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It's crazy whenever I hear people like you speak about this topic because especially
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you, you've been doing this for a long time, you've been around the block and you make
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No, I don't make claims.
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I make statements based on facts and research on my scientists.
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But like you say some things that are mind blowing and it seems like you have a lot of
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access to a lot of crazy dark shit.
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And whenever you hear people say that in today's day and age, a lot of them are foolish.
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Yeah, well, a lot of it is there's a, we sort of think reach the breakout reflection
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There are a group of people from a few black sites, very highly classified operations with
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aerospace and JSOC, joint special operations command who have started coming forward that
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I've been working with for a couple years.
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And they're beginning to put their toe in the water and put some information out.
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And these are guys who've been on the crash retrieval teams.
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And they've been working with me clandestinely for about 18 months, I think, something like
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And that team is just starting to come out with a little bit of information.
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That they have an enormous amount more.
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And what they're trying to do is get the US government to finally set up the protective
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So a whole bunch of these high value targets, HVT whistleblowers can come forward.
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So we've been working to set that up through a series of briefings that I've been doing
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for about three years with Senate Intelligence Committee and Senate Armed Services.
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And taking some of the witnesses.
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Now remember, I have the briefed nearly 1,000 top secret guys.
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And in our archive, you can go to dpiarchive.com.
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There's 760 some named.
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Now only 115, you can see their testimony.
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But we have 115, you can go look at right now.
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The others are blackened out because they don't want to be known.
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So we're handing them over to a special access project to look into what they know, the
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documents they have, the materials they've seen, and try to put together the puzzle.
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So what I like in this too, I call it the disclosure mosaic.
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So imagine you have a big picture you're trying to create.
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And because of the highly compartmented nature of top secret special compartment information
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project, stilling with this, you get a piece here and a piece here and a piece here.
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So what I've tried to do over the past 35 years since 1990 when I started this effort
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is to put together the mechanism for people to come forward, give us information and testimony,
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whistleblower testimony, documents when they can get them out of a secure facility,
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and then put that whole assessment.
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So it's called an intelligence assessment.
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And what I discovered back between 1990 and 1995 is that the vast majority of information
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on the subject is actually very carefully curated disinformation.
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If I can be blunt, it's bullshit.
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And that's been done deliberately to gas light the public and Washington officials and
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It has also been done to create the specter of a threat from outer space.
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So what, you know, Werner von Braun, who invented the rocket Friedaul Fittler, told his
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assistant, right before he died, who's on our team, Carol Rosen.
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He said, look, what we're planning to do is to launch fake alien threat.
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So the world can be united around some sort of dystopian militaristic totalitarian state.
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And we're real close to that.
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I mean, a warm up for that was 9-11.
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A bigger warm up was COVID.
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The big one was this.
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And if it's not averted, it'll panic the planet into this stupidity.
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So, you know, and this sort of false flag operation has been run since for thousands of years
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by powerful people and military people to sort of get their way and rule through fear.
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And so what you're doing with this is that when you look at the whole body of everything
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I call the legacy U.F.
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There's good information out there.
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And then it's mixed in with nine parts of nonsense.
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And so what most people do, and this is why I, by 94, I was ready to give up on this.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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Most government officials go, I'm out because this is such a cacophony, such a mixture
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of fact and fiction and rumors upon rumors upon rumors.
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They don't have time for it.
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I'm an emergency trauma doctor.
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So I'm going, this is crazy stuff.
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But I've stuck with it to try to make my way through this vast amount of noise.
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That's what I was trying to express to you right before we started was that I've had so
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many folks on here talking about this topic from authors to firsthand experiencers, people
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that have been trying to be whistleblowers, to filmmakers who have talked to all these
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witnesses and whistleblowers and all these folks.
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And it's just like this crazy cauldron of disinformation, misinformation, different partitions
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of the government fighting against each other.
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And then you have just like the strategic deception that goes a lot, it's been going on
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And it's just like, I've literally just been out on the UFO topic for the last probably
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I've just been sick of it because so much of it is fucking bullshit.
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I've never seen that documentary.
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I'm sure you have Mirage Men about Richard Dodie and how the Paul Benowicz thing.
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That has been my basically, I've been looking at this whole topic through that lens for
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since I saw that about a year ago.
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And it's, it seems like as you were alluding to, it seems like that is the predominant.
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It seems like that is about 80% of the information that's coming out is like specific specifically
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There's like counterintelligence, disinformation to poison the well of information on this
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But let's let's unpack that.
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So if you look at in our archive, we have a top secret document that was I believe accidentally
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declassified from Canada in the 1970s.
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It's called the Wilbur Smith document.
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And it's a top secret document that is from 1950 describing the US based reverse engineering
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research projects on extraterrestrial vehicles that were retrieved in the 40s.
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And it's an authenticated document.
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And it says a few things.
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Number one, it says quote, flying saucers are real.
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That's what they used to be called before they made up the fake name UFO, UAP.
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I hate how everyone's called an NHI all of a sudden.
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That's, we'll get into this.
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It's the CIA psychological warfare division that has the linguistics department.
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So the director of the CIA in 1993.
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You brought the briefing for Trump in today, right here, right here.
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So look at this big stack of documents we got here.
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Can you see that Steve on the camera?
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Oh, well, I mean, it is what it is.
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So the big problem became once they realized what they had, right?
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And people were seeing these things.
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Because once we started dating atomic bombs and then the thermonuclear weapons, these
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civilizations from out there came in, you know, like it was like a homing signal.
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And here's why when you detonate an atomic weapon or a thermonuclear weapon, which is a hydrogen
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It's supposed to fusion.
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What you get is an electromagnetic pulse, but embedded in that is what's called a scalar
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signal that like Tesla talked about.
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And that is not a wave form, like a sine wave.
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It's a point that goes out in a straight line at multiples of the speed of light.
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Disrupts interstellar communications and transport.
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So there was, it was a bit like kick and a hornet's nest, right?
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Because not that they were hostile towards us, but they were concerned like what is going
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on in this little corner of the cosmos.
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So that was the whole modern era of these, although they've been seen for thousands of
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But once we got to the nuclear threshold, we crossed the Rubicon here.
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All right, a red line went over.
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And so this is why they're seeing all over the place, near nuclear installations, nuclear
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ships that are carrying, or big carriers that have nuclear weapons on them.
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I know many officers who had these craft around them checking that out, even nuclear power
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So there's a big danger with that nuclear system and how it pertains to not only the future
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of the earth, which they have an interest in these civilizations, the ET ones, but they
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also are concerned about what happens when a civilization or a level of social and
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spiritual development, which ain't great, has these kind of technologies and start going
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So it coincided shortly within 10, 15 years of detonating the first atomic bomb in 1945
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by 1957, the Soviets had put sputnik up.
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And so they knew that we were going to be outward looking going into space.
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How do you think these beings are invested in the future of the earth?
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If they're not from here, and they're from another, like if we found another earth, if
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we found another planet in habitable life and we were way more advanced than we, then
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Why would we want to protect them from themselves?
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Well, I think that what I have found is people evolve.
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I mean, let's just say whether you want to call it spiritual or socially, psychologically,
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you develop compassion, you develop empathy, you develop a longer range vision than the
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next quarterly report, right?
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In other words, you have a view.
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So you take on a long range view.
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And I think those civilizations, some of them may have come our way before and faced
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New York extinction level events.
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Or they've seen other civilizations come and go that have blown themselves up or become
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So I think there's a big, let's call it cosmic institutional memory out there.
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And there's nothing new under the suns.
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It's probably happened before.
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But I also think they see the goodness and humanity, the capacity for creativity or exploration
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for intelligence, even very high levels of spiritual consciousness.
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So it's not as if they view us all as so dimly.
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I think they see the promise, but they see right now this little window at time in the
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last 100 years or so, where we're on the one hand, technologically advanced enough to
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And I'll get to this in a moment potentially threaten other worlds with technologies that
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we've developed from reverse engineering extraterrestrial transport systems.
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But we're also not socially and spiritually evolved enough to not blow ourselves to smithereens.
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So that is exactly the sweet spot or let's call it the dangerous spot of where a civilization
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could go sideways very badly.
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We've been there since the mid 20th century.
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Do you think there's any chance that these things are or what do you make of the theory that
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these are future humans?
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Well, I think there have been some encounters that are our descendants from the future.
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So I think we have to be careful here.
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I think of this, let's say a species evolves for half a million years and becomes space
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Evolution doesn't stand still.
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And so they could evolve to something that would look like a non-human being, an extraterrestrial
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being, but have been descended, but 20,000 generations ago.
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And certainly that's possible.
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I think that that's probably what happened at Rendrelson Forest, Mettwarrows.
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You mean 20,000 generations of the future?
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From 500,000 years in the future.
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And from some of the military guys who were there where this object landed in the early
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80s in England, there's pretty good indication that there was some contact that happened.
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It was psionic telepathic that they were us from half a million years in the future.
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And it was a pyramid-shaped onyx looking black onyx looking object.
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Very well documented case.
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But the eventually administrative defense in the United Kingdom, I went over there and
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met with them back in 93.
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And shortly after that they did declassify some of their information on it.
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So my understand that might have been, but still in the sense they were extraterrestrial,
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that they weren't from this particular time space.
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So it gets into how you define that.
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But my understanding is, if one of our whistleblowers, who's passed away, Sergeant Stone, he was
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on a retrieval team, crash retrieval, dealing with this in the 60s.
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And by late 60s he said there were 69 specific non-human extraterrestrial species that they
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Yeah, and I'm sure it's way more than that now.
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And his information, before he passed away, we got his archive that's in our archive.
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And also, we got a very extensive interview with him.
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And so there are many people like that who come forward and have told similar accounts.
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Now, one of the problems is, if you're in a compartment operation like that, you're
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not going to be read into or briefed on something of very similar nature, that's in a different
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base or another compartment operation.
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It's very, very compartmentalized, that's what they call it.
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So what I've tried to do is to see where it syncs up.
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So let's say you have 10 people who've been on craft retrieval teams that I've debriefed.
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I'm just making them, I've probably more than that.
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Where were they, what did they see, what was their methodology, and how much of that is
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And when you get congruence from people who don't know who each other are, so I'm sort
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of my project, the disclosure of projects from the clearing house for hundreds of these
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guys, then you begin to be able to find out where the sweet,
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sweet spot of truth is and try to build out this picture.
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So that's what we've tried to do when it's been painstaking.
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When it comes to the 69 different variations of non-human life that this gentleman catalog,
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the idea of the future humanist thing is interesting to me when it comes to these
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beings, these short little gray alien beings with two legs and two arms.
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Because if you think about how rare are we are on homo sapiens on planet earth, there's
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like over 2 million catalog species of animals on planet earth, there's out of those 2 million,
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there's 20 hominids, out of the 20 hominids, only one of them figured out how to develop
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technology to get off the planet.
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So we are super rare on this planet alone.
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So now you want to extrapolate out into the universe and find all the other Goldilocks
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planets that are able to inhabit life.
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They have different oxygen levels, different gravity.
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They have most of them are water worlds, very different atmospheres.
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What are the chances they're also going to evolve?
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That something like us is going to evolve by pietal, upright walking, two arms, two legs
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in a head that says brains is directly on top of the head.
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It's very high and here's why.
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It's a high probability that that would happen.
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And if you look at the work of a reaper shell drake at Oxford and morphogenic field propagation,
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those are quantum entanglement.
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Let me explain to the audience what that means.
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Quantum entanglement is at that level of quantum physics where every point in space and time
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Now the ultimate quantum entangled field is mind or consciousness, which we can get into
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This gets into the deep end of the pond very quickly.
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But let's say something works in one area.
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And it becomes something that is within that morphogenic field at a quantum entangled
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It spontaneously begins to pop up elsewhere.
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And this is known as field propagation through quantum entanglement.
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So it would make total sense that that'd be the case.
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Now there's certainly be huge variety amongst that, say, within that template.
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And there may be other forms as well.
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But I think that form, what's called the form of a universal person ahead to arms to legs.
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It's probably pretty consistent.
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Now there may be others.
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But they may have evolved from like, we're 98% identical to chimps.
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So I'm going to take a look.
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I mean, some of us more than others.
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One of my best friends calls me a big A because I'm musseling and furry.
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But so we just go, OK, that's us.
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But there could be a species that evolved from the equivalent of a cetacean, or a dolphin,
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or a bird-like, or what have you.
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So I think there's a huge amount of variation in the cosmos.
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But it's not that surprising that there would be this morphogenic field propagation.
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Some people call it the 100th monkey effect, where they studied monkeys on an isolated island.
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And once the troop learned how to do a skill, spontaneously hundreds of miles away,
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the monkeys on another island started doing it.
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But it was like this.
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You're talking a tangled field.
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I understand what you're saying.
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You're talking more about consciousness.
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But I'm talking like hard biology.
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But you're acting like those are separate.
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So this how are they so how are they not separate?
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Like how like how like I'm saying, like how is it if physically on a planet, if the gravity
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is different, if the atmosphere is different, if there's no land, if it's all ocean.
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But that's external.
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So I'm talking about the internal.
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See here's the thing that's very interesting.
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We're different in every imaginable way, but we're the same in a very essential way,
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and that they're sentient and conscious.
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So let's talk about field consciousness.
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And what Irman's Frodenger, the father of modern particle wave theory in quantum physics
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The total number of minds in the universe is one.
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That is, it is a singularity.
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So I know it sounds very spocke-in, but this is a fact, actually.
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It's been proven by Dr. John at Princeton University who had the Princeton engineering anomalies research
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lab, who and I knew him before he passed away.
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And they did very accurate studies with a random number generators where you would just
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think to it, and it would change it from just equal distribution of zeros and ones to
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shifting to say ones, the digital.
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They were just quantum digital random number generators.
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Very well done studies.
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I've been replicated all over the world.
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So we always think of ourselves as sort of these islands that are completely separate because
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of 3D, right, our bodies, the environment.
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But what if there's a level of not only in physics, physically, what they call quantum
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tanglement and Einstein called the spooky effect, but also on a level of consciousness in
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mind, it explains a lot of phenomenon, a great deal of the phenomenon.
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So the one good thing before I went to medical school, you're in a lab, it's such an anachronism
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I was a, became a meditation teacher and studied Sanskrit and the Vedas and sort of learned
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really in depth about the science of consciousness and all of that.
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Yeah, it was a sort of finished college when I first went out on that, I said, what am I
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So I said, well, let's do this.
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That was a consequence of a contact experience I had.
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Then that was a consequence of having had a near-death experience when I was 17.
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So it sort of opened up that trajectory into consciousness and the study of that.
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And then where does that intercept with all this?
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Well, it's actually, it turns out to be essential.
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So you know, you have this team of people who've just defected from, I can't say which
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black sites I've been at those black sites.
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And they were using a type of psionic or psychic interface with technology to intercept
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and bring craft in and then hit them with electromagnetic pulse weapons.
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I've been at these sites.
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I know where they are.
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And I've met some of the operators.
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I mean, it sounds like science fiction, but it didn't.
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No, it sounds like stranger things in real life.
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Well, I mean, everything.
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I mean, the science fiction is all ripped out of the things that are real often.
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But this is the real end of it.
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But that's why the CIA had a remote viewing program.
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I know a lot of those original remote viewing guys.
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And so that whole area, where does that have to do with UFOs?
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So what does it do with the fact?
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And I wrote about this in a 1991 paper called the Comprehensive Assessment of the UFO
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ETI subject, extraterrestrial intelligence subject.
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And it describes two related things, phenomenon, that those civilizations have technology
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that assist their consciousness in these capabilities.
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But they also have the ability to have their consciousness augment the technology so
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they can think to that camera.
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It's like neural link without the wires at the speed of thought, ran at the speed of
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electromagnetic field propagation.
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And so civilizations that if they're from the Andromeda galaxy, right, and two and a half
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million light years from here, they're not using your cell phone.
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It's speed of light.
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It would take two and a half million years to say, hey, how you doing?
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And another two and a half million years for you to return the reply.
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So the speed of light ain't going to cut it.
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So when you go what I call superluminal, beyond the speed of light, you're going into trans
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dimensional, you're crossing dimensions.
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And within those finer dimensions, it becomes more and more preeminent that you're using
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conscious fields and thought.
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And it was really strange stuff, but it's true.
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And so if you don't understand that, you're never going to understand extraterrestrial
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How much faster is this conscious superluminal instant?
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So if you instant, it's instant.
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Now, not necessarily the transport systems, but if you're communicating, it's in real time.
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Because there too, let's say you're here and your home base is two and a half million
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It's because it's not going in a straight line.
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Forget about the speed of light.
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Think again about this interrelated quantum entangled cosmos.
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At the level of only thought and consciousness, but even very refined electromagnetic systems.
