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In June 2015, Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks, a 20-year veteran of the United States Army who worked in field artillery radar,
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was driving with his wife and two children along a desolate stretch of highway on their way to their new home in Colorado Springs.
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As they entered a dense wall of mist, the radio began to cut out and the truck started to experience violent electrical surges.
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Then, directly above their vehicle, a massive disc spanning the size of several football fields descended silently out of the fog
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and hovered momentarily before it shot off at an unimaginable speed.
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Shaken, the family pulled into a nearby rest stop, and that's where they realized that something was wrong,
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because they were missing nearly three hours of time.
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The following night, Jeremy awoke not in his bed, but standing in the motel bathroom.
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The pen clenched in one hand, the motel receipt in the other.
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On the back of that receipt was a strange series of squares and lines, something he had no memory of drawing.
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The symbols didn't stop there.
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More appeared over the following days, weeks, and months.
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It wasn't until the material was examined by researcher Linda Moulton Howe
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and later handed to scientist and geneticist Dr. Horace Drew for analysis
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that the full implications became clear.
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What Jeremy was producing appeared to be a novel way of visualizing a binary system,
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a multiplex code that allows for layered information to be hidden within a simple format.
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But that wasn't the most disturbing part.
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You see, the messages also appeared to be a warning.
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And according to the translation, they were heralding an incoming alien invasion.
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Jeremy first appeared with a disguised voice in an interview with Linda on the Gaia YouTube channel nearly eight years ago.
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And today, for the first time, he is revealing his identity publicly
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and sharing the next phase of his ongoing communication with the beings known only as the Council.
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Strap yourselves in.
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I would highly advise that you suspend your disbelief for the following few hours and hear out what Jeremy has to say.
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Now, at the end of this, if you choose not to believe or believe, that's entirely up to you.
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And honestly, I don't think belief plays a major part in this at all.
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I think gather the information and the data that's going to be provided for you,
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shelf it, catalog it, and then eventually hold it up to the light
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and see what other connections we can make using that information.
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The story is, I was sitting in an electric utility's parking lot
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in the middle of nowhere, San Luis Valley, Colorado.
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I hear the strangest, most guttural noise.
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It sounded like a donkey had its neck slit by a laser or something.
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And I was freaking out.
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All of a sudden, a truck comes down the road.
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He pulls, I wave at him.
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I have all my camera equipment out so he sees what I'm doing.
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But he was effectively, you know, accusing me of this or about to be.
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And so he raced off right over to where I heard it happen.
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He had a house, as I would come to find out, because I visited him two years later,
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because it took up courage to actually go and just visit this random house
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and ask this dude about if one of his animals was mutilated.
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I confirmed with this rancher that what happened that night is his mare horse was mutilated.
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Classic, no blood, took out the tongue, a couple other strange parts.
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One hell of a memorable experience.
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It happened a little bit after I saw a green orb, too.
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All right, folks, we got somebody very special here.
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Somebody I'm excited to talk to.
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This is retired Army Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks.
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Jeremy, you've got a really interesting background and story, which we're going to get into today.
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First of all, I want to thank you for coming here.
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Thank you for having me.
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Jeremy, it's going to be this to some people watching and listening.
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You might be familiar to them, but to maybe most of the audience, obviously,
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they're not going to be familiar with you.
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But you had an incident happen to you and your family in 2015, June 2015, I believe.
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Yeah, and that kind of changed your whole course of your life.
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And subsequently, this was investigated by Linda Moulton Howe, among many others.
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And eventually, you gave an interview under the pseudonym CJ.
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Yes, our first class CJ, yes.
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And so today, this is you basically coming out to the world saying that was you.
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So let's start a little bit further back.
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I do want to introduce you to the audience, and I want to bring them up to speed a little bit on sort of your trajectory.
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Now, you were in the Army from 2001 to 2021, served 20 years in the Army.
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So you were still serving when this happened?
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Can you tell us a little bit about your background history and what you were in the Army for?
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My job in the military was field artillery radar.
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I chose this job because it just seemed like it was a challenge for me, and I wanted to do something more or less like a challenge.
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But I also wanted to be outdoors.
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So I didn't want to do infantry.
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That wasn't my forte.
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I wanted to be out there doing something and creating an environment around me that was challenging.
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And so I chose field artillery radar because essentially we're like forward observers.
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We're out there alone by ourselves and trying to track enemy targets, you know, that sort of thing.
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It was exciting, and I stayed with that career.
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I stayed with that job my entire career.
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I stayed field artillery radar from the moment I joined to the moment I retired.
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So field artillery radar, it's basically signals.
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You're working with radar all the time.
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You're tracking all sorts of stuff, and then you're relaying that back to your superiors.
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And you're doing this all over the world.
