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Virgil Armstrong was an intelligence officer with the CIA and worked with highly classified assignments.
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He retired with the rank of major.
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I received documents, was said that a UFO had landed in the middle of white science,
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due to Mexico proving grounds. And this object was inert, was under surveillance,
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and would be kept under surveillance until they could determine whether it was hostile or friendly.
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And they turned out that it was friendly in that the occupants were dead.
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And when we got aboard, there were five bodies.
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The bodies were diminutive in size, in other words, 3.5 feet.
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The largest one was just under four feet.
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Two of them were obviously the commanding officers, because two of them were emplits on their
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shoulders. Later turns out that they were all male. We flew them back to right Patterson,
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the course, the examination, physical examination, and the autopsy, of course, revealed that they
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were indeed all male. I think what has happened over the years, the government has lied so much
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that they have painted themselves into a corner, and it's almost impossible for them to tell the truth
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today. Virgil, you're in a little different realm than most. You've been involved with military
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intelligence over the years. What got you first involved with the UFO's phenomena?
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Well, my first exposure to it was in 1948 with the second capture of a UFO in the United States
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of Wife Sands proving grounds in New Mexico. This is a capture as opposed to a crash.
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Well, actually what it was was a soft landing, of course, and then subsequently it was a captured.
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I would say it was a presentation. We had had several disastrous crashes the year before
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in the Roswell, New Mexico area, and they had impacted and scattered bodies and pieces of the
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craft all over the landscape. We did give one body out of that, but we didn't have much to go on,
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and I feel that that crash or presentation, it's called it what you will, in Wife Sands, New Mexico,
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was to write the air that they made in the first three or four introductions. That craft came
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down silently, had five occupants, made a turn out they were all dead. It was a soft landing,
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and of course it was in the middle of the most sensitive proving grounds in the world, then and
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probably even now. I think it was a way of saying to us, there was a greater intelligence watching
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all that we were doing, particularly in terms of our atomic and nuclear advancement and weaponry.
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That was my first introduction to it, and of course from then on it became a subdued cabin
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interest. I really did nothing seriously about it, that was 48, and then I retired from the military
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in 1962, and some years later when I took it up as a full-time pursuit to research and to delve
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into it, particularly from a spiritual aspect, to see what more I can find out about it.
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What did you find out about it? What's the essence of what you found?
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Well, the essence after all these years of research is that they are us and we are them,
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and there's really no great mystery. As I said the other night, it's no longer UFO, it's an
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identified flying object. There are a few unanswered questions, although we have some pretty good
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surmising conclusions, for instance, we know today that many of the craft are those
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of the United States or now Russia or possibly South Africa.
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Now, being involved with military intelligence, why has this involvement occurred without the
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public's knowledge? Well, it started out in 1948. I asked the same question. At that time,
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of course, it was top secret. It should have been, I had to agree with it, but I asked my
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commanding officer at that time what the world did. Yes, exactly. Well, that's exactly what he said.
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I said, look, why isn't this being given to the public? I think they have a right to know.
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Well, first of all, I was told as a military officer to my own business by my superior,
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and I was not happy about that. He saw I wasn't. He said, well, he says, maybe you deserve an
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explanation. He said, the reason is we don't want another or some well-scare, you know, invasion from
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Mars. That's the same thing. Well, it had some validity in those days, and I accepted it with
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tongue in cheek, although I didn't agree with it, you know. Being a military officer, though,
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I had to, of course, conduct the boat. Yeah, right. And so I didn't. But that later became a
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Kess 22 right up to this present day, age, you know, been rocking the boat here. Oh, you bet.
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I, well, I started not so much now as I did say in 1980 on. As like I said, the other night,
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these people wouldn't be here today disclosing what they are now. If I have not done it in 1980,
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on Challenged the Government, I said, look, you characters. I said, you damn well have lied us
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about all of this. I said, we'll be mass flyovers, and the government will have to say, yes,
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buddy, they're here. And in their defense, the government's defense, I would have to say that
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they're attempting to do that. First of all, they attempted to do it through the movies,
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posting counters of a third kind, ET, the day the Earth stood still, and all these,
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these are paid advertisements, so to speak, to you and I to let us know that these things do exist
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and they are here. It's off in the blow. It's off in the blow, exactly. And now on TV, every time
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you turn on the TV, you got a program on crop circles or UFOs and some like, major stations are
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now carrying it more and more every day. So I think this is also a step in the right direction.
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But there has to be a credible explanation and release by the government in the very new future
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in order to satisfy the people. So we're all this mess up once we've heard of it. Exactly. It has
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to be done. You have been with the CIA, is that right? At one time. Yeah. How long? Nine years.
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Nine years. People say, once CIA, always CIA, so they believe you couldn't say what you say,
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if you were, or you have been with the CIA, how can you say these things about what the CIA
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doesn't want people to know? Well, of course, I don't tell a lot of things that I know, and I never
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will. I still keep a note of security up to a point. But when it came to UFOs, I said,
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somebody has to speak out, and it wasn't directed towards the CIA. It was directed towards the
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US government and world government. And that's when I, in 1980, broke security. You could be
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for that. What happened? Why did you quit? Or why did you, what happened at the CIA that you
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said that has to go on? I don't know. I was three times in Vietnam, and of course, I was
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associated also with them in Vietnam. And I just saw the few-tile futures of the whole thing,
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and I said, you know, I've had enough of this. I had already been in wars, beginning with the
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Second War War, the Korean War, Civil War in China, three revolutions, three times in Vietnam,
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and you know, on and on and on. War for life. It was enough, right? And so I wanted out.
