves. We've never developed

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that advance. When I have direct people who've worked on built and flown the man made UFOs.

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Right? So these are your high-value target whistleblowers. You have a whistleblower who's flown

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an alien reproduction vehicle, a UFO that we've been saying here. Yes, and more importantly,

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the man who managed all the pilots, they flew them out of Edward's Air Force space. Did he say

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what? Edward's complex. Did he say what it was like to fly in a UFO? Well, they're control from

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1G. Wow. So in other words, they could be going 200,000 miles per hour, stop, make a turn. And now,

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if you were in a conventional aircraft, even if you could go that fast, your brains would come

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out through your nose. Oh, yeah, G forces would just splatter you, but they can control. So really what

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they are, they're moving in an electromagnetic field space-time bubble so that they can move as if

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there's none of that gravitational effect. Did he say he would feel like he would feel like he

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was going faster? You can feel mostly like 1G or a little lighter. Wow. So yeah, you don't feel

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that centripetal force or centripetal force. Are you worried you're gonna hit something at that

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speed? Like it's just so- Well, if they do it right, they have. They've had some terrible disasters.

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I know a man, two different people who've been on the retrieval teams of the triangular ones.

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So Northrop Grumman, my uncle, was on the team that designed the lunar module. Really?

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First panel in the moon. Oh, that's cool. And his whole career is Northrop Grumman. Now this was not

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his portfolio, but he heard things, right? Because he was a senior project manager. Eventually moved out

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from Long Island at Beth's page where they actually designed and built the lunar module,

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landed on the moon with no alarm strong, to California. But this was not his. Those special

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projects that's called him within Northrop Grumman Lockheed's Conquerorks are hermetically sealed from

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their normal business of jets and rockets and whatever, the normal stuff. That's true of all these

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corporate contractors. It has to be because I think about like Chinese eating our lunch in

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hypersonics right now. So like how is that possible and consistent with the fact that we have

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hyper light drive ships? You know, like those two things, but they're so they just don't talk to

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each other. You have these secret black programs. They don't even know each other exists. They don't

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know each other exists. And so the problem with that little secrecy that Eisenhower foretold

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is that that entity can then take on a life its own because of their technological capabilities,

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but not only in energy and propulsion, but in surveillance, right? So we haven't talked about that

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yet. And this is where you get into the really high end of psionics that Jake talks about a little bit,

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that I've been talking about since 1990. So the cheap end of it is the remote viewing program

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that the CIA had, right? That's the C&A abilities and what Bob Monroe had with Hemi Sink,

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remote viewing. What we do is see E5 contact, but the high end of it's an electromagnetic

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transdimensional interface with consciousness and mind and technology.

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Thanks so much to Qualia for sponsoring today's episode. Oh sure. So then why aren't this? Because

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the... But I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not like some science fiction hit a button and

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some of it becomes an automaton. I mean, the automaton's like Jake talked about. Jake

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Berber talked about who are these P3 operators? Go through a rigorous training program. So they can

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become like almost like a machine, human machine interface between the people controlling them

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and the ET vehicles. So that's a very elaborate program. But what I tell people is that in the mid-delete

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50s, I admit a man who invented kind of a headset like he's wondering. That would basically put

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you in a state in consciousness so you could remove you decent places. 56. Wow. And he offered it to

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me. I said, this is going to be too hot to handle. I'm just dangerous enough what we're doing. If I

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have that, I'll be dead man. So, but the man was... Men is 80s by then because that was 56. This

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would probably have been in 93 or 4. All kinds of people started coming to me in the early 90s

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after we had four ET craft materialized in the air in Florida near Pizakola. That... My whole

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intention was simply to go out and attempt to make peaceful contact with groups of people with the

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ET's. But once the intelligence community saw that we knew how to do that, they came after me

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like a pack of... Right. So, yeah, I want to tell that story. Like how you got...

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Nasty bit of this. So you were an ER doctor and then you just... Did you just feel inspired to start

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going out and doing CE5 protocols or how did this... How did this all begin? That's a very long story.

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Excuse me. Bless you. Just so people know, I just had emergency surgery last night for a rupture

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appendix. Yeah, it's amazing that he's here. It's a... Yeah, he was here. I mean, I'm an open book,

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folks. But I mean, it was like, oh my god. And as a doctor, emergency doctor, I go, this is bad,

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my assistant Raven. When we go... We go straight from Houston and drive to the Texas

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University Hospital. I can't believe it. And a friend of a friend, do a doctor, a surgeon there,

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who could like open me up and do it. Wow. You know, it was... I got home from the hospital.

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You seem great to me. Oh, well. People say, you're a fucking machine. Anyway, but...

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Well, you know what I told, I texted Jake. I'll be right here. Yeah, and I said,

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Winston Churchill said, never, never, never give up. Yeah, I love that. So you just keep going.

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Yeah, always. But no, it's... I'm been a little whosy. I hope I'm being coherent here.

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No, you're being super coherent. Yeah. Yeah. This one, I'm having some matcha.

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Yeah, there you go. You're on point. So, okay, so the origin story. So you're an ER doctor.

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Well, I had a sighting first. Okay, I had a sighting.

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In wow, it was eight or nine. Wow. Yeah, that's right. And we've met a

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kids in neighborhood, my twin sister in Charlotte, North Carolina, where I grew up.

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And because I had a chaphole residency, that's so I'm a North Carolina guy. And

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I brought a daylight perfectly seamless disk. About 1963 probably. Wow. See, three, four.

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Around the time Kennedy was killed. And I went, wow, that's a UFO. That little kid. Now,

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my parents thought we were just like making stuff up, right? Parents should believe they're children

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when they see stuff. Anyway, so I ignited an interest that I had lifelong. Then my uncle

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I just mentioned was working on putting the first man on the moon, which happened in 69 when I was

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14. I just turned 14. And so I was got very interested in all of that. And then when I was 17,

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it was my last year high school. I got very sick. I got injured. I had an injury. I got infected.

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And I grew up, people don't know this in a shack. Very poor. No heat, no air conditioning.

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At a cursing heater in the floor, we were starving on the streets, but literally I had all, we had all kinds

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of problems. So I had ended up getting on my own and it had a apartment in high school.

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I was tall and hairy. So everyone thought I was 20 when I was 16. A hilarious story. And so I

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washed pots and pans at a red lobster to get through high school. And then would bicycle to school.

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But I got worn down. And I got very sick. I had a near death experience. So my parents were

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didn't believe in God, didn't believe in anything, didn't believe in a soul, didn't believe in

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an afterlife, didn't believe in consciousness. And then this, I went, where are they wrong?

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There's a whole new cosmos out here. So I had this amazing near death experience, which introduced

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me to the whole science of consciousness. Right? So six months, so about a month later,

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or a couple months later, on my 18th birthday, I learned meditation. Back in the day,

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now I'm dating myself, 1973, when the the whole zeitgeist was transcendental meditation and the

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Maharishi and all that. So I learned to meditate. And I had these amazing experiences in consciousness,

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like cosmic consciousness, beautiful experiences. And that's where the near death experience was,

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well, thank you God, that actually helped get me on a path. But six months later, October,

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73, I'm up in the mountains of North Carolina. If you're in the bluerage mountains, up near Boone.

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And there's a, I saw I climbed up this mountain up over 5,000 feet. And I'm up there before Sun

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said to meditate. And I look up and that same craft, well, it looked the same. I can't say it was

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the same one. That I saw when I was a kid, when I was eight, now I'm 18, just turned 18.

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Appears in the afternoon sky, crystal clear October day. What are the craft look like?

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It was a desk, a seamless desk, not a thin desk, but like, you know, kind of that shape. And seamless,

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the sun shining off of it, fully materialized. And then it didn't move off, it just disappeared. Wow.

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Because the interstellar ones could do it. They can be here and just boom. So I went, oh, they're back.

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I didn't think anything about it, right? That's cool. Another sighting. So I sit to meditate and

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go in this deep meditation. And at the end of it, I come out of it and it was very long. The longer

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than I thought it got dark. So there's a near sunset when I saw the craft. And it's not October, 73.

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And it was kind of beautiful because I looked up and you can see the whole Milky Way galaxy.

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It was crystal clear. And you're up over 5,000 feet up in the bluish. And at that moment, a beautiful

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thought came and said, the where, what a beautiful universe God has made. And with that, I'd notice

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over the rise of the top of the crest of the Mount where I was, there was a fire tower. I was

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sitting at the base of the look was called a fire tar. North Carolina's fire tar, not a fire

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tar. I looked, there was a glow. And then there was this creature that came over. And he, she, I don't

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know, was maybe about five feet tall. Beautiful deer-like eyes came over and touched me on my right

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shoulder. And my, at that time I had a long hair and a lot of hair. And then my hair went

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boing and it just stuck up. And then I boom, sort of vanished on this craft. For about, I thought it

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was 40 minutes or so or half hour or two an hour somewhere. And it was like four hours. Wow.

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Because time space is different. And that's where we sort of co-created and invented the CE5

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contact protocols. So you kind of downloaded it from that experience. Yeah, or I was, it was,

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it was collaborative. It was like me experiencing that state of consciousness as a human in 1973.

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And them understanding humans from where they are, which is thousands of years in the future.

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Wow. Right. So it was this very, people say metaphysical. It wasn't, it was very physical. But very,

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and very real, but very almost like a lucid dream. Because when you go into that state, it's,

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it's almost like a lucid interface between 3D and 4 and 5 and 60. You know, I mean, it's very

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abstract in a lot of ways. But are there ancient versions of this protocol or? Okay.

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Native peoples. I think this is all such a revelation to just the last few hundred years since

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scientific revolution where we threw the science of consciousness and spirituality out with the

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bathwater. Right. Right. Because it fell into the middle ages as a superstition and then burning

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witches at the state. And, and all that, that's a scientific revolution said, we don't want any

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part of that. Yeah. But I think we're going to come into a time where the science of consciousness

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and this understanding is going to merge. And I know Jake Barber and others understand this.

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With other, what we call science. Because it is a science. And that's what I discovered by studying

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the Vedas and the ancient Sanskrit from India. It's not Hinduism, by the way. Predates Hinduism

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and Buddhism. And so that, so after this experience, don't they have flying saucers in the text as well?

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Absolutely. Bhagavad Gita and the ancient, the mamanas. Yeah. And these are thousands of years old.

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They predate Christ. Creation. They predate all those. And there's like spending Mercury at the

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center or something. Well, that's maybe. Okay. Yeah. But definitely there were objects like that

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recorded thousands of years ago. So I said, well, there's really nothing that new under the sun.

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But so at what point do all these intelligence and military people enter your life? You have

[0:43:29 - 0:43:35] ▶

Colonel John Alexander as a long history in ufology. Often debunking, trying or attempting to do

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the job. But people do what they're told to do. Okay. Okay. Look, I mean, if you're if you're someone

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on the payroll and you're told you do this or we kill you or if you do it, will make you very

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wealthy and comfortable for the rest of your life. Yeah. Most people aren't going to do what I'm

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going to do. Is that why I said sit on it and rotate to the stubble by. I'm sorry. It'd be vulgar.

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The two billion. Yeah. Do you have that writing? The offer. Oh, of course not. Don't be naive.

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Now, but it was I have witnessed too. I mean, he then went to my wife, try to convince her. But

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what I'm saying is that most people have a price. Yeah. And either blackmail, threats, or money,

[0:44:13 - 0:44:20] ▶

or position, or power. Like I've known a couple billionaires. All I wanted to do is get access to

[0:44:20 - 0:44:26] ▶

the secret technologies and understand and see stuff. Biggla was one of those. But I knew him at

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the Rockefeller Ranch in 93. Right. When the Rockefeller hosted all these folks and Lawrence

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Rockefeller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he did he fund some of your work early on? He did. And he got

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intercepted by some people on his team who were knocks. Non-official covers for the CIA. It's so

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interesting though. Rockefeller, you have melon, Rockefeller. Like all these old families seem

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very interested in this sort of tech. Not just interested, but involved. Involved. Okay. Then a

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Lawrence was the philosopher king of the family. David. He seemed like a good guy, Lauren. Totally.

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Yeah. But he was surrounded by devils. These people get so they don't know it. They get surrounded

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by these operatives. And it's like, you know, the expression smile, smile and be a villain.

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I've never heard that. But yeah. Interesting. Well, in literature. But we need to re-institute

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education. Sorry. Catch me up. I'm terrible. You imagine growing up my four daughters. Oh,

[0:45:17 - 0:45:24] ▶

if I used the word they did. No, I said, addivistic. I think go look at up. I think we need more

[0:45:25 - 0:45:30] ▶

shaming around cultural illiteracy. Like I just displayed. So I appreciate that. I'm now

[0:45:30 - 0:45:36] ▶

extra motivated. No, no, I'm just ribbon. Don't take me too seriously about that. But you're a smart

[0:45:36 - 0:45:43] ▶

guy. But you know, it was quite clear that Lawrence had greatest intentions. But he also, he said

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this to me. His brother David Rockefeller and Jay Rockefeller who had been chairman of Senate

[0:45:53 - 0:46:00] ▶

Intelligence at Center Center Rockefeller from West Virginia. They were jumping up on his.

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anything less than clean, delicious energy. Late one night we go out on the deck of the ranch,

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the JY ranch, and the Rockefeller ranch and the T-tons. Because the Rockefeller's owned the T-tons,

[0:47:54 - 0:48:01] ▶

the whole ranch and gave it to the US government and then they kept out this beautiful ranch. And

[0:48:01 - 0:48:06] ▶

that's where the Clintons would go in the summer for vacation to learn about this. But the ranch

[0:48:06 - 0:48:14] ▶

had this beautiful cabin on at Lodge and we relate one night out on the deck and he said,

[0:48:14 - 0:48:22] ▶

I asked him. I said, look, now this is September of 93. I remember I'm very new to this,

[0:48:22 - 0:48:31] ▶

but I've got pulled in very quickly after the intelligence community realized that we could make

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contact. But there were people who were friendly to this. So you have the white hats and the black

[0:48:36 - 0:48:44] ▶

hats, let's say, that there were people who wanted this to get fixed and people never wanted this to

[0:48:45 - 0:48:52] ▶

come out. So the ones who don't are implacable enemies. The ones that do try to help, whether they're

[0:48:52 - 0:49:00] ▶

doing it overtly or covertly. And Lawrence is trying to help? He was trying to help, but his

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nephew, the center J. Rockefeller and his brother, Sheridan of Chase Manhattan. David Rockefeller.

[0:49:05 - 0:49:13] ▶

Yeah, which we can't get David. They didn't want to. He said, they are already jumping up and down on

[0:49:13 - 0:49:18] ▶

my nuts. That's what he said. For even having this meeting with you. So I said, no, yeah, it's so,

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because I'd asked him, I said, we need help. And you can help us. So you feel like he got kind of

[0:49:26 - 0:49:31] ▶

stymied by his family family and later by people on his team that portray me because he was funding

[0:49:31 - 0:49:38] ▶

John Mack as well, right? Yes, that was part of the betrayal. And he, I think he was, he was moved

[0:49:38 - 0:49:43] ▶

his funds over into people who met well, like John Mack. I knew John Mack pretty well. But

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did you like John Mack? Did he find him to be an honest actor? He was doing the best he could with

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what he knew. Yeah. So, but he's kind of a hero, man. I think he's great. But, no, but if you're

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working with only two cards out of a 50 to 50 card deck. Yeah. So he had two cards out of the 52

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cards for the audience. John Mack, head of the Harvard Psychiatry Department. They did all work with

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the the abductions and stuff. Exactly. He's a talented friend of Bud Hopkins who got into all these,

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you know, we're starting regressing people. But what they did know, every one of those cases that

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were being funneled to me, yeah, we're all done by humans. None of them works. I want to get into

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this with you because you've said, so one of the most famous cases, abduction cases in, you know,

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US history that I think the Obama's production team is now making a show on for Netflix or a movie on

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is the Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961. And you say that that was perpetrated by humans,

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and not aliens. Well, I, it very likely was, but only because the mechanism how it happened

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would not be consistent with interstellar, transdimensional technologies. We also know that by

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that date, I think when a 61 or something like that, we already had fully operational man-made

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electromagnetic craft with people who were made to look like aliens and stage, of course,

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called stage craft doing this. Now, John Mack didn't know that, but Hopkins didn't know that.

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You think we did that? Sixth and one? We absolutely could have. Really?

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So what I'm saying is, here's what I'm trying to say. I want to be very clear on this. I'm not

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saying no one's had contact with ETs. I did. Wouldn't be here if I hadn't had that contact.

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Jake had that consciousness contact with the egg he picked up.