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You've traveled to many locations.
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You want to name a few of the places that you've been that you served?
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South Korea, Poland, Germany, Iraq, lots of different locations across the United States.
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Yeah, well, I mean, might as well just address it.
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Post-military, you also went into defense contracting.
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For, do you want to say who for?
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I was a defense contractor with a company that picks up a lot of field engineer type stuff.
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And so I worked with a very well-known defense contractor that required me to travel across the United States, work on radar systems.
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And working in Iraq for a while, yeah.
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And you don't want to name who that contractor was?
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I mean, it's probably out there.
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So, yeah, I was with JBM, which was a subcontractor for Lockheed Martin.
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So quite a substantial career, obviously being in war zones, being, you know, deployed during Iraq and, you know, had probably some, I mean, interesting run-ins over there and throughout your career.
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But nothing like what happened to you in 2015.
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Can you tell us where you were going?
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Now, I have this information here, but I just want you to kind of run through the story if that's possible.
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Going from A to Z, where you were going, what road, what time this happened, all the details you can just so we can start there.
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So within my job field, there's been several incidents that I just can't talk about.
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You've always wanted to, and you think about it in the back of your mind, man, I wish I could tell people about this, but you can't.
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So a lot of things have been quite silenced for me.
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Are you referring to like-
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Yeah, you're referring to prior military, and you're referring to like anomalous activity?
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Anomalous activities and non-disclosure statements, and you can't discuss it.
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Charlotte, until those non-disclosure statements expire.
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So, yes, I can't go into details with those, but just experiencing them over and over and over again and not being able to talk about them just drives you kind of crazy after a while.
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But, so June 29th, 2015, I was on leave, and my wife, my kids, family had packed up, and we were moving from Georgia to Colorado Springs, Colorado.
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So, we packed up, and we chose to drive at night to avoid a lot of the traffic, because I had a large cargo trailer I was pulling behind my truck.
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And it was easier on the animals and the kids traveling at night, because they're going to sleep.
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They're not going to drive you crazy.
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And so, it just makes it a little bit more comfortable ride for my wife and I.
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And so, we left, if I want to remember correctly, around 8 p.m., and I set GPS, brand new GPS.
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I made sure everything was working.
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And we planned our route.
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And so, our route was to Atlanta, and we were planning on stopping just after getting through Atlanta and the chaotic traffic.
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En route, at some point along the highway, GPS rerouted us north on, I believe it was Interstate 6 or Highway 6, or I'm trying to remember.
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It was almost like I didn't notice that I had veered off of the highway onto another highway.
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I mean, I did, essentially, but I thought it was part of the planned route, because the GPS was taking us there.
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So, we pull off and start traveling down this other highway, and we started noticing a lot of dense fog and a lot of surges within the power system of the truck,
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such as, like, my dash lights started to dim, my headlights were dimming, our radio signal lost all radio signals.
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So, we moved it to XM, like a satellite radio, and we were listening to it for a short while before it lost all kinds of signal.
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We couldn't get any signal on XM satellite.
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We couldn't get any signal on the radio.
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So, we ended up turning it off, just shutting it off.
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We were, what the heck?
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Why can't we get any signal?
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So, there was a lot of confusion going on in the cab of the truck at the time, as we're traveling, that sometimes my headlights would just get really bright, like almost I'd...
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Surged or something?
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Like, I put on my brights or something, and I didn't.
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I checked, and my brights even got even brighter.
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When I flashed them, I was like, no, it's not me.
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So, she's asking me, like, what are you doing?
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Why are all the lights dimming, and what's going on?
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And I was like, I have no idea.
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Maybe there's some sort of...
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I got some sort of electrical disturbance in the engine compartment.
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Maybe something shifted or vibrated and touched and is messing up with my electrical system.
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I told her I might have to stop, and I have to, like, lift the hood and see what's going on here later.
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But we continued down the road.
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We kept running into the fog and things.
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Now, this fog, how far was visibility with this fog?
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Was it really dense, or was it, like, just kind of like a mist, or...?
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Some of it was pretty dense, where I could only see about 20, 30 feet in front of the truck.
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So, I had to slow down a few times going through it.
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And then it would, like, lighten up, and I could see further, and I'd speed up again.
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So, this was going on for a little while.
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This is that moment my wife looked up and saw a bright light coming toward us.
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And she pointed it out and was like, what the heck is that?
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That's pretty bright.
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And I looked over and I was like, oh, it's probably an airplane or something, you know?
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And I just kept on driving, and I kept glancing over.
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But I'm driving, so I have to keep this big cargo trailer and the truck and animals and everything.
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I'm focused on my task, and my task is, you know, keep us safe.
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And so, I'm focusing on the task, but I'm also, I'm glancing up at this object that's off to my left, coming toward us.