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So then you go, boom, it's in real time.
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And this is where they've done studies recently where they have teleported particles and they
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have what the spooky effect were the same particle, come in two places at once that Einstein
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So I don't know if I'm boring your audience at this point, but no, you're not boring them.
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But so at that point, you begin to realize that if you're a very advanced civilization
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and you want to become interstellar, you're not going to be using the junk that all of
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us think is so I'll get out from Silicon Valley.
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I mean, that's rubbish, right?
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How did you figure this out?
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The stuff, the superliminal consciousness communication?
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Well, you're all the truth.
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Well, it was a bit of a long story.
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Anyway, in 1973 in March, I got very sick and I died, had a neurodethyxperience.
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I was raised an atheist and we didn't believe in anything.
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But if it didn't fit in a test tube, it didn't exist nonsense.
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But I had this amazing, beautiful experience, actually.
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And I had personally this experience of my own, say, drop of my individuality, become
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the ocean, sort of this expanded consciousness state.
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It was boundless and it was very beautiful.
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And obviously, I didn't die, it goes here I am.
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But it was a very serious neurodethyxperience.
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And about six months later, no, a couple months later, I decided I'm going to learn meditation
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because I want to get back to that state without getting second dying.
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So I learned how to meditate and sort of studying that.
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And then I was up on a mountain in North Carolina, upside the little town of Boone, North Carolina.
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And I was hiked up there before sunset.
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And I wanted to see the sunset and meditate.
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And just before sunset, I saw a perfectly seamless disk that appeared.
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And I'd seen of almost an identical one when I was eight or nine in North Carolina.
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I grew up in the Charlotte area.
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And I went, oh, they're back.
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I didn't think anything more about it.
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I just thought, well, there it is.
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I just accepted this.
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Because I looked into this when I was a kid after I had my sighting.
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That's all that happened.
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It was there and it didn't move off.
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It just winked out, sort of like dematerialized or vanished.
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So I go and I meditate.
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I'm sitting there and it gets dark.
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And when I open my eyes, I have this whole Milky Way is up above.
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And I've had over 5,000 feet up there, crystal clear October 1973.
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And I had this beautiful thought that entered me.
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I said, the whole, what a beautiful universe God has made.
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And with that, I went into that same experience I had when I died.
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It was phenomenal, but I was in my body.
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So I looked over and there was a glow over the edge of the help mountain side.
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I think it was that craft.
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And there was a little, there was a person.
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Now, as an 18 year old kid, I thought it was a deer standing on its hind legs.
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Had beautiful eyes, maybe about four and a half, five feet tall.
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I came over and it touched my right shoulder.
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I just dematerialized for about four hours.
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Now I thought it was about 30 to 45 minutes, something like that,
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because time isn't the same in these dimensions.
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But so during that encounter, I started having this experience of where non-human
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and extraterrestrial in humans, where could we connect?
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And it was at this place of non-locality, it's called in physics and consciousness.
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So I started practicing this with these ET's.
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And this meditation?
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So we have an app called CE5 Contact.
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It's probably the most controversial thing I'm doing.
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Yeah, I've heard of it.
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If you look at the movie, Closing Conor's of the Fifth Con, you're going to go,
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I just sent your producer a picture of a ET that appeared in the movie.
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Oh, yeah, you sent the alien.
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Can we see the alien that he said?
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No, the aliens are from Guatemala.
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These are extraterrestrial biological entities.
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What's the difference?
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I'm just making a joke.
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I know we're in Florida.
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It's, you know, we've made jokes before.
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There's way dirtier than that.
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So this is where do you see this one?
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So this is in Arizona a couple years ago.
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And we were doing the CE5 Contact Protocols.
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Full screener, Steve?
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Yeah, you have to do full screen.
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Otherwise it's useless.
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He's learning how to use it.
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So it looks like a beak.
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And it's this round head.
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And you see the eye suck on the left.
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There's a light source that was not hours coming from his left.
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And sort of a feathery tunic.
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Now this is about three feet from me.
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And we had David Marconi, who wrote Enemy of the State with Will Smith, had a great Nikon
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camera setup on a tripod with a remote.
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And we had seen what looked like a red orb right between this older gentleman and a member
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And I said, take a picture here.
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And here's this person that we had heard walking around behind us without seeing it with
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But it captured this person.
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It's hard to make anything of it.
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I mean, the right eye socket.
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You can see it's a very big head with like a beak like nose and mouth.
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And there's a right hand there.
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I mean, this is at night with no illumination, by the way.
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We're out there in the middle of the wilderness and pitch black.
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So this, by the way, this we call this ET, the healer, because he has appeared at other
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And the man right beside him had lost his hearing since he was in middle or high school.
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And even with hearing aids, he could barely hear.
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And this, wait, what is that next?
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Is that a, oh, that's just like a light orb or something right there, Steve?
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Looks like a, I don't know.
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That's that older gentleman who was here.
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Oh, that's a person.
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You know, I checked.
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It looks like a face floating in the middle of the, no, no, no, he's sitting in our, we're
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in chairs in a circle.
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We could give you the whole context.
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But what's interesting is that he was healed of his hearing loss.
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By next morning, woke up.
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So it's, you know, I've been doing this since I was 18.
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And what I find interesting about retail, ufology, it's always, I was a doctor.
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And I was, and I was tortured.
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I'm going, yeah, that's a CIA.
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You mentioned the grays.
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I know who manufactures those.
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You know who manufactures the Brailleians.
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Well, the great, the great beings that like, with the streamer talks about.
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The fake ones, as they're called.
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So how do they get them to abduct people?
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Like there's all these stories that John Mack has talked about.
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I knew John very well.
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And then he talks to, I think hundreds of people that explained being abducted.
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And by the little grays and taken up into ships and had to sperm and eggs extracted from
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How do you explain them about the illusions of grandeur?
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Like they need our sperm and eggs.
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Have you heard the theory that there, well, the future human theory, like if there was
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a cataclysmic event in the future, like way in the future, they had to come back in
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time to get our DNA to repropagate humanity in the future that, that's a hypothesis.
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No, but I mean, there's a mixture of things.
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So here, remember this.
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October 1954, we mastered gravity control.
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Covert programs in the United States, Earth Space.
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But there was a couple people working on it.
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There was Lewis Witten.
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No, I'm talking about, if you take T-Towns and Browns work and T-Towns and Browns.
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And the B-Fill Brown effect, all that started in the 20s.
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And if you look at a film that we released a couple years ago called The Law Century,
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it kind of unpacks all this.
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And people should look at that.
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It explains all this in this trajectory of how this evolved.
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And so there were experiments with very high voltage systems that called an electric
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grvitic effect where things would lift, right?
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And that was in the 20s.
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It was replicated in Germany and the Kalski Frost experiment.
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We have a physics journal.
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We show that in the film.
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It's in here for the briefing.
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Now imagine those early experiments with so-called anti-gravity.
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Not a good term, but those used to pop culture in here.
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It's actually electrogravitics and electrogravitic field propulsion.
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But it's not a physics class.
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So what happened is that this, that research combined with a augmentation of that research,
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a big leap forward by studying the extraterrestrial vehicles that we downed in the mid-40s and
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So by the time those two streams combined into a mighty river of research, it was covert.
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As far as referring to that Wilbur Smith document, it was secret.
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And he said, this is the most secret operation in the United States, exceeding the secrecy
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of the hydrogen bomb research.
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Now this is 1950 before we detonate the hydrogen bomb.
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So imagine something more classified and secret than the H bomb, the ultimate doomsday weapon.
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So my uncle had his whole career at Northrop Grumman.
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He worked on the lunar module and land on the moon.
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But those big aerospace companies, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Skunk Works, and now Raytheon,
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EG&G, way back then and others.
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They got the portfolio for their special projects to study this material, figure out how it worked,
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So by 1954, we had operational gravity control so that we were building our own UFOs.
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And I always tell people, if you see something you call a UFO or a UAP, you have to ask yourself,
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it could be one of three things.
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It could be an extraterrestrial vehicle or NHI craft is the pop culture now.
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It can be a man-made one coming out of one of these big aerospace companies, which was
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they been zipping around since the late 50s, or it could be neither of them and it could
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be some extra-dimensional entity, something from another dimension that's not extraterrestrial.
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So my way to this work is confusing for people.
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It's deliberately been co-mingled.
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In other words, disinformation specialists from the CIA and other places like Louis Luzando,
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He's called you a terrorist.
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I'm a terrorist for speaking the truth.
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I mean, as opposed to people who are actually trying to create Armageddon, which would
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But the problem is, is that if you don't have enough of the information, and this information
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has been in a blackout for 70 years, you know, if you're a-
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If you're David Fraver flying an F-18 chasing one of these things, and you're not red
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in, you're a jet pilot.
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You're not red into what's coming out of the underground facilities at Skunk Works out there
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So you're going to immediately think, oh shit, I just saw an alien craft.
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You saw something that was made at the Skunk Works that was moving in a way with no visible
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means of propulsion.
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I was just trying to clarify earlier on the anti-gravity side of things.
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Jeremy Riss, alien scientist who's a physics historian, was explaining to me that there
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was two, I think two main groups.
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One was Lewis Witton and his, the people that he was working on it with, and then Bryce
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DeWitt, who was working on anti-gravity in like the earlier 50s, like before 54.
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And he thinks that one of them figured it out, and then I guess from my understanding
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is that Witt Black, all of a sudden, like we got co-opted by somebody.
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And then like in 50, I think it was 57, there was like a, what was it?
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There was some big like anti-gravity conference or something where they were trying to fix-
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But why would they have that conference in 57 if they had figured it out in 54?
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You know what I mean?
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What cause it compartment?
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I mean, the left hand, no the right hand exists.
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I mean, I've done briefings for the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, three
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star general, and he didn't know anything that's going on with this even though he made inquiries.
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So everyone thinks that they're sort of this, you're the president, or you're a three or
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four star general, and you have an all access pass, you do not.
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And that is what my big coming of age on this, and why I started the disclosure project
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right in 1993 was when I briefed the director of the CIA for Bill Clinton.
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I learned, and it's two or three hours, yeah, R. James Woolsey, who since flipped on
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everybody, how did he find you by the way?
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How did he, a friend of his that he had been on the board of the Pentagon think tank,
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knew him and knew it was following what we were doing.
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And it was mainly because in 1992 here in Pensacola, Florida, near there, we had a CE5 contact
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team and we vectored in for ET craft.
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And one of them was on the front page of the Pensacola paper got picked up by the intelligence
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And before you know it, I had all kinds of spooks knocking on my door.
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So, you know, everyone who laughs at that, I say, yeah, what you're missing is the main
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part of the secret dude, you know, you're missing the big picture totally.
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You know, you're flat earthers if you think the universe is 3D flat, you know, you're
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But anyway, so that got on the radar of this think tank that was looking into the subject
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under a contract with the Pentagon.
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And then, and the director of that think tank and the CIA director, we're friends.
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So once he became director of CIA, he and Clinton and some other people, Webster Hubble
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at Justice were trying to find out about UFOs and they were being gas lit in light too or
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deceived and they knew it.
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I mean, Clinton was smart enough to know he was being zoomed.
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And so they reached out to me to come up and provide the information I had.
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Now initially I will say, if you look in my archive, you'll see the letter, the correspondence
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I thought they were just trying to pick my brain and there was like, you know, intel gathering
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No, I mean, the director of CIA and the president had been completely denied access threatened
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And I, you know, at that time, look, I'm a 30 something, you're mid 30s medical doctor,
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working full time in as ER, you know, like the show or something.
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They've never seen the show.
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But the truth is, is that I thought surely they have more information than I do.
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And they were just lying about what the purpose of the meeting was and they were just trying
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to gather information from me.
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He was shaken and they really did.
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And that's when I realized that the organization that's running these covert programs is unconstitutional,
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criminal and has been since the late 1950s since Eisenhower kind of lost control of them.
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So there has been no proper legal constitutional oversight of any of these operations.
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This is dangerous since at least 1956, seven somewhere in that period.
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And that's where Grush came into the picture and he was tasked to track down some of this
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lost black budget money, right?
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That's where when all these whistleblowers started to come out recently.
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I mean, that's a late recent event.
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There were more significant events that happened in the 90s that people don't know about or
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don't talk about because Clinton had set up a military team.
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You know, because they used to call it team blue was the regular military team black for
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these illegal projects.
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And he's set up what's called team red to penetrate those covert illegal programs.
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Most of the, I know some of these guys.
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Most of those guys were killed or absorbed into team black.
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So some of the whistleblowers just now coming forward.
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Some of the older ones had been on team red.
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I can't say which ones, but they'll disclose that when they're ready.
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And they got totally pulled into these illegally run operations.
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Now remember, if you're a 18, 20, 25 year old Delta force guy or a grain beret, you're
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not read into the chain of command up above you.
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You just go, yes, sir, and you're going to do what you're going to do.
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But once they reached a certain level of seniority, they realized they were in an illegal criminal
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operation, which is when they reached out to me.
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And they said, one of them said, thank you for what you're doing for those of us stuck
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on the other side, meaning stuck in this illegal criminal operation.
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So the good thing is there's a momentum happening now.
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If we can get whistleblower protections through the Congress and executive order from the
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president, where there's a whole damn rate of break of folks like that that we have, who
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will come forward and with the evidence.
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And this will begin to be solved.
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It's just the beginning.
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So that's what we're trying to work on.
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But it way, way, way predate, I met with Mr. Grush when he was still undercover.
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And gave him information in his bosses, were people that were people I had briefed in
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the skiff, the secure compartment information facility.
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So he came out with what he had done, but he was secondhand.
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He had not been operational.
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I'm talking about the first hand operational people.
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What's interesting, if you look at the House Oversight Committee hearings, it's all
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been all these secondhand people.
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And I told a Congressman Barchett and Luna, and said, why don't you subpoena the people
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Here's a list of the top 25.
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And these are people like I just described who are operational at the skunk works.
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Interestingly, they never call those people to our hearing.
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I said, don't call me.
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I'm just the doorway.
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I'm the opener, right?
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And here are their name.
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And by the way, here's their DD214.
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And here's where they're operational.
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So, you know, you have to wonder why, I mean, are really people that clueless in Washington
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or something going on there?
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So, your disclosure project has, I believe, over 400 military witnesses.
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And what would you say is the most credible out of all of those witnesses?
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Well, you know, it's the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
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Now remember, I think these guys just starting to come out who've dealt with the targeting
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and downing of these craft and how they've done it and the collateral damage, the civilians
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in private airplanes that have been killed in the process, that is one of the biggest
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stories in American history that's about to come out.
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So private planes that have come down.
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So let me explain how this works.
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So let's say you're out at some black side out in the desert out west.
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I don't say which one I was fine.
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I've been in this special forces guy's chopper that's on the retrieval teams and flown
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over this area and seen the equipment and the underground base opening, all that.
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And I have pictures and videos of it.
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It's in your presidential briefing right here?
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And that actually, this is available for people to order now.
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We've sanitized some of the sensitive names out and you can go and order it in a hard
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How do you order it?
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My assistant will give you guys a link.
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But everyone listening can get one.
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And how would they go about doing that?
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They would get the link for your assistant?
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No, well, no, you can put it up.
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You know, it's a link to it.
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And our doctor Stephen Gerrard dot com, they'll be a link to it right, Raven.
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Anyway, I don't do that stuff.
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And then this is, and then what is your plan with this?
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This has already been provided to the incoming new president and to some of his senior folks.
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And we're continuing and also to the key oversight committee sent intelligence armed services.
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What was their reaction to it?
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But they well, they're just now studying it.
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It's enormous amount of information and intelligence.
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So there are some entities that are on the enforcement end of US government that are now
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drilling down heavy on the, the same methods and sources that are in here.
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The people, the witnesses, the whistleblowers and the facilities and corporations.
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Probably one of the most significant people to come forward if we can protect them is
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the former chairman of a Fortune 50 company that's been involved with this.
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It's a household name.
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I'm going to say which one.
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And he wants to come forward.
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He's like 80 years old this year and he deeply regrets what they've done.
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And you know, he's admitted that they have the schematics and the designs to provide free
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energy, quote unquote, to the whole world.
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And he really regrets all this secrecy.
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But at the same time, he, as soon as he reached out to me through his assistant and friend.
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Fortune 50, one of the top 50 companies.
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No, I'm not going to play that game.
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I would betray that man's trust because it'd be easy for someone to figure out who it is.
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It was an military contractor though.
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It's a big company that has a lot of fingers and a lot of pies.
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But this man, but then was threatened and they threatened to kill his whole family and
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So one I'm trying, what I'm trying to get and it was, you know, the Senate Intelligence
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Committee passed in 2023 unanimously the provision to give amnesty or safe harbor to these
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kind of people, right?