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Forfound, and I did too, in 73. But it was beautiful. And these civilizations are completely,

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not only as they benign, they're, they be closer to an angel than a demon. But that's what some of

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your critics say is you summon stuff and it can be not always good. Oh, well. I mean, those are

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the religious nuts that are like, you know, into the world eschatology fanatics. But there have to be

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some bad, like just like us, right? I'm sure there are, but they're not allowed out of their solar

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system. It's like, oh, I know that. So you think that's like, I know what the, I know what the

[0:52:10 - 0:52:14] ▶

protocols are for, let's say, real space command, not the US space command. Do you believe in anything

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demonic in that world, in the world of the ETs? Well, see, now you just mixed up two of the three

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categories that I elucidated. There are extraterrestrial vehicles or an H.I. craft. There are man-made

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look-alikes infect semolies. And there are things from other dimensions that are really nasty.

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Okay. That are not extraterrestrial. And you're saying if you, but they're being deliberately

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conflated by people like Jim Simmy Van and Elisondo and others to gaslight people in Congress.

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So when Jocke's LA have said that to you, wouldn't he? Yeah, because in the 80s, he got taken in by

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that organization. He thinks Jocke LA is, is co-opted by the government. He absolutely did get

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100%. We know. Know who did it, how they did it, what he got. Can you say anything more? No, I

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won't. I'm just saying we are not going to tolerate people who spread knowingly or unknowingly

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disinformation that could lead to an interplanetary war and the termination of life on Earth.

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That's what that agenda is. Don't be naive. How do you get the minds and hearts of people

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to unite against some totalitarian global threat unless they've been brainwashed for decades

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with abductions, immutulations, and false images and Hollywood movies? That's what that is. It's

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a CIA psychological warfare operation. I don't get that vibe from Jocke LA though. I think he's a

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little deeper as far as... He's much deeper now. No, he's completely come out of that.

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But back in the day, like Ashrenaut Edgar Mitchell invited me to

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brief the Board of Neuatic Sciences back years ago. That's pretty cool.

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Yeah. Jocke LA and I were there for this retreat. Eventually Clayborn Pell, Senator Pell.

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That's really interesting. Clayborn Pell is, you know, Senator who is Biden's closest mentor.

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And he was part... And Clayborn Pell, I found out later after he died, was part of this cabal.

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Well, he was interested in all this stuff. Yes, but he was also carrying water for that organization.

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Interesting. Yeah. So now... Look, I mean, this has been a 35-year thing. When you say that,

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or an organization, that magic or... Yeah, this covert transnational thing that we gave you the

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graphic for you guys can show to the public. Well, it is interesting. So the MJ-12 documents came

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out from 84. It was a string of documents, 84 into the 90s. And in the Majestic-12 was a guy

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named Detlev Bronk. And Detlev Bronk was, I believe, President of the Rockefeller Foundation

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for a little bit. Yes. So... Look, all the big industrialists. So, first of all, let's

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ratchet this back a little bit. Yes, sure. What the definition of fascism is.

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Nowadays, if someone disagrees with you, you're a fascist. Everyone's a Nazi, everyone's a fascist.

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Right, right. Let's put that aside. The actual definition of fascism is very powerful industrial

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corporate interest taking over and overly influencing the government of we, the people,

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and corrupting and removing it in the direction so that the government is serving the

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interests of those large, oligarch corporate interests. So in the industrial revolution and era,

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it would have been that crowd, JP Morgan, now it's the big tech companies and others.

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We know how it works. I have a guy who is within SA who was in meetings with some of the senior

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C-suite people at a major tech and telecommunications company sort of colluding.

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We know from Snowden. Completely illegal stuff. We know from Snowden, they had backdoors,

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they had bull run and prism, and I don't think this was done unbeknownst to Google and Apple.

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Oh, it was with their cooperation. Yeah.

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But it reaches a point where it also becomes collusion between the element within what is being

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called the deep state, which is a misnomer in a way. But let's just call it that. And these

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corporate interests because they have an interest in not letting the public know the truth

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because the truth leads in inexorably to the release of the tech that's going to terminate oil,

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gas, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, hydroelectric, all of it. What do you think of Bob Lazar?

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So Bob Lazar obviously famous, you know, UFO whistleblum. It claimed to be at S4, a special

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compartment of Area 51 in 1987. Some files get put on George Naps desk from this CIA cargo pilot

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named John Lear saying, here's this guy, Bob Lazar. And you know, he's been reverse engineering

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craft. And the craft looks like Billy Myers sports model. It's this, you know, UFO.

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Do you think Bob Lazar is legit and actually worked at Area 51 on reverse aircraft?

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I have had no one corroborate that. So if you look, follow what I do. If I have information on

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the UFO's interests in our nuclear programs, I'll have half a dozen, a dozen guys who don't know

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each other, who have not colluded or synced up their stories to confirm that. I've not had anyone

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confirm his presence there at that time and what he actually saw. Yeah. Now, I think he probably

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saw something. He was here a short time. So what he might have been provided was part

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information and part disinformation and a controlled leak happened to gas light. Okay,

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yeah. Let me explain how very sophisticated counterintelligence works. Again, you have information

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as that's the sweet candy on the outside. But then quite unwittingly, I think he could have been

[0:58:06 - 0:58:11] ▶

given some false information because things were beginning to come out and they wanted to gas

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light people all the path. He admits that. He says maybe I was forced to drink a liquid.

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Yeah. And then he was given information that looked like the same information Rick Doty gave

[0:58:22 - 0:58:27] ▶

Linda Moltenhow and Paul Benowitz in 79. Yeah. Happens all the time. Interesting. So you think,

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that's what's so tough about this topic is there's always disinfo riddled in the info.

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But that's been my job is to pull that together. I call it the disclosure matrix or the disclosure

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mosaic actually. The mosaic is like you want to create an accurate picture and you have to get

[0:58:48 - 0:58:53] ▶

a thousand billion pieces. It's just so hard. It's so hard to talk about because even like we

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know bringing up the majestic 12 that's like seen as a joke. But then you could say oh maybe James

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Jesus Angleton who's running counterintell for the program for decades actually kind of pushed this

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and there were elements of you know falsifiable things sprinkled in to some truth. That's what I think.

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Yeah. I know. But like what then you say it but it has this like joky connotation. MJ 12 like come

[0:59:17 - 0:59:22] ▶

on. MJ 12 you know it's a great tactic. But there's a whole operation. Everyone says

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military intelligence is an oxymoron. It isn't. I mean there are some incredibly brilliant people

[0:59:28 - 0:59:36] ▶

yeah particularly in these opposite ops dealing with this. What's your process and they're very very

[0:59:36 - 0:59:41] ▶

slick. Yeah. They're very good. How do you know? So like somebody you know like Randy Anderson who

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I've interviewed who you know said he was taken down to an underground facility. Yeah I'm yeah

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I'm a great career. And he came to you first and so I wanted you should you should be given a lot

[0:59:52 - 0:59:58] ▶

of credit for all these whistleblowers who were coming out. Or Jake Barber who said he was red

[0:59:58 - 1:00:03] ▶

teaming you initially he came to kind of infiltrate your camp. How do you verify that somebody is

[1:00:03 - 1:00:11] ▶

you know actually has your best interest at heart and it's being truthful to you. Because for me

[1:00:11 - 1:00:15] ▶

it on just being very real often it's like I think I've gotten certain things wrong. And I think

[1:00:15 - 1:00:21] ▶

I just try to you know uh uh sus out people's energy. But then also obviously look for as much

[1:00:21 - 1:00:27] ▶

cross corroboration that isn't correlated with the source. But like I have to have you know a certain

[1:00:27 - 1:00:34] ▶

percentage of humility where it's like I've probably gotten things wrong before. And so sure

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absolutely. You feel the same way or do you. I looked in 1997 briefings we did for Congress off

[1:00:38 - 1:00:43] ▶

off site at the Western hotel. We had somebody made it very far into that process.

[1:00:43 - 1:00:49] ▶

Who uh and thank God my military advisor and uh and uh and uh I think it was Edgar Mitchell.

[1:00:49 - 1:00:58] ▶

And one of my other whistleblowers were at the bar with this guy late one night. The night before

[1:00:59 - 1:01:04] ▶

we had the meeting for Congress. And the day before we had had a gathering saw all these whistleblowers

[1:01:04 - 1:01:09] ▶

could get to know each other create an aspree to core. You know kind of make them feel safe because

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they're all doing it together because it's scary. And um this this guy that we thought was legit

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sort of praddling on with some absolutely provable false information. And some of his information was

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true but he was going to fold in and embellish it in the things that were false. And I got a knock on

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the door at 3 a.m. and said this guy is putting in the stuff that we absolutely know as far I

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said ask him to go home. So I put him out of the meeting. So guy the guy hates my guts right

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because he this is going to be his thing to stand up from. I mean Dan Burton who was chairman of

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oversight committee uh for the house who issued a thousand subpoenas for Bill Clinton right during

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the monocle of whiskey and all that nonsense. So I said no he's out. So look yes of course I mean

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I'm one man but and I have mostly a volunteer team. The high place that wells place people

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but yeah I mean I have I've been gas lit and and deceived and betrayed and

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ultimately it's like what I was saying you show no them by their deeds. But what do they do?

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Eventually someone's going to show their ass right and then they're out you know and for me I know

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it sounds rough yet one bite at that apple because what we're dealing with at the level of say a

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president or congress or the public information is that this is too important a matter to be

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allow someone who's in there sort of telling half-truths and this is why I will immediately

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separate with someone who co-mingles known false information with information. Now if they do it

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unwittingly it's okay so I'll say correct it. If they're doing it deliberately like Luis

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Elisando it's a bridge too far. Now I'll forgive anything if someone comes clean right. What's the

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daylight between you and Luel Elisando as far as the substance you are because I mean I think

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you're putting out. You keep interrupting me but I will tell you if you'll let me finish. Yeah sure.

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Number one he tells people and as told people consistently we don't know what these are

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and now he's changed that a little because he has to. Then he said there are threat to the

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national security the implication being the NHI non-human or threat which if that's the case then

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we're going to go to World War III in a Star Wars fiasco and it's a complete false never.

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He's kind of walked that back though. Well he has to because we're going to this if we're done with

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that and then he would also say we don't have anything that flies like that. So like when David

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Fraver and I first spoke who is the F-18 Hornet pilot and it was a serendipitous meeting because

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there's a band called Godsmack that's a heavy metal band and a lead guy, Sally Arnors friend of

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my and it turned out he lived across the road from David Fraver because his daughter had

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backed into his mailbox and broke it and they went oh is David Fraver really funny. The universe

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works in strange ways. That is a crazy singularity. So Sally Arnors calls me up says this Godspack

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leads singer guy and I go really is your neighbor. Well get him on the horn let's talk

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yes. It's some years ago and David goes oh yeah that was you know it had to be yelling it's a

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serve with all due respect that was how the Lockheed Skunk works. Really that made the craft.

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Yeah that was one of ours and he is now. So Fraver wouldn't say that now. Oh he did say so

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recently. But in front of Congress he says that's okay. He's been told since then he's corrected.

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So I said no that came out of the Lockheed Skunk works. It's one of ours. It was something that

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they didn't purpose to see our this global organization to see how our military would react.

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So you think that tick-tack was absolutely. Oh absolutely. Wow.

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In the book we're going to give you there's a very good account of it from 1967 over Pennsylvania

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and we have a whistleblower who saw it being offloaded out of a big ship out of the 1991 I believe.

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Yeah that's how it was. That was in the later. And then later very recently a Lockheed executive

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admitted to David Fraver that was theirs. But I knew that I knew from the first time I saw it I

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said it was all we were seeing and I go that's not extraterrestrial it's one hour. But David

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Fraver feels pretty no nonsense to me. Do you think he's no way? No he is a totally straight-up guy.

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Yeah. But let me unpack this a little bit if you let me and just stay with me for a minute.

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If you're a pilot flying jets which are circa 30s 40s 50s or a guy doing stuff with rockets like

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Mr. Musk which is circa 1940s right the V2 that's run over on brown so a rocket they're

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fancier now on better computers it's the technology is very old it's a Roman candle it's Chinese

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candle going up and blowing up periodically so this is primitive junk I mean it's all junk so

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it is compared to what we have out in these covert programs so you have no foundation

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to have been read in if you're a F18 pilot why would you be read into something the President

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United States isn't read into. And so the same is true if you're working for an aerospace company

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but you're working on the conventional end of it so they're not they're saying the truth as they

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know it and the damage here's the danger I want to get to this big key point if you don't know there

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are three major things going on ET manmade and this weird stranger thing sort of extra-dimensional

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spooky stuff and that they're deliberately being commingled to offescape hide the truth you're

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going to get it wrong so that is the core of how the psychological warfare operations work because

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most people and this is from whether you're the president or the king of England you're not

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going to know enough unless you've done a huge deep dive into this which has been my task to try

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to unravel this mess because when I started out I thought everything that went bumping the night

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was alien I did 90 you know the early on and it wasn't until I started having people come forward

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who said oh we've piloted these and then I had guys come forward who had actually been on the

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abduction squads made it look like aliens whoa and they said I don't know what you know people who

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like committed those crimes yeah and they feel terrible later in life so if they were very young

[1:07:59 - 1:08:04] ▶

they were young guys doing it now they're like 70 80 years old they feel terrible about what they

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did and they regret it but they said if you we if we talk about this publicly they will absolutely

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kill us because that's the heart of the secrecy is the mind control stuff the sort of cyclods who

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were they want everyone to believe there's a threat from out there because the card they want to play

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that Werner von Braun warned about on his deathbed to my friend Carol Rossum was they want to

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create an alien threat to unite the world in this sort of dystopian not a golden age but a dark age

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of militaristic totalitarianism so if Lou and his guys move in that direction I got to call it out

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and people say we're you're not very friendly I said no I said we got to protect the human future

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I mean where are we going to end up yeah now where's the end of this algorithm going

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you run this algorithm like they're doing it oh we don't have any craft like that because they

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don't want the national military command structure to know that something they encounter like

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Mr. Fraver did was ours and therefore they'll say oh it's alien oh therefore we're going to

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engage in this war this is how you start wars this is how you get disasters like after 9-11 when

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we went into Iraq and and Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with that and he didn't have the

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weapons of mass destruction this is how you connect the next big war this is what happened

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with COVID they took a dangerous virus it got loose and then they shut the world down even though

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the World Health Organization emits now that was a big public health mistake so the problem becomes

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this being a mishandled by this president in Congress because this is all going to come out in

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the next year or two will be a thousand times worse than with the mishandling of COVID or 9-11

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so we were out of we're out of time to get the information out in a truthful way but a

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truth that can lead to a future that is a golden era of peace prosperity a pristine planet that

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gets fixed the end of poverty and peace here and in space you cannot have peace on earth and

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engage in war in space i would hope i agree well i would i would stop yeah but these are the people

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that you're talking about yeah it's the inescapable occlusion of what they're saying opens the

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pathway to that hmm this is see protecting the human future and consciousness of what kind of

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world we're going to have that's actually my central mission it's not the disclosure project

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i would hope that if david frayberg got told by walkie to exactly this is one of ours he would

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come clean about well my assistant can look it up i think it did come out somewhere okay interesting

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but that yeah that makes me uh disappointed in frayberg if that happened because i love for him to

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no no he's he's afraid it's view no wait see that's wrong okay don't be impetuous

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trying not to be impetuous you have people who speak the truth as they know it

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right but they're only given we didn't trust the lock eat executive he's hearing other sources

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telling him other no i'm saying before that his comments uh what he said but i i would hope that

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you then he'd then correct the record he'd then say i think he probably has by now uh interesting

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but i think he has i mean he's a stand-up guy um-hmm seems like it to me yeah and and uh the problem is

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many of these people who are great guys um-hmm get intercepted by people who are slick counterintelligence

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operatives anybody else you think is a bad actor look it doesn't matter here here's what yeah

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the here it out for for your audience keep it simple um-hmm if they're denying that we have these

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objects they're either uninformed or they're disinforming you deliberately if they say there's a

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threat from these objects from out that are not ours now the ones that are man-made huge threat

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to national security because they're not under the control of the u.s military legal military

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or white house or congress very dangerous if they say that the aliens are here for some malevolent

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purpose there may be things from other dimensions that are quite malevolent and those deliberately

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get mixed in with the aliens but no they're not because if they were you know it's like what congress

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member chett said we'd be a a a a charcoal brachette floating through space because visualize for a

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moment take what Jake said about because he's been on your show i'll reference him so he's been a

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site where we've targeted these ET craft and down them now i know i've been at multiple sites for

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this is going on and and i know where they are around the world they're in the briefing document

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i gave you is a map now they have electromagnetic pulse weapons so an electromagnetic pulse

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is like when you explode a ton of bomb right and there's that pulse it goes out i think it knock out

[1:13:09 - 1:13:16] ▶

your whole electric grid the nuke without the nuke but we have taken the nuke without the nuke

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but embedded within that is something called a scalar signal scalar Tesla described it

