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When it comes to really, really stupid reporting by mainstream media publications,
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the well runs kind of deep. You've got the pangolin wet market theory around COVID's origins,
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the whole Saddam Hussein had WMDs thing, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story,
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calling ivermectin horse dewormer when hundreds of millions of people take it a year.
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I could go on for many days. But the Wall Street Journal just released an article called
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the Pentagon disinformation that fueled America's UFO mythology that truly takes the cake.
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I have to say, I agree with aspects of the headline.
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The Pentagon is running a UFO disinformation campaign.
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I think this article is part of that disinformation campaign.
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One of the article's primary sources is Susan Goff, whose own LinkedIn,
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along with independent sources, confirms her lead role in Booz Allen Hamilton's
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psychological operations consulting practice for the Department of Defense.
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Her self-professed skills include strategic communication and psychological operations.
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In summary, this article says that UFOs are entirely explained by two things.
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Electromagnetic pulses, or EMPs, that the American government secretly decided to use on our own nuclear missiles,
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and Air Force hazing rituals.
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All right, you little freshman bitches!
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Let's tackle the first one.
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Good afternoon, my name is Robert Salas.
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On March 24, 1967, Robert Salas, a first lieutenant stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base,
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said he received a call from topside guards saying that they had seen strange lights in the sky making odd maneuvers.
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The men are stationed in the missile launch bunker 60 feet below ground.
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He called back about five minutes later.
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This time he was screaming into the phone saying they're looking at an object, a red glowing object hovering just above our front gate.
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All ten missiles were off alert. All ten.
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Whole flight was off alert. All red.
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Salas even had a colleague present named Bob Jamison, who backed up his testimony on record with Larry King.
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Is it possible they just malfunctioned?
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That doesn't happen. Very rarely does a missile malfunction.
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Much more rare would be two at the same time, but never ten.
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In fact, the guy who most thoroughly documents the Malmstrom case in 1967
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is the author of the great book UFOs and Nukes.
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His name is Robert Hastings, and he is the authoritative chronicler
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of 167 Q-cleared nuclear base employees that have all witnessed UFOs.
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Declassified U.S. government documents and witness testimony from former or retired U.S. military personnel
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confirm beyond any doubt the reality of ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites.
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In many cases, these UFOs have tampered with various nuclear sites across the country.
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Strangely enough, Bob Hastings figured out the connection between UFOs and nuclear weapons
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because his father was stationed at Malmstrom nuclear base in 1967.
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In high school, Hastings worked as a janitor there,
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and a radar operator who took young Hastings under his wing
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called the 16-year-old over to show him that the base was actually tracking
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what they called unknowns at the time.
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That's the formal term for unidentified objects.
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I saw five blips in the sort of northeast quadrant of his radar scope.
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A local truck driver in Montana and police officer are also on record having seen the UFO in the area.
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In 1993, a missile technician named John Mills stationed at Malmstrom
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also saw UFOs on his way back to the base.
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When he returned, officers there said the base had been swarmed.
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There are tons of sightings in and around Malmstrom.
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On the UFO thing, I was working for the Forest Service,
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not too far from Malmstrom Air Force Base.
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One day I was up there in a Forest Service pickup truck at a certain campground,
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and I was there, and suddenly I look up, and I say suddenly, it was just in the skies.
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I became aware that it was up there, and I looked up.
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It was this huge, spheroidal, you know, but elliptical, not a perfect spheroid.
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Like a saucer that was turned partially on its side.
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These occur to this day.
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So anyways, this Wall Street Journal reporter named Joel Schechtman
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writes that this was all a secret EMP, or electromagnetic pulse experiment,
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seeing if the U.S. could shut down our own nukes with people present.
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As if that's not incredibly dangerous and reckless and has any precedent.
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I think that Schechtman, or one of his sources, is making this up.
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There's even documentation from Malmstrom Strategic Air Command itself
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saying that they were extremely puzzled around the event,
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and that they had no idea what was going on.
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They were so puzzled that they paid Boeing to come out and investigate what had happened.
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Boeing was also puzzled.
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So again, back to this idea that this was a super secret EMP that no one knew about.
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And it was an EMP tested on our own nuclear weapons with people present.
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Bob Salas responded to this claim.
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Again, this is the same security team that expressed extreme fear to Robert Salas
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due to the fact that a glowing red object was hovering around the base and making right-angle turns.
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For whatever reason, none of this testimony made it into this article.
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But perhaps most damningly, I mean the real nail in the coffin for this,
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is that EMPs weren't even a thing until the 70s.
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And no documents have ever suggested that the US has ever used them
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against our own active nuclear weapons with people in the vicinity.
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As my friend and journalist Merrick von Rennenkamp eloquently points out.
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The Wall Street Journal is suggesting that technicians somehow moved a 60-foot science experiment
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up to the front gate of an alert missile facility undetected.