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But the house in the reconciliation of the bill took it out due to a couple of guys who
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were, I think, bad actors there.
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Yeah, who are those guys again?
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Were those the Ohio guys?
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No, no, yeah, my turner.
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My turner was chair of Senate Intelligence and the other mic Rogers who was chair of
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Now a few other people got in that and it kind of, why?
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Why do you think those two guys?
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Because I think they receive a lot of funding from the very people that need to be exposed.
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I mean, you know, I think it's not obviously their caring water for someone, which is corruption.
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But that's Washington, right?
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I mean, he's got the money, he's got the black mill file on you.
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You know, yeah, people get bribed, people get threatened, people get killed.
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It's not a conspiracy theory.
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I've had all those games run on me.
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So, but I think that, you know, someone like that would have, you know, a lot of the keys
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But if you're at risk for recode charges, right?
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Federal, racketeering, influence, corrupt organization charges due to the criminal activity
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that you oversaw as an executive and maybe worse things.
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But you're also under threat from the organization keeping the secret of having you or your family
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Like this gentleman, I don't think he would mind if he got killed, but he doesn't want
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his children and grandchildren killed.
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And so what is his, what is his, what is his connection to the stuff?
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No, it's a chairman of a massive corporation, but he was read into a very special project
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compartmented area dealing with the technology.
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And that's the reason he won't, he doesn't want to come forward publicly because he's been
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threatened, his family's been threatened.
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And so it's, now I know who he is.
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And the people who are going to need to know, you know, the president of, you know, attorney
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general law enforcement and on down the system will know or do know by now.
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So the only question becomes, what do they end up about it?
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Now, you know, when I was beginning to tell you about these black sites, all right?
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Now imagine, okay, you're out in a desert site, remote, no access.
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I mean, ground sensors are not going to get in there easily.
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And underneath the ground out there, there is a huge complex of stiffs, there's subterranean
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facilities and some people don't dumps deep underground military bases.
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And in our briefing document you can get, it actually has 150 or so of these sites where
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UFO related operations have been, some are key ones, some have been incidental or peripheral
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And that's available for anyone to look at.
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I mean, anyone wants to look at it can see it.
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And so I'm in this chopper hovering over one of these and there's the opening from underground
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where the man made UFOs go up, go over a test range and they're hit with electromagnetic
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weapons to see how hard they are before they're good to go.
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Those are man made and they're manned with people.
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And are these similar to like Tick-Tack stuff, the Tick-Tack UFOs?
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They're all different shapes.
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They're egg octagonal, they're discs, they're the ones that are northrop grum and
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Rheon generally, not all tend to be triangular or trapezoidal or they're not necessarily
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equilateral triangles.
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They're not necessarily equilateral triangles.
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They're like Sosseles.
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And the many of the ones that are cigar shaped or Tick-Tack shaped or discs or octagonal
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are Lockheed Sconk works, EG&G and some others.
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So all the prime contractors that we know of where we have sources are named in the
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And I've been building that list for 30 years.
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Ever since I was asked to put it together.
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And the problem is, and this gets to sort of a gut check here.
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What are you going to do about it?
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Because let's say you're the president or you're, if I was to his own Patrick Bette,
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David's show a couple days ago.
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He's a big professor and a great guy.
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And he asked me, he said, well, you know, do you think the president is the most powerful
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I said, well, he could be, but he isn't.
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He showed a clip of Mr. Trump saying he is.
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But when they realize what they're up against with this, the power you're talking about
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derives from extraordinary technological prowess.
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So to make this real for people, I just tell this is sort of a pocryphal.
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But in 1997, excuse me, I was asked to do a stand-up briefing for, and this document
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leaked, a report about this leaked out of Edgar Mitchell's archive when he died.
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But my military advisor, who I'll be seeing tomorrow, who's retired, and I, an Edgar
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Mitchell, the six man of the walk on the moon, and Eisenhower, Error, whistleblower, and
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my assistant Sherry, Adam, were in attendance.
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But I was asked to do a stand-up briefing for Admiral Tom Wilson, who is J2, the head of
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intelligence joint staff.
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And you know, prior to the briefing, I'd sent over something similar to this, but different.
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But one of the documents that was in there is in here, and it's a National Reconnaissance
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Office, an NRO, which is the big entity that runs all the Spice Satellites document from
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Area 51, Nellis, warning of civilians trying to spy on the range where they test and
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do the research on the man-made UFOs, right?
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And they didn't want that to get out.
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But in that, it's not been declassified, but it's legit.
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And it lists the project code numbers and names, right?
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So it's a 91 document, this meeting's in 97, so it wasn't antique, right?
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So I give it, I have someone hand-deliver it to the Admiral prior to the meeting.
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So he starts digging into this, and he hits Peter.
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He finds a few key offices where this is going on, he calls them up, and he says, hey,
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you know, I want to be read into this.
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And he says, I'm Adam Rolton Wilson, I'm J2, head of intelligence, joint staff.
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And they say, sir, we can't discuss this with you.
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And you don't have a need to know.
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And of course, his reaction was, well, goddamn it.
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I mean, I'm the head of intelligence with the joint chiefs of staff.
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How can I not have a need to know?
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Excuse my language, but I mean, this is like mind-blowing, right?
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So he backed off of it.
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But at the meeting, at the end of the meeting, and it was supposed to be 45 minutes, I think
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it went on for two or three hours.
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He kept canceling appointments.
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I asked him, I said, we need your help.
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You know, I'm just an emergency doctor doing this because I'm interested, but it's serious
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And he asked me, who else has had this happen to them?
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I said, well, the Secretary of Defense, the CI director, the president, he said, well,
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what am I going to do?
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I said, yeah, but you're here key in the military and the Pentagon.
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And he says, no, here's what I've learned.
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And this is how he said it.
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He says, I've learned that the best thing I have in the normal constitutional government
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in military is a B2 stealth.
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And that organization have craft that are anti-gravity that can do circles.
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He did like this circles around my B2 stealth.
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He says it's point set match.
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He said, you know, we're checkmated because of the technology.
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So now we're into the horns of the dilemma right here because, you know, I realized going
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up against corrupt interests that have that level of technology, which is very dangerous.
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And when I literally tell people the threat from that organization, which is international,
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have these technologies far exceeds the threat of China, Iran, Russia, terrorism, and
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by order of magnitude.
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And no one's doing anything about it because no one has quite figured out what the threat
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matrix is, what the threat assessment.
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So what we're trying to do, not to scare the hell out of these officials, but to say,
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Now the solution, the best outcome of this that we're recommending is a glide path out
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You know, we're not violent.
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It's not a red on black war or something.
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It's giving people who want to come forward a path out and they take it and it unravels
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that system and it gets transformed into another initiative.
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That those old legacy programs that have been going along without any accountability for
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60 plus years, those are put out to pasture.
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So and wound down, but it's got to happen that way or it's going to be a mess.
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Are you saying that these organizations that are in possession of this technology and that
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control this stuff that are keeping it away from the US government?
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Are they like their own autonomous government, a slash military slash air force that is
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completely detached from any other world government?
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They're detached and embedded at the same time.
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So and almost and and more arguably more powerful way more absolutely way more.
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This is why you know, it's interesting when Jimmy Carter, you know, I was has not to
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I used to pass away now.
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So he's just your camera.
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When when when President Carter was some years ago in Spain signing guitars, it was a classical
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guitars who was there told me that suit was part of our team and he said that at the words,
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it was a fundraiser for the Carter Center.
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And they were auctioning off these guitars, right?
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President signed them.
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At a dinner afterwards, there are a few people there and someone asked him, they said,
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sir, what was it like being the most powerful man in the world?
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And President Carter says, I wasn't that man.
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And they go, what do you mean?
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He says, well, there are certain things that I had no control over.
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And I was even allowed to know about.
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And someone giggle, don't you joking.
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We mean things like UFOs and he said, yes, that and more.
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So that was, of course, he was President 7680, took off 77 January, left in 1981 and Reagan
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So once you understand that, then you go, well, who is mining the store here?
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Well, it's sort of like if you remember a brilliant guy, Senator Inuy of Hawaii who did
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the Iran Contra hearings.
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Right, right, right.
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And he said there exists a secret government shadow government with its own air force,
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its own Navy, its own funding mechanism that's free from the law and above the law itself.
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I'm paraphrasing, but that clip is in our archive.
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And years later, after I did the original disclosure project conference in 2001, an attorney
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on our team who was then an intern, undergraduate intern was met with Senator Inuy.
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And we had just done the National Press Club event in 2001, right for 9-11.
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And this attorney, Garcia, has written an affidavit to this effect.
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He talked to Senator Inuy.
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And basically, the UFO issues, that's the crown jewel of this shadow secret government operation.
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And it is above the constitution and the law.
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The kinds of technologies they have, I mean, we're not talking about a jet aircraft or
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I tell people, rockets were cool until 1954.
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So if you think SpaceX rockets, you can all get out.
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You're only 70 years behind the times, bro.
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But this means that you have an organization.
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Some initials, one of the initials on that NRO document was magic.
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It stands for majority joint intelligence committee or MAJI, MHAI.
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Oh, MAJI, that's fun.
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Do you think that any of these witnesses are strategic disinfo?
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Like if I was the secret government that had control of the stuff, I would deliberately
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inject some bullshit into this and put some, I would absolutely put some fake whistle
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And that's something we have to always, we've had this happen a couple times, right?
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Before we did the meeting for Admiral Wilson, we had a gathering off site for members of
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And the chairman of the House of Oversight Committee was there, Dan Burton and all those
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And we found out the night before, and I don't credit myself with this.
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My military advisor, who has to be nameless, an egremittial and another person was sitting
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at a bar with this guy.
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And he started telling things that they knew were factually not true.
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So I got word of that.
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I was already up in my room and I said, that person is removed and escorted off the properties
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And if necessary, by force.
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So that person was ejected from the meeting that was happening the next day with these
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members of Congress.
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So, yeah, of course, I mean that's something we always watch for.
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But I'm certain that what I'm sharing with you about this is true.
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And I don't rely on one source.
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So in other words, if something, the crazier the count is, the more I want to hear from
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multiple corroborating witnesses that don't know each other.
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So there's no collusion.
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So that's what we've tried to build with this mosaic, this disclosure mosaic, the great
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Because you could always have two or three people who work with each other that come fabulate
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So, that's something that happened with this recent fella that was just on Jesse Michael
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podcast, Jake Barber, I believe his last name is.
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No, I know Jake very well.
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Yeah, he mentioned you.
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Fantastic little documentary that Jesse Michael's put together.
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And Michael Herrera, I believe.
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And he mentioned during that interview that Jake, and I'm probably butchering this, I don't
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remember it perfectly, but he said that he was a part of some secret black program going
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to one of your conferences to try to subvert some of your witnesses.
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A year and a half ago.
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Some of your witnesses.
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Oh, that was a year and a half ago.
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And then when he heard this guy Michael Herrera's testimony, he said, holy shit, that's exactly
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That's like, that was, I saw this with my own eyes.
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And then he said he had some coming to Jesus moment where he said, oh, no, I can't do
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I have to go against the grain here.
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No, he's, he's, I know.
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His cover, I know who he worked for.
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I've been at the facility.
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Jake, Barbara and his team.
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And Fred and also Don Paul, great guys.
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And they're not gaslighting anyone.
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Now, they're not sharing everything either because, you know, it's dangerous.
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But now there's some unsavory people that I think have attached themselves to these
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You know, DeLue, Elizondo crowd in the whole disinformation nexus of retail.
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Yeah, I want to get to that.
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I don't, I want you to explain that to me later.
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I don't want to like interject that right now, but that's something I would definitely
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want to put a pin in.
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Well, it's just, wait, it's way the world works, man.
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In one part, information, nine parts disinformation, right.
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And by the way, the best disinformation, false information, it's sort of like a poison
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It's coated in real information.
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You swallow it and then you're done, right?
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So this technique of counterintelligence, I'm quite reversed in and how it operates and
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how the psy-opsychological warfare operations run these operations on people who are innocent
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But Herrera, by the way, had approached me some years ago.
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And Michael Herrera was a Marine for people who don't know.
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He can go to our archive and see this account in the illustration of what he saw.
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Can you explain it for people who don't?
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So he was, it was in, I believe 2009.
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And he was a young Marine, I think, 20 years old.
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And there was a tsunami in earthquake in Indonesia.
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They were on an expeditionary force, a humanitarian mission to go there and help people and out
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They were in the Pacific region.
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And he and five of his platoon buddies went off in the direction and in the jungle.
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And there was a clearing.
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And there was a 300-foot diameter manmade UFO, basically octagonal.
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He knew that it was manmade.
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Oh, he could tell it was manmade.
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And it was manned by special operations guys, but in civilian garb.
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They were told, you know, basically put down your weapons.
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They confiscated their weapons.
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They took their IDs.
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They threatened to kill them, per being seen this.
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And one of the things he saw, they're going to kill their own US Marines.
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Whether or not they're owned.
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This is this shadow secret government, right?
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I mean, those are the real people committing trees and traitors.
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And yes, they'll kill their own.
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I mean, look at Jonathan Wiggins' testimony when he was in the Peruvian Bolivian border
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where we shot down an ET craft.
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And he and his guys came across at first and the security people who were in there to retrieve.
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It said, you talk about this.
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We'll throw you out of the helicopter and they'll never find you in the jungle.
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So this happens all the time.
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They do kill their own people, but they're not their own people.
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They're Americans, though, right?
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Yeah, they're Americans.
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But it's, you know, these are people who are running a criminal enterprise.
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The biggest, you know, think of the mafia is the largest criminal organization on the
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So, you know, when the FBI is ready and wants to grow up and be serious, they have a real
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Technology that very few human beings can get.
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So the other thing that Michael Herrera saw was this crate.
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And it was a, it was a, it was a, and it looked like it had like a little oxygen and HVC
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mini portable unit on it.
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And he thought they were running drugs.
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And it turned out because Jake was at this conference to try to bump witnesses and see
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who need to be turned over for either what works or arrest.
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And of course, he immediately texted me because he has my number and he went to the green
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And his security guy.
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But he was going to your conference to subvert some of your witnesses.
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Well, that's what his job was.
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It was to find it's stop leaks and find out if I had the Panasonic Toughbook that had
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been missing out of one of these corporations.
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I know which one it is that had all this intel on it because I received stuff all the
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And he thought, maybe I had it.
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Now I didn't know that's why he was there, right?
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And prior to that, I had had a meeting with one of his security people at a bar near Langley
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and near CIA, Tyson's corner in Virginia.
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And he gave me a little thumb derived that was like a 10 page description of his involvement
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and what he was doing.
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And he subsequently, a month or two later, came June, 2023 to this disclosure project conference
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and press conference we did where Herrera and some other whistleblowers were speaking.
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And but he immediately said, I need to see you.
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So I'll go back to the green room.
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And he says, that isn't drugs.
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And so what they were doing, what they, the way they get their psionic and other staphless
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call it at these underground facilities is let's say there's a terrible disaster or war
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People are desperate.
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And they're, they're not kidnapped per se, but it's under arrest.
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They're basically told you can either come with us and be part of our program.
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I'll describe it in a moment.
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Or you can stay here and die.
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Now I wouldn't call that a very, but this is how it is.
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This is brutal stuff, right?
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And that's what was in those crates.
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And there were people who were candidates for being, how did they discern what kind of
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They were looking for people with a certain demographic that they felt would have a high psionic
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Am I correct in saying they were children?
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Somehow there's a tendency for left-handedness for that ability and gay and bisexual men.
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So that's who they were looking for because like Ingoswan was, I knew him very well, Ingos
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and there was a gay guy, brilliant remote viewer.
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I mean, if you can hung up on that, I say.
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Well, like if you're talking about raise your hand.
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Who could left-handed like, we need you.
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No, no, they don't do it that way.
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They know that's not be silly.
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But I mean, they will scope out and then they'll say, and of course it's a rough sort of
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They were then created up, taken to a facility.
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And the ones that pass muster for their side capabilities, psionic, psychic capabilities,
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go through a program.
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Now, a lot of those end up dying because they're put on drugs and dopamine, electromagnetic
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Many end up dying or put in comas and hold on.
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So getting these people, so this specific situation, Michael Herrera was in Indonesia after
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there was an earthquake.
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They essentially, you don't want to say kidnap because that's not a nice way to putting
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it, but it's essentially kidnapped them.
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And take it under some duress.
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I mean, around with us, her died.
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Well, you can call that whatever you want.
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It sounds like some level of human trafficking.
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About these children to a secret base, secret black site that they control for psychic warfare.
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And for training to be psionic, hijackers of ET craft.
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That's just the next part of it.
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And they trained them to be psychic psionic.
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What is so, yeah, to hijack these crap.
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And you're saying that they put, they gave them drugs.