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And then I noticed the lights were getting a lot brighter.
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It was kind of lighting up the area coming toward us.
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And then I realized this may be an emergency or some sort of aircraft that looks like it's about to try to land or crash onto the highway.
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I need to, I need to pull over.
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So, I started pulling over and hitting the brakes, slowing down as it's, as it's coming toward us.
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And I'm like, what in the, what in the world?
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I mean, so, at this point, it's so bright, you can't identify anything.
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I did not see wings, wing strobes.
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I did not see the red and green indicators for the left and right for the aircraft.
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So, as an observer, you're able to distinguish those things.
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I mean, I've been observing these things, you know, aircraft and all types of objects that are, you know, high velocity and traveling through the skies.
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So, I'm a trained observer.
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Very well-trained observer.
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And so, I'm looking for these things, but I'm also, like, concerned because if this is an, if this is an aircraft under an emergency, needing to make an emergency landing, I don't want to be in its path.
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And I don't want to collide with it.
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I eventually stopped on the, on the side of the highway, on the side of the highway at the right side.
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And I came to a stop through at a park.
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And we just sat there for a moment as it was coming in.
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And then it slowed down.
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And it was no longer in the position where it was going to collide or land on the highway.
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It, it, it, it leveled off.
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And then it, it turned slightly going, uh, directly east.
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And then it just slowly moved right over the, the, the truck.
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How far from the truck do you estimate it was?
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Like at its closest distance?
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You have to give me a second as I'm thinking about it.
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But I believe not more than, uh, maybe 50, 50 feet, 50 yards from the truck.
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Um, maybe a little closer.
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I mean, could have been 25.
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Um, but it was just over the truck.
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And, and how big roughly?
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Uh, 200, about 250 meters, uh, 250 feet.
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I would say, I would say close.
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You have to forgive me in my meters and my feet.
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Kilometers and miles.
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As, as, uh, military.
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We used a lot of, uh, different, um, references.
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Um, but, uh, I would say about closer to two football fields in length.
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Uh, and, and, and, and, and length and in height, roughly, uh, uh, 60 to 80, 60 to 80, uh, feet in height.
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No, it wasn't small.
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As it got so close and you're, I'm able to, to determine some, some, uh, um, uh, etching on the, on the bottom.
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But technically it wasn't etching.
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It was just more symbology symbols along the bottom.
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And I'm just looking at the symbology on the symbols on it and trying to identify it as, as what type of aircraft, because I didn't know if this was some sort of blimp or some sort of, um, uh, weather blimp or, or whatnot.
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But this, as it got closer and, you know, as it had leveled off and, and come over slowly, I, I soon realized this is not anything I recognize.
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I, I'm a little bit familiar with.
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With many different types of aircraft.
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Different types of aircraft that most civilians don't, uh, recognize or understand.
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So, uh, aircrafts that are not public.
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We'll say, we could say like some, you know.
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Some classified stuff.
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Classified aircraft.
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But, and we won't go into that.
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But, uh, you know, I, I'm familiar with a lot of different.
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It's not that is what you're saying.
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It is definitely not that.
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And that's what was throwing me off is the symbology underneath it, uh, didn't compute.
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With what, what this was.
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Because this is not, this didn't seem like a symbology that we use, you know.
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Um, and I didn't recognize it.
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And the odd thing is the, the light it was projecting, um, was not attached.
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This was, it was not attached to this, to this object, to this, uh, aerial phenomenon.
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This, this, this UAP was projecting, uh, light that wasn't attached to it.
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I want to say, you know, four to five feet away from this, this, the, the physical, um,
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the physical, uh, uh, body of it.
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The physical vehicle.
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It was detached and projecting light.
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And then in the, on the backside, it was, it was, uh, would occasionally, it wouldn't
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But then occasionally as it was moving, it would just throw sparks like a, a static discharge
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off of the back end of it.
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Well, and I don't know if that was propulsion.
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I don't know if that was, uh, it was into interfering with the environment, um, such as
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cloud or moisture in the air that was causing some of that, uh, uh, the discharge.
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Um, it was, it was just throwing me off that it, it wasn't attached as well.
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It was, it was off of the object itself or off of the vehicle itself.
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And, um, it had the, when you're looking at the vehicle, um, itself, it, it, uh, it projected,
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it was like this, this field all around it that was, um, like an oil slick on water,
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The, the, the pinks and the purples.
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And it was, it was like, it was like some sort of plasma field that was, um, just kind
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of swirling all around it, all over.
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You could tell it was like a silverish in color.
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So you could tell it was a physical object.
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You can tell it was a physical object.
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But it had like an outer layer that was dynamic.