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it's basically instead of electromagnetic is a waveform like this right and coherent light

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is a laser we sync up the wavelength instead of it being you know waves like this like on a

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telescope a scalar is a point that goes out longitudinally faster in the speed of light

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so there is a scalar part within the amp signal that is very disruptive to interstellar

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communications and travel this is why after we detonate the first atomic bomb the ET's came in

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on force in mass because it and they are and only signal that we were in trouble that we could

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go to a point where we could store our life on earth but they also it disrupted their systems

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do you think Reagan's Star Wars the strategic defense initiative had anything to do with

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UFO crash retrievals oh sure it was just a front it was a black budget front so the the whole

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Star Wars thing in brilliant pebbles was just an expensive boondoggle most of the money for that

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went into these black projects wow the illegal black projects we'll get into that in a minute

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but what I'm saying here is that these technologies have been operational since the late 40s

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so don't see everyone's fighting the last war we figured out I mean Tesla T-Towns and Brown 20s 30s 40s

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let me tell you what's killed 43 right but so there were massive breakthroughs in electromagnetism

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and things that are to this day still covert those began to be weaponized and they realized

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either these craft that aren't from here let's get see if we can knock some down yeah and reverse

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engineer them the the problem is doing so is an act of war was we're targeting them now

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civilizations that are 10 to the sixth to 10 to the eighth years more advanced we are 100,000 to

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10 million years more advanced if they were hostile we would have been done August 1945

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over folks hey kids are done right they're not I know this from having had contact and everyone I

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know who's been on a crash retrieval team like Jake who's had a close encounter with the

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consciousness of those beings they're not well the bad the bad ones and I might not want to destroy

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us they might want to enslave us or might oh you're so brainwashed I'm just saying I'm just

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high-pops I think I don't know you read you you look at too much nonsense man I mean look if they

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none of that that could be done with the flick of a switch if they wanted to turn this planet into

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a a Tom and Tom planet of whatever I mean what do you think you know I mean the technologies are

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so advanced we you know this book is amazing by the way and I do recommend everybody read it and buy

[1:16:28 - 1:16:34] ▶

it because it's it's a treasure trove of excellent documentation across decades one guy in this book

[1:16:34 - 1:16:40] ▶

is a really interesting fellow named Bob Beckwith and Bob Beckwith wrote about levitation teleportation

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and time travel and he also claimed to be involved with the Philadelphia experiment in 1942 I

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know him see you knew Bob Beckwith oh yeah wow and my military advisor was on his border

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director's for his company so who because you hear so the Philadelphia experiment for the

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audience is you know that you have this this ship this naval ship stationed I believe at

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Philadelphia happened in Rhode Island that was the cover story well let's hear it because

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and that and here's what's really interesting that this you might not know about because this is

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as of this last month there's a guy named Harold Maumgren and he's a presidential advisor for JFK

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LBJ Nixon and and Ford and he has come out he's been tweeting a bunch about things that he learned

[1:17:25 - 1:17:32] ▶

in that capacity and getting brief by Richard Bissill who is the deputy director of the CIA who

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basically founded area 51 on quote unquote other world technologies yes he said that a contact of his

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a high-level intel contact of his from abroad talked to him about classified work that Tesla

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and Townsend Brown did on submarines together yes you have uncovered collaboration between

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Nicola Tesla and Thomas Townsend Brown yeah but I said to you informally I did not get that from any

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U.S. source what source did he get it from

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foreign intelligence do you think it is a good source do you think it's real no reason

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environment something tell me that and so I wonder because I always thought the Philadelphia experiment

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was kind of quacky even though I've gone very deep on Townsend Brown I think there's a lot

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two towns of Brown stuff oh yeah and so yeah brilliant yeah an amazing figure and also the for the

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people that say oh it's all electro-gravitics and it's not you know and there's no ET component or

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there's no UFO component he how do you a foe interaction that inspired the rest of his work at the age

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of 17 and so did Tesla and his mentor uh doctor Walter Russell there you go there you want to know

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institute my house in Virginia is 10 minutes from Swananova oh amazing yeah weird coincidence I

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didn't know that when I bought it and now now you have Terrence Howard uh carrying the mantle of

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Walter Russell yeah but and so do you think anything happened in the Philadelphia experiment and

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what was your interaction with Bob Beckwith like can we do we have time travel you know up I mean

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he knew the stuff already knew what I didn't know is what I wanted him to share with me uh-huh

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so he had invented something called a new train of light detector and now let me explain what

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that is you know a new trainau you can google what new trainau is but the subatomic particles and

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whatnot but what he had invented was a detector that would pick up new trainau light a burst of

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new trainau he got a national security order from the NRO national reconnaissance office that

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runs all the super secret spy satellites so they could seize that technology to put it on the sats

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because what that's used for is when a non-human craft moves out of let's call it trans

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dimensional space time into 3D there's a burst of this new trainau light that enables him to pick

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that up triangulate it and strike the craft down it so it's a part of a weapon detection system

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and so this genius Beckwith but he never got to utilize it because it got seized now we have a

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witness who came forward Eric Hacker a couple years ago who worked for Atheon and they were put

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in a new trainau light system a mile under the ice at the south pole true and so one of the

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prime bad actors in all this is breathing on and you know along with Norse Grom and Lockheed's

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Concord and others he said that caused the Christ Church earthquake in New Zealand Hacker did

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when they flipped it on the first time because who knows if they got the frequencies right so it's

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both an active and passive system it can pick up these objects when they let's say step down

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out of trans dimensional space time in the 3D but they can also be an active weapon system a

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carrier for hitting them at very very powerful pulses so this is the other problem if you're in

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the national military command structure and you're not read in to the technologies that this

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clandestine criminal organization has you're behind the curve very badly and I'm my coming of age

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on that was first with the director of the CIA for Clinton then in 1997 oh man many other people

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but in 97 I briefed the J2 the head of intelligence joint staff Admiral Wilson and you may know about

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that a memo leaked out from your gave us and I know a lot about it well I was the briefer yeah

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so I was in charge of the stand-up briefing yeah it was supposed to be 45 minutes when I'm for two

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or three hours and the admiral kept canceling meetings but prior to the meeting my military advisor

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who knew him he had been a senior naval intelligence guy good guy wonderful guy got a briefing

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document to the admiral and materials prior to our meeting and based on that admiral Wilson was

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able to run to ground and find some offices where these operations were going not he knew nothing

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about it and he was the head of intelligence for the joint chiefs of staff meaning you're putting

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the the equivalent of the presidential daily briefing intelligence brief together like the director

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CIA does for the president or DNI does but for the joint chiefs of staff he had no knowledge of

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the subject and when he began to hit Peter he got threatened he was threatened with being demoted

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and taken a star off his lapel which means a huge pay cut in retirement and by time I got to

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the meeting he was a combination of furious and scared all right so which I've seen this a thousand

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times I call it peak disclosure PTSD which we all have right a serious stuff and I mean if you have

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that low responsibility you find out this is going on a whole universe of this and you're in charge

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of the security of the United States yeah and most of the free world speaking of scary right so

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extremely so the meeting went on for a long time but you know one of the existential things at

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the end of it was I said well we really need your help now this is 28 years ago in April it's 97

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we really need your help fixing this problem he says well I don't have access I've been denied

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access and they flat out said you don't have a need to know to which he said I think paraphrasing

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well if I don't who does I'm the head of intelligence joint staff had a jt a blew them off so

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the problem became I said look he said who else have you briefed to not

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being allowed to know or control this or the I didn't meet with Clinton personally but the

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president the CIA director and the secretary defense co-ordinate a bunch of other people

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oh my god I said yes now you know how big the problem is it's an existential constitutional crisis

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much bigger crisis for the United States and China Russia around the least no one's doing

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anything about it it's a dangerous it no one's doing anything about it if anyone's listening

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with the administration this should be on your front burner not on the back burner speaking of

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the administration bizarre connection between Donald Trump the sitting president and the Philadelphia

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experiment is there's exactly there's not a lot of archival footage of John Trump who is the

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basically countries lead in radar at the time oh genius brilliant genius and was tasked with going

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into the FBI vault that had confiscated all of Tesla's files looking at whether any of that would

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be of service to national security and so do you think Donald Trump due to that might have

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some special knowledge on this matter I don't I don't think his uncle would have ever shared that with his

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his is like my my uncle who is with north of Grumman yeah you know the things he told me about

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what the things I'm working on the thing that land on the moon in 69 when in the late 50s we had

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things that could go to moon and back without a rocket right but if you knew about it I don't think

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he would have even told me about that because everyone knows lethal forces use north of Grumman

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have wet works people who kill people so does Lockheed so does Raytheon so I mean these are thugs

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and you know grushes guys the guys who kind of sent him out to look into this three years ago when

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I got pulled into the skiff at the Senate Intelligence Committee first thing I said is that you're

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dealing with thugs here think of the mafia own super steroids is the largest criminal corrupt

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organization in the history known history of the earth period and they have the technology in the

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means to make your life a living hell which mine has been since 1992 but I said just be prepared

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because I believe in informed consent as a doctor right so I said you have no idea what you're

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walking into here and boy within a day or two of that meeting the main investigator for Senate

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Intelligence had two black hawks over his house unmarked and he had access to all flight plans

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no flight plans over his house shaking the house with his four children in it with this guy

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looking out with the death stare like you're a dead man staring at him so it's a very dangerous

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business not if you're talking nonsense if you're spreading false information half information

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disinformation no one's gonna care but if you're actually getting to the truth like that man was

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for Senate Intelligence because he was assigned to the cook chair and chair of Senate Intelligence

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to get to the bottom of this rubio in the secretary's day I tell people they're gonna throw what

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they can at you to intimidate you right so you know this is I mean for a lot of people it's fricking

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hobby but the we get cut through all that it's deadly serious stuff but you know most people they're

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not gonna make it that far because what's gonna happen they're gonna start on this path

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and very quickly they're gonna be intercepted by really professionally well-trained

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counterintelligence people and they're gonna go off the mark I believe to this day that's what

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that's that's Ella John Sandoff shop that's Chris Melon's job that's uh you know frankly help put

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all's job on energy that's that's their job is to divert people into that dead end cul-de-sac I

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believe that would be sad about how because I love how so I hope that's not the case but I know

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for a fact that I mean he has to do what he's doing okay his one of his closest friends is on my team

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I know exactly what they said and what they did to get him to do what he's been doing the only you

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know the so this is interesting I did you know I came up with the story I mean I know it's okay

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I'm at the point that I don't think people the peep here's what I think yeah I said this to your

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producer yeah for friend before we came in here this the folks who know about this they need to

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come clean truthfully soon because there is moving through the system the ability for a law

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enforcement entity I can't name then I'm providing intel to to go to these folks get their

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information interrogate them and God forbid they lie they're on the prison the rest of their life

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this is getting very serious right now so people need either be quiet and not lie or speak the truth

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yeah and this is I'm making an explicit advisory here well I love that message and I you know I

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made this deep dive on Thomas Townsend Brown I think he's this amazing figure who deserves to be

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vindicated and right before I did it Eric Davis got in touch with me and was like Townsend Brown

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is a phony and I was I had known enough that he's counterintelligence I didn't I so I don't know

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but you know that I've known that since the early 2000s 90 I mean yes oh man such a bummer

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because all these guys are you know there's so much brain power and so it's a yes but think about

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it you're gonna put really good people out there to carry the water to miss message miss direct what

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have you well you know put your I put my I can put myself in anyone's shoes I'm gonna put myself

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in the shoes of sort of the ruling polypuro of this covert group you're gonna send people out who

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are very well trained some of them go through something called the farm which where they're

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professionally trained to lie past lie detectors that it are they're very well trained social

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engineering I'm your best friend trust me wink wink and then gas like you to miss direct you

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so none of that surprises me it's what you would expect if you took seriously what will we're

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Smith said in the 1950 documents in the briefing document that was top secret from the Canadian

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government that I think accidentally got declassified and he said you know about us reverse engineer

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in the ET craft but it one of his conclusions was he said no and not a conclusion he was told

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directly that this issue was more secret than the development of the hydrogen bond two levels higher

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uh and that was in 1952 years before we had it and that was that is how seriously the secrecy is

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because they were trying to figure out the opus operandi the modus operandi of the ET craft which

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means how they operate that is and they had not done that yet see it was 54ers when they had the

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breakthrough this is 50 so if you're trying to keep something like this secret you're going to

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deploy every asset you can up to and including the president of the United States right never mind

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putting out to no offense people knew to the subject who have no intel background where you can

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gas light people over and over again and that's true whether it's huge or rogan abc news 60 minutes

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whoever it is so that's the that is the Achilles heel of disclosure is that for every great person

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who comes forward trying to tell the truth there are 10 people who are going to say part truth

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part fiction and so I'm just saying that I'm becoming less and less patient with that I used to be

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a lot more diplomatic than I am now like I'm getting old and crotchety while I'm just out of surgery

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too so yeah it's pretty impressive well I may have a little bit I'm some pain I don't take any

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opioids or or or drug or I'm amazed well it's I that wouldn't let them give me and you're going

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in the service and no giving some toward all non-steroidal and it's incredible well it's to this day

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rfk junior robbert f kennedy junior he's great he's amazing he's in the current administration

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as as FDA or health and human services right or HHS yeah he says that his father was not killed by

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Sir Hanser Han but by this guy Eugene Thane Caesar who I believe was a skunk work security guard

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here something we look you know I have a letter it may be in the book it's an archive yeah and it

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was his dad yeah writing to a UFO researcher back in 68 it's dated one month before they killed

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me and he it said it open saying I'm a card excuse me it says I'm a card carrying member of the

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amalgamated flying saucer association of america there was such a thing I went oh my god what

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I saw iconoclastic an anachronism and I go wow you know and I get this letter and so I you

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know years ago I ran into rfk junior at Sundance and 50 cent was flowers given a talk and

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rfk junior had had done documentary about mountain top removal mining coal mining west

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Virginia what a environmental disaster and called the last mountain I think it was called the last

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mountain it was great and I told him just briefly because we're in this crowd I have a letter from

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your dad about this UFO issue dated a month before they killed him and that's why because if he

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he was gonna get the nominee nation and he would have won but his dad was super interested in this

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and also I'm convinced new that his brother rf jat kennedy the the president was killed over this

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you think he was killed over UFO specifically oh yes so that the data points that I have around that

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are I believe I don't know if this letter is real maybe you would know if this letter is real there's

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that there's a letter dated november 12 1963 ten days before he died to john mccone john

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mccone is the acting CIA director because he had just fired dullest right and mccone also is the

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former head of the atomic energy commission so you'd probably know a little the thing or two about

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the UFO issue and jfk's saying to john mccone we need to coordinate better with the Soviets on this

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issue of quote unquote unknowns in soviet airspace so they don't mistake these unknowns

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as acts of american aggression exactly in contrigger war three so do you think that letter is real

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I don't know the provenance of it I think it likely is it comports with the facts

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but here's the other thing we have a man whose interview we have on the audio tape

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uh named bill holden who is the chief steward for air force one when kennedy was flying over to

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Berlin where he gave the famous i am a burlinner speech and i i debrief this man and on that fly

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he brought there were some papers and on one of the papers there had been a big UFO siding

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uh that was on and and uh it so he brought this up to the president kennedy and kennedy said

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and the man broke in the tears when he said this kennedy turned him says i know this is true

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and i know these are real but the whole matter is out of my hands and i don't know why

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he admitted he had no control over the issue why he fired dullest

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because eyes and how were had lost control in the late fifties that extended into the kennedy era

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and really no president except people who have been part of that organization like George H. W. Bush

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Dick Cheney by extension w have really had any control over it and or any detailed knowledge

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of but the current president has virtually no knowledge it's fast and and uh so president

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Clinton you know his his friend of his webster hubble who was in the department of justice wrote a book

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get the name of the book and and he admits that he and the president were trying to get to the

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bottom of a couple things one of them was who killed jack kennedy and why and what's going on with

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UFOs of course it related and then something about Marilyn Monroe and of course i have a CIA document

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this top secret not been declassified um that describes the James jesus engleton

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angleton signed it wow that's a basic it's in the briefing document it's a wiretapper

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Marilyn Monroe in sixty two a couple days before they killed her threatening to hold a press conference

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and that's a real document oh it is that's insane yeah yeah oh it's real i know the guy who took

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it out of the vault from nsa is an NSA guy but i got folks who now people say why aren't you

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arrested i said because once we briefed all these people like at the level of the president and senate

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oversight committees and we concluded that these programs were being run run illegally outside

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the constitution we declared them all illegal therefore anyone listening if you're in those operations

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for have been they cannot prosecute you for going around your non disclosure agreements if you

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bring out documents tapes material they're open source and i will release them because all that

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material and i've told Jake this are being have been accumulated under in an illegal operation

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abusing the national security act and national security provisions when they are in fact have no

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protections so we need to flip the table here instead of these whistleblowers being prosecuted

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or people being killed for trying to get the truth out we flip it around for us law enforcement

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operating legally under the constitution go after the bad actors right so that's this is where

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it's going to have to go and i think it needs to be non-kinetic not violent but it needs to be done

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by any means necessary but if this is the foundation i want to unpack this a little bit the foundation

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of disclosure project so not in this book and in our archive is what's called a UNOD unless otherwise

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directed it's a military technique used that you write to a senior person and it says unless otherwise

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directed this is my assessment and this is what i'm going to do they don't have to write back

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because then there's no there's no there's possible deniability to assent a commander in chief or

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you know a four star or something and it's used and so my military advisor said you know what we

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need to do this is by late 97 and after the debacle with Admiral Wilson and finding out we had one

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data point after another after another that this was in a legal unsanctioned rogue criminal organization

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at that point i said well we need to declare it as such and therefore we need to

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divisiate everyone's non-disclosure agreements so they can come forward that's what we did so that

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is 1997 i put a i think a two or three month clock on it so i said unless we're notified otherwise

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our assessment is that these programs are illegal corrupt and unconstitutional based on the following

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the president has been denied access the c.i. director was denied access the head of intelligence

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joint chiefs of staff and other senior flag officers have been denied access senior members of

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the senate and house oversight relevant committees have been denied access because that by then i

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admit with all that personally this is not internet google crap conspiracy theory stuff so at

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that point of course it flipped my whole world upside down as a doctor but i said no at this

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point we're declaring these illegal and so if you're someone at Lockheed northrop rathion c.i.a.

