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Well, outside of Louis Elzando, other people actually spoke at this second-grade meeting.
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One of which was Michael Schellenberger, who's an independent journalist, and he claims
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that in a former game, a secret 12-page document that went over a macular constellation, which
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is reverse engineering of UFOs.
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Can you explain this?
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Well, that was one compartmental code name, right?
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He had information on.
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He wasn't involved in those projects.
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I would say what you want to do is go from there to getting full investigatory powers
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to drill down on who was doing the river.
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We know where they are.
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And what kind of data ended up getting, you know, retrieved.
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So yes, I mean, that's fine.
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But again, it wasn't someone who was directly, like boots on the ground, science is handling
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the material, et cetera.
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So that's what we would want.
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And I think the other gentleman, Mr. Gold, just looked into it just casually.
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You had Michael Gold, a former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy and Partnership,
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and also a member of NASA's UAP Independent Study Team.
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So he testified as well.
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Yes, but he didn't know anything.
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And I met with him privately.
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And he admitted that they basically closed that task force because they didn't have people
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that were staffed to go out and gather all this information.
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So what good does that?
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Well, this is the other thing I said to Berchit.
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Why do you have Congressman Berchit?
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What do you want people here who admit they don't have anything?
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And I've told you that all these people who will go up there today who handled the materials.
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There's something not right with this picture.
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I'm calling them out right now.
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And I haven't done this yet.
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Is that get serious or go home, right?
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But somebody needs to get serious about this.
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Because I think all this is going to come out in the next year or two.
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And when it does, it's got to come out properly.
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One person very close to the intelligence community told me after the election, he said,
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if this comes out the way it's being directed now, it'll be a thousand times worse than
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It'll be a global catastrophe.
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So there's a thousand ways this goes wrong.
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There's one way that it can go out, come out correctly and not end up in panic and false
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wars and all kinds of problems.
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And it has to be very seriously looked at by some people with the acumen and expertise
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to know what's the strategic pathway out of this mess.
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And I think one of them is there are a lot of people in these covert programs really want
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They're like, they're a whole bunch of people like that.
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But there's not a path for them now yet that's safe.
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Well, the other person that was at this hearing was Tim Gauyde.
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Who was a retired rear admiral with the US Navy?
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Now is this someone who knew what they were talking about?
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My understanding is that he's also sort of an operative.
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And look, these guys have their slice of here's what you're supposed to do and say.
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And there too, I think it's much better if you pull in people who are more the boots
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on the ground guys, you know, rather than folks who have a questionable agenda.
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And that hasn't happened yet.
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I have not seen a single person except the people.
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The Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committee have met with some very excellent,
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serious people that we have brought in.
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And some other, some from other sources that they have privately provided information.
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And then at least a back and toe about a year ago, we would then take them over.
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They would take them over after I handed them off and would take them over to the Senate.
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They would then be taken over to the arrow office at the Pentagon.
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But of course, that ended up being a total storefront fraud that just covered up all their
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testimony, as you know.
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Or if you don't, we'll talk about that.
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