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And then they fried the active nukes.
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This is a joke, right?
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And then you have the fact that EMPs don't usually do reversible damage.
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They take out all electronics in their vicinity.
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These missiles came back online.
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Maybe you could argue that EMPs can at times cause temporary downtime.
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But we definitely didn't have the ability to use EMPs this precisely before they were even operational.
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That's an insane claim that I don't even think the Wall Street Journal would pretend to defend.
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There are literally no logs or records anywhere from Malmstrom or any employees of that base
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saying these missiles didn't come back online.
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So they didn't just take out 10 missiles with an EMP and then turn them back on.
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That's extremely basic physics that Sean Kirkpatrick, a supposed physicist and the head of Arrow,
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the All Domain Anomalies Resolution Office,
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who clearly spoon-fed all of this bad information to Joel Schechtman,
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a man who needs to up his fact-checking game, should know.
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Get up, you lazy little bitches! Get up!
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Okay, and then you have this second claim that the article makes,
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that Air Force hazing rituals explain widespread UFO mythology.
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Can someone please, for the love of God, explain documents from the Air Force
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dating back to 1949 discussing an emergency meeting around UFOs and nukes
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taking place at killing base camps with the Army CIC, FBI, Office of Naval Intelligence, and CIA present?
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This FBI document discussing the same UFO and nuclear connection?
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Or, in 1947, General Nathan Twining, responsible for all aircraft development in the Air Force at the time,
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saying that UFOs are not visionary or fictitious?
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Tell me how debunking one nuclear UFO-related case in 1967 explains a town in Japan next to their nuclear civilian grid in Fukushima,
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where the residents have frequent sightings and are obsessed with UFOs,
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or at Bariloche, Argentina, next to their civilian grid,
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where a commercial pilot in 1995 literally couldn't land the plane due to an outage and a UFO chasing his plane?
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What about Bob Jacobs sighting in 1964 at Vandenberg,
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where he was removed as a government employee despite having managed over 130 people?
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They denied that he ever worked there,
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until later his superior, Major Mansman, admitted that he did work there a couple decades later.
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My officer efficiency reports are in there.
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By the way, I've seen Bob Jacobs' DD-214.
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He definitely worked at Vandenberg.
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So Jacobs and all these other nuclear base employees, Mario Woods,
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all of these people that I've interviewed,
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have been hazed for 70 years by our own government.
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They faked UFOs, harassed these people.
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In Jacobs' case, they blew up his mailbox and fucked with him endlessly.
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He gets a phone call one night, he and his wife,
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your mailbox alight, what a beautiful sight, you're going down, motherfucker.
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This is all sort of beautiful, though.
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The Wall Street Journal has really backed themselves into a corner.
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I suggest they either prove the existence of these hazing programs in a follow-up article,
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because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,
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or at the very least, they support what I'm about to propose.
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A class-action lawsuit under the Federal Tort Claims Act.
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Every UFO witness whose career has been significantly disrupted
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for their speaking out about this issue,
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or mental health has been disrupted by optical illusions in the sky,
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or whatever hazing rituals this article is proposing,
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should be granted millions of dollars for being hazed by our own government.
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David Grush, who experienced serious reprisals while in government,
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and was dragged through the mud at the National Geospatial Agency,
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should receive a large check in the mail.
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Surely we should have some church committee-style hearings
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about these egregious acts committed by our own government.
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And I'm certain Joel Schechtman and everybody else involved
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in the writing of this article would support that.
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I'm not so sure they would.
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See, perhaps this personal story is most telling and indicative
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of where the Wall Street Journal is really coming from.
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Last year, my friend Carl Nell,
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Army representative of the UAP task force,
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who helped spearhead many of the Army's most important tech modernization efforts,
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wrote an op-ed intended for the Wall Street Journal.
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The opinion piece was co-authored by a former cabinet member.
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Like presidential cabinet member.
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The essay expressed a deep frustration at the lack of transparency
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and civilian oversight with UFO-related programs in government.
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Again, a cabinet member co-authored this.
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And lest you think I'm making this up,
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I'm not the only person aware of this article besides Nell.
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Senate Intelligence Committee staffer Kirk McConnell,
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whose politics I don't always agree with,
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is also fully clued in about this opinion piece.
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And we also have emails between Carl Nell and the Wall Street Journal about it.
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It is a fact that this article was written and it was proposed for publication,
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but the op-ed section refused to publish this article for no apparent reason.
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Serendipitously, I had just met a very friendly vice president at News Corp,
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which owns the Wall Street Journal.
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So I offered to help advocate for the publication of this op-ed
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by getting an introduction to one of the managing editors of the Wall Street Journal's opinion section.
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This woman was named Lena Bell.
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She was very nice and earnest,
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and I have no reason to believe she cares about anything but the truth.
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We had a great exchange.
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I even met her in person at the Wall Street Journal headquarters.