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d.o.d. n.s.a. the whole alphabet suit epi and you know about this you want to come forward

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they can't touch you now the good news is now there's a law enforcement entity that is going to

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extend immunity and we'll protect them so we have that in place right now so anyone listening

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contact me we will keep your name look 80 percent of everyone has ever come to me they're in our

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archive black and down redacted right for a reason because i don't disclose someone's name unless

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they say i'm willing to come forward like Michael Herrera willing to come forward so he did

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he's the only person i ever not have met who saw something like that who lived the tale of the

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tale it's unbelievable that Herrera wasn't killed so an amazing story and a true one we've had three

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separate senior intel and military people confirm that so for for the audience this guy was

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part of operation kitsana and he was supposed to go to the philipines his unit was diverted

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this marina poor unit was diverted put in indonesia they see this eight gone octagon

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vanta black craft hovering above the treetops they're closed in on by these

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seemingly s1 special forces they don't know if it's special forces but non-descript

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guys who are very smooth with their guns and they have bioscanners and all this kind of you know

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high tech yeah and he later learns from jake barber that this was maybe a human trafficking

[1:41:43 - 1:41:49] ▶

operation yeah and that uh they were putting these psionic assets these people who were meant to

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be shipped back to the u.s. summoner perspective psionic assets perspective in other words they

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were people who had been identified with the predisposition to have those psionic abilities

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and those were being created up and moved back to some covert places where they'd be screen tested

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if they passed a certain level then they would go through a rigorous training program

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most of them end up in comas or die by the way but the ones that survive are very good at what

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they're doing but they're basically human tools for these these really evil covert programs

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to essentially hack into these non-human craft communication systems that are interfacing with

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thought and consciousness do you think there's like a super high-end version of neural link

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and move them over into range and hit them with an electromagnetic pulse weapon

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there are rumors uh that like the the show on Netflix stranger things is like real and that

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of course i've talked about all that stuff for years yeah yeah montalk and you know what

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gifted and talented education programs that i recently met with a pretty senior person and uh

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government who all anonymized because i don't think he wants to be on record on this but

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he mentioned um a link between batel memorial institute and he's gifted and talented education

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and the cabal running these UFO programs which is that is that is one of the people or the

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institutes on our list of yeah and they manage all the nuclear sites all the US and so if they're

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and what's interesting is you often hear stories of people making it past checkpoints in these

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gifted and talented education programs where you prove that you have you know some mind matter

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capabilities and then you get to the next thing and then they'll show you a piece of material

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and who would have the material what it would be batel memorial institute so i amongst others i mean

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look there many there's a whole military industrial complex component to this right yeah their institutes

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their all kinds of foundations their you know it it sort of is it's like a metastatic cancer that's

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because look they have a lot of money to spread around yeah you know i i met with a man in 1997

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before uh i was over at the meeting with c i director and dc who said we have given at least

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10,000 people ten million dollars each or more to secure the cooperation with what we're doing

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now that was that was 28 years ago so and i know he said at least it so i said yeah i'm sure

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so you know what's your price and if you have the ability to either be troublesome to them

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you're either going to like uh Gordon uh uh that guy used to publish uh

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of flying saucer magazine going Cooper no no not going Cooper uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Gordon

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Crighton yeah yeah he uh interviewed him he's one of our witnesses because he had been military

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intelligence uh uh he published this and you know all that you used to go to the palace and

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Prince Philip was very keen on on all this i've heard that oh i know for a fact yeah and so

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because i know that the people involved so he said um if you become too worrisome you

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see this interview is in our archive there's certain people who they will erase or do whatever so

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you know i think people kind of weigh underestimate the reach of this organization into extent it has

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has operative embedded but of course the grand conspiracy theories are false also

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behemian grow you know what maybe two of those guys know anything about this

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trilateral commission maybe two or three do i think so i think one of the problems with these

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conspiracy theories is that they're not nuanced and they're all pretty dumb from the point of view is

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you can't keep something like this this secret with a huge number of people knowing the number of

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people read in a read on to anything like this in any detail is going to be very very tightly controlled

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but those assets well trained well compensated well placed and so look i mean you know and they

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don't mind killing one of their own yeah you know when Bill Colby who had been read into this

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tried to get a zero point device to us and about just a small amount like fifty million dollars

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in seed money in ninety five i think the week he was going to meet with a member of my board

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they found him floating down the the river south of dc made it look like a canoeing accident and his

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wife knew that he had been killed you know the stand my story i think you talk about it in your

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oh movie the last century uh you just like a car that like ran on water and like we did

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is that so was he taken i he died of an aneurysm and do you do you think he acted is that real or

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his twin brother who we've met with and who is really the electronics guy behind all that

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mm-hmm stand myers twin Steve um absolutely as convinced he was poisoned and killed

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and you think that that well there we have a hundred and fifty substances that can kill people

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or poison them you know so what about pawns fleshman the you know they yeah cold fusion exactly

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i never met them i certainly they were on to something uh-huh and i know people who did much more

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souped up versions of that all those devices have ended up being confiscated with the people

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erased the guys who bought stand myers archive and all his devices um we were trying to get it but

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we didn't have the funding it went to an engineering group uh a permission and uh there was a

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a man who i didn't know what the what the money was behind that so my science advisor dr.

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loader went and saw this warehouse full of floppy disk and devices but he had one thing of great

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interest we have a picture of it it's in our archive dpi archive.com and it looks like it's sort

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of a toroidal electromagnetic and had a magnetically charged fluid in it and it was a complete

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free energy system so it had a national security order slapped on it way back but it was sitting

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there to acquire and we were going to try to get it and then open source it because you know memo

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to Peter teal and everyone else if you try to patent this or or or release it in the normal

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let's just say traditional venture capital way it'll never get out ever you have to dump it

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open source off block chain to up two three billion people all at once that's my belief i mean like

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well there's no way we know i mean this is the whole point of the wall century was to prove

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yeah yeah i meet with these kind of geniuses i just met yeah with a fortune-tune company

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senior scientist a couple weeks ago uh he came to LA to meet with me uh uh i was on

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there's a podcast sweetest lady uh-huh ever uh named uh

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Chloe Kardashian he was so sweet that she just released the let yesterday a

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book yeah podcast i did with her but she she was so much fun so sweet yeah she loves your work

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yeah i had never met her um she was very very kind yeah a beautiful person smart uh-huh

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right though very smart uh-huh but she um uh so i was out there this guy flies in

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super genius he can build uh free energy plasma things uh he can do teleportation but the major

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corporation he works for while i'm doing so he wants to work with us bring it out and he i said look

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don't try to do it through patent you have to open source it but if you open source it and you have

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a reach of a few hundred thousand people no one cares so i have a network of various

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influencer versions so every thing can get it to two three billion people all at once

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in which case you squeeze the toothpaste out of the tube so hard can't put it back in

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so these fascists that want to keep us dependent on earth-destroying energy systems forever you say

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how do you know what i mean he has the ability to build things that teleport and levitate

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i said nope don't touch those so so where i think that people in the administration i've

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spoken to are are mirroring that what i'm saying about to tell you and that is this needs to get

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disclosed we need to do it in a way where there's a pathway for the people involved to come clean

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but not be imprisoned and not be executed because on the i front i will leave the whole world

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blind now if you go back to 9345 you'll see what i wrote to the Clinton administration it's the

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same set of recommendations hardcore people in disclosure say oh we should round them up and

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and neurembert i said no these guys are holding technologies that are the trump card against

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everything the pentagon has yeah and plenty of them are just taking orders under threats of you know

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their families yes but i mean we have to have compassion for that but even the worst of the actors

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they either need to come forward or put on a leash right and stood down now to do that you're

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going to have to have a group of people who are special forces trained and that's the other part

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of this we can talk about carefully hmm interesting so is there there's a plan maybe to do that

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oh yes wait it's already been in place for about you're gonna have two years so what is that

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does that involve storming area 51 and doggway and right pad or what is this involved literally wow

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okay well they either capitulate yeah to the legal government of the united states yeah

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or they're declared the treasonous operations and then they're put under proper authority and

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oversight don't they have the secret weapons that can like aren't we unmatched so it's the reason i

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have so let me finish the story with amber Wilson we can getting diverted so at the very end of the

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meeting yeah he said to me he's i asked him can you help says well i think this is the best thing

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i have is a b2 stealth bomber that i know about and you're and i have learned he didn't say not

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what for me but what i've learned directly is that there's an organization that have things that

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can do circles the man made you oppose say RVs around my b2 still so he says so it's checkmate

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it's points that match it's over i said no sir we cannot it is david the entire united states legal

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united states of america constitutional government is the david and this organization's the galaeth

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remember that which is why so many presidents and so many senators and so many military guys that

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meant with they get to the edge of this precipice and they go god mother of god and they back off

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i wonder but there's a way around it okay so where the Achilles hill of that organization is

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is that their numbers are very thin the subjects coming out and they know the public opinion is

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going to go against them and then the and because their numbers are thin they they can be overwhelmed

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in a tactical operation the other thing is their upsets are very good operational security

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but they cannot withstand the full force of a serious quote investigation and operation tactical

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operation now what they do have is technological superiority and that can be vitiated through some

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technologies i don't want to talk about where basically you can go in and neutralize

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it's fire against fire but i'll just tell you can go in and neutralize the facility

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without a bomb and it deal again it deals with electromagnetic systems that are advanced

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scalar systems and you know there's a a scientist who talked at our 2023 conference right before

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the national press clubs the event we did where her herrera spoke and he was a senior a GE

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physicist and scientist who specializes in scalar so look we have assets where i could say

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all right go in yep so you could just you know their man made UFOs and all the other stuff

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can neutralize it that's all i'm going to say but i'm just saying that you have to have an

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executive order from the president to provide the protections to these high value whistleblowers

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you need personal security you need to authorize a law enforcement operation both conists and

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oak honest united states and outside continental united states is oak honest which can be done

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and then you need to fund it it'll be you know classified funding and then you also need to have

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a pathway for when you acquire all this material out of dug way and the adverse complex and

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lockheed skunk works underground in north-roops underground and rathians what do you do with it

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and are we're recommending the stuff that flies is kept secret in terms of it being it has to be

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acknowledged we have it we all know we have thermonuclear weapons but you can't go to ace hardware

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store and buy one so it has to get acknowledged properly but we just say right now the world is too

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unstable to let every ten pot dictator or terrorists in the world have something that can go

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from moga d shoot a dc in three minutes and drop of dirty bomb right there are valid national security

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concerns about some of these technologies and the world is not at that place the world is at the

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place where something that could sit on this table that would run this building without pollution

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can we can we and there there what happens then the the mouthhazian problem gets fixed

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mouthhazian mouthhazian problem gets fixed because you have something where you're going to eliminate

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in about twenty years global poverty much of terrorism and radicalization is to have and have not

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problem and because we're so narcissistic and self-turned inward looking in America we don't

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realize three billion people on the planet don't even have energy to cook their food that's why

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they're chopping down the rainforest or chopping down the brush into the deserts keep growing because

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it's like a pack of locusts that are just ripping everything out but it's because of the severe

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minomin inhumane uh i tell christians un christian poverty that we've improved in pose but that's based

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on the energy system you're never going to fix it with wind and solar ever or with a plug-in electric

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car it's never going to get fixed now these new technologies will fix that it'll fix the biosphere

[1:57:18 - 1:57:24] ▶

fix pollution and poverty stabilized you politically now they're going to be losers hundreds of

[1:57:24 - 1:57:32] ▶

trellions of dollars and assets and commodities but again it isn't going to happen like this it's

[1:57:32 - 1:57:38] ▶

not like downloading an app these are heavy industries it's going to take at least 15 to 20 30 years

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to transition from our current cars and electric grid to what i'm talking about and i don't know

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that we have 30 years so we need to get going so my point to people is that in the in the administration

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and i had this little debate with petrick bit david on the show is that this you know taking decades

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to do this could have been done in the 20s 30s 40s this is 2025 we have 8 billion people on the planet

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living like we're like in the 1800s energy-wise oil gas coal blah blah wind the Dutch had that ages ago

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okay so we have a little bit of extra nuclear 1940s so are you telling me the whole world has to run

[1:58:23 - 1:58:30] ▶

on stuff that's 80 to 120 years old this is ridiculous but it benefits a very very tiny

[1:58:30 - 1:58:38] ▶

oligarch ruling group of people on the planet energy banking petro dollar very i mean we're not

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again we're not talking about a few hundred billion we're talking about so we're 100 trillion

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dollars but if we're destroying the biosphere and and what their solution is well let's just keep

[1:58:50 - 1:58:57] ▶

diverting people with shiny little problems in 9 11 aliens that are scary see that's the next big thing

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is what verna vamer this is why when people spread that kind of nonsense i am going to go after

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them like a god damn rockweiler because that is how we end up in world war three that's how we end

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up in a totalitarian militaristic superstate the opposite of the golden age the opposite of an

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age of enlightenment the opposite of a sustainable world that's the end of the world as we know it

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and i tell people even if there are some ets that are really our ets and not from another dimension

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or a man made diversion that are troublesome you think you're going to win that war down the

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barrel of a gun no you're going to do CE5 contact go get the app anyone can get it it works

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we have shatner has it and did it and went up in space so go get it you know barber and others

[1:59:53 - 2:00:01] ▶

will tell you to apps that concept absolutely works because what we have to do is figure out

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if we have an any kind of conflict is it always going to get solved through a kinetic war

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well that's the end of the world because you're not dealing with thermonuclear weapons you're

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dealing with weapons that would make hydrogen bomb look like a tinkertoy so when you start

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getting into technologies that can affect space time where you could dissociate the basically the

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material of an entire planet poof no you don't go there so this is the sear see for most people

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they look at too much science fiction and Hollywood crap and way too much ufology where it mixes in

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all these rubbish and false narratives and myths with the truth but if you think about this as a

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thinking per a really serious person even if there was a civilization or one or two that might

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be troublesome and i don't think there's any evidence there is but i just you can't prove a

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negative so let's be devil's advocate no i'll be the advocate of what 99% of my colleagues say

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there are these worrisome aliens that we have to fight and we're going to fix that how are you

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going to fix that through a war through conflict well it would last about point one nanoseconds

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no this is stupid that is a suicide mission so if we're going to be serious about this then we

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have to think well even if that were the case and i don't think it is at all neither of this jake

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but every here's the thing too every man and they've all been men so far who have been operational

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on those retrieval teams that i've been meeting with back all the way to the early 90s

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not a single one of them when they encountered a living one

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said they were anything but very peaceful very enlightened and very kind but very concerned about

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humanity and what we're doing to the earth and to ourselves and potentially to them

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was remember now here's let's get cut this to the bottom line here the reason we're running out of

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time is that the technology curve from the forties to now is going like that so right now and jake will

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admit this the non-human et craft and the really advanced ones from rathion and some of the other

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companies are virtually indistinguishable but that also means the technology that can be weaponized

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is at that level which means humans this corrupt organization not under the control of the president

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the congress and the pentagon is becoming a threat to other worlds this is where we cross a red line

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and i've known about it for 30 years and i'm telling people we are right there we're right at that

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point and that you do not want to cross that red line to a point where there has to be an intervention

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from out there right but i think there are people in this crazy corrupt organization