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And it's, it, it, to me, it looked like it had some sort of field around it, some sort
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of protective field or, or, um, you know, I, I, I couldn't tell you exactly.
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What color exactly was just like shimmering multiple colors?
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Multiple different colors.
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And it didn't happen all over it at all, all at once.
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It had spots where you can see the silver of the, uh, the, the, the vehicle itself.
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So I knew it was like a metallic, metallic silverish, um, um, aluminum type, uh, material.
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And you could tell it was consistent with the aluminum.
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No, I did not see any seams.
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Um, I would say dull.
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It, uh, it didn't shine.
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You couldn't see your reflection kind of thing.
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It, it was just a, it was just a silver, um, like a aluminum.
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Like an oblong object too.
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Was this like a, like a football shaped?
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Um, yeah, it had, it had, I couldn't describe it.
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Not precisely the way that the shape it was, was similar to a football at one particular,
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And it had moved in.
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We saw that it was, uh, round when it had, was coming down.
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We could, we could tell it was round.
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And when it was leaving, you could tell it was round.
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But a lot of our perspective was.
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You know, and until it got overhead.
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And then you could tell it was, it was oval.
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And, uh, that's where I could see some of the, uh, the, the symbology underneath on the
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What would you compare those symbols to if you had to compare them today?
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Cause there's a lot of symbols out there that have been witnessed by many experiencers.
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Um, what would you compare it to?
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Um, I would compare them to, uh, most recently the, uh, the, the sphere, there's a sphere
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that was, uh, uh, I believe in Mexico.
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Some of the symbology, um, was very, very similar to what I was seeing on the, on the
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underneath side of this.
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So, but at that time that didn't exist.
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So I just did the best I could to represent the, the symbology that I had seen.
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And to me, it, it, it, I, I pictured it as only lasting, you know, a few minutes of this,
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Um, and so for me, I was just trying to identify it.
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I did everything I could to try to identify it.
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And with, to no avail, uh, this is nothing that we, that we have.
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This is nothing that exists.
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What color was the light that was being emitted?
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It was a, it was a bright white.
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It had literally no color to it whatsoever.
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Blinding bright white.
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Just bullet, just as white as white can get.
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So this is overhead.
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You're seeing these anomalous symbols.
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You're seeing this weird skin on the craft be, you know, dynamic and roiling and
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plus, you know, the cars messing up.
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You got kids in the back.
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What's your general gestalt here?
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What's your general vibe of the situation?
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Are you like, what's going on?
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I'm in defense mode.
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Because as it was coming down, I thought it was going to collide with the road or collide
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with us or make an emergency landing.
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And I didn't want to be in its path when it, and so I was in defense mode.
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And I generally stayed in defense mode during the entire encounter because I couldn't recognize
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If you can't recognize something, you don't know what something's capable of.
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And so you're, you're, I just immediately stayed in defense mode.
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And so I was also observing as much as humanly possible that I could view from it.
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So I'm leaning forward into the, I'm leaning forward and looking up through my windshield.
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I had my window down trying to listen for sound.
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I was listening and all I heard was a humming and I can't describe the humming.
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It was just a mild humming.
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It was like a pulsating that I think you described.
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And so it had some rhythm to it.
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So there was some sort of mechanics or engineering.
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But what type of engineering, nothing I can identify with anything that we have other
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than some sort of maybe something electrical.
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Sound like a generator or something.
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It was, it was, it was like a humming, like an, uh, like, uh, applying power to, you know,
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capacitor or whatnot.
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It's something that produces just a low humming sound.
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It was, uh, I would say not, not loud and deafening, just very, very subtle and quiet.
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I mean, you wouldn't even be able to hear it, you know, a few hundred feet away.
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Unless you're right under it.
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Then you can hear it.
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You need to hear the humming.
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I mean, so, um, you, do you also experience, was this now or later on, I might be mistaken,
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but some type of static, like charge?
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Inside the vehicle, we noticed that, uh, as you can see, I don't have much hair.
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Uh, I never did in the military.
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I always kept the sides short and maybe the, the top of my head just a little bit longer.
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But, uh, we noticed that our hair was sticking straight up on our arms.
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And both you and your wife.
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And the kids are asleep at this point.
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The kids are asleep.
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Um, uh, my, uh, uh, my oldest that was back there, he was kind of, he was kind of waking
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up a little bit and he was just like, oh, what's going on?
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What are y'all talking about?
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And he just kind of went back to sleep.
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I mean, I'm sure he's seen something, but he, he was, he was exhausted and just fell back
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So my youngest was just out, you know, he was just out, out cold.
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Um, and so you're, but your wife was.
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So we're, we're, we're, we're, we're kind of at the moment, you know, to, to say the
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least, taken back a little bit, you know, saying some things to each