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I told her about my own interest in the subject.
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I suggested that it would be great if more mainstream credentialed journalists were interested.
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I even said that she should read UFOs and Nukes by Robert Hastings
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if she wanted to learn more about the government's history with UFOs.
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We followed up, but it seemed like she was powerless in helping getting this opinion piece published.
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There was some undetectable dark matter at play, stopping this opinion piece from getting published.
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Just think about it.
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Even if you can't fully verify that there's a hidden UFO program,
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obviously that's a tall order,
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shouldn't a former cabinet member saying anything about unidentified flying objects
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immediately be worthy of publication?
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Even if you then run a story saying that that former cabinet member is crazy?
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When I politely expressed my confusion around this,
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I was told something very telling.
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Lena told me that a guy named David Spurgle is their de facto advisor on UFOs,
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and he says that UFOs are all space trash, light reflections, and temperature inversions.
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This is almost exactly what past UFO debunkers like Don Menzel would say in the 50s.
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First of all, the objects are not unidentified.
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We know what they are.
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Menzel happened to hold extremely high clearances at the NSA, CIA, and Navy.
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He was also caught destroying astronomical records by fellow astronomer Dorit Hofleit,
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as she documents in her biography.
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In 1953, Don Menzel also stopped the astronomers at Harvard
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to carry out their very famous sky survey where they were monitoring the entire sky.
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He also had apparently some more later episodes of plate destruction, I've heard.
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But I digress. Who is this David Spurgle?
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The head of the Simons Foundation, a guy named Dr. David Spurgle,
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he was tapped to be the chair of the NASA UAP Working Group.
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A working group that sort of says, you know, nothing to see here.
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Like, we'll keep an open mind, but there's probably nothing here, which I find interesting.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
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I have no smoking gun.
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It just seems quite a curious set of coincidences.
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You look at what else Jim Simons was really engaged in, right?
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He set up the Simons Foundation,
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which is probably, like, one of the leading private sector sources of philanthropic funding
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for fundamental science research.
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And his, you know, guy running his private research foundation in fundamental physics
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gets tapped to run the UAP Working Group for NASA.
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Weinstein is on Rogan actively speculating
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that this is housing a sort of secret physics program involving all the top
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differential geometers in the U.S.
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What do you think, Matthew?
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I mean, if such a thing were to exist, that's exactly where it would exist.
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Maybe Spurgle has nothing to do with UFOs.
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Maybe the Wall Street Journal genuinely believes the bullshit about EMPs they're promoting.
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But it's just so weird to me that they've been working on a UFO-related story for months
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and neglected to mention that a cabinet member was involved
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in a UFO-related op-ed proposal that they received last year.
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So bad faith acting, incompetence, I'll let you decide.
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I'll just end on this note.
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If UFOs are all just some fake, multi-decade-long hazing ritual,
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then nobody should have any issue with the impending UAP Disclosure Act.
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Who cares if we have civilian oversight over programs that don't exist?
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And hopefully when the UAP Disclosure Act goes up for vote again,
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Sean Kirkpatrick won't lobby against it like he did last time.
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So on that note, I'm linking a petition below that you will hopefully all sign
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in support of the UAP Disclosure Act.
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This will ensure civilian congressional oversight over UFOs
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and elect an elite presidential board to help push disclosure.
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This Wall Street Journal article is truly so bad
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that I am almost inclined to believe it is a pro-UFO conspiracy.
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So please, Wall Street Journal, do better next time.
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We need better debunkers.
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I'm not anti-debunking.
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There's plenty of bullshit in UFO World, a lot of which I cover.
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I'm just anti-bad, lazy debunking.
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And if Joel Schechtman or Sean Kirkpatrick or Susan Goff or any of these people
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want to come on my show or debate me in any context and discuss any of this in a civil way,
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I'd be happy to host them.
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Surely it would help promote this article.
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And if the article's contents are true, they can back all this stuff up.
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I suspect I won't hear back about that invitation.
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And that's probably the most frustrating thing about these people.
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They only hit you with these cheap shots from afar.
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They never actually show up and meet you face to face.
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So again, open invite.
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I've also messaged Lena Bell expressing a desire to write an op-ed rebuttal in the Wall Street Journal.
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If she says yes, I'll let Robert Hastings, Carl Nell, David Grush, Merrick von Rennenkamp,
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Michael Schellenberger, and anyone else contribute and co-author this paper with me.
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Because surely the Wall Street Journal wants that in the name of having an open and honest
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Until next time, for hopefully a more aspirational and positive episode,
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I'm Jesse Michaels and this is American Alchemy.
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This sort of webpage that is worth mentioning.
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I always test on YouTube we have an зовут one and two and two
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so that's really true and so we can confirm that.
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And first I hope that you don't know one thing!
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Also very long, it's perfect.
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And what happens if we get to be privacy and privacy and privacy is appropriate for you?
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