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this transnational corrupt organization that runs this and a bunch of other stuff

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who would like to see that because i learned this in 94 from the crown prince of lichtenstein

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hunts on him he seems super into this topic he's popped up a few times didn't he like take all the

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roswell witnesses and fly him out to europe and meet with them and so you've met him too and oh yeah

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yeah i spent a whole afternoon with him and he's very no he's part of the organization he is always

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opus day he funded he funds opus day a really far right wing group of pentagon and i spent a

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lot of time with him but you see like him if you find him of pure intention or no no his intention

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uh-huh i was going to tell you this listen uh-huh so this long meeting was very disturbing uh-huh

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and it was at the pier four seasons in uh-new york there but from tathab and across from central park and

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he had a sweet uh we'd wanted to meet for a while i couldn't de-conflict my schedules and emergency

[2:04:03 - 2:04:10] ▶

doctor and his schedule we finally got together in new york because he was coming to visit larence

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rock and roll it and so we had this long meeting and he told me he says the reason i'm funding but

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hopkins and even back then uh john mac and some other people is that and uh david jacob's

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is that he had the threat native david jacob's is that we want the public to hate the alien so bad

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that we can have an interplanetary war so that we'll have armageddon so christael return i'm quoting

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that's that agenda so it's an eschatological eschatology to study how the world ends so from that

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point of view this instead of having a future a new world if you can take it as the et said the

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kernel corso that story is great a new world that we could go forward from hundreds of thousands of

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years as an event let's end the world so christael come back the messiah so there's a weird

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part of this organization that's corrupt that has this firm belief that we have to provoke

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an interplanetary conflict and that's how the world comes to an end and that's how christ comes back

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now when i heard this i just listened and i was of course horrified and stultified i went what the

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fuck you know wtf and i didn't say it but i just wanted to hear we're you know where are you really

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coming from in the organization you're part of because he was part of that hmm oh sure so if you

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wanted to speed up the end of the world so christ could which is why he was funding all the

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abduction groups and researchers you know i've heard he was funding them because those were the

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front line people so a lot of those were innocent people they would have someone who a cia

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special operations team or some other group they had one of these man-made flying saucers or

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would abduct someone that case would then be channeled through a couple cutouts to david jacuzzi

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but hopkins or john mack now they didn't know that i was debriefing people who are the ones operating

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the abduction program that was human hmm same thing with cattle mutilations lentemune how things

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those are aliens no we're doing that so we're there's all this talk now of disclosures you have

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disclosures around the jfk assassination people want the nine eleven records they want you know

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all these things they want Epstein stuff and so you know do you think we get any progress on UFOs

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and then maybe even the better question because UFOs are such you know it's so complicated

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it's this gangly octopus it's so hard to kind of find where the bodies are buried so to speak

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um no it's not well it's well we have maybe not so you think it is it's easy well but what I was

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gonna get here's what we're doing yeah the actual intelligence yeah that they need that that like

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mr. grush was provided some of yeah that could lead to hitting pay dirt yeah we have a huge

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amount of it other people i'm working with who are who have been former or current special forces

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have a lot of it that can be provided to the operation i'm talking about that's being looked at but

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that needs an executive order from the threat this is the one-pager for the present is that

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gonna happen do you think he's gonna uh listen and and sign an executive order his son seems very

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into the issue oh don junior i spoke with him briefly yeah no they're very interested and

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unfortunately don junior got gas lit about a lot of this by elizando with false information

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joe rogan is totally been misled your episode with rogan got deleted or something well in order to

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get his money from spotter they had to take it out really oh of course and it's like when Sean

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Ryan had you know on me showing her era shortly after that he got threatened i'm i can't be on that

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showing really am i am i gonna get fucked with no i mean you don't have the numbers if you had a

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20 million people maybe i guess that's good or the question is what dirt do they have on you

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no i think i'm pretty straight up so if you don't care about being bought off with money

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uh soon you have some assets yeah to do it all right and yeah so if you're if you're not corrupt

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the bull with money and if you're not somebody who's gonna try to jump the shark by getting on the

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insight for the technology is what happened that was bigel is a kelezeal um Bob do them

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brought the bigel and you're not afraid and you don't have something they could blackmail you with

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you know do you think bog bigel has a warehouse with UFOs in in Vegas no you know no i can tell you

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that colonel Alexander who was his consigliate that was all set up so that the 22 million dollars

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at harry reed helped get to bigel airspace the research this would be you bait here here's what

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that operation was send the money to that bigel did not know this he really didn't he was innocent

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it was Alexander who did all the gas lighting send the money to there they get the money the

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Pentagon thinks they're going to get a serious research effort you might as well have opened the

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toilet lid flushed 22 million dollars down to the to the sewer because that was a setup and i

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spoke to uh general bob herbert who it was had left the military and was right hand the senator

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reed about this a few years ago during covet and another senior operative who worked with him and

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they said to me we didn't get anything of any value out of all those millions of dollars i said no

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because the person who was actually directing that operation is someone who has been key to covering

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this up for decades as part of this rat pack of guys named colonel Alexander who by the way

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is the consigliari mentor for one luelisando okay so look you know i'm not going to miss words with

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you i know you've gotten all submerged in this stuff and it's all mixed up in your brain but i'm

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trying to give a little clarity i know i'm a very but people hate that i'm so direct about this but

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you know i'm the kind of i tell people i'm a merri if you have a brain tumor i'm not going to

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tell you have a migraine right i'm gonna say bro i'm sorry you gotta you got a brain tumor it's got

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to come out but that's just how i run i'm a very direct person but the the so so that operation

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really was sad because man i really think what bigel i wanted to do and i remember meeting with

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him privately after the rockup fellow meeting is that he wanted to get on the inside of the tech

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and what was really going on with intelligence community because you know he was a lots of

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Vegas billionaire he was it he was an heir to a real estate fortune in Vegas and budget suites right

[2:11:00 - 2:11:06] ▶

with it and all that yeah so he had the money so he didn't need the money but he wanted to access

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so they find what your soft spot is you know where's your soft underbelly some people they just

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want to get rich some people they just want to get in the position of power some people if they're

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already rich and powerful they want to get on the inside of this big secret so that's how they

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got their hooks in him and i warned him of that same thing with Joe Fermidge they got pulled in

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and was this was this tech entrepreneur who got super anti-gravity yeah yeah yeah and he got

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totally gas lit and pulled into an operation ruined his life and then he got put in prison for some

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and i warned him this is going to be an op you're going to spend your money and all this time

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because he took the same bait he was wealthy and i met with him at the Mars cafe in south of

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market in san francisco way back in the 90s and i warned i said Joe you're gonna you're a mark

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for these guys ensuring of that same group of people intercepted him peter till was almost

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intercepted by some of these people for energy technology stuff yet with the how put off

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and some others peter yeah they were going to get a guy that i've worked with yeah they were

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going to get a hundred fifty million of his that would be fleshed down the toilet how put on

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no i don't think so yes sir i got a heads up and must to see senior most c i guy and i back channel

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that information to Eric Weinstein but yeah but we i've met with i've because i'm open about this i

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brought howl into the office but it didn't that nothing ended up happening so no but but he's

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getting he's they're putting him out you know look he's up in his what 80s i guess now yeah

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it's like a lot of these guys have to find a replacement but no he was an operative that was uh

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you know i look i probably his closest friend ever is on my team i mean or the whole back story

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same that was joctaleg great guy brilliant guy but at some point he got too far involved with

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that saying a ball of people and got corrupted and this is why you know in our

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uh documentary we talk about the document that he admits to having it's in his 1992 book

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a joctaleg wrote i've got the name of it and there's an entry where he talks about having a

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1985 and that was when he was really got involved with the kernel Alexander types and

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double bind types the advanced theoretical physics working group no no let me finish

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the document is a description of CIA operations in argentine in brosil to abduct peasants

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so that they think they're being abducted by aliens for its quote i'm quoting psychological

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warfare value now we've asked joctful later release that document he got very agitated

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again against my research producers and said no way because i think he knows that that's so

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that is the core of the cover up is the false convincing of the public of an alien threat

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but this is a black and white CIA document joctful he has and i know a couple other people have

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it but they've been threatened that outlines that operation so these abduction programs have

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operated not just us but also overseas for decades remember that's a 40 year old document 85

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and those programs have started well before then well i will say charles doggless jackson

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herand psychological warfare for the country and was operated in the psychological strategy board

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under gordon gray uh... uh... he showed up uh... at beddie and barney hills house two weeks after

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they encountered with the encounter so i've always found that to be kind of interesting and then he

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went on to work for life in time magazine and he was responsible for putting out this is a prudert

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film of jfk getting shot with missing frames right so maybe there's something kind of weird there

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i don't know what i'm telling you there is i mean this is i think this is the part of this there's

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i call it the myth the the myth all in the briefing document for the president i take out some of the

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names that i know are the operatives doing it but i have on it's a one-sheeter on one side is

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the myth and the others to truth and who are the purveyors of the myth and what is the actual

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fax of it yeah and i'm packing it is a very arduous complicate and i i'll admit

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i didn't know what i'm just telling you back in nineteen ninety ninety four night it came from being

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pulled in by people who wanted me to know the truth who are these deep throats

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some of these eight hundred people have debriefed but there are documents that would prove this

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like jokfully has that document the law enforcement and and the the president should say subpoena that

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do you think nixon was taken out over this issue with watergate i do i do i do

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he said deep throughout the real deep drought was a guy named mark felt who's a deputy director of

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the fb i correct in his biography he talks about nixon being shown covert technology and then there's

[2:16:06 - 2:16:13] ▶

this famous story of nixon showing up at jack e gleason's place in nineteen seventy three and telling

[2:16:13 - 2:16:19] ▶

him we have secret UFO technology taking him to homestead air force space and then jack e gleason

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gets obsessed with the UFOs his house become shaped like a uf o i know i know see is that story

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is that all true and i'm not sure true but it goes back further hmm so let's explain how

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national security in in the fifties maybe from the fifties on the chairman of the what's called

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the space council for the united states government is the vice president traditionally now they

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have a professional director but the vice president's chairman so nixon was chairman of the space

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council there an ison hour he was part of the team that betrayed ison hour along with these others

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so they circled their wagons and their limousines and pushed ison hour further out the picture

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fifty four twelve committee so this would they're very upset i mean obviously so nixon of course

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lost the election with jack kennedy and then he won in sixty eight so when he was going to come

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be in his second term he was going to be the person he thought would disclose all this and start

[2:17:22 - 2:17:28] ▶

bringing it forward but the organization that's way more powerful than the presidency said oh no

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you're not you know yes i am oh no you're not so watergate did happen but i mean there's that kind

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of black bag stuff happens all the time in politics i mean it's not i'm an excuse in it it's just

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there's a dirty business a filthy business so what happened is that there was a young reporter

[2:17:46 - 2:17:53] ▶

named bob bordered who was actually naval intelligence in pentagon he was not a journalist he got

[2:17:54 - 2:18:02] ▶

moved over to washington post happened to have this whistleblower who then gas you know

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you know the cover was let's expose the corruption that nixon did which he did

[2:18:09 - 2:18:14] ▶

but it was really to remove him because he was hellbent i'm bringing this stuff out so a similar thing

[2:18:16 - 2:18:22] ▶

of course happened to bill clinton the whole monica luensky thing linda trip was an army

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intelligence in essay a person was put right beside monica luensky at a cubicle to get

[2:18:28 - 2:18:35] ▶

social engineering befriending her the information about that affair wow and then it was set up

[2:18:35 - 2:18:40] ▶

because when he was asked about a clinton lied about it under oath which led to his impeachment

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that was also when so when hillary said i'm i'm like excusing any kind of behavior i'm not trying to

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share but i'm just telling you this is how it is done all right so they can either kill you

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they can threaten you they can do all kinds of stuff where they can set up something like that

[2:19:01 - 2:19:07] ▶

because very few people get at that level of national politics sort of squeaky clean

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can we and and they're going to know that and they can use it against you

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so this is where people talk about wallfare and all the stuff going on

[2:19:17 - 2:19:21] ▶

it's been done for decades i mean let's face it next and weaponize the irs and the doj long before

[2:19:22 - 2:19:29] ▶

people in the trump circles sort of talk about law fair that's a proven thing

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do you think there's any connection and next and was a republican yeah right so i mean you know

[2:19:34 - 2:19:39] ▶

this kind of dirty trick stuff has been going on since forever speaking of dirty trick stuff

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is there any connection between jeffery upstein and ufos i have no idea and i actually

[2:19:45 - 2:19:50] ▶

the salacious stuff related to that it's like oh my god um i'm not excusing any kind of

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underage whatever but you know i think that that was probably a op to try to pull in certain people

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and then have a black milk file on them yeah it seems like it when i'm speaking with some

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absolute knowledge about it because there's a very senior person in the national security apparatus

[2:20:10 - 2:20:15] ▶

who is was part of that who's being kept on a short leash because they have a black milk file on it

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and so that's how it's done so you know i could do a whole five hour podcast with you about the

[2:20:23 - 2:20:31] ▶

techniques of counterintelligence and disinformation on this and the kind of dirty tricks run on people

[2:20:31 - 2:20:37] ▶

and if they can't get something real they'll make it up because with a i in deep fakes yeah

[2:20:37 - 2:20:42] ▶

i mean they could show that everyone in this room have an orgy together right they can take my

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voice and make me say anything they can create any docs they want it'll look absolutely authentic

[2:20:48 - 2:20:54] ▶

in fact i just had that happen last week my iphone was hacked into and all kinds of stuff

[2:20:54 - 2:20:58] ▶

cheesies i was threatened oh no oh this happened this has been happening since 91

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do you think that there aren't isn't tesla's stuff still classified by the way and then i know

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towns and browns is classified by the navy so we're talking about class classifications of all

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these other things and in declassifications of all these other things what about the science can

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like fundamental science shouldn't be classified can we get tesla's work up and so here's the problem

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all of the everything that doesn't fly or teleport should and could be decal i mean a lot of it

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be medical i mean i've seen some technologies at a underground lab on the mexican american border

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really alpesto that you can regrow a lamb you could severed spinal cord could be corrected

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are you serious yes but that's not being widely distributed no because the physics behind you

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i don't know if you have a physics background the physics behind that scalar no trans-dimensional

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physics would be able to also quickly to any scientist be converted to oh i can generate energy

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from that all right so and if you and the energy sector that runs the planet where everyone's

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dependent on this line of super tankers and power plants and all of that the whole bread and

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woods with the petrodollar the dollar being the reserve currency because of petroleum basically

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a ramco and saudi ray was basically set up by the cia so all of that integrated macro economic

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issue is really one of the core reasons for the secrecy and so any technology that would open

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that door they don't want out because it threatens the current order yeah and when i explained

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this to the honorable paul helier who had been minister of defense i was one of the reasons why

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he came out publicly we did a press conference together in toronto his before he contacted me he

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contacted a four star general in the united states who's he read a book called the day after

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rawswell by fellow corso and then he realized this four star general he said is this tree says oh

[2:23:04 - 2:23:12] ▶

we have that and more that general had been read on to it and so he called me up and we met

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and i spent a lot of time at his place in toronto and i explained to him the whole macro economic

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order how it runs who runs it etc and it turned out he was a macro economist he's i've never

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connected ufos and et's to the science and technology part dealing with energy i say well bingo

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that's the heart of it right there that and the militarization of the relationship between humans

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and non-human so that the military industrial complex can be this global behemoth that keeps

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sucking money out of the people and governments in endless war have you heard the name tim taylor ever

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no i don't know him what about ron pandalfi have you heard that name sure what do you think of

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him is he because he comes up a lot in this topic as you know somebody interested in it and uh

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yes he i you know look and you you've brammed names a lot i you know uh elana rusavelt said uh

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yeah she did so i you're insulting me but no no no no no no no no no small minds talk about people

[2:24:20 - 2:24:27] ▶

mediocre minds talk about events great minds talk about ideas see you don't want to talk about

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well there are a lot of you can name a list forever yes of course he was been has been involved in

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those things and um i think he he's another person who's uh very knowledgeable and

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had been read on very early on in his career and who i think really i believe really wants a correct

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outcome okay okay so i think there are a lot of people that are you know what one of uh

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one of jakes guy said to me um wonderful man brilliant a named dawn paul i don't know if you

[2:25:03 - 2:25:11] ▶

don't paul yeah i've heard great thing i saw him get interviewed and just wonderful man and he

[2:25:11 - 2:25:17] ▶

had picked me up once in la when i was doing something and and he dropped me off i don't know

[2:25:17 - 2:25:24] ▶

arabian b were austin and he said uh he said dr. gyrth thank you for what you're doing for those of us

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stuck on the other side um what when he meant by that we're stuck on the in the side of these

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illegally run shadowy legacy programs but they're patriots they're good men and women they want