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What kind of drugs do they give them and why do they give them drugs?
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I don't have the whole protocol.
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I just know that they were dopamine related and also there were electromagnetic systems.
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And there were a lot of bad outcomes.
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But the ones who passed through it have an extraordinary capability, but it's an enhanced.
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So basically the way they describe it to me is that you have the people who are the operators,
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say the regular human covert folks.
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These people are humans that are sort of machine tools that are the, right?
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They're used to then tap into the guidance and control systems of these ET craft because
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they're using what I just described technology assisted consciousness where they're, you
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know, you think to it, you see these accounts of the ET standing there touching something
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they just think and it goes there.
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So okay, I know this is getting out there, but it's not.
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It's making it the crazy thing is it makes sense.
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No, it totally makes sense.
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And the course is goes back to my 1973 experience with the ET's where I knew this is what they
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So and I believe that's why in 1992, General Stubblebine personally offered me $2 billion to be
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part of his little freak show, by the way.
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I mean, I offered you $2 billion.
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What does that mean?
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Well, because I'm not a corrupt person.
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Oh my God, $2 billion.
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I mean, I saved lives.
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I saved lives for a living.
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I don't want to be part of a cabal of sociopaths and psychopaths destroying the planet, right?
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Did you have a part of his team, a senior member of his team because of my abilities and
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also being a doctor with these capabilities?
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I mean, they were going to, and who was he exactly?
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He had been, I'm not familiar with it.
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Head of NCOM and he was head of Army Intelligence and General Upper Stubblebine, the third
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and birth, approached me and then I said, no, I don't know, but hell no.
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And then he went to my wife.
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We're about to have our 46th anniversary and he tried to sweet talk her into this madness.
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And she was very, thought he was very nice.
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I said no, double speak with Fort Tongue.
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Why was he such an evil person?
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Oh, he was part of that whole group of folks.
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He was like, he's passed away, but he was part of the same kind of group that people
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like Colonel Alexander and Elizondo.
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They're all part of that whole operation.
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They have different roles, but his role was to interface from that black illegal program
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world with the UFO subculture.
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This is like 33 years ago, right?
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So psychological information, manipulation, trying to handle the perception, the public
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perception of this stuff in the United States is basically what he wanted you to help
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Yes, but also be part of that operational team is what I think in terms of these capabilities.
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Because he knew that we had done.
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He approached me right after there was proof that our CE5 contact had worked and there
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are these 4ET craft that appeared here in Florida, outside Pensacola.
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So that is when he surfaced, exactly then.
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Now of course, everyone makes fun of us for doing that.
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Oh, it's Ouija board stuff.
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I still like the hell it is.
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You think these civilizations are using your iPhone?
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Why would they be using 20th century and early 21st century communications technologies?
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They're using stuff like Elon would like to do, Musk would like to do with Neuralink,
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except without the wires, right?
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Not the speed of light, it's speed of thought, like that, right?
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So that program has been in development for decades, but it reached the level of success.
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I mean, if you can call hijacking, ET craft and then blowing them out of the sky with
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olerctromagnetic post weapons, which are illegal, by the way.
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I just can't get over $2 billion.
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You're a better man than me.
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I might have been doing it.
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I would have saluted it and been a sia up, fucking head of sia ups.
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I'm not interested in that.
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Look, I mean, I'm not rich, but I'm comfortable as a doctor.
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I don't need that and I've never had aspirations for that.
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Whether people in the comments who think I'm CIA funded podcasts, if the CIA wants to offer
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me a million bucks, I'm signing right up.
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Well, that's the joke.
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I mean, I bootstrapped this whole effort for 35 years with a handful of people in their
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office and a couple of volunteers and one and a half staff members and my wife and me.
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So I said, oh yeah, if I were that guy, I would have been a bad guy.
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I wouldn't be doing this.
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Do you ever think back, just laying a bed late at night, like, God damn it.
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Maybe I should have taken that $2 billion.
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Because then you're that you're owned.
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You're an owned asset.
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Yeah, maybe I value my freedom more and I value all the money on earth.
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Did he offer it in payments?
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Or was it like an upfront lump sum?
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The way he described is that after the cohort ended and the Soviet Union was falling apart
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in the late 80s, early 90s, that they had seized a bunch of assets in Eastern Europe and
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they had a slush fund and that I would have control and access of that.
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And it was a lot of money.
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And look, the kind of black budget money these guys have, it's enormous.
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There's another guy who told me in 93, a couple months for a brief CI director and he
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was technically involved with the UFO subculture, but he was a tech guy who was embedded with
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this shadow government.
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And he said, look, we have given at least 10,000 people, $10 million at peace or more to
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secure their cooperation with what we're doing.
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And then he made another offer to me.
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And this was about a year and a half after General Stubbelbine.
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So I said, no, thank you.
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I don't want to go to that route.
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I want to stay independent and free.
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But I would imagine the disinfo people, they probably target media personalities.
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They're podcasts maybe.
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You know, if they're still do it, I mean, imagine what they were doing with Richard Doty
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in like, what was it?
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The 70s, 80s with Paul Benowitz and the level they went to to go to these UFO conferences
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and try to get these people and say, hey, I'm going to give you some secrets.
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If you just go out there and get us some intel and these people and meanwhile the secrets
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they're giving them are like half baked bullshit.
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Have you ever seen the documentary unacknowledged that we did?
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It's had about 800, 900 million people.
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I don't think you've seen that one.
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Unacknowledged is the one that prompted them to shove Elizondo out into the public from
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his counterintelligence operation at the Pentagon.
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It's had well over 800 million people see it and in that we interview Mr. Doty and he
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admits to carrying bags of cash to people.
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Oh, yes, I have seen this.
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I've seen this clip and he also admits that there were abduction programs that we were
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But then you got really scared.
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I can't talk about that.
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There are multiple people who confirm that.
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Now we also have a book in 92 that Jacques Ballet wrote, who's a very well-known researcher
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on this astronomer astrophysicist, I think.
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And he admits to having a document from the CIA from 1985.
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This is in the briefing.
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Where he admits that this document he has.
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He won't release it.
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I think he's been threatened.
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And it talks about the agency, the CIA going down to Argentina in Brazil, abducting peasants,
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making it look like aliens were abducting them using these advanced technology systems
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And I'm quoting their psychological warfare value.
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So imagine how easy it's like taking candy from a baby in the amateur UFO research subculture
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to stage this stuff and get everyone to Twitter talking about how the aliens did X, Y and
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Z. And there's staging.
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It's called stage craft.
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I know what the technologies are.
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I have to brief people who are operational on the man made UFOs doing it.
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The cattle mutilation has nothing to do with ETs.
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It's all us that we can prove.
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So the project gas barrier or something?
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Where they detonated in the 70s.
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They detonated a subterranean nuke and they had helicopters going out and basically this
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is correct where they were mutilating cattle and they were trying to they were doing surgical
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operations and taking out certain parts of the cattle, the tongue, the glands and trying
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to determine whether they had been infected with this sort of radiation, whether the food
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and the crops and the cattle had been infected with this stuff.
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Well, that's one operation.
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There's another operation to get substrate material, biological growth material.
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For their little weird gray and other reptilian looking.
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The man made ETs, right?
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Because some of them are not just robotic, some are.
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But the more advanced ones are sort of what they call bionano machines.
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So they have a biological and a technological component, but they're man made.
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And people go, this is sounds too far out.
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Imagine what kind of, you know, if you have that kind of mad scientist mentality, it's
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like Dr. Strange loved.
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And you've got the virtually limitless funding, black budget and otherwise criminal,
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organ, you know, drug running, everything.
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And you've got ET technologies that you're studying for decades.
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You're going to be able to come out with a whole constellation of dirty tricks, right?
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It's so interesting to detangle this stuff though.
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Well, that's my job.
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It's like trying to make sense out of this madness.
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And from my understanding of the cattle mutilation is the atomic energy commission.
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Like when they, when they did that, I think it was in 67 where they detonated the subterranean
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nuke to find natural gas reserves in Dulce, New Mexico.
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What they did was they, the cattle mutilation was like a monitoring program to assess radiation
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leakage in the ecosystem or whatever.
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And at the same time, they were doing, they were testing some of this exotic aircraft over
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the same location that people started to think, Oh my God, these aircraft are doing this
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to the cattle, it's aliens.
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So they said, Oh, the people are saying that we're going to keep flying our aircraft over
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those cattle testing mutilation deals.
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So that was like to insane level of just public perception.
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And then all you have to do is have someone write, you know, an alien harvest like Linda
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Moodenhal where you have people write abduction books.
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And it was interesting, the very people who are setting this up will guide those victims.
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And they are victims.
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I'm not saying these abduction people aren't real.
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They have been victimized.
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But they haven't been taken by extraterrestrials.
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They've been taken by covert human special operations made the look alien.
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It's a look alike, right?
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So those programs, they sell and the media, which is as corrupt as anything you can
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imagine, the legacy media, you know, a lot of those people there, you know, like I will
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be absolutely not only shadow banned, but banned to tell the truth on a lot of media.
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Whereas if you're going forward telling a lie, boom, you're on 60 minutes, boom, you're
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Because the big media is, I think, probably more corrupt than any other institution in
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the United States or the world.
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And being controlled by these interests.
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Yeah, but how do they, I understand how the media is controlled by advertising dollars.
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But how are, how do you think they're controlled by these rogue, military, aerospace companies?
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Money and control, paid backdoor and money to them.
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They have a non-official cover.
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You know, by day and public persona, they're a media person.
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They're actually working with the agency or some other entity that's part of this compartmented
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And I know people like that.
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I mean, probably if I had taken the money, I would have been one of those guys, right?
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So, you know, that's how that works.
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And it makes one of the problems with Washington is everyone's so busy doing a million different
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You know, they have 99 things to do every day.
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And this thing, as you pointed out at the beginning and you're right, is a, it's such a
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confusing mess of conflicting information.
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That they just go, I don't want to hear.
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It is too complicated, right?
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But that is part of the reason they've made it complicated.
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By making it just incomprehensible.
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It's impossible to know what to feel.
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We have to make it understandable and kind of, I liken this to like, you know, the epiphany
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moment in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy and whoever the scarecrow, and they pull back
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And there's this old cred mudge and pulling the levers, right?
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That's what this is.
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So part of what we have to do is not just say, here's the evidence for NHI craft and
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people, extraterrestrial craft and people.
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But here's the other part of it.
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Here's the dominant information, disinformation.
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That's out in ufology and the media and documentaries and films and books has actually been staged
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by the very people trying to keep it secret.
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So that you're looking over here and not the truth.
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And they're very good at doing this, Danny.
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And one of my favorite stories was from Annie Jacobson in her area 51 book where she interviewed
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the CIA pilots who were test flying the first jet planes over the Air Force Base and they
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said they purposely brought gorilla masks in the cockpit for in the chance that they flew
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by a civilian aircraft.
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They put the gorilla mask on so that they're just they're poisoning that story already.
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So if the guy goes to the bar later, because dude, I saw a monkey flying of jet plane.
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Well, and the early abductions in the late 50s, early 60s, they had the man-made ufos
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that and they had some guys very short stature or not quite looking normal and they kind
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of like Hollywood, you can make a guy look like Darth Vader or whatever that they had that
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stage craft and it was incredibly convincing.
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Because even now, now you look at one of our witnesses who whistleblowers who came forward
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a year and a half ago, Stephen Digno.
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He was at Fort Irwin, California in 2000 and he was caught out by some Rheathion guys
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to look at some objects that were out over the range and they had to cancel their live
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fire exercises because of this and it was a triangular, not quite a collateral, more
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of a pointed triangular craft and they didn't know he picked up a pair of night vision scoops
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and he looked at it, he saw the detail on it and then he saw that there were several others
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that were holographic projections of the real one and so it looked like there was a fleet
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And this is how you stage a fake alien attack.
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Yeah, they had this, this was all part of that declassified Northwoods thing where they
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were trying to stage a fake invasion over Cuba.
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Well, no, this was a separate incident but it's very similar to that.
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It's very similar and so they were very upset that he figured that out.
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And the Rheathion guys, a few days later abducted him and his wife on coming back from
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a movie back to the base on this road, well in California, remote road and anyone who
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would have seen that craft and what happened would have sworn it was an alien vehicle and
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He suffered terrible damages, he was very damaged and he was very sick.
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So that is what happens if you get too close to the truth and he's an incredibly sweet
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man, very courageous, he's totally telling the truth.
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But I would say if you took a million people on earth and showed them that craft, that
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Rheathion object craft in 2000, 25 years ago, right?
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I don't think one person would think that it was manmade and this is a problem for the
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National Security Council and the president because everyone assumes that what I'm telling
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you, they know, they don't.
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If you've seen the documentary unacknowledged, you know more about this subject than virtually
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anyone in the US Congress except the bad apples who are on the payroll of the shadow of
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So this is a problem.
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I mean, if you want to live in a free society and a democracy, you can't have something
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that's important, you know completely ignored by your elected officials.
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And also the benefit of having so much bullshit out there is if the truth does get out,
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it doesn't fucking matter because there's what's the, what are the chances that they're
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going to pick that as being the truth?
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Well, that's, that's, you know, now you, you're very smart because you've just hit the
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nail on the coffin, what keeps me up at night.
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Is and that's why I don't trust any of these whistleblowers because I don't, I don't
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I know the ones I know and now here's someone like, like Mr. Grush, he was telling 100%
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the truth until he started telling tall tales that were being fed to him by Lou Elizondo.
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About how the aliens had blown up villages and I don't know what South America or some
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That was Elizondo told him that.
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So he fell into that disinformation trap along with the information trap.
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But a lot of people do that.
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Because those guys will say, hey, I can get you a $10 million book or movie deal and I can
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get you on 60 minutes.
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So you know, there are advantages to going with those folks as opposed to doing it.
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Let's call it clean.
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Because doing it clean is a hard path.
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I mean, you know, I, you know, it's been a big struggle for me and my family and, you
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know, you have all kinds of problems because of it.
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But I don't regret it.
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I mean, I wouldn't do anything different at all.
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But it's dangerous and it's very ungratifying from a personal point of view.
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Except I feel that this is something, if this doesn't get resolved properly, what Werner
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Von Braun warned about, right?
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He said, look, the whole plan is to stage an alien threat so we can unite the world around
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this sort of fascist, totalitarian, militaristic sort of thing.
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It's like the movie Independence Day, right?
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And we'll say, let's go kick alien butt and you see the Arabs and every party in the world
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united to fight the aliens.
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So that's all right.
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I had a CIA scripting.
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Biology, that's the narrative.
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They're the good aliens and the bad ones.
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And the, so it's Star Wars, right?
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It's all that narrative.
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And I go, you eat at least members of Congress are saying, look, if these civilizations
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were hostile given that their technologies are hundreds of thousands of years more advanced
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in hours, we'd be gone.
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We'd be a charcoal brachet floating space.
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Now do they have, this is not to say, I'm not naive.
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This is not to say that those civilizations don't have some self-interest.
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Because what would you think?
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I mean, it just puts yourself in the shoes and through the eyes of an ET.
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You come across this planet and in a few decades, it goes from muskets and machine guns
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to thermonuclear weapons to, to very advanced electromagnetic weapons, including the so-called
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scalar ones that are knocking ET craft now.
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And then the same group going off the reservation of any controls, reverse engineers, your
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ET technologies, and start using it against you.
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That's the crisis that no one's talking about.
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And you know, Jake and people like him will say, you know, it's at the point now where
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If the advanced technologies humans have to most people on earth would be indistinguishable
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from an ET vehicle or NHI craft.
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And there's a big risk there because number one, they could stage a false flag attack
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and everyone would think it was alien, which is what their plan is.
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That's what the drones were all about, by the way.
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I mean, Mr. Trump got that wrong when his press secretary commented on that.
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We know what that was.
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And by coordinated by who?
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By the same people who are trying to be sure that when this comes out this year and next,
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that it's done with the specter of fear.
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People look at the sky.
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I'm afraid they look just like hobby drones.
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Like they looked at the walls.
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They weren't moving crazy at all.
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No, I have no, I know a team that was under contract with Lockheed Martin that has some
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images of some of this stuff.
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And some of them are pretty amazing.
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And the daytime ones that they've captured.
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Now, they're not extraterrestrial.
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They're our advanced stuff.
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But again, and some have said, well, these are originated from China, but that's a misnomer
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because this shadow government entity is transnational.
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You can label whatever country you want.
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When I was the first time I went to meet with this latest efforts about three years ago,
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at the Senate Intelligence Committee's Schiff, and I went in there and I said, see that
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map of the world, erase all the geopolitical boundaries, like the boundary between Canada
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and the United States or Mongolia and China or whatever.
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This organization, the world is their oyster.