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But you didn't see UFOs in Vietnam or something, or did you? Not a Vietnam, no. But I was in on the
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capture of the Second UFO in the United States in 1948. The most famous capture, though,
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of course, was Roswell. And that was a Roswell incident. And that was in 1947, the year before I was
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involved. And then the Second Crash is what they call the White Sands New Mexico Crash. And that
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was very highly classified. And still it is today. You were involved? Like you were? No, just on the
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the White Sands one, I was in on it. But I know a lot about it, of course, about the Roswell
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thing, what happened there, and so forth. You had fires from it or something? Yes, right. And
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of course, I was always in intelligence, and what they call G2 or CIA, or because of my intelligence
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background, beginning with the Second War War, I was stereotyped. And so consequently, all my
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assignments for the most part had to do with intelligence, which was my main thrust. But
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I didn't really get involved deeply involved in UFOs of a personal nature until I retired.
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And it was that time I began to investigate ETS and UFOs in great depth. I just came from the CIA,
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and I was assigned to the 82nd-Orderborn Division in Fort Brighton, North Carolina. And then I
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was placed on temporary duty with the intelligence of then the Army Air Corps, and which later very
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quickly became the Air Force, as we know it today. But it was during that time that I received what
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we call Fax today. It was a Twix, Himacross, my desk, and of course I was G2 Air. Now G2 Air
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has to do with all intelligence having to do with strange things in the air, you know.
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Phenomena. Phenomena, exactly. And what happened was the commanding general sent me a
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Twix that he had received from Thermal-Bethrower headquarters, stating that a UFO had crashed at
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White Sanstead, Mexico, and was presently under observation. And the observation was to determine
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whether they had friendly intents or they were hostile if there was any occupants aboard, you know,
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and whether they met in women or all male or whatever. So a lot of questions were being asked.
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And through a coordinate security around it, and I kept them under surveillance for over 24 hours.
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And nothing happened. And so then they began to probe the exterior of the craft trying to find
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an access into it. And as a luck would have it or phenomena or God or the ETs or whoever you
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know, they hit a button from the outside and the emergency button. Down came a door from inside
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of the craft itself with steps. And of course now we had entry to the ship itself.
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There were five bodies aboard, all of them dead. Yeah, they had
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expixiated. But it happened ostensibly. They had blown a portal. And so they suffocated,
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you know, due to lack of support systems. Well, that's they look like.
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Little guys, 3.5 feet. It's like a small Christ, people talk about.
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They weren't like the Zedra-Rochicular grays. No, their eyes were different. Zedra-Rochicular
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grays have almost insectoid eyes, you know. These little guys had nice eyes. They were kind of
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eyes. The five occupants, one of them was just under four feet and he obviously was a commander
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because he had Eplis on his uniform. And one of the smaller ones, the 3.5 feet also had Eplis. So
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he was obviously the assistant commander. The rest of them were dressed in very tight fitting
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silver uniforms. And so now, characteristically, in other words, a physiognomy, they had no hair,
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no hair anywhere on the body. Huge eyes and outsize head with the body. No ears because the
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ears had atrophied. The nose had atrophied. The mouth was immobile. And so it wasn't like our
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our mobile mouth, you know. So obviously they communicated with the empathy.
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So the bodies were taken off of the craft and they were flowing back to Wright Patterson for
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examination. Wright Patterson, Alpha, Spirits, and Ohio. And of course, they had very
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great difficulty getting uniforms off them. They couldn't cut it. They tried scissors.
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It was a material that we didn't know. Nothing like, you know, here on the global bus should say.
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But they couldn't cut it with scissors. And yet it was thinner than a newspaper page.
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It is. So finally they had to resort to metal shears to cut it. And they finally got uniforms
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off them. And then of course, they examined the bodies. They were all male. They had male organs,
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genitals, and genitals, and somewhat heavy. But again, like the ears and the nose, it had atrophied
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due to non-use. You know, they were no longer sexual and didn't need the ears to hear and all
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that. So they were different from us, but they were they were nice little guys really.
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Did they find out where they came from? They did, but I never learned. Never it never was reported,
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of course, in the Twix. But I do know they were good at that time. And my personal opinion about
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that whole thing was in the first attempt to tell us that they were here, which was a Roswell incident,
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that Roswell crash was caused by radar. And they couldn't read, for instance, their altimeter,
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because they impacted with the ground and scattered over about 10 acres, you know.
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Out of that, of course, the Roswell incident, we got one live body.
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And that was earlier than what it said. 1947. And 1948 is the crash that I was in on.
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Is it the same kind of it is like that? They were the same. So Roswell were not so crazy?
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No, they were not. So you said that were nice. You call them nice. I call them nice.
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They never learned in other words. And Roswell, they found one alive.
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