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out but they need a way out so that's what i'm trying to get the president through these five

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executive orders here they are one page awesome it's putting his hands yeah he has this very cool

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is that one of them has to be this complete amnesty and immunity and physical protection

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of these people so they can come forward with everything they have right but you can't expect people

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to do that naked uncovered when if they're doing so could result in their their families being killed

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or they're being imprisoned under false pretenses of course so i tell people why

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what good is there having an FBI is what i'd say to mr. cash uh patel if it's not going to be used

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against a worse criminal enterprise within the us yeah the true deep state yeah that is victimizing

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patriots and heroes yeah trying to come forward i mean this nonsense needs to come to a screeching

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halt and a lot of these men and women that's what they're waiting for and we got really close to it

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when the congress was supposed to pass that bill to give them safe harbor amnesty and protect them

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but it it was gutted by Turner Rogers below see some other people for the skeptics out there

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do you have a most kind of visceral convincing piece of evidence that you've seen in your life or

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your imposition of either a document or a piece of material where you're like this is disclosure

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for me you know this is this is kind of obvious it was the weight of the evidence and you know i

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don't have a dead ET body or or a craft that can haul out but that's what i'm hoping this special

[2:27:32 - 2:27:38] ▶

operations team will require well there you go because we know where they are do you feel like

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you're being so i know where the under you know if you look at our map yeah that's in

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little hold that up this is the brief there is a map in there that actually has

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where all the key black sites are and where all this stuff is we'll throw it on and it but it's

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all based on frankly intel from all these whistleblowers yeah we had a deep underground military

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bases are across the us in bechtoe is built a lot of them i think we use techniques used by the

[2:28:03 - 2:28:08] ▶

Nazis actually after and well no we know because in our archive we have the actual 1960s patent

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for a nuclear powered tunneling device and let me explain how it works it goes through bedrock

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and basically turns it into glass well and so you have connectors from

[2:28:22 - 2:28:27] ▶

Nellis area 51 to Edwards go underground boom dougway from the capital out to the mountains in

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vergenia these have all been bill now of course they don't want to disclose because it's a nuclear

[2:28:37 - 2:28:42] ▶

powered thing if it malfunctioned but it's a nuclear powered device that bechtel and other

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corporations have used to build not only the connectors with the deep underground facilities

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most people home stiff subterranean facilities some people home dumps deep underground military

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bases but it's a bit of a misnomer because military would connote the legal military so you have

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the shadow government military the innoe center inno we talked about and you have the conventional

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now when i was briefing the senior investigators for senate intelligence committee when i first started

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meeting with them they didn't know we had these facilities they didn't know we had man made UFOs

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they didn't know the nro had neutrino light detectors on them picking up the signature of the

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et craft and knocking them down they didn't know in the list goes on and on and interestingly the

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main guy was talking with in his portfolio of oversight for the senate intelligence committee

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was the nro cia and nsa totally had no knowledge of it so i tell people this is where it gets scary

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from for me as a young doctor when i discovered something this important is being

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taken out of the hands of the oversight of we the people's government the the government that

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we elect and the people we appoint and then the people who are in that system because they're there

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are basically not answering to the constitution the president or the will of the people and the congress

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they're answering to this cabal of corrupt enterprises and that is a very dangerous thing

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when you're dealing with technology at this level because and the human future and this is where

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i'm fiercely defy you know what it is i feel like i'm a one man anti defamation league for

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et's because everyone out there wants to have the good ones in the bad ones where we're going to have

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star wars and cowboys and indian in space and an endless war of i'm going oh my god can you just

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grow up out of that i mean this is so first of all so stupid i mean it's dumb dumb i mean it's like

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but it's hard to speculate on these that i mean no it isn't we don't have great data like it's

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we you know because you haven't studied my stuff we have great data i've been looking through it

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don't go look up to this reference at jockeva ways document from the CIA has it black and white

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says we're conducting the abductions but it's not just in the united states these operations are

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global uh-huh so again you want the other thing i said so in the skiff a secure compartment

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information facility i'm in there and there's a map on the wall and it's a normal map of the world

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with all the geopolitical boundaries i said see that map the boundary between america and

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canada erasit the boundary between mongolia and china erasit the boundary between

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wherever yeah india and china it's gone yeah this organization moves with alacrity

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across the globe because their technology allow complete covert movement

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invisible movement and they have assets everywhere we know that there have been

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apparently a man-made UFO that went down in russia we've gotten that confirmed recently

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from a special operations team wow and there was one that crashed and went down in northern

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aron that we had to try to go in and stop down but you know we have the this is the next one that

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just came out out hurts the bend i might have these three big puncture things in my abdomen so

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this is disclosure and illustrated history and it's a 220 30 page book um that has you know all the

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we got what what the rare one is yeah so they have all these cases oh here's some a here's

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a the tic tac oh there you go sandy agave california 2004 yeah but we have one in there as a contrast

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from 1967 in pence oveña and 1991 off the azores oh here is the rathion triangle at

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for urwin that is man-made wow and the guy who saw it in detail because he picked up some night scuds

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he was told not to uh-huh saw that there was this one and then they were holographically projecting

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several others wow this could be used in a in a false alien invasion you know like a hoaxed invasion

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and then that later he and his wife got abducted by this thing yeah and tortured whoa

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and it was rathion and everyone i would say i have a million people but i think it was rathion

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oh yeah because he said the men who took him there were rathion operatives they took him aside one

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to showing this but but not without the nice gifts so he saw more detail than they wanted and for

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that reason it ruined his life steven digna wonderful man wow and warner vambrana was convinced that

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there would be this sort of false flag sure because he knew when he died in 74

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that was all fully operational you work with his assistant right his last spokesperson for his life

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uh-carozen's on our team wonderful woman yeah she's been trying to get a treaty signed

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that should have been signed decades ago keeping these weapons out of space

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um didn't she also tell you though that all that you find in rathion that warner vambrana

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use psychotronic weapons technology against her or something use some psychotronic technique

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within against her it was for him to transmit to her uh a speech he wanted to give to a big conference

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well and he used like a a mind interface yeah a neural link sort of thing but without the wires

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you know what ealons working with with neural link think of it what what jakes talked about with

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psionics think of me and a one this is where my specialty came in back and after my contact experience

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in 73 is um i realized that these civilizations have technologies that interface directly

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with coherent thought so not just any scattered thing but like if you like in conscience the consciousness

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field is not limited by space time and which means it is essentially omnipresent so if you

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operated a level of understanding that and then with thought intent you can reach any place in

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space time but also you can transmit information that way and it can be received but they're not

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just doing it telepathically like like gurus they have technologies it would look like a little box

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or a little uh device that can receive directed thought can send and transmit so in 1991 i wrote a

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paper when all through the aerospace industry and CIA which kind of also put me on the radar

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talking about technology assisted consciousness right where that your technology can assist you

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in the ability but also consciousness assisted technology where your thought biometric film thought

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can actually turn on a computer or affect remote places but it can be done innately you know just

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through those powers and abilities at some telepathic and telekinetic people have but it can be

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done technologically assisted so that's why i call it TAC and CAT so that's in my first book

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extraterrestrial contact the evidence and implications but it's from 99 you still get it but i

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think that that describes this and that is exactly what they have so interstellar communications don't

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involve a smartphone going at the speed of light they involve node-to-node quantum entanglement so if

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you know quantum entanglement is every point in space is connected to every other um in sort of a

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holographic non-locality and so it go whether you're an andromeda galaxy and you're here two and a

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half million light years you're not going with a you know with a rise in signal at the speed of light

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because they take two and a half million years to go one way answer the call it'd be another two

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and a half million years it's going node-to-node through entanglement but there are technologies that assist

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with that but when you get to that level of physics you also get into the telekinetic

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telepathic capabilities which can be interface technologically so that's actually what we're

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doing with CE5 contact we're not using any technologies but we know our front the visitors

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they have it so if you can remove view them connect to them and then invite them we don't

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summon them i told Jake don't use the word summon you summon your butler if you're the king of

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angling use up some of your valet these are not your servants it's it's a it's a disrespectful term

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we invite them and so we say what we're trying to do is create a raw prochement and a contact

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between human and non-human for peaceful purposes we're not here to sum them over and kill them

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so that's the that's the philosophy let's say or ethos behind CE5 contact and you know there

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millions of people around the world doing that and amazing that gets me the most grief you know

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Jake and i've talked about other people talked about i said but it's also why the CIA and military

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intelligence took us most seriously yeah because they knew it worked i mean they knew when we had this

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group in 92 on a beach near Pensacola and we had this 60 people for a week and demonstrating this

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for these craft just pop up right into right there they seem to take intense interest in people who

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attract you up so in you there's Chris bledso this case in North Carolina where how pop in my

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or this long time now and then he's been intercepted by Jim send me back another disinformation people

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who are eschatologists so do you think he or they're they're they're fanatics who want to end of the

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world do you think Chris bledso actually saw something or oh sure i'm likely he i don't know him

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yeah because by time i learned about he'd already been intercepted but you think he got

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intercept he saw something and then we absolutely absolutely uh-huh most people are uh-huh you know

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it's you think they're interest these these military intel guys their interest is in eschatology is

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and like no no i mean like i said you know don't you can't be simplistic here um-hmm summer about

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macroeconomics power control um-hmm military industrial endless war others have this sort of belief

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system yeah that we have to have some kind of endgame armageddon nonsense in order for

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christ to come back or the messiah if you're Jewish or whatever or the might trove or the Buddhist

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you know all of that is of course i think a misinterpretation of things i don't think it's the end

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of the world is the end of this era the opening of another a golden age so i think if you look at

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what the so-called current cycle of the last 400 thousand years that's one cycle i think we're

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coming to the end of that cycle an opening a cycle that'll be universal that'll be about another

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500 thousand years that'll be marked by universal peace not just world peace interstellar travel

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a very advanced society here and people being liberated financially and and by the means of work

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so their work week will become ten fifteen hours and they'll be pursuing the development of

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higher states of consciousness and all these other abilities that are innately within us the human

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potential part so i think that's where we should be going now there are other people want it's just

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the it's like the hopey prophecy one line goes up and the other one terminates the question is

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do we want to be on the termination line in which case the only way to go forward is for our

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civilization come out of the dust like the phoenix out of the out of the ruins right from the ashes

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which can happen but you know why choose that when we can choose something else yeah so right now

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the door is open for us to make that choice individually collectively the people who are

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profaring false information about the alien threat that we don't have these technologies if you

[2:41:16 - 2:41:22] ▶

say we don't have them then everything going on you can ascribe to aliens when it's not that's

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the false flag that's what i'm going to go after because people who say that they're lying they're

[2:41:29 - 2:41:34] ▶

either ignorant or they're lying now Elon Musk recently said on jr. Rogen he has on all excess

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past through Lockheed and Norse Rupin yeah we don't have any of these technologies the best technology

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out there is his rocket to be honest with you i don't know the gentleman i have no idea

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if he's not been read on or if he's deliberately deceiving what would be your guess i wouldn't

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wait your one because i could see it either way because of the level of people i've met with

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and met with recently he's got to know if if in the world in which you have foes and zero point

[2:42:05 - 2:42:10] ▶

energy all these things are real he's got he's got to be the you know but no no but here's the

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problem is having all access i was once at a meeting with uh a chairman of sri and at and t

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do they have compartment operations that have dealt with this bellwaps and all that this is back

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in the nineties and they said to me we suspect there are projects in our companies stand for research

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dealing with this but we're not read on to them so there's a very big mistake people make oh he's

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the president he's chairman of senate intelligence he's another general i briefed was the head of

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the defense intelligence agency now for people don't know dia defense intelligence agency is the top

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military intelligence organization for the whole Pentagon and military like cia is for

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civilian and i'm briefed a three star general patrick hues he had absent we got in him briefing materials

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before the meeting like i had for almo wilson and these sort of things he had no knowledge and when

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he made an inquiry he just got brushed off and yet i have a disclosure project witness at work for

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dia and with and also in our own imaging these objects okay out in space and he was very upset

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general hues because i'm in the conference room for the general and i said look there are people on

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your staff who absolutely have been read into this and they're lying to you how does that work

[2:43:43 - 2:43:49] ▶

like just as far as they're being no clear chain of command like how do you have pockets of middle

[2:43:49 - 2:43:55] ▶

management is that a right and and then hire up you know they're they're superiors don't know

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what's going on because i've heard stories or they're huge or they're huge organizations and the

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people who are corrupt who are getting money they get paid back door by the court and their cutouts

[2:44:05 - 2:44:12] ▶

their operatives and you know i mean there are all kinds of nox non-official cover people so this

[2:44:12 - 2:44:18] ▶

is really an issue of both corporate and american sovereignty because it's you're sort of you

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have this like backdoor funneling of money in many yes i think there's the legal black budget

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of united states right that the the president and gang of eight the top people in the congress

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know about sure not all the congressman and i deal with those folks but then there's the illegal

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black budget and i tell people let's make it simple for the average person you know if we get

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billed two billion dollars for a b2 stealth bomber it's probably costing less than a hundred

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million to make it i mean come on once you've made a few of them does b2 still have five field brown

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anything is down the ground well wait let me finish the rest of the money goes out the back door

[2:45:00 - 2:45:06] ▶

of the other one point eight or one point nine billion out the back door into these clandestine

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illegal man made UFO projects so you know i've been over sites where the these objects that are

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man may come up out of the desert mm-hmm up to an opening come up into the air and they're

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100% man made and i would say that almost everyone in the normal government let's call it the

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regular con could would think it was oh my god it's a uap well i guess it is

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it's unexplained to them it's you know it's an unknown to them but see that's where it's dangerous

[2:45:43 - 2:45:49] ▶

because one of the reasons i had the meeting with general hues was one of his colleagues

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if you look at our disclosure witness merrill shane mcdowl look it up it's in here

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he was working under sink Atlantic command the commander in chief Atlantic command

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in Norfolk and they went to a full code zebra alert which means the facility shut down you had to

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have zebra stripes on your badge or you were shocked by the marines there with m16s everyone

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had to be cleared out so i've been there as an underground place where war war three would be

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fought all the nuclear submarines that we have i've been in there my military escort took me in

[2:46:26 - 2:46:31] ▶

admiral train admiral harry train back then this was in the eighties an object came in off the

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coast of nuffinland and it was what we said about jack kennedy trying to de-conflict this problem

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with the Soviets we thought it was a Soviet object or missile and so he picked up the red line

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to the Soviet Union this was eighties it wasn't theirs was in hours or that he knew of

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it came off down the coast ended up being on five radar stations we deployed an aircraft to shoot

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it down and it couldn't but it took head gun camera and the admiral and this gentleman saw that

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footage i don't have it it's somewhere and but the admiral was shaken to his man he had no idea what

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this was we could have gone the nuclear war over this mishap think about it the guy sitting there

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some commander in chief at lannick command four star admiral not read into this so when i found

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out the head of the defense intelligence agency wasn't read on he's the top of that whole system

[2:47:36 - 2:47:43] ▶

for military intelligence i realized this is really dangerous that people that level of our government

[2:47:43 - 2:47:50] ▶

are completely unaware of this and would could mistake a man made ufo with an alien one or something

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from another country and trigger war war three either on off planet or on planet so this

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information is of enormous national security consequence but it's never been treated that way

[2:48:04 - 2:48:10] ▶

see this is the problem you know it's movies it's podcasts it's entertainment it's but no this is

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of the greatest level of national security of anything i've ever heard of and i've been around

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a long time looking at a lot of spooky stuff so that is where this is how a country like hours

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or others get they get sort of stumbled into yeah a war is what happened with their rock

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enough gannister wars yeah so we have to be careful here because here we're not talking about

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kinetic war with boom boom you know bombs and cannons and the meat grinder of Ukraine and and

[2:48:42 - 2:48:49] ▶

russia we're talking about something that's very dangerous yeah orders of magnitude more dangerous

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and it simply is not being looked at and managed in a way now these executive orders yeah that

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one i mentioned the ones about the whistleblowers and having a an operation to get these

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stood down you know like the facilities that have been targeting these craft that are

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not going to be stood down because that could lead to war three and we need one that

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requires all these operations to fully disclose within six months or the people involved would be

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prosecuted for treason and other crimes we need an executive order to authorize an advanced

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diplomatic team based on c5 contact to make peaceful contact with these non-human because there

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has been no response from humans that it's been anything but denial or violent very

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ridiculous that's why I started this whole project 1990 it was to address this issue that they're

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there but how are we reaching out to them nobody is not the united nations no foreign ministry

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our state department it's all off process an unknown subject so that has to be done

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and we need an executive order authorizing the review and release of the technologies as I said

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but excluding things that could be used as a weapon system right but things that would

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emeliorate the environmental problems and poverty on the planet and eventually give the whole world

[2:50:26 - 2:50:32] ▶

with this executive chairman of this big corporation said free energy for the whole world