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They don't care about that.
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Now, the truth is, people like Jake Burber and his guys are patriots who got stuck in
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that system, as I said, and they deserve a clean path out, a safe path out.
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And that's what has to happen.
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That's got to happen from the Congress and from the President's Executive Order, which
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I've seen some drafts of those.
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And so they're in here.
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The recommendations are in here for what those need to be and they need to be done yesterday.
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We kind of just got really sad.
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I tracked down a crazy rabbit hole.
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After we started talking about Jake and Michael Herrera's situation where they were extracting
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He's the only guy who I've ever heard about who saw something like that and was not killed.
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He's really only survived his guys.
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I said, you have no idea how rare.
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It is for someone like you, a kid, 20 years old, seeing something like that for them not
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So yeah, I remember from that story, Jake was like saying the guys were saying, should
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we smoke these guys?
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Should we smoke these guys?
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Well, they ended up not doing that.
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So they're taking these children from foreign countries, these underdeveloped places.
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But the primary reason is because they are out of a civilized environment.
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They're not in like a metropolitan city.
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They're not around technology all the time.
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They're in a completely native environment and they're eating, I don't know, maybe unprocessed
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foods, natural food.
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So they're more connected to nature somehow.
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And that somehow makes them more entuned to this psychic consciousness, the psionic stuff
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that he's talking about.
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They put them in this program, give them dopamine drugs and hook them up to all kinds of technology
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and use them to summon these eggs.
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This is what he said, summon the eggs.
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Well, not just the eggs, it's all different types of crap.
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But it's more than just summon.
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So let me be a little, let me unpack this a little more.
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Years ago, you heard about this weird looking drone that kind of looked like a UFO that
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the Iranians were able to break into its guidance system and land and then study the reverse
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So but if you look into that, maybe you can find it.
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I ran in Iranian drone that was caught.
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No hours that they intercepted and hijacked it basically by wire.
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And landed it at a base in Iran and then studied the reverse engineer.
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You gotta find this shit, dude.
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It was looked weird.
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It was a very unusual shape.
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And now imagine being able to do that with this instead of guide by wire, right?
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US drone recovered by Iran in 2011.
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I'm sure there are minimal.
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See what those strange looking ones.
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So sophisticated spy planes.
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US intelligence is spying in hand.
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Neville's basically on Iranian sites believe to be developing nuclear weapons and long
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Bob Ortels is an unmanned US drone did vanish over the weekend.
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The secret stealth drone, nicknamed the Beast of Kandahar, is one of America's most sophisticated
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For the past four years, the RQ-170 has flown high altitude surveillance missions over
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the battlefields in Afghanistan.
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So here's my point in this.
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Is that this is this sort of nonsense, happens all the time.
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My point of it is they were able to break into the encrypted hardened guidance system.
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Because these are all flown.
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A lot of them out of the Nellis from a or bases out in the desert underground.
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And they're unmanned, but they're on the other side of the world.
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So but they were able to break into that system.
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The command and control guidance and land it.
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They didn't crash out.
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They do that with this consciousness stuff.
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No, no, they didn't.
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I'm using this as an analogy if I can get through my sentence.
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So that's an analogy.
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Now imagine having an interstellar vehicle in a chikraft.
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And their technologies are consciousness thought interfacing.
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So you train these people to basically hack into their guidance system when no one's looking.
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And you hijack it instead of landing it, you bring it over to an area.
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Sometimes you can land the ET craft.
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But often what they do is they hit it with an electromagnetic pulse weapon.
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And it either is disabled and falls to the ground or it's blown it to pieces.
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Now what I was getting ready to tell you is that in these same areas, they'll put up a
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TFR, which is basically a temporary flight restriction area over an area of space, air
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If there is a civilian aircraft that's strazed into that and they're wanting and they're
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using these electromagnetic pulse weapons, they will blow the innocent civilian sessna
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And I know this for a fact.
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Sometimes the electromagnetic pulse goes outside the TFR and hits a totally air craft that
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was trying to stay out of the TFR.
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So now we have over a continental United States, a real threat to air traffic, which are
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always blaming it on the aliens.
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No, the real threat to air traffic are the man-made UFOs and these sort of operations
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that were because these are not always done over permanent flight restriction areas like
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a top secret air force base.
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They're done in these other places, right?
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So this is a real problem.
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I brought it up to officials in Washington.
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And what's astounding to me?
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I want to vent a little bit here.
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I've been blowing the whistle on this nonsense since 93.
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And you always wonder, I think we have something called the FBI or law enforcement.
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Now we can prove through our direct witnesses, kidnapping, murder, treason, killing innocent
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civilians like I just described, embezzlement of US federal dollars into black projects
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without oversight and oversight of the president or Congress.
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One and a half the federal penal code has been is being violated by this organization.
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And it's precisely where is the Congress in the White House and the FBI.
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So now that we have a new administration and a new Congress and this is all beginning
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to come out, I think that the public listening, either contact their senators and House member
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and the White House and say, look, we need to get this resolved, but you need to enforce
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the law and protect the American democracy, but also the American public.
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And that's not happening yet.
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And so that group goes unchecked while these terrible atrocities keep going.
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Now what I would like to see happen is that those operations get wound down peacefully
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because there's a, as I mentioned earlier, a glide path out to basically transform that
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into a mess into something that's forward looking.
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And I think all the whistleblowers, I know that's what they want to see, because an eye
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for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
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And if you go kinetic, if you go into a violent confrontation with an organization that have
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assets that are way beyond anything, as Adam or Wilson said, that they can deploy, it's
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not going to be good.
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Yeah, it's a suicide mission.
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What would it be like to go to war with one of these?
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And I'm advising a group that has been asked to do exactly that if it comes to it.
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And I don't want to talk about detail, operational details about it, but a US military group.
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I won't talk about what agency or what entity it is.
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But it's a SAP, it's TSSCI, top secret special commitment information.
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And I've been asked to provide everything I can.
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And I've been doing this for 30 some years.
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But now we have a critical mass of people who have details.
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I mean, you talked about some of the whistleblowers that are still behind the curtain.
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That could be brought in and who know of multiple places.
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There was one gentleman who was about to come forward and he got threatened.
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But he was read into 18 unacknowledged special access projects dealing with this.
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He had baseline clearance across 18 of them in a top secret Pentagon office.
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So we have people like that.
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They need to be protected.
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He's afraid of not only being killed, but his pension being erased because he signed an
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80 year non-disclosure agreement that said that if he ever discussed any of this, that
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he would lose his freedom, but also his pension.
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And he's getting up in years.
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He has some war injuries.
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And I can't, you know, what I never do is just shove someone like that out.
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I mean, I am a doctor.
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So if it's like a doctor patient confidentiality, but at a certain point, the people who can
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protect people like him have a legal obligation.
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I will say that given what is in here, the unredacted part, what people can get is the, has
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some redacted, like this guy's name's redacted.
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But there is a dereliction of duty here if they don't deal with this.
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And I think the American public, they need to hear, I've had so many members of Congress
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in the Senate say, we really need to hear from our constituents on this, right?
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Now people are so apathetic, they just think everything happens by itself.
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You got to create a movement.
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So I'm sort of an activist that way.
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You got to have people say, look, we want this resolved.
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We want this fixed, yes, but we also want to bring out the technologies that would save
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the biosphere and eliminate poverty.
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So imagine, I don't think the things that are flying at 200,000 miles per hour should
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come out right now that are man-made, because that's a missile delivery system.
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You don't want every terrorist in Mogadishu having that to boom, do something over downtown
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But the things that would sit on your table here and run this building from what's called
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a zero point or quantum vacuum energy, that needs to come out.
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And that would then give us a civilization without pollution and without poverty within,
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certainly your lifetime, maybe not mine, because I'm almost 70 in June, but it would be an
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amazing leap forward.
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And so I think my four daughters and 12 grandkids would actually have a planet to live on instead
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of it just being ruined by these 1800s technologies we're using.
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So that is the big piece of it.
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And let's call it the big piece of it in of this all coming out, Danny.
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Is that imagine a civilization without pollution and where your energy needs are met without
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cost once you have a, be like a heat pump or something smaller, provide all the energy
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for your car or your business or your house and with no bill, no electric bill.
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The problem with that, and this is what Patrick Bitt, David said, the other day to me, he said,
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no one wants that to come out because there goes trillions of dollars in assets, right?
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All the public utilities don't need them.
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All the oil, gas, coal, nuclear power don't need them, right?
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An electric plug-in car like a Tesla don't need it.
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So what you could use the electric motor part, but the 900 pounds of lithium ion,
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that the idea is like, don't need it, right?
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Yeah, conventional transportation and petroleum industries that prop up our economy are going
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to be all of a sudden irrelevant if we have some crazy zero-point anti-gravity technology.
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Well, again, the anti-gravity technology really can't come out right yet, but the other
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can, zero-point energy.
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Just zero-point energy.
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What do I call the station, basically a power plant, the generate energy.
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But you don't want something that's flying at that kind of maneuverability in the hands
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of unstable field states and whatnot.
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Now, I always point out to people, the worst people in the world have that technology
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now, because these are rogue shadow government operators that are doing all these terrible
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And I think they have more terrible things they're planning to do, which I don't want to
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But I think we ain't seeing nothing yet from that crowd.
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I wanted to ask you about Roswell, specifically because I've talked to Indy Jacobson about
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Roswell, and she wrote about it in her book.
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I'm sure you're familiar with what she said.
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There was an EG and G engineer that was a source for her, and he told her that it was a
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craft piloted by, remote control by the Soviet Union.
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And it had deformed children in there that were surgically altered by Mengele, or the Nazi
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And it was crashed here to basically so chaos, and she asked him, she's like, why the hell
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wouldn't you say this?
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This would make them look terrible.
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And it would be great for us if we were able to expose this.
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And there would be completely humiliated on the world stage.
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And he said, because we started doing the same exact thing that they were doing.
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Well, I'm not so sure of that, because we have interviewed people who are now deceased
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who handled the bodies.
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And they most certainly were not that.
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So now, have there been events like that?
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And we've confirmed that Russia and probably China have these same technologies, and have
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they done stagecraft and hoax things very likely.
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But see, a one source account, I note the EGNG folks.
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One of the G's is Greer.
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I'm not related, just on the record.
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But you know, again, a one source, no.
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But you know, and if you look at the people who were there at the retrieval site of the
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one that was not blown to smether rains, that was no man-made object.
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But you know, in 1947, the only thing we had that would have been a electro-gravitic
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were ones that were unstable.
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So what was called the disc that we brought over from Nazi Germany at the end of the
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war, that was not stable.
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And if you look at some of the old UFO home movies, and you see, it looks like they're
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like falling like a leaf like this.
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Those are early man-made ones that didn't have the gyro, let's say, or the stable.
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They had not mastered the gravity control.
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That was 54 late 1954.
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So those craft would be very not that stable, but they were man-made.
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But if you look on the inside of them, you know, like the, what's called the ARV, that
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And Mark McCannlechews passed away, illustrated for us, and got the sort of good concept of
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All the interior components, and this is late 50s or early 60s, were mercury-era components
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when you looked at it.
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Now it was electro-gravitic, it had gone out in the space before we land on the moon.
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But it wasn't interstellar.
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And certainly if it came to ground, it would be obvious it was man-made components, like
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So I point out to people, one of the big confusions here is that, and it makes it easy once you
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understand there's the man-made, and there's the non-human ET.
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But if you don't, and in here is a number of craft, or illustrated, and they're side-by-side
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where you see a man-made one versus an ET one.
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Well, I'd have to flow.
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We'd be flipping around.
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But was so as Roswell man-made or was it ET?
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That, the one that's the famous case, and I think there may have been some cover cases
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that are mixed up, the 1945 White Sands event, and that Roswell event were ET.
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There were, obviously, if you're out in that area, this is where you would be testing
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So if we already had, remember the B. Phil Brown effect from the 1920s to 40s, and then
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we get the Nazi disc that was brought over by the billionaire Paul Mellon and General Pat
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And it was a lot more advanced than anything we had in terms of gravity, stability.
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So you can imagine in the 40s into the early 50s, there had been a number of these that
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would malfunction, go down.
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They wouldn't want people to know that we're working on that technology, and they would
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be love for people to think it was alien or ET.
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So I think that, again, when you start getting into this sort of puzzle palace of information,
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you have to first have a sort of a guidebook.
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And I liken this to being a doctor and having what we call differential diagnosis.
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So someone comes in with chest pain.
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So a stupid doctor is going to say, oh, it's automatically a heart attack.
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When it could be dozens of things.
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It could be a dissecting, thoracic aneurysm.
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It could be pleuricy.
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It could be a pulmonary embolus.
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It could be a strained muscle.
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So I think what's happening with the UFO subculture, they try to make everything one thing.
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It's several things going on simultaneously, and being mixed up deliberately by very masterful
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counterintelligence and disinformation folks.
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And they're very good at it.
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I want to talk about the disinformation stuff and the Arizona stuff.
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I got to get leaked real quick.
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We'll pause real quick.
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We'll be right back.
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All right, we're back.
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Sorry, I can't let...
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I got to ask you that again.
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We were just talking about the quiet zone in West Virginia and how you do the CE5 protocols.
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And you said you let the ET's know that the Earth is armed.
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One of the protocols, if you get the app, it's CE5 contact app.
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In part of the training and when we're doing these sort of sigh, remote viewing contact,
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we let them know that they should only appear in any way that is safe and appropriate for
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that time-placing group and that the Earth has a lot of systems that can pick them up
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when they come out of...
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Let's call it trans-dimensional space time into 3D.
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Let's say you're an ET craft, you could be totally invisible to all sensors because you
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can shift, let's say, the resonant frequency of that whole craft.
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I can shift out of this dimension into a higher frequency.
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But then it can pop into 3D.
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Because why people see them materialized and dematerialized.
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And when they're in the non-3D form, so they're not solid.
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You're not going to be able to strike them and down them as easily.
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This is why we have so many weird phenomenon.
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You know, it's funny.
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The CIA has a term, WSFM, it stands for Weird Science and Frickin Magic.
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An engineer knew it in North or Gromans just calls it pure fucking magic, PFM.
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So when you start getting into either the high end of the electronics that are man-made
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or the interstellar extraterrestrial manifestations in phenomenon, you're dealing with them very
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strange stuff, right?
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And you would expect that.
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But it's not what people expect when they usually get introduced to this idea.
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So we make it very clear to these visitors that, you know, there are satellites that have
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what are called neutrino light detectors on them that started in the 70s.
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They can pick them up when they drop out of, let's call it trans-dimensional higher frequency.
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So there's a neutrino light scatter that happens.
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And there are Earth-based sensors.
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There are space-based and aircraft.
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And so they'll pick these objects up and then they'll then triangulate them and hit them
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with one of these electromagnetic or scalar weapons.
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So because we're doing this, it's very different from what was going on that Jake Barber talked
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We're not luring them over so we can hit them and kill them and reverse engineer their
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We're doing it as sort of a ambassadors, as it will, as civilian ambassadors from humans
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So for peaceful contact, we're not doing it to get rich quick and make another widget.
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So are there beings in sight?
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Inside these things?
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Oh, I mean, some are unmanned and some have the equivalent of an Android drone that's ET because
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they know how dangerous Earth is.
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My brain just thinks like, wouldn't these beings that are so advanced trans-dimensional
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ET's, don't they have better things to do than to interface with a couple people that
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are meditating in the middle of nowhere?
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They don't because if they're assigned to do something about the situation here, they need
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to point a contact, right?
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I mean, stop for a minute.
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The reason I started this whole project in 1990 was not the disclosure project.
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That was an accidental outgrowth of the main project.
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It started with CE5.
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It started with CE5 contact.
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And the reason for that was that I realized that it was either in complete denial or society,
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our media, or most people in the government, or we were targeting them and killing them.
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There was no one on the Earth setting up, let's call it a peaceful outreach that would be,
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let's just say, an ambassador level where you're just willing to be someone who does this
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out of good will to establish the beginnings of a relationship between humans and these
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other civilizations.
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And I realized no one was doing that.
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And so that's why I started this whole organization in 1990.
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It was not to do the disclosure project.
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I kind of got dragged kicking and screaming into that once I realized that, you know, like
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most people, they think that the president and the Congress are in control of all these
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covert programs and they know what's going on.
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When I realized that how dangerous this organization is that was had gone completely off the leash
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of any oversight, that's when I started doing the disclosure project.
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But that's not what I was mainly interested.
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But you have to warn these trans-dimensional ET's that they have to be careful for people
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beaming them out of the sky.
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Well, we just do it as just a reminder because we don't want to be responsible for the loss
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of life, whether it be human or ET.
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So, you know, I'm a doctor.
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So above all do no harm, right?
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I mean, you know, the saying that doctors supposed to live up to.
