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you were mentioning uh earlier when we talked about corso on the day after roswell you said
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there was some writer that was a hollywood writer that like made up a bunch oh yeah bill burns
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because the reason i'm curious about that is there was um a bunch of stuff in that book about like
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velcro and kevlar and all these like human technologies that were found in that crash
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do you think that was added by this hollywood guy do you think that was real some of them were added
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some of them weren't but the distinguishing difference corso makes in his work is like
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integrated circuitry and transistors and stuff he makes the claim that a lot of these stuff
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weren't copied like the technology wasn't basically seeded from craft but we as humans had our own
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evolution of these technologies and an understanding of a different variation of something like the
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transistor integrated circuit allowed for further advancements of our technology because i know
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jesse talked about it with you or i can't remember where jesse talked about it but he was skeptical
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that stuff like transistors were taken from the roswell craft when transistors and various concepts
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for transistors had existed previously and i tend to agree with that i think if anything that technology
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was likely used to bolster existing technology and not just copied so you think that that thing was a
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reproduction vehicle no no no so like i i think that humans let's say let's take the transistor for
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example if a transistor was pulled from the roswell craft yeah i think that humans were already working
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on concepts similar to transistors technology similar to transistors and pulling like a more advanced
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transistor type piece of technology off the roswell crash may have allowed us to make quicker
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advancements in our current human prosaic technology because we can analyze non-human technology not
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inventing technology out of the ether because we just pull it from a non-human source right so more
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so just like um copy and not copying somebody else's homework but taking influence from other
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technology on existing technologies right there's still a lot of questions with corso right like we
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can't there's a lot of rebuttals for most of that technology created i mean even passive night vision
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systems colonel john alexander who i have my problems with yeah night vision was another it was another
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technology yeah crash well corso's corso said that there was an eye film on the beans and that's where
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passive night vision systems were were pulled from that's a that's a very big big claim but what's
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interesting to me about this is in in the in the manuscript it was just made for his grandchildren
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right it wasn't made for public consumption it was made for his family so it's not like he's trying
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to sell this story to a huge world because there's massive differences in the manuscript versus the book
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the book talks the first chapter about corso sitting like isaac newton under a tree like thinking
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about the roswell crash basically placing himself there no the manuscript is super dry it repeats
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itself dozens if not hundreds of times but it just is is basically corso's words actually from corso
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and not with added fluff like in the book in the book there's one like senior intelligence or dod official
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that corso basically convinces to you know perform a self-inflicted gunshot wound with
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like corso acts so tough to do that that's not in the manuscript that's fluff nonsense to make something
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sell to hollywood so there's a lot of added information that i i really understand why
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people take corso so skeptically if all they've read is the day after roswell right right what what
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is your take on john alexander uh john alexander i don't know he what i what i think the most
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interesting example of where john alexander was president present was 1985 at the advanced theoretical
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physics working group that was held at bdm's facility in mclean virginia right so this was an
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event that okie shannon if you've heard of okie shannon he was director of like special projects
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at los alamos national labs and he is mentioned multiple times in the wilson davis interview in
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1985 he went to attend this event at bdm mclean uh this event was classified using doe controls
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right which is really interesting a lot of it was ran by john alexander and at that time new bdm board member
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albert stubblebine who had just left u.s army inscom for bdm in 1984 at this conference there
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was so much talk about ufo reverse engineering programs you know conducted through speeches
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and organization by alexander including a massive mention of a i think it says like huge engineering
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project under bobby ray inman and of course that's somebody we talked about right no bobby ray
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inman is the neuro guy he's the cia guy he's the nsa guy he's the saic guy he's the wackenhut guy
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oh wow what he's he's one of the main villains of this of this entire story i'd say something
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i forgot to tell you about is in 1989 he talked to nasa mission specialist bob eschler bob eschler
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called him uh somehow they worked they got in a relationship and we're talking to each other and
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bob eschler basically asked if recovered ufos would ever become available for technological research
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and what's interesting is this phone call is recorded so you can actually listen to it
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and bobby ray inman does the whole i know nothing about that but directs eschler to current cia dsnt
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director of science and technology deputy director everett heineman says if you want to know about it go
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talk to heineman so eschler talks about heineman heineman freaks out says no don't talk to me
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nothing there heineman was also director of the nro program b and was actually the first one of the
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first heads of pine gap when it opened up in the 70s in 2023 a ufo researcher rgh ufos met emailed
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heineman and i wish he would get back to me but he's never responded to me and heineman alluded
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that he did in fact work in ufo programs he said i'm no longer in that area of research but back to
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inman inman also appointed bob eschler nasa mission specialist to former director of naval intelligence
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sumner shapiro sumner shapiro was also a bdm board member but sumner shapiro met with bob eschler
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and sumner shapiro told bob eschler that not only had he studied craft up close but they were shipped
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between different doe laboratories and some of them featured interlocking components that had to be
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assembled and disassembled in certain ways if you're going to gain access to the craft so bobby ray
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inman you know points bob eschler to all sorts of these guys bobby ray inman is former director of
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neuro cia all this but then in 2020 and this echoes the present very well bobby ray inman appeared on
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project unity jay anderson's podcast and said he had found uh explanations conventional explanations
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for every single ufo sighting which is nonsense to to take that stance that every single ufo sighting
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you've ever cracked sounds like sean kirkpatrick so this guy in 1989 is pointing bob eschler to
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firsthand ufo retrieval knowledge people and then he is walking those statements back and bobby ray
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inman has a very illustrious history he was also on the board for wack and hut which is a private
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security agency mentioned by so many whistleblowers and including performing security at area 51 s4
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yeah i learned all about wack and hut when i had the dudes in here that made the danny casolero
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documentary really have you seen that documentary holy shit bro you've got to watch that it is
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they talk all about like it's it's called the octopus murder you know what i can't believe i
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haven't watched the octopus murders yet so many people have told me to watch it amazing
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it they talk it basically explains how like all of these things are connected with wack and hut the cia
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and all of these different scandals that have ever happened from like watergate to like iran contra and
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all this stuff it's all a part of this big fucking crazy deep state blob octopus uh and all these
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tentacles are attached to one another and danny casolero got to the bottom of this thing
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and uh he was found uh he was found with his wrists slashed in a bathtub in a hotel room
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yeah and uh it's it's an amazing documentary and they they go deep into it the wack and hut stuff
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what you know wack and hut wack and hut even has ties and in the subject we're talking about now with the
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department of energy uh i mentioned the department of energy special response teams that are like
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really highly armed guys at doe national labs that you know maybe they transport nuclear materials
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maybe they transport radiological materials maybe sometimes they transport ufos but these guys were
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trained by wack and hut so they get wack and that training uh wack and hut worked closely alongside
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indusec or industrial security personnel which i think industrial security personnel are the actual
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armed guards and so forth that will be inside of a ufo facility guarding the usap program locations and so
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forth so i think wack and hut is intimately entwined and bobby ray inman he was a board member of wack and hut
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