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because you're pulling energy out of this subatomic field hydrogen atom is key to this by the way

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interesting yeah well you will get we're getting to the weeds or physics but if you were able to

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separate the oxygen and hydrogen bonds oh the hydrogen atom on some of the atom so what people

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don't here's the secret about Stan Myers little giddy he didn't know it at the time because they

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didn't have the tools to measure it it was an empirical observation I mean it was just observed

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in the real world so the empiricism is the foundation of science you know like we can observe

[2:51:10 - 2:51:16] ▶

the effect of something like a substance that's in fox glove herb digitoxin which actually is

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used in medicine for congestive heart failure well it was discovered a hundred and some years ago

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we observed the effect but it was only very recently that we knew what the actual mechanism

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of action at a molecular and physics level was of this 100-year-old medicine same thing with

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aspirin we knew it had these effects we didn't know how it worked until not that long ago so this man

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Stan Meyer observed an effect that it's certain frequencies water would dissociate

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into hydrogen and oxygen at less than the ferridae constant the amount of energy needed to dissociate

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it what he didn't know which has been the document we mentioned this in our documentary the

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law century if anyone wants to look at it go to two be it's up there for free and it describes

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that when you do the very electrostatic high voltage system he was using it's certain frequencies

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it creates these tiny little light ball lightening effects that it kind of tiny little explosions

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that activate and perturb stimulate that zero point quantum vacuum field and that's why the

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energy that he was getting out in other words if you just took the energy of oxygen and water

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I mean oxygen and hydrogen that if you separated them into the due gases and burned it

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that he was getting much more energy than that but he didn't know where it was coming from

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that's where it's coming from so now we know the physics of that and I would like to see if anyone's

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listening who's actually venture capital let's start a venture capital fund to do this

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because I've got the people who can do it but we don't have the funding but here's a warning

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to you money-grubbing horrors it's gonna it's gonna be open sourced uh-huh there's gonna be

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like GitHub is gonna be put out openly to the public we have a mutual friend Adam Curry he's super

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deep in a lot of these technology oh yeah I get a wonderful guy it's great yeah big fan of his

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but someone's gonna have to actually set up a secure lab that would be on you know blockchained

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but open to the internet everything going on is known in real time new secret cell back

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so you're not gonna do the whole here's the problem people think they're so clever

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they're gonna work on this and we'll be secret yeah until they kill you the stand-myer guys

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you know the those guys who got the stand-myer collection and that Torroyd all of them at one

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were killed and before they were killed that Lord I won't say his name Lord so and so

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out of the United Kingdom who is a funder called me up and said Dr. Greer we need your help

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daylight in a dollar short they're after them they they figured out how these things work

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and they they think they need to move their lab from Michigan to another country I said bro

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you're gonna have to move your lab to another star system this organization will hunt you down

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anywhere and what they need to do is dump everything they have through blockchained on the internet

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and out to the public but see they were had such a excuse my language they had a heart on

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for getting the money and monetizing it and pat keeping it's you know their own little secret thing

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next thing I hit they so I wrote a whole paid I don't know a couple page thing strategy for them

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I think it's in our archive it is but taking the name off of the Lord so and so because he

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doesn't want to be known publicly but that's amazing though somebody in the house of

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lords was funding this free energy well I mean everyone's interested in this if you've got a

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thinking mind and you're concerned about the world if you care about the world at all but it was

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done incorrectly so and I warned them at the front end of it I said if you do this the way you're

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playing to do it you're dead men walking sure enough a few years later I meet with a guy in Orange

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County who knew the one survivor of that he says and the guy was crying like a baby said all the

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rest were killed as that of course what you think would happen they were obscure secret unprotected

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and you don't I don't care if you're Elon Musk you don't have enough money to keep yourself safe

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from that crowd how do you think you so you have to open source it how do you think you've been

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able to survive of a attempt have been made on your life right oh sure yeah and you do you feel

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do you feel protected by the ETs yes you do yeah even guided by them yep wow yeah that's fascinating

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you have a security team and wow that's amazing like a physical security team where it's more like

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sort of a femoral as far as how they know it's both yeah but they I mean look they can move between

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dimensions and wow you know I put look when I died one of the great things have

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haven't been so second died this is kind of worse go something but you if you have that kind of

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experience I'm not particularly religious at all but in terms of organized religion but spiritual

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yes and Jake and I've talked about that is that what you're afraid of what you know if you know

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there if you know that your conscious self continues in higher and higher states of consciousness

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forever why are you so you know make my day and kill me I've seen the other side it's beautiful

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so I don't want to I mean look I have 12 grandkids and four daughters I mean I'm not going anywhere

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unless it's my time maybe my ticket gets punched I'm out you know but um so I sort of like

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give it to the great spirit you know and say what happens happens but what it means is it liberates

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you from having your life guided through fear so remember how controlling fear is

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fear of the aliens fear of of armageddon fear of being tortured fear of poverty fear of having

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your secrets exposed fear they these evil doers these thugs control through fear yeah but remember fear

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is the mind killer it makes people take leave of their intellect and their spiritual faculties

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so that is why demagogues religious political what have you they're very adept at

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utilizing fear for control that's my big concern and my beef with most people in the UFO subculture

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who put out these fearsome dystopian views of the ets but also at the same breath cover up the

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fact we have the technology to stage everything that would look et that isn't so with with that being

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said if it's just at a UFO conference of the few hundred aficionados of this that's one thing

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but when it gets to where someone like that is in major media or talking to Don Jr this nonsense

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I have a problem with that because that has consequences so people need to be very careful

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about that because there's a whole team of people who are attached to senior national security now

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who know that's going on and if if we can get a law enforcement operations stood up not just

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investigate because we're doing that but to actually act take action anyone on the wrong side of

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this wittingly knowingly is going to be in a world of trouble because you're really talking about

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colluding with a treasonous group of people who are an imminent threat to national security

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so I say that and people say are you making a threat I said no I'm just saying that

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it goes to follow that once people at a certain level a government realized that they've been had

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and they've been deceived and lied to they have the mechanism to fix it now maybe it would be fixed

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clandestinely we wouldn't know about it fine but I'm saying to the public anyone who has

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actionable intelligence needs to come forward to us very soon if you're on the wrong side of this

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get we can get you on the right side and we can get you immunity right we can

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now even without an executive order law enforcement at a certain level has the ability to immunize

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people if big if they completely come clean so it's it's transactional in the sense that you

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would have to come clean with everything and not be involved any further into illegal operations

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and then you would be immunized so I was told a few months ago that can be done so I'm making

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an appeal to people now if you're going to do it now's the time to do it you don't want to you

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want to be on the right side of history you don't want to be on the wrong side of this

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because ultimately truth won't come out about it and it's going to be better for people

[3:00:19 - 3:00:26] ▶

if they do what Jake and his guys are trying or just starting to do a little bit and step over

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into the correct side of it what do you think of his new private venture his company oh I don't

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know I mean you know wishing luck I mean so long it's it's non-kinetic against the ETs it's fine

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I think mostly what they're encountering or our stuff okay interesting because it's on a range

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that where our stuff might fly or something look remember 80 90 percent of everything people see

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out there they're calling a UAP is our stuff uh-huh well I mean and a lot of it is so advanced now

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it can mimic an ET wow object so it takes a lot of information uh-huh an experience to distinguish

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the two but he would have the experience right to distinguish no he even admits uh-uh that it's

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at the point that an eye will admit that as I said earlier this technology curve keeps going up

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of human reverse engineering so when you've had some of the highest IQ brains in the world gifted

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who worked in these programs studying the real ET material material science physics all of it

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you're going to eventually be at a level of close to parity where what happens is that even a very

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experienced operator like Jake and his guys or me and I've been involved in contact with ET since I

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was eight years old seeing them you know and then even more intimate contact you can be easily

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deceived and this is dangerous so this is why 30 years ago I raised the alarm bell this is going on

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but technology doesn't stand still it's not like we got the ARV from 19 late 50 60s you know that

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marked mechanicalist drawings and sure you know bread sorenson went to this air show in 1988

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that's in here you have the mom of bear and papa bear acorn shaped uh UFOs yes and he was

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shown this video and he was with this Italian financier and they go to this sort of back of the

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house thing and then they have this these magneto hydrodynamic drives underneath and so yeah but the

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hanger at Norton which is been decommitted 88 that was an air show to get more money from the Reagan

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era people and there were three of them there was the baby the mama and the dad granddad exactly

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and those three that was real but you know when that was those were built when were they built

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late 50s early 60s well they had a lot of weird terror on them a quarter of the

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interior if you I have a full transcript of bread sorenson talking to an aerospace writer

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and those components on the inside were from the mercury space capsule era well late 50s early

[3:03:11 - 3:03:19] ▶

60s but then James Allen the creator of the movie about mark McCannlish zero point or whatever

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he died of an aggressive form of cancer and they found heavy metals in his autopsy I don't know if

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you're familiar oh yeah I mean look a lot of people my team I've had I was me and my best friend

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and assistant at the time and I remember Congress all got aggressive metastatic cancers Jesus

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yeah I almost I had metastatic malignant melanoma you think that was brought on by this

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oh yeah absolutely we know how it's done uh I've gone through hell yeah but you know and

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but the point I'm making is those the folks involved in these programs who want to come forward

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you know they are at some significant risk until the government of the the good guys let's say

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in government representing we the people who aren't read into this stand up an operation to stop it

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because otherwise it's an unchecked rogue power with unbelievably malicious intent and you know you

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can't let that go on for I mean it's been going on for 70 years yeah can't go on for another 10

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I don't think it can go on for another five this is why I think whether you love or like him

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the current president that administration is going to have to deal with this

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if we're at technological parity but they like it or not if we're at technological parity with

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these extraterrestrials how can we be sure that the crashes that or not even crashes the the

[3:04:47 - 3:04:54] ▶

vehicles that Jake Barber and his team retrieved were in fact of extraterrestrial origin the egg

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and the egg gone at these test ranges in California if we're at parity and it's hard to distinguish

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how do we know well you you have to actually get to the point where who's on board and is it a man-made

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alien or a real one because we have man-made ones that are both robotic and partially biological

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is there anything about his testimony that makes you confident that you know I look I think he's

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seems very sophisticated and experienced and no he he is definitely dealt with retrieving

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the non-human but he's also has seen and seen the testing of the man-made ones okay and so it's his

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experience with both that gives him convictions yes and then it's hard to say because a lot of

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stuff is classified as far as the difference is or whatever because I'm just trying to think

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through it first principles for me and I'm like I don't know and I go through the same algorithm when

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I'm out there with my team looking at something got it you know is it real or is it memory acts like

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the old commercials you know you know is it a well-done human-fect semily yeah or is it an actual

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extraterrestrial vehicle or an h i craft now the best way to do it is is if the if that object

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it responds very clearly to what I call the coherent fault intention that ain't ours that's

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ET so one of the tests we do is conscious mind matter consciousness technology interface

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and if that is gets confirmed very likely it's ET if it doesn't I'm kind of agnostic about it

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and say well that might have been hours it might have been theirs and without enough data

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who knows and we have had experiences where the ET's themselves have teleported right into our

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circle or near our circle we have a couple great photographs of them why are you so controversial

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I tweeted today that I'd be speaking to you I was very excited for this is for me this is a you

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know long time coming I was really excited just that deep with you and I want to say most people

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were pretty positive on Twitter but there's a subset of people that are like ask them about ask

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them about the flares at the CE5 they like you see put it yeah you know that was put out I'm going

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we I don't know anyone who's ever done that it any of our events I certainly have it so you're on

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record that's that's fake according to you that's 100% yeah 100% but here's what's gonna happen

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anything like that could be an orb mm-hmm if you want someone who wants to defame you to say oh well

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that was something Greer paid someone first of all I don't have the assets to do that and secondly

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I've never done something like that put me under a sodium pentathol mm-hmm but those things are

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put out there to discredit someone who's actually telling the truth the whole truth and nothing but

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the truth that's what they don't want to hear they want you to tell a partial truth that

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comports with the false disclosure so there's two disclosures starting to happen these the actual

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truthful disclosure and there's the truth that serves the secret agenda mm-hmm in 1999 1999

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go look it up I wrote a paper and it's called when disclosure serves secrecy so when a disclosure

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is spun in the direction Allah Elisando Allah shehan Allah Gary Nolan Allah shehan you know like she

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yeah well he was our lawyer but then he went over to Elisando oh would you ever debate

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uh Elisando oh sure no problem I think he's gonna be in town tomorrow yeah all the time I'm

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on you have any I'm on another show and then I fly up tomorrow night and I'm injured so okay but

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this is the I don't know if you showed this when when mr. Herrera was there oh yeah he had a

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model of this oh good good good yeah so just so to so this is one of the cases in this new book by

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the way everyone can order this it's hard and solve copy that's an awesome book yeah yeah and

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Michael Shrat is a great uh researcher and researcher no he didn't do the illustration oh he didn't

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do the illustration no those were done by a professional artist okay okay and some of them he had

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had done before we had well he helped organize your archive right yes yes former Lockheed Martin

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yep yeah he but not doing this stuff he was a drafting and doing stuff that conventional okay

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mr. Shrat was not part of the skunkworks got it got it by the way yeah James Goodall Jim Goodall's

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friend of mine and he probably was the last man to talk to Ben Rich Ben Rich for he died yeah said

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you know Ben Rich said uh anything you can imagine that you've seen a Star Trek and this and that

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we already have done at the skunkworks and then he said it's not at area 51 it's out in the desert

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if you want to talk regarding Jim Goodall i'll be happy to get him on the phone right

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right this very second if you want to we'll do this live let's let's call it this is awesome

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hey Jim are you there oh that's okay that's okay so just a quick review i'm doing this in real time

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i'm in i'm in Austin Texas i'm with Jesse Michaels i'm doing an interview we were talking about

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John Lear we were talking about your good friend at you know where so could could you talk about

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you know paraphrase here talk about what Ben Rich told you at the hospital just before he passed away

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just before Ben Rich passed away uh when i was talking to him he told me at the end of a 45

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minute conversation he said Jim we have things out in the desert and he wasn't referring to

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area 51 we have things on the desert that is 50 years beyond what you can comprehend

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that i can't comprehend the hell of a lot uh and he said if you see if you see movies like

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Star Trek or Star Wars we've been there done that or decided it wasn't what is the effort

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i've been to that site a videotape and photographs from my iPhone flying in a chopper over

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the Lockheed Skunk Works site where the manmade stuff comes up wow so when i gave that to senate

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intelligence committee in um september of 23 about year here and a half ago about three weeks later

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someone saw through the bolt that holds my mountain bike seat on and it fell and i went down and

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my left leg came off my foot came off you see the pictures and these two bones are in the air

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my left shoulder was ripped off and my right lower abdomen was split i had four surgeries

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in three months that was an attempt on your life and who know i mean it's somebody's

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mess with that so um but you know i went through rehab and physical therapy and i'm back working

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out and i was fine until this happened because i leg press 700 pounds and i work out hard 700 pounds

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hmm oh my god yeah that's amazing i work out i mean i'm an old guy but i try to stay strong um

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let's say people i would yeah and june june i'll be 70 in june 28th june 7 so i just work out hard but

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luckily because i work out hard you know i was in good enough shape that the rehab period

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you know it was hard and i mean because i had no arm or leg i was in a wheelchair

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and anyone who knows me knows i'm very active and it was like that was torture

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so but i recovered and um been fine to my appendix ruptured yesterday but you don't need

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your appendix uh vestigial organ that's right that's right that's right i think when the nurse was

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rolling me out last night at about ten or whatever at the hospital i'm in a wheelchair because

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you know i'm still kind of a little loopy from the anesthesia and she says do you have you

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forgotten anything because i had the address and i said well i think i forgot or i've left my appendix

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back there and i said go get my appendix i was joking that's gone for good oh we cut up a lot i

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mean as an ER uh you know i'll tell you when you're dealing with major emergency trauma like i did

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you got to develop a sense of humor or you're gonna eat your gun you know i mean

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this stuff when you deal with this level you gotta have a sense of humor i mean yeah so and you

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gotta have fun yeah and you gotta have i mean my assistant here raven and is an angel 27 years

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with me my wife and i 46 years together i have dear friends that i've been with since for 50 years

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so you know you you have to develop a support team yeah and network of people who you know and

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you have to learn to have fun yeah i'm a party animal if you ever to go out party with i'm wild man

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that's funny i i feel like i've become more uh oh i'll be out three or four in the morning

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having a great time i've become more lame since all my you know whatever partying i used to do

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has gone into the craziness of the topic the topic is so crazy that i might get a balance man

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you have to balance it fair enough fair enough balance my body spirit you have to balance that's true

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yeah always yeah everything moderation including moderation my everything in moderation oh no i've

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never done drugs or anything but you know i was telling someone someone once bought me a third