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So we don't want to set up a situation.
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And so it's not to say we think they're not monitoring this.
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It's just to remind them.
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And also don't be so willing to do something in this dimension because we're wanting this,
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Because humans are really wanting the ones that come on these events with me.
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They really want to make.
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There are a lot of people who are very pure-hearted about it.
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They're not all just jerks right out there.
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We have wonderful people, millions of people who have been doing CE5 now.
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I mean, William Schattener got it and then went up in that space thing and all these people.
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And so what we're wanting to do is show these civilizations there's another side of humanity
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that isn't a war-mongering bunch of jerks wanting to blow them out of the sky, right?
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But who is doing that?
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The State Department, the UN?
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So I liken this to back in the Cold War when there were physicians for social responsibility
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who were doctors going over to the old Soviet Union to try to create a rapprochement and a dialogue, right?
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This just takes this on cosmic level to where there should be humans reaching out to these civilizations
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for not some ulterior motive to get their goodies and get rich or turn them into a weapon system
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or blow them out of the sky.
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But because there's an opportunity coming up for humans to be part of a larger cosmic family
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or whatever you want to call it.
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So what kind of communication are you having when you're summoning these beings?
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We don't summon them.
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The King of England would summon a valet.
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What do you call that?
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I know Jake uses that term and it's appalling.
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You should never use that.
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You summon your Uber driver, right?
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I mean, this is disrespectful.
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Is this completely disrespectful?
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Yes, they do matter.
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Words are expressions verbally of the thought.
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And the thought is expression of the consciousness behind it.
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So we do not call or summon them.
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We invite them with a sense of the equality that exists between all intelligent life.
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In other words, even if they're very different from us, they may have much higher IQs, more
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advanced technologically.
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But at the level of what Irman's rodents are talked about, the singularity of mind,
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And that's a universal constant.
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On that level, there are wake, we're awake.
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And so the light of awareness from my eyes, yours, and an ETs, it's the same because they've
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Consciousness is, in fact, a singularity.
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That's not divisive.
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We divide it by our egos.
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But in reality, on a higher level of understanding, it's a singularity.
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So that is where we come together.
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Is why our motto is one universe, one people that within the universe hit that level of consciousness
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and mind, we're all one people.
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And so that's why I don't like the term alien, which means foreign, right?
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I like the term, you know, people.
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People say, what do you call it?
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They're non-human people.
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They're extraterrestrial people.
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Now the trick here, and this is where it gets very complicated for some people, is that
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a lot of people will do something like that.
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And they'll bump into something from another dimension, right?
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Like an angel or a demon or whatever.
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But that's not extraterrestrial.
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So this is where you get into this, you know, Tucker Carlson.
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He got gas lit by a lot of these intel folks who told them that the aliens are demons.
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Well, the reason he was gas lit was because they were praying on his valid, you know, Christian
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I'm not questioning that at all.
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But this sort of cosmology that is known within many traditional circles, they wanted
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to conflate that with alien.
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And it's easy to do because that is another special operations capability.
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And that is to use very powerful electromagnetic systems to create phenomenon, like you see
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at Skinwalker or Bradshaw Ranch.
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We know how they're doing it.
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I know who's doing it.
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I know what the electronics are.
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Now there's an innate phenomenon that was there.
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But then those both sides were taken over by covert human black operations.
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So this alien and demons narrative that it seems to be everywhere.
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Where is that coming from and what is the purpose behind it?
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What is the motive of it?
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It is literally to demonize non-human existence so we can have war.
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See everything tracks to the fear factor.
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Everything tracks back to how do you, you're sorry, how do you create an enemy?
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So if you're wanting to aggrandize the military industrial super complex on a international
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level, the card that has to be eventually played, which is what Werner von Braun warned
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about, will be this alien threat card.
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And so you can do it in a lot of way if you're talking to someone who's religious related
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If you're talking to someone who's conventional geopolitical, they're a national security
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threat or a safety threat.
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If you want to relate it, whatever it is, so they have scripts and narratives to sort
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And what they do is they do an analysis of your own psychology and belief system and target
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So it was interesting.
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I was at the Vatican.
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There's a flavor of sigh up for everyone.
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It's tailored for that.
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You're at the Vatican.
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And I was at the Vatican some years ago when Pope John Paul was the Pope.
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I met with him on senior Balduchi.
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You may have heard of him.
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He was a senior theologian to the Pope and very interested in this issue of the ETs and
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And ironically, he was also a demonologist at the Vatican.
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He was an actressess in here.
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I mean, it was interesting.
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And of course, you know, not my cup of tea, I mean, whatever if I were to fire your
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But I was at his department, so we're looking, you know, St. Peter's.
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And he's turned to me.
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He says, you know, neither demons nor angels require flying saucers.
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And it was such a quaint, succinct way of putting it.
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And I go, yeah, of course.
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So he was talking about all this disinformation and fear mongering because that's how you control
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You have a, you have to create fear and a narrative.
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And then you get people to buy into it.
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One, have you seen the shit Chris Bletsow does with the, with the orbs?
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I'm not that familiar with it.
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I know he's an orbs.
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He summons the orbs.
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The summons of bad word.
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He invites the orbs.
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Yes, but he's also been intercepted by Jim Simmy van.
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He's a CIA operative.
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This is another thing.
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There's so many layers to this.
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I know that he has been the crazy thing about this guy.
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I had him on the podcast over a year ago.
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And he is somehow able to invite these orbs, which I've personally witnessed with him
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on the beach a mile away from here.
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We'll have the video.
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He, it's, it's real.
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But at the same time, there's CIA in a row, NASA people coming and visiting him and
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befriending him and going to his kids baseball game or football games.
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And literally it is almost exactly like the Paul Benoit story.
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And, and here's the problem.
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Anything that is of an extraterrestrial phenomenon can be simulated by these covert humans.
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And so they're all of it.
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The orbs, the craft, all men are a phenomenon.
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So people are grossly underestimating covert human capabilities.
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Which is why we go out and when we're doing CE5 contact with a high index of suspicion
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and skepticism, it's like, is that ET or is that stage craft?
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Because I know in great detail what those capabilities are.
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So when and so someone who hasn't studied that and I have the advantage of having to
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brief nearly a thousand of these whistleblowers and then in corporation.
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But I think this is why I'm trying to share this with the public as succinctly as I can,
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even though it's a complicated, what my marine buddies call a clusterfuck of stuff.
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But it's something that really needs to be unpacked and understood so that people aren't
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So the, so any event that happens always go well, you have to have it in your differential
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diagnosis or in your comparison.
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Something from another dimension that's not extraterrestrial or a manmade or a little more
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complicated subset, manmade, extradimensional where you could set up a stimulation by a manmade
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electronic system that this, let's say tickles some other dimension and brings something into
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this dimension. Humans can do that. Human covert physicists that I've worked with have done that.
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So how do you explain this guy being able to bring these light balls around him and bring them
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around it? And like I always sat in the beach with him and his daughter for like two hours.
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I mean, Steve saw this thing that was not a plane.
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Out of the, it came out of the horizon.
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Went that way, back that way and then just fizzled out into nowhere.
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Right. And he posted, he posted these all over his Instagram all the time.
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See, I haven't been with him to be able to discern.
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You know, it's like the old commercials.
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It railers at Memorax, but some of them are memory.
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So you know, is it, is it endogenous ET?
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In other words, original ET or is it originating from somebody piggybacking on him?
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And so I don't know the gentleman.
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I'm just saying, have you, I like, have you heard him being similar to that?
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We've had very, in fact, I was up on our land in Virginia near Hotsprings,
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Virginia, I believe it was October and or November.
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And we were up at about 3,000 feet.
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And I was there, we had a buddy and we made a campfire and I was doing a little
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meditation and there were exactly what you described, about 15 or 20 of them
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that emerged and came over and below the crest in about a 40 minute period or 30,
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40 minute period, there were more than a dozen.
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And I'm like, okay, I'm going, oh my god, they just kept going.
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But so we have very similar phenomenon happen.
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But I also know that you can stage craft that if you're a special operations group with
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And this is not to try to discourage people from doing CE5 contact.
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I'm just saying there has to be a higher level of education and understanding.
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And we're actually doing a cruise in the Caribbean, April 6 to the 12th, where
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it's, there's 200 people be up on this big deck out in the middle of the ocean for a number of nights.
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But we're going to webinar it if people want to tune in and we're going to do this whole CE5
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I've always wanted to do it in the middle of the ocean.
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Oh, we're going all over.
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It's it's some big cruise liner that we're really serving.
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Oh, it's a legit cruise ship.
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Yeah, it's like 3,100 people.
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But we have 200 and we're going to have the upper deck.
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Cordendolph will be doing this late at night.
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We'll see what happens.
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So, so I saw so many questions that are still on this topic.
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Number one, why do you think so many spooks are so interested in him?
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And trying to push this idea, encourage him.
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I honestly don't know.
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I mean, I'm not an expert in that case.
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I don't know the man or his family.
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Well, just let's hypothetically, let's let's say it's somebody else.
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Somebody else who has some crazy ability, right?
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Why would those specific people be so interested in a person like that?
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Well, because it's the same reason why the psionic operation teams are interested in people
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who have the innate capability.
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And they want to see what they're doing, how they're doing it.
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They may want to intercept what they're doing and confuse the picture by staging
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some hoaxed events with real ones.
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It's not like either or you have to think about how these guys would think.
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And what that motivation ultimately is, I have no idea.
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I just know there's some very bad actors that swirling around the gentleman.
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I'm going to write the name down on this iPad.
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I'm going to show it to you because I don't want to say this guy's name on the podcast
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because it'll get this podcast shadow band.
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And I want to see if you know who he is.
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Steve, blur it out or don't show it.
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No, you don't know that name?
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Anyway, I get shadow banned all the time.
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Although, you know, it's funny.
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I was on a conference called a bunch of tech people.
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It was like, oh, that's a myth.
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Nobody gets shadow man.
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I said, oh, it's ridiculous.
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It happens to the UFO topic, which is very odd.
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Oh, no, it's not at all.
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I mean, if you think about,
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go back to that 1950 documents, the biggest secret in the history of the United States,
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exceeding the secrecy of the development, the hydrogen bomb.
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So, you know, the idea that the high end of the intelligence community,
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trying to keep the secret, wouldn't sanitize information or
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and the other night of a day about most people now,
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is that those interests are not only penetrating the tech companies.
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In many cases, they control those tech companies.
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Think of the corporate nexus.
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Think about BlackRock.
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Think about, well, all right, Google, I don't want to go too far in this.
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Google was literally funded and incubated by the CIA, the NSA, and DARPA.
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And so it's Microsoft.
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Completely that shit nuts.
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When you think of, when you go and you realize that Surrey had CIA
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NSA people visiting him like monthly.
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And technology came straight from DARPA.
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Like, it's like, it sounds like such a crazy conspiracy.
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No, it makes total sense though.
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It makes total sense because if you can have keystroke by keystroke surveillance of everyone.
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That's what they wanted.
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That's what they wanted with Microsoft.
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That's what they wanted with the big tech companies.
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And ironically, the technology for doing that,
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from all accounts, much of it was reverse engineered from ET materials.
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But they didn't let out the energy systems that would eliminate poverty and human suffering
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and save the biosphere.
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They let the things out.
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That would enable them to have the Uber surveillance state we have today,
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mostly through the private sector.
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And if people said the government were doing these things,
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but instead you click on an I agree on all your tech platforms and you're giving
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the corporate titans who are interfacing with the intelligence community.
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Cartblocked everything you're doing.
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Yeah, it's, you know, it's to anyone who really analyzes this.
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And that's another question about, you know, our freedoms and privacy and much of the
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constitutional protections.
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And I keep coming back to that because whether it's here or anywhere else in the world,
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if we don't have the rule of law, then we're in the jungle.
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And on this issue that then has sort of infiltrated many other sectors of our society,
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we don't have freedom in the rule of law.
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I always tell people they brag about us having a free market economy.
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I go really when the most important breakthrough is the last 100 years in science and technology
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that would completely turn this planet into a paradise of free energy and all kinds of technologies
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have been ruthlessly suppressed up to and including killing people.
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No, we don't have a free market.
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We have a managed economy.
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But so what the public needs to understand is we need to evolve out of that 100 years of nonsense
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and to this whole transformative new golden age.
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I mean, the new president's calling it that we're not going to do just a golden age based
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purely on really more oil out of the ground.
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You've got to create a golden age by letting our society advance both
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technologically but also in our understanding of consciousness and spirituality and that we're
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not alone in the universe and do it in a way that doesn't cause everyone to go running for the
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door and jump and all bridges because we're being invaded by aliens.
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I would love to see Trump do one of your CE5.
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Oh, that'd be great.
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I want to see him meditate and kind of communicate with these beings.
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I think look, I'm completely nonpartisan because I have to be able to work through many
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administrations and members of Congress.
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Luckily on this issue in the Congress, it's very nonpartisan.
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Currently, the people who are interested in this.
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Which is interesting.
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Yeah, and it should be that way because it's not just the United States.
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I'm dealing with countries all over the world and leaders all over the world.
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Frankly, I won't say which ones, but it needs to be a global understanding that transcends
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the usual idiotic fracture lines of murderous monkeys fighting over every little division we
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I think we have to go beyond that in our thinking.
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And on something like this, it can't just be a partisan or even just an American issue.
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It really needs to be a global issue.
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And that's never happened.
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There have been attempts.
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The original disclosure project event was supposed to happen at the UN General Assembly
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And the UN Secretary General was threatened with him.
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He was absolutely free.
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Since if you do this, there will be no more funding for the United Nations.
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So we had to do it at the National Press Club.
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And his right-hand guy called me up says, Dr. Greer, we cannot do it here at the UN.
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So, whoa, that was 24 years ago in May.
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So, we got off track again.
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We were talking about CE5.
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And I wanted to, I was asking you, when you're inviting these
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extraterrestrials into the space and your meditation and your interfacing with them,
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what is the communication?
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Almost any weird thing you can imagine has happened.
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We've had fully materialized craft appear and disappear.
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We've had like that one ET that appeared between two people.
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We've had unusual electromagnetic signals come through our electronic sensor systems.
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So like we'll have magnetometers and other equipment out there.
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And they will override the circuitry and start communicating through them.
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And some of it's very repeatable sequences that we've recorded.
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Almost like Erisiba without the billion dollar telescopes.
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You know, it's just repeatable how like you can see with a pattern that repeats,
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That you know, would not naturally occur or would not happen from a man-made source.
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And of course many people have, it will be deep in meditation and get an override vision.
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Of a craft or a person and say, oh, I'm sensing something in the northwest sky at 60 degrees.
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Five minutes later, craft appears there and moves and comes over.
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So there's a lot of precognitive capabilities that develop when you develop the consciousness.
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Any like direct telepathic communication?
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What is the context of it?
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But it's, for many people who, I don't know, is my experience.
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Is that they're making it quite clear they're here for a very good reason.
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But there are a lot of it is also laden with some warning of where we are.
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And that our civilization is at a point where it needs to either, you know,
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change directions or it's going to face some really terrible outcomes.
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And it's not a threat.
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It's just like this is where you are.
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And it's sort of like the Hopi prophecy where one line terminates and the other one goes on forever.
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If you know the Hopi prophecy, Native American.
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Right. It's sort of like that.
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That is a theme that comes up a lot.
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And I think we are at that point where we're going to have to transition.
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If we continue to think in the same paradigm of division and war and conflict,
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you know, it's not like we're using machine guns and tanks.
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We have not only thermonuclear, but these other technologies that are covert.
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It's not sustainable to live like this.
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And nor is it sustainable for the Earth's biosphere to have 8 billion people living like we did in
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1800s, burning stuff.
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So there's a very frequently a sort of earth-based environmental message that comes through
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about the dangers not only geopolitically of endless war with these technologies,
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but also what we're doing to the oceans and the atmosphere and genetic mutations and cancer rates.
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That all of this is a consequence of having suppressed for 100 years breakthroughs in technology
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that would have moved us onto another path.
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So that's what we call the documentary the law century.
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Because there's a law century of social and technological evolution,
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but also with that sort of spiritual evolution.
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Because what happens when a world no longer is in want and fighting over scarce resources.
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I think the work week will drop to 10 or 15 hours a week.
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People have extraordinary amount of time for creative pursuits and the pursuit of higher
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states of consciousness and meditative and what have you.
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Hopefully not everyone's spending all their time on YouTube looking at kitty cats playing the piano.
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But that might happen too.
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But I think there's two main drivers.
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There's fear of death and I think there's sex.
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I think those are the two main drivers of our civilization and the way we're going right now.
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There's a famous, a great quote from this show Westworld where he's saying
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the human intellect is like peacock feathers.
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The human psyche is like peacock feathers.
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It's an elaborate mating call.
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Everything from the Mona Lisa to the Eiffel Tower to the Brooklyn Bridge,
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the statue of David.
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All it is is an elaborate mating call.
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Some of the best creations and pieces of artwork in human history.
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And that's sort of what drives our innovation and our part of it.
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Our drive to make more money to get better things, to drive a nicer car, to have a bigger house.
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And it seems like if we didn't have that, if we were genderless and we didn't
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have, if we didn't fuck each other to reproduce, then maybe that wouldn't be,
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maybe we would be on a different trajectory.
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Well, I don't think you see the ori there.
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I mean, I think you can have a body and a planet that's physical and also pursue higher states
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of consciousness and spirituality.
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I don't think the seticism is the way.
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I don't think you deny the one, but you add to that a higher conscious understanding
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I think that is the balance.
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There's sort of like these inherent tensions and contradictions that exist in the modern era
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and has for many, many times.
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But one of the features you mentioned earlier of the P3 or psionic operators
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when you mentioned that some of these areas that we would call primitive,
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but they're living more in touch with nature, have this innate ability.
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It harkens back to the aboriginals in Australia that had what was called dream time.
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And they would literally have lucid dreams at night, communicate with each other,
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and have meetups with no telephones or smoke signals or anything.
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And so in many civilizations that we would dismiss as primitive,
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that was just part of the natural order.
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Western civilization coming into science and through the scientific revolution
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and also rejecting the superstitions and excesses of the Middle Ages and whatnot,
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sort of through the baby out with the bathwater.
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So I see a time where we'll go forward as a high tech civilization,
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but at the same time an increasingly conscious and enlightened civilization both.
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And I think that's the sort of balance where you become a very advanced civilization
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because primacy is with your conscious evolution.
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You know, the world is as you are as it says in the Vedas.
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The world we see as a reflection of what our level of consciousness and thoughts are.
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And so I think that can evolve.
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There's no reason why we have to be stuck in the current state of things.
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Now change is difficult.
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Most people don't like change or adventures.
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I love adventures and change, but it's something that
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if we stay, you know, there's like the old Chinese saying,
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unless we change directions, we're likely to end up where we're going.
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And I say, look, where are we going?
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You know, going the hell in a hand basket right now.
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Not just you politically, but in terms of tensions and wars.
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But also with the earth and the environment and poverty,
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do you know the economists last couple of years ago had an article,
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three billion people on earth don't even have energy to cook their food.
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So they're cutting out the brush and making deserts appear and cutting down the rainforest.
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Three billion of the eight billion.
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So there's no way to have a peaceful world or a just world with the zero-sum game of the
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current energy system. This becomes very clear.
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But as Patrick, David told me the other day, if you bring these out, there are so many
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powerful interest. You're talking about hundreds of trillion dollars and aggregate impact.
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So, and that was the mistake of a hundred years ago.
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If these technologies had been brought out when there were only two and a half billion people
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on the earth and very few of those people had electricity and cars, it would have been a
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natural evolution. Now, we're either headed towards a very bad situation globally, geopolitically
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and environmentally, geophysically, or we have to bring these out, which will be admittedly
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very disruptive. You know, talk about a disruptive technology.
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So, how do we do that? It was going to have to be very smart and very managed.
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And so these are the complexities that, to be honest with you, world leaders and the
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president and the National Security Council need to be discussing urgently.
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What I'm concerned about is that it seems that in the next year or two, this is all going to get
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disclosed. And when I meet with senior government officials, which I do quite often,
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they don't know anything about the subject or what they do know has been some blended false
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information that has led them, gas let them in the wrong path. And this frightens me.
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I mean, because knowledge is power. And if you don't have it, you're going to be manipulated
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into all the wrong decisions. And I think we need to have our leaders here in abroad,
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brought up the speed on this in a serious way, which is, I mean, what I should be doing.
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And I'm trying to do what I really ought to do is retire. But I'm tired.
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And I'm getting old big. Go relax. I'll be 600 acres.
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All we do. I take time for that. I work out a lot. And I was almost killed in an accident
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about 15 months ago. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. What happened? I'll talk about it. It was miss.
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Someone saw through the seat on my bicycle mountain bike and it snapped off.
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And my left leg came off. My left foot came off the bones were in the air. This shoulder was
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ripped off. My abdomen split open. I had four circuits. Oh, yeah. I even believe the things
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I've had happened to him. It was bad. It was the worst I've had. And you know, in the 90s,
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I had three people. My team killed a two by electronically induced cancers and the former C.I.
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director Bill Colby, who was going to help us bring these energy technologies out. They just
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wet worked him in the river south of DC. Made it look like an accident. So, you know, this is
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serious stuff. They literally tried to stay try to kill you on your bike. Oh, I think it was more
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of a speed bump. So let me down. It was three weeks after I got back from the black site in the
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chopper where I filmed the underground opening. Yeah. Where some of the Lockheed objects come up
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from a underground facility and are tested. And I handed that over to the Senate and tell
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us to be so paranoid. No, I'm not. Not at all. No. If you've all these people that you've worked
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with have been whacked. No, no, no, no. Your paranoid implies that you'd be afraid of all this.
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But I think the saving grace, even though I was raised an agnostic atheist of having had that
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near death experience while the 17. Not afraid of death. I'm not afraid of that because
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oh, no, I don't like being tortured. I don't want to be injured. I don't want to have a life of
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misery, which is what they've made my life in miserable thing. But, you know, no, I mean, being
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without this, you know, physical body and being in the worlds of the conscious light that I've
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experienced. No, that's a beautiful thing. I don't have a death wish, but I'm also not afraid.
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I mean, it's sort of like the old Shambhala warriors of old. They were very strict warriors.
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Why haven't they? I mean, I would imagine like all the stuff that you're doing and you've
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been doing this for so freaking long. Yeah. I can't believe they haven't tried to take you out yet.
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Well, I mean, other than the bicycle incident. Oh, I've had other thing. I had met aesthetic
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Malignant melanoma at the same month that I remember a congress in my right hand assistant got
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cancer as I once died. That was in 96, 7, something like that. But, um, yeah, I think Colby was killed.
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95 96. They'll call me the CI director. But how was he killed? Well, he allegedly was out canoeing
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on every story. Yeah, I've read this a lot. But his son thought he could commit suicide. But
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he was working with a colonel and with a member of my team hand over one of these zero point
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quantum generators with about 50 million dollars in seed money so we could get it out open
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source and get it out to the public. And the week he was going to meet with a member of my
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board, they found him floating on the Potomac. But it's an unsolved murder. But we know what happened.
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His best friend came to my friends funeral. Sherry's funeral and said we both have had terrible
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losses, but can't look back. Going back to the angels and demons stuff, have you heard of the
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Virginian Brazil incident? Yes, I have. That thing smelled like sulfur. And in the Bible, it talks
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about demons smelling like sulfur. But here's the other problem. I don't, I'm on expert on that case.
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The question is, was it ET? Was it human induced? Was it or was it from another dimension?
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And have you seen anything like that? You know all about the alien species, right? You know
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all about the catalog. The guy said there's 69 different ones. Oh, yeah, there's an R team has
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had experiences with a huge variety. And you've never seen anything like that one with the red eyes,
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the Virginian. No. And one of the questions I always have is given what I know about what human
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electrode magnetic field experimentation has done. There's a physicist I'm working with. He's
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down near the Redstone Arsenal Huntsville Space Flight Center, Marshall Space Flight Center. He has
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his own skiff. I've been in and his lower level of his house is also a skiff, a secure compartment
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information facility. And I mean, these guys have created like, terroidal electromagnetic systems
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where they will tap into the ninth ring of hell or whatever. And some creature will be 3D running
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around the lab. What? And it sounds absolutely batchic crazy. And it is, but it's true. So whatever
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you can imagine, you know, Ben Rich, the week he died was talking to a friend of mine, Jim Godall,
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who's a well known aerospace historian and said, and Jim was pushing on this issue about, well,
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Lockheed's Concord said he says, he said, well, anything you can imagine,
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that you've seen on Star Trek, we've already done it, the Lockheed's Concord, and it's not
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at Area 51. It's out in the desert underground. And that is true. And I've been over that facility.
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I mean, not long ago, right before I was critically injured. But so there are people who have
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surfaced describing some of those. What does that mean? It means that the capabilities over
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these covert human group could stage anything. And this is why people said, well, you're the biggest
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skeptic I ever heard. You don't believe it. I said, well, you know, I'm not saying there aren't
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genuine extraterrestrial, non-human intelligence, but there's all this other stuff. And all this
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other stuff is really complicated. And it makes sense once you unpack 70 or 80 years of super advanced
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engineering and science and technology from studying this area of physics.
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And one of the big mistakes everyone makes is they don't give enough credit to the genius of
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the people who worked on this program. Like this gentleman I just referred to, he's been
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redacted in what we're making available to the public, but he's not redacted for some other folks.
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Highest IQ, one of the highest IQs of anyone ever met on Earth. And what I have found is that
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people have very high capabilities. They're tapped either right out of college or in high school
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even and brought in because they have such amazing aptitude. And there is a process for screening for
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that. And it's a real process. And they're looking for people with extraordinary talents and IQs
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and abilities. So I always tell people, the smartest people I've ever met are not at Harvard,
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MIT, a Caltech or whatever. They're in covert operations and corporate and some government.
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And those guys are amazingly brilliant. And they're highly incentivized to study this and figure out
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different applications. And I think people grossly underestimate that. And because they underestimate
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it, they're constantly being deceived and tricked by human phenomenon, human events. And we're
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in a very weird stuff and thinking it's something that isn't. And that's what happened with
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the skin walker ran. So there was an innate phenomenon there. I don't think it was extra stress. I think
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it was inter-extradimensional. And a bunch of guys operating with Robert Bigelow and the intelligence
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community set up some electronics that ran the rancher off. So they forcibly bought it virtually.
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And then they set up all these weird electromagnetic phenomena there. And I know how they did it.
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And I have someone who was embedded in that team who's described it. Same thing with the Bradshaw
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ranch near Sedona. You know, recently there was someone who works with Elezonor on a podcast.
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I'm about, yeah, that's an alien, but I've had my people scout it out there. Guys all dressed in
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black down below a hill. And it's a complete black site. I don't know if it's CIA or corporate. But
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you know, so this happens all the time. If you have an area that has an innate, someone say a portal,
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but an innate phenomenon going on, those will get taken over and turned into a black site that's
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human. And then the public gets gas lit and deceived about all the phenomenon there. So
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so it's more trickery. You're saying that they will deliberately use their tricks to make it seem
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like there's some crazy fuckery going on there. And it's some sort of interdimensional
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portals with witches and all this stuff. And then that will force the ranchers to get rid of it
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to flee and they can buy it terrifying. And they can keep doing that stuff. They ran off the people
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in the Bradshaw ranch. Same thing with Skam Walker. Now that it's a new owner, I don't know him,
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but I knew the people who got it after the rancher was terrified and run off. And they can do things
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through normal electric wires, you know, power lines that they can put a signal down and all of a sudden
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some creepy thing happens and apparition appear and disappear. So you know, this is the high end of
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what we call the stage craft or trade craft. Stage craft. Yeah, staging things. And
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one of the problems with ufology and with this whole subject is that you really can't begin to
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even make a judgment call on what you're looking at. Unless you unpack what human capabilities are.
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And then you can begin to put it into the categories and get some discernment. But it's a very
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difficult thing to do. And you know, in 1991, I was at a conference in a CIA guy, old guy. He
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looked like the cigarette man in the show X files because they know a lot of some of those episodes.
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They took from my early work. And we were walking along and he said, let's walk along the beach.
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And he said, look, the truth is so much stranger than any fiction. We can sell the fiction and people
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will believe it. But if you tell people the truth, they won't believe it. And it's less believable
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than the fiction. And it is. So that's been a role of conundrum. Fiction has to make sense.
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The truth doesn't. Yeah, exactly. And the truth on this is such a tangled web. And it's been
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done deliberately because it has the ability to then confuse the picture. But also create the
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specter of fear. Where the long term goals can be fulfilled. My concern is that disclosure,
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I wrote a paper in 1999 called this on our website when disclosure serves secrecy, meaning
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the secret government operations. And if this issue gets disclosed the way it currently is
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on track to be, it'll be a war of the world's panic in the aisle. It'll be a thousand times worse
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than COVID. The way it's on track to be disclosed. Yes. Where you have the people who have
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keep going up to Congress and the White House and other places and conflating man-made frightening
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things like abductions and villages being blown up with extraterrestrial threat or NHI threat.
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And they're deliberately commingling. No one is making this discernment between a bunch of
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siops and covert technologies, masquerading as ET. There's no one is doing that. In fact, the dominant
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paradigm is to call all of it one thing. And in that calling it one thing, it makes people conclude
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there is a threat and we need to fight it. So let's go to Defcon 1. Let's go to Independence Day,
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the movie. Let's go to War of the Worlds. So I think this manipulation is 99% of what people
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hear. And I don't really, honestly, right now, if you were to put me under sodium pentatosteorem,
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I don't know. Do you? Oh, good. Go for it. Steve. I love the doors. All right. I really don't see
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that right now as things stand as of this moment, that there is a critical mass of people
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who are able to come forward and not be captured, let's call it, by that narrative, you know, trapped
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by that narrative. Now it's even more spooky when you start dealing with senior people in government
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who have not been read into this, who are brand new to this. And we'll go in with information.
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And then right after us, we'll be a disinformation team that goes in. Yeah. Like clockwork. So
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and I'm a private civilian and those people going with credentials from the Pentagon, right?
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or some intelligence agency. So, you know, it's a thawntine. But I'm not, I don't think we should give up
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on getting the truth out and exposing the lies and the cover up, but also the trickery.
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But I don't see right now there's a lot of bandwidth, let's just say. So you're alluding
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to earlier when you're mentioning Elizondo, he is behind this whole threat narrative.
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It's mixed. I mean, he's actually evolving a little bit off of that because he needs to.
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And that's been exposed. But I think one of the the reason you initially emerged was to be sure that
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two or three major false narratives came out. One was we don't have anything that's manmade
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that could be this when 80% of what people have seen are manmade covert. Okay. That was one
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message. The other was that it's a threat to the national security, which it is, but not from
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out there in space. It's the threat is within. I mean, right? But he was the road organization.
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The rogue secret government organization is the threat. It's treason as it's traitorous,
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it's murderous, it's unconstitutional, it's criminal. So that narrative is to say what I just
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describe when disclosure serves secrecy. Yes, this is real. It's all coming out. The UFOs are real,
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which everybody's known forever. But they're a threat. And we don't have anything that can fly like
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that. Now, luckily in the last two or three years, does Elizondo say that that we don't have
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anything like this? Yes, he did initially not anymore, not anymore. And neither neither is
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Russian, neither is Fraver and others. But that was something that I was forcefully in the public
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saying that is a falsehood. And I would go to senators and congressmen say, no, that is wrong.
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And that is a lie and a damnable lie. Because if you believe that, then a priori, you have to think
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that all the horrible things that have happened have also been at the hands of the ETs.
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When they've been at the hands of a CIS special operations team, right?
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The SOS special operations. So I think that that was the thing that concern me the most. Now,
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I'm hoping, you know, I mean, I don't have any grievance against any individual, honestly.
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I mean, mostly I don't know them. I'm more concerned about the human future and human consciousness
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being polluted with a false narrative that leads us into this dystopian future of endless war and
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expanded war into space and all this stuff. Because that's how you get to Armageddon. That's how
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you get to a catastrophic conclusion. So that's my big concern. And I think this is why I don't
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care who you are. I'm going to speak the truth about it. There's an old saying, I speak the truth
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where it gives you counsel or offense. Those are the ER docking me. If you've got a brain to
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him, I'm not going to have a migraine. So that's just me. And it makes me very controversial and
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very unlikeable, which I don't care. I'm not running for mayor of crazy town, you effology.
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So I couldn't care about that. I care about what the truth is. But also how the truth is
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articulated that doesn't result in some just furtherance of the agenda of the secret group.
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Because what would be, I mean, this is their dream is to let this come out and pivot the whole
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world onto a path of needing big brother to run endless war and offensive and defensive operations
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against NHI. That's been the plan. And right now, I will say that the weight of the thrust of how
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this has been brought forward, if you'll get media reports, social media, that is the thrust of
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what's happening. We're trying to bend the curve towards something truthful, but also a positive
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outcome for humanity and for the United States. Because the United States is to crown jewel
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in these covert secret programs. And many of our big corporations are tied into these in a
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compartmental special projects divisions and a lot of them. So I think we have to figure out how
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to do this. But this needs to come out where it's, and I basically in here, you're going to laugh.
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It's a draft speech for the president or other world leaders to give that I've written.