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tequila shot oh my god wasn't tequila i got so wild it was on Halloween i'd never had a tequila

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shot i never drink liquor that liquor but it was like oh oh you know i was like wild man turned loose

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you know well maybe at some point we'll be partying with the ET yeah man allow they have actually

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they have a great sense of humor uh they can be very playful and and trial like uh and uh very

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into high cues if we had a scale for 50 yeah that range do you think they're hybrids among us

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oh well look i think all of life in the universe is hybrid but we're getting to something here

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that's very complex okay um but if you understand rooper shoulder breaks more phagetic fields oh

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yeah he's a friend of mine i love him yeah brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant guy yeah

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so anything that starts to happen through non-locality and in conscious field can begin to replicate

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so look at the entire creation that way yeah so i look at this from a very you know conscious

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quantum holographic point of view which integrates it's integrative now there's a place for

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reductionism where you break everything in the parts i mean medicine science you have to do that

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but there's a place also bring in this more holistic and the whole that the totality of it

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that has to do with the conscious holography of the cosmos and that's what's fascinating i think

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the civilizations that have survived this sort of crazy time we're in and have made it through the

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nuclear threshold and the trans-dimensional threshold and become peaceful one of the reasons

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why i don't think they're hostile is that if you have that consciousness that humans have

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you're gonna destroy yourself before you get out of your solar system look at us

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hit the great on the brink of war war three with russia and china you know if you don't evolve a certain

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level of peaceful consciousness so i always tell people we have a lot of problems but the root of it

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is very not religious the root of it is social spiritual conscious evolution because if we don't

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evolve to a certain level of that consciousness a piece and and seeing the oneness of life here

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and out there there's no future for humanity because we're not using just muskets and you know

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bows and arrows or even whatever now we have weapons of mass destruction that can destroy the planet

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and in these covert programs they have technologies way beyond a hydrogen bomb that are supercharged

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quantum potential scalar type weapons so you really can't go forward as a people

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uh... and i think that other civilizations have passed this way before and if they survived

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that threshold or maybe they crashed and came back out of it they've learned a very big lesson

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what i'd like to see is humanity come out of this era where we are now instead of crashing

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completely transforming into a new civilization a new awareness about this and i think it can

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happen but we need to articulate it and sort of show that vision that path forward

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and it isn't going to happen by just continuously stirring up hatred see one of the the alien

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hatred thing you know i think it is it's an exploitation of the original sin of humans and that's

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tribalism so if you look at chimpanzees were 98% identical they've organized in the troops and

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engaged in war we have that proclivity that's where racism homophobia misogyny ethnicity

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all the everything we fight over it's it's it's demagogues being able to trigger that impulse

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now the big one the trigger would be human versus nonhuman right you pull the whole world

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together as demagogues and people weren't in power against another intelligent life form

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so reagan was referring to in his speech yes because he had been ghastlet i knew the people who did it

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wow general homin uh no i'm sorry kernel homin where he died he was the one who sold

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uh sdi star wars to reagan wow and he told me before he died he said it was a full bird kernel

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he had been on that committee selling star wars to first tried to sell the card or in card or

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it was too smart didn't buy it then he told reagan so he said we had so union these other threats

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thada da da da where he really got him is that he convinced him of the alien threat now he told me

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he said we knew that was false but it got billions of dollars for sdi so here's the other risk with

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uh president trump is that he could be shown a lot of false evidence for example you going with

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a portfolio of gruesome vivis sections and mutilations and abduction abductions and other scary

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things all done by slyops from cia and other cutouts but aren't some of these pre our ability to

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even like my buddy chris ramsey runs a great channel called area 52 he's an admirer of your work

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and consumed it for a while but he always points to these he said there's like a 1904 there's

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like this chalayan cattle mutilation series and it's like we didn't have the ability to do this back

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then did we in 1904 you know there's I don't know what the ever and what my lab you know who knows

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what that was back then and what technologies were used if you have those capabilities

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what are you using it for I mean obviously if they wanted to overtake the earth and humanity it

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could have done it before we had the technologies we had by time we detonated the first atomic bomb

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yep okay so there's no internal logic to that thesis is what I'm saying yeah now there's a lot

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of reason to believe maybe there have been other civilizations that have done things where they're

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monitoring our evolution because they know in the future we could be friend or foe or we could

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go one way or another and so some of this I like into imagine if you're well here's a good

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analogy imagine you're me as an emergency doctor yeah someone comes in either the two-year-old

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child with the symptoms of meningitis right which can be fatal all right so I have to do a spinal

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tap and I have a needle this long you know so to the child I'm a monster who's having my nurses

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hold the child down in the fetal position they go in and get the cerebral spinal fluid off from

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around the spine to test it to see if there's bacterial or infection but to the child I'm

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torturing that child I'm trying to save its life I'm I'm there with the best of intentions

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doing everything I can to be sure this child doesn't die of meningitis or have brain damage

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and hearing loss so I think we have to also be careful in taking just a empirical observation let's

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say in an ephemeral superficial way and ascribing modem to it right because think of how many things

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I've had to do as a doctor doesn't that flip the other way to the like how can we know they're

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positive on the you know what I mean because as I said the the kernel in charge of the right

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patterns in air force based operations for this uh kernel canola when he said to me that he said

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oh I that was I went from the Rockefeller wrench to there wow he was headed the foreign technology

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at TD well at that time it was called fastic the foreign airspace science and technology center

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they keep changing the name of it it's still to him directly oh yeah that meeting was ordered

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by the head of intelligence joint staff not Kramer but another one current uh not not uh

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Tom Wilson but Admiral Kramer ordered them you met with all these fascinating people I don't

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know like you know I'm a fan of Joe Rogan but I don't see how anybody can just write you off

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like you you really like no I mean it's that was a money thing with the president I mean look I

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don't know I mean you ask Joe he's a neighbor yours you know fine I'm happy to go on a show anytime

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I have no grudge against him I just know that I'm blacklisted off of it that's too that's weird

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well who cares I mean you know I mean I can reach a lot of people other ways but

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so what was your conversation like with the well I you know he thought I was coming there

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to see what he had so I said I had my military advisor there and a guy who was a former state

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department actually CIA guy there and this meeting had been ordered from way above his pay grade

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now the head of Air Force Intelligence didn't want to do it but the head of intelligence

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the whole joint staff ordered it I can talk about this now so it happened and um the conversation

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kind of went like this he went well you know um I really I said look I'm not here to see what you

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have here I already know what you have here I have people who worked in your facility now this

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is September 93 so I said yeah I don't need to see that I know what you have I'm here to let

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you know that we have an operation CE5 contact close to counters of it and we want to de-conflict what

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we're doing with anything you and your colleagues are doing so that you don't interfere with us and

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we don't interfere with you a lot of people don't know this that was 93 early early on

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so you kind of came to them in peace you weren't like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but I also said

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the Clinton administration is keen he just taken office in January this September

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and getting and this may come here so you need to be prepared to cooperate yep and then he said

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it won't but well what makes you think that these civilizations are in a threat you know the whole

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party line I mean he was a colonel he'd brainwash like everybody else and I go well we're having

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this conversation aren't we we're breathing the free air of earth and the fact that we're still

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breathing the fear the free air of earth given the galactically stupid things we've been doing

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targeting and downing their own craft and killing their own people if they were hostile like you

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think we'd be done right he just looked at me so I said the proof that they're not is that you and

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I are still breathing earth's air what if they're impervious what if it's like these biological drones

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where they're like you know this is this is sort of like disposable stuff well some of them are

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like the little von Neumann replicators to like you know some are some are organic indigenous

[3:25:40 - 3:25:45] ▶

ET some are kind of robotic they have integrated circuits in their cerebral cortex but we have man

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made grays and man made-looking ones that have that because we've studied them do you believe in

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different alien races the grades the robotics the reptilians things like that or well now all

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those names are just racist appellations I mean remember I was telling you before so it's all one

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the foundation of all of ufology is less they call it interspecies racism that's the found

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everything that you're malting they've just been able to trigger the innate racism within

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everybody everyone's we're all monkeys we all have this sort of monkey mind but they're ones that

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look different there are dozens and dozens of them okay I know that Clifford Stone said in the

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six and they're all good all of the there's no indication of them are hostile okay there's

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indications that some of them are extremely unhappy okay with what we're doing to the planet and

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what we're doing to them hmm so but there is a universal right to self-defense yeah number one

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number two unless a year species been monitoring this planet for thousands or hundreds of thousands

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of years and a hundred year period we go from horse and buggy to thermonuclear weapons we go

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from a pristine environment that was an agricultural civilizations to a an industrial civilization

[3:27:09 - 3:27:17] ▶

that suppresses the natural evolutionary breakthrough and electromagnetism to have free energy

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and we're destroying the biosphere we're killing the oceans we have thousands of species of plants

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and animals going extinct and so if the earth had been somehow biophormed or assisted in its evolution

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they would be less than amused not with humans per se but with the captains of human civilization

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so they would be right in saying that we're mad you know it's like as an emergency doctor you can

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commit someone if there are danger to themselves or other mentally ill or substance abuser I believe

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that these some of these civilizations for you as that's collectively insane that humans given what

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we're doing to the planet and to each other and now to them are sort of mad like what's the

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heck's going on so I encourage people to step out of the anthropocentric you know self-centered

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view and begin to look at the world and what we're doing through the eyes of a non-human intelligent

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species who would rightly be appalled at what we've been doing to the earth and to each other

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endless world wars the earth's biosphere the oceans dying the coral reefs dying

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unnecessarily because we've suppressed the genius breakthroughs of Nikola Tesla and others

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in energy generation so that a handful of uber oligarchs and control freaks can benefit from that

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system right in the whole planet only point eight three percent of the population has any

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involvement with energy energy generation at any level green or otherwise and for that

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the we're sending the planet over cliff have we made agreements with the aliens like there's

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this rumor in 1954 that Eisenhower was I think in like Palm Desert in California or whatever

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it was at Palm Springs I think it was 56 56 I might about 54 maybe it was a mural around yeah

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and he says you know as it was under the cover of a dental exam but he might have actually made

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an agreement with some alien background it was an agreement it was a meeting it was a meeting

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and the what the ET's wanted us to stop the nuclear holocaust potential and we were to then do so

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do you believe this do you think this happened well I got I got a series of reports from the

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French minister of defense indicating that meeting did happen but it wasn't the mythology you're

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referring to and it was really an attempt by the ET's before we went full on dangerous

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proliferation of tens of thousands of thermonuclear weapons to try to change that direction

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and Eisenhower was inclined to do so this cabal of war-mongering sociopaths like Alan Dulles

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and Paul Mellon said no we're not and they're the ones who then cut the president out of the loop

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this is why one of our whistleblowers was a young army guy at the White House in the Eisenhower

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in the signal corps I think 5960 named Stephen Lovekent you can read his testimony in our material

[3:30:33 - 3:30:39] ▶

and he said that Eisenhower would doodle pictures of these you know ET craft and he was

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fascinated and he brought the issue up to Eisenhower and said Eisenhower said well I don't have

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control of this anymore so I think that because Eisenhower he knew the dangers of endless war he had

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been a five-star general World War II and he wanted peace yeah I think he wanted to go to an age

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and I think about the time I was born in 55 I think this happened and could have been 54 or 56

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but around that time this could have all gone another way you see so what a waste and so instead

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he got pushed aside that group of sociopaths and control freaks then took over those operations

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and those have been illegal operations ever since and so the president I think Eisenhower what

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I understand died a very bitter man about this he never spoke of this in particular but he also

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knew that there was an organization that had moved him to the side Jack Kennedy said the same thing

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to Bill Holden his this Duke chief steward on Air Force one I have many data points for this

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and so you know my concern is you know how long can that continue with an unchecked group with

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that kind of power I don't think I can go on much longer because their technological prowess

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has reached a point that it's not only a threat to earth to thread out there and so I think we

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have to resolve it my recommendation is to resolve it peacefully well let's see what happens

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Dr. Greer I mean we have we're kind of on the verge of like this deep politics civil war right now

[3:32:19 - 3:32:25] ▶

it feels like with us aid and Elon and Trump on one side and kind of bureaucracy on the other side

[3:32:25 - 3:32:31] ▶

they're really clashing and so it's an interesting time and I hope that all the political capital

[3:32:31 - 3:32:37] ▶

spent on all the other disclosures do not cut against UFOs and in fact they cascade into UFOs so

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here's what I take there yeah I think all of that's a side show and I'll waste the time

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here's what I think you know they're it's fiddling while room burns so all those other things

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I'm not saying they're all there's all manner corruption and waste and fraud but the big one

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is this stuff UFOs it's the well this is this is where eight to 12 trillion minimum is gone yeah

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and it's still going yeah and so the question is you want to get serious about this same thing with

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the criminal criminal criminalizing illegally using the criminal justice system against people

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you know and also letting people get away literally with murder and abductions and kidnapping

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one of our whistleblowers whose whose case is in here who we don't name he's by a initial

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he was on a crash retrieval team in the northern Nevada desert and way north used to be called

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the Nevada test range and about I think it was 2009 somewhere around there he was on a team

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retrieving these objects and it's a very long story but cut along story short

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when he reached out to us I was going to bring him to Senate Intelligence and Armed Services

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and then over to Arrow and we were getting in the process of actually getting his ticket yeah

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so those are you kovac about the fact you have to pay money for this book like you do a lot

[3:34:13 - 3:34:17] ▶

to hit Starbucks I don't I'm retired and I don't I don't get money from all this it's paying for

[3:34:17 - 3:34:25] ▶

whistleblowers to go to DC and provide security and all that so you know all these the naysayers

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and say why is there a tuition I said well how do you put on something if it cost $200,000 to run

[3:34:31 - 3:34:37] ▶

a facility to put on an event who's paying for that me out of my I'm a doctor not a tech billionaire

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anyway you know but so we're getting this ticket we're bringing them to DC

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a van pulls up s u the out in front of his house his wife's at work and they have two young kids

[3:34:50 - 3:34:58] ▶

boys and they they say look at your phone and your computer and they had embedded child pornography

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all over it that way yep happens all the time they said you take one more step towards this you're

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going to spend the rest of your life in prison and never see your children so I have said this to

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people in law enforcement I said why should someone who's a hero of the country be afraid for his

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life and afraid of false imprisonment and entrapment where is our justice systems where's the

[3:35:23 - 3:35:30] ▶

Department of Justice about Miss Bondi where in cash but tell where is federal law enforcement

[3:35:30 - 3:35:37] ▶

when you have this kind of thuggery but I we've had this thuggery used against

[3:35:37 - 3:35:41] ▶

even folks like the senior investigators for Senate Intelligence Committee so at what point

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did someone grow a pair and stand up to the Goliath now granted it is a Goliath and they have

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enormous power and enormous technology and they're very corrupt and they're ruthless they will

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kill their own but I don't think that that is any excuse for putting your tell between your

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legs and running away like a coward maybe Elon's engaging in some sort of encirclement strategy where

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you go for the the less important stuff first and then you maybe I mean look I don't know I mean

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again I don't know mr. Mosk and I wish him well and what I do know is that there are very

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senior people around the president who are taking this seriously which is a good thing

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and there are some wonderful people in there like RFK juniors sons wife

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amoreless fox amoreless fox Kennedy is a friend of mine and she's gonna she's on the White House

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Intelligence Advisory Group now and I will also work closely with Tulsi Gabbart D&I.

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I've met Tulsi before and I think she's great and then I heard I've heard great things about

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amoreless fox oh she's one she's amoreless is wonderful she's very smart she understands everything

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we've been talking about and I think RFK juniors does too in my conversations there but not at a

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granular level and not at a you know but I think there are people in place who I think can help guide

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the administration to what the facts are and what the truth is but more importantly we need to get

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past this thing of just endlessly yacking and investigating the issue yeah we need to action no I'm

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with that yeah we have to we at some point the federal government of the United States and others

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are gonna need to take action to get those operations under control stand down the malignant ones

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that are targeting ET craft and victimizing other humans with abductions mutilation threats

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and then we also need to have somebody with enough vision to say wow well if we're not alone in

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the universe maybe we should reach out I mean mr. Trump reached out to Putin and Zelensky maybe

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we need to learn to reach out to out there so let's reach out to these civilizations and began a

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Rothprost Mall in a dialogue that's the whole concept of the reason I started this whole project

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was for that reason on that and I got diverted into these other things but that's the real purpose

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is let's go forward in a in a world where we're at peace yeah and we're in peace and space we've

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transformed our whole civilization into a new high-tech society and poverty vanishes within a

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generation I mean let's let's see you well my children will and and let's have a new world

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that's a beautiful note to end on let's move forth into a utopia not hit the great filter let out all

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this suppressed technology and commune with the extra thresholds thank you so much good to

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you yeah thank you appreciate it this is an honor thank you

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you

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