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What I laugh about that. Because people go really, it's kind of, I said, but it has to be,
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this coming out, you cannot speak about this with, well, let's just blow them out of the sky,
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you know, right? That kind of thing. So, you know, this is dangerous. The kind of talk that attends
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the disclosure discussions leads to a catastrophic outcome for the earth and humanity.
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And there's one other rist that's a little bit more ominous. And that is, there are three different
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people I'm working with that don't know each other that have been in comm centers, communication
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were somehow they have intercepted communications from NHI.
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Right. The restrials. Yeah. That they're getting quite fed up with the fact that we are
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taking their technologies and using it against them and that that has reached a point where we are
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a threat, not just to ourselves, but to out there. So people are grossly underestimating
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how those covert programs are threatening earth because not that these civilizations are hostile.
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But they certainly are not going to let a row group of psychopaths threaten other worlds. So,
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if we don't get this under control, it'll have to be brought under control. But the worst case
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scenario is why don't the aliens just fix this? I said that would be the worst case scenario because
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if that happens, it'll be portrayed as an alien invasion. Wouldn't those, wouldn't the aliens
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are too smart for that? Yeah, the aliens are smart. They're way smarter than us. They have to be
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so 400 north of 400. So why wouldn't they just quietly go after those people and just shut them
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down? There would be no way to do that without it also being portrayed by their lackeys in government
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and the media is an alien invasion. So I'm saying quietly do it. So no way to quietly do this,
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my friend. I mean, if you start looking at the map in here and the list of corporations,
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sites, facilities, the trillions of dollars involved with this, that ain't going to happen
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where it wouldn't be noticed. Now, humans can get our, here's what I think. It is one of the
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messages is that we need to fix our own mess here. And there's no reason we can't. I think it's
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sort of a weird cosmic codependency to think that someone from out there and he's going to land
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here and fix our problems. I mean, how well did that work in Afghanistan, right? We're going to go
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in and nation build and they're right back to warlords and nonsense. It's got to come from the people,
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right? Now, I don't necessarily say the leaders, the people. The people will lead, the leaders
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will have to follow. But we become very passive people. And I think we have to not be so passive.
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I think the people need to speak up, stand up, articulate, and hopefully exhort our leaders to do
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the right thing. You know, I grew up in the, I was born in 1955, so I remember I grew up in the
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South report. And you know, my, my grandmother's Cherokee, my father's half native, they were
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called half breeds. And I have a twin sister who looks very native. And, but you know, that
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time there was Jim Crow in the South, there was still a segregated water fountains, all that.
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And, and I remember how weird that was. I mean, I was 456 and I'd go to a water fount where there
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was no line and a little lady would grab me and say, don't drink out of that one. That's for, I think
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they said colored people or something like that. Yeah. And I went, because I was in, my parents were
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not all racist. I went, well, is the water different? Is it, it was like this magical system,
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this racist system. And I saw that evolve, and I had an African American girlfriend in high
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school. I was like, I run over by a bunch of racists who did not like that. And, you know, but
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that all changed, not because the president and Congress changed it. It happened because of
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beard rusting and Martin Luther King, and there was a movement that made that happen, right?
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So I think people forget that big changes in society rarely come from the top down. It comes from
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the people up. Sure. And this is not, that lesson is awesome as people today because most people
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just sit around looking at their phones and don't do anything. But I remember that era, and I
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remember how different, I mean, things aren't perfect now with race relations. But boy, it's a big
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difference from the 50s to 60s when I was a kid. And imagine having an African American girlfriend
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in North Carolina in 72 or three, you know. So I think that, you know, progress can happen,
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but it's a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice and people have to stand up and be heard. And
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that's part of what the whole disclosure movement has been about that, that I, when I started,
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being able to realize that we started the whole disclosure movement in the 90s. It's now the,
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even the word disclosure is used by the New York Times. But that was, we started that in the mid-late
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90s. Yeah. Right. Now, obviously, I think you've said it before, but you believe that people,
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organizations, whether, I don't know if you're talking about the government, every talking about
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these rogue groups, have possession or captive alien bodies, you know, they have living ones as well.
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They have living ones. And who is this? Is this the government or is this this rogue organization?
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That's a rogue government. It's the secret government. And those are in places that need to be,
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let's call liberated. Do you know where they are? I'm not precisely. I have a very good idea.
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So one of the things we have mapped are the underground entry points and then we're in the
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connectivity. Say, you have the Edwards complex. And then you have East of there, what's called
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the Ant Hill? And those are entry points into underground sub-training facilities or bases.
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But they connect underground to Nellis. And I out to the Northern Net. So it's an underground,
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that's what they call it, an Ant Hill. If you go to an Ant, there's a ton of them. You go in and
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there are all these connections, right? So we have a very good idea of where those are and some
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of the whistleblowers we're working with, no even more. And that needs to be provided to people in
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the US government so that they can get control of those. And there are some very brave men I'm
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working with who have been special forces guys who are prepared to go in and get those facilities
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under control and also to liberate those people. That's crazy too. If these things are so smart and
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so advanced, how are they going to let one of their own be captive by us? Well, you know,
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that's a lot of people say that. But just because your advanced doesn't mean terrible things don't
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happen. I mean, you know, technically you could throw a bunch of spears by cavemen into the
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rotors of a Sokorsky helicopter and jam it up and have a crash. So, you know, bad things happen.
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You know, of course, being a trauma guy. I mean, I you just see the weirdest things happen. So
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just because they're very advanced, people can flate that with being infallible.
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Well, I mean, God's infallible, but certainly no individual person or civilizations infallible.
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So this concept it just goes they're extremely high tech and bright. I mean, they're infallible. No.
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Now, is it that often that it happens? No, it doesn't. The one side I was over,
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I was told there were one or two ET craft per year downed. And I went over two black sites.
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And so, you know, two to four a year over a big area of that part of the desert. So it's not like
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they're dropping out of the sky like flies is what I'm saying. It's still terrible. But then
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remember, we have sites like that all over the world, out back up Australia, South America,
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all around. And it's still tragic and it shouldn't be happening. And when there are ones that are
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living, they just don't flat out kill them. They would prefer to interrogate them and keep them.
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And so their my understanding is that there are a number of ET's that are in captivity and are still
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living. One guy euphemistically called them refugees, I think not. They're prisoners. But,
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you know, so I think that is another, you know, humanitarian effort that should happen at some
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point where they're freed. And how many different versions or species of these things do you think we
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have? Have you ever seen any of them in person? I'm not seeing living once in captivity in those
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spaces. No, I've seen ET's. But they're not, to my knowledge, I've never heard anyone describe the
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variety of them. I know that in the crash retrievals. Now we have 122 documented crash retrieval
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events that are in part of them are in here. They're in our archive, dpi archive.com, all of them are
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in there. And they range from ones that are a foot foot and a half tall to some that are 8, 10
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feet tall and all kinds of different, we would just say, you know, genetic expressions. But they
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seemed to all have a head to arms and two legs, but interesting. But beyond that, there's infinite
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variety. What about the mantis ones? Well, that one that was the healer when you see him and they
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is sort of a triangular head. And they're known as really extraordinary healers. I mean, they have
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amazing healing capabilities. That one right there. That's a mantis. Yeah. What some people would call
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is sort of a triangular head. You can see in a sort of, you can outline it if I have my cursor,
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I could do it. But remember, this is in complete darkness in the world and it's up on a mountain
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in Arizona. This was actually an oracle, ironic or AC, like, or Oracle Arizona. Yeah, a couple
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years ago. And so that's, you know, and we love doing that. That's my real passion is going out
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in the experimentation and using consciousness and remote viewing to make contact and see what
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happens. And a lot of it varies on the group because if there's someone not on the page or someone
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there who's filled with superstition and fear, they won't show up because they don't want to be
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around dumb people who haven't figured that. Now, what? Sorry. But, um, you know, if you haven't
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figured that out, they're going, why are you out there with us? You know, go home. Yeah. And go
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look at, uh, stranger things or something. What, how far have you gotten in your investigation
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into those beings that you talked about and studied in your serious documentary? The small
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beings and I think you talked about how do you know, and work with you on that? Yeah, Gary
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Nolan received a lot of money right after we gave him that genetic sample and he altered the
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results of it. So we don't know what that creature is. He received a lot of money. Yeah. I think
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it was 3.4 million from the Pentagon and, uh, and then he, so he is now, uh, contracting with
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the intelligence community to show UAP injuries, which is just a sia op. Um, yes, of course. I mean,
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the UAP injuries are all man made, but of course, you get someone like him. It's the man made,
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it's the man made the essence of course. And, and you're, but you, you put this, uh, the
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stink on the ET is when it's something we've done, right? So, uh, unfortunately, you know, I think
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that went sideways very badly. So to this day, we don't know what that thing was. Now, he published
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a report saying it was a deformed fetus. Yes. Even though the top, uh, geneticists or, uh,
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doctor who deals with bone malformation said no way because it was global. It had growth plates,
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uh, consistent equivalent of a six year old human, but it was only about six inches tall.
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And so we don't know what it was. It could have been something that is a completely unknown species
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on earth. It could have been something that's a result of both earth and non human, uh,
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interactions that are ancient in that part of the Atacama Desert and Shelley. Yeah. There are
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accounts of, uh, these UFOs being seen and these small creatures, the adult ones are like a
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foot and a half tall. But to this day, we actually don't know what it is. I mean, I never said it
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was ET. I said, we don't know what it is, but it's most certainly not human. So what was published,
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by Gary Nolan and those guys, and I've had the top geneticists in the world tear apart their data,
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since totally hoaxed is totally academic fraud. Really? Yes. But this happened, you know, this,
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this is why you asked about being paranoid. I'm careful, but I'm not paranoid because I've had so
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many people who could go on the path of finding the truth and they either get blackmailed and or both
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bribe, given a lot of money. And next thing you know, there are everything goes sideways. And so,
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you know, I've seen that dozens hundreds of times in 35 years. You know, it, you know, it makes
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you a little bit cynical, I guess, or skeptical. So, but no, no, he, I mean, he completely started out
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as an honest person. I know that. And when we first met in 2012, I think, but at this point,
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the man that's got to be cleaned up, it's a mess. What about those mummies that were
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the, the mummies that were shown to Mexican Congress by, by Jamie.
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A high-meam assault. Those, those were actually from Peru and from a cave. And we know, I know the
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researchers, the scientists who looked into that. I've never been down there. But it was handled
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like you would handle. There's a lot of buffoonery that goes on with the UFO subculture.
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It was handled in a poor way. But I actually think the, the actual mummies are legitimate,
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a very old, thousands of years old, non-human species. Now, how they got there, where they're
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originally from. But these are not hooks. I've seen the cross sections. I've seen the cat scans.
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But unfortunately, I was going to go down there with the team this past spring last year
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and try to do a scientific expedition. But there was too much interference from other people.
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And I pulled out of that. But there needs to be a whole series. You have to do ancient DNA,
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right? Which I mean, it's different from DNA. You'd pull on a live person. And it's a whole
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different technique. You need to have really good forensic, uh, dissection, partial dissections.
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And you need to have everyone of them can't scan. And then the metal objects on them have to go
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through a very sophisticated and expensive analysis to see if the atomic, uh, let's just say whether
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it was of earth, origin, metal, or from out there. And you can do that. But this is a very,
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um, complex and expensive and time consuming endeavor that would run into the hundreds of thousands
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to a couple million bucks to do, right? Properly. Uh, now there's never that kind of, the only
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funding like that in the UFO subculture is the fun things that are disinformation operations.
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Fact. So that has not happened yet. I may be at will at some point.
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Um, but my assessment of I actually visited a man in Utah who had acquired several of these,
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but they were still in Peru. And he gave me a lot of information that I, when I saw it, he was
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scientist. And I went, yeah, these are real. Now, there are origins, I don't know, you know, and
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uh, no one's to my knowledge done a proper DNA someone attempted to, I think it was a Russian
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archaeologist, but it was not done properly. I don't have faith in it because it's very different
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when you take DNA from either someone recently deceased or living. Sure. How you run that is very
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different than what's called ancient DNA. An ancient could be even 30 years old because it,
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uh, anyway, it breaks down in a way to get a correct genetic code read on it. Is it completely
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esoteric and you, in specialized area of genetic sequencing? It isn't like regular genetic sequencing.
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So, you know, I would know how to direct that scientific project and I have a net time.
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And then when we were going to go down, there was all kinds of nonsense and
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theatrics and trickery. And I said, I'm out of here until this gets cleaned up.
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Yeah. So, what's on the horizon for you as far as like your whistle blowers and what,
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like what do you think is going to happen and in what time frame? As far as getting these people
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like Jake in front of Congress and getting this stuff actually not going into a skip and
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then disappearing and actually seeing something happen, something tangible take place and,
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and guide this whole thing in the right direction. Well, you make a good point. The worst,
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one of my concerns is this comes out and gets spun as a threat like I was talking about, or
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it simply goes back into the black pittacal cutta. You know, in other words, it just gets put back
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into a black project. It begins to serve as it gets slammed back down again. Both could happen.
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Hopefully it neither do. But so what I'm continuing to do, I'm going from, uh, from here,
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back up to, well, I actually give him a lecture here in St. Peter's bird. Oh, really?
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And then I'm going to be going back to DC for some meetings with Congress folks and then I'll be
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back down here to meet with, anyway, a general, oh, really? Who is, yes, and who had been at one point,
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the National Security Advisor for a president. So, you know, we're trying to still work the system
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and get the more important trajectory, I think, is going to be empowered people
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through an executive order to take all these whistleblowers we have, protect them,
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and then get their information and then get those old legacy corrupt programs under control.
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And that's the real plan, you know, and whether we can make it happen, we're going to give it
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the all-out effort this year. And I think it can. I actually, I think there are people in the
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new administration very open to this. I don't think they have much information. I mean, I've met with
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some of the incoming prospective cabinet members already. But what's, I don't think there's yet
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a consensus on the path to take. And unfortunately, a lot of them have been targeted with false information.
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So it's complicated, just like members of Congress have had that happen. The best I can do is give
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the information, the evidence, and the advice, and then see how they carry the ball in the meanwhile.
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I actually think that they need to be hearing from the public. The public can get this and say,
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oh, these recommendations, these executive orders and what kind of do it, you know, just write a
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letter, you know, to your members. And a lot of people don't do that. They need this very old fashion.
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But I mentioned this earlier, I've heard from so many people in Washington who are elected
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representatives and they go, we really want to hear from our constituents on this. But most people,
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they just, this is entertainment for people. Yeah, it's just, yeah, that's the other thing about it.
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That I, we haven't talked about. We've been talking about the, the siop within a siop angle of this
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whole thing the whole time and the counterintelligence, disinformation and strategic deception. But like,
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you have to layer on top of that. This whole, this whole subject is a business for people too. Yeah.
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There's people that build their careers off talking about this stuff and doing all kinds of crazy
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shit. I lost my career over it. Yeah, I've given up 15 or 20 million dollars in that. I mean, careers,
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I mean, careers based on the topic itself. Oh, of course. And the scarier and more false it is,
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the more money there is. Yeah. Because they're going to open every door to a book publisher or a big
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movie deal. Yeah. If the information is BS, right? But it's scary. So that's the other thing I
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discovered is that, you know, we'll put something like this out of a print on demand. But Harper Collins
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will give someone a million dollar contract to put out a book, this full nonsense and disinformation
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designed to scare the hell out of people. Gee, I wonder how that happens. Yeah. So I, you know,
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this is something I just accept as the way things are right now. It might change. Who knows?
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Well, Steve started our own podcast, by the way. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, I was going to say,
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tell people where they can learn more about what you're doing and, you know, your website and all
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that stuff. Yeah. So you'll be able to get this now on, you know, our site, the briefing document
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material. We have a podcast that we've started. We've only done, I think four or five episodes.
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They're not fancy like this. They're very homemade. But this is our band. The homemade ones are
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the best. Yeah, it's quite primitive. But it's to get the information out. And as all this
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begins to break, I want to be able to weekly basis comment on it. And then if you want to, you
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know, sort of be part of the CE5, there's the app, CE5 contact. You can get on any of your
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app stores. And if you want to join us for that cruise, I don't think you're being virtually,
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now a caveat there, there will be places where starlink and our connectivity out in the middle
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of the Caribbean won't be live. We'll have to record it and put it up. But it'll still be a fun
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experience. And you'll really learn a lot because you'll be part of the daytime conference.
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And then also the nighttime four of the nights will be out on the upper deck out on those stars
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in the middle of the ocean. And we'll see what happens. You know, it'll be fun. Okay. So Steve,
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we have Patreon questions. Our beautiful Patreon community had some questions for you.
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Well, we can rip through those real quick. And then we can wrap it up. So this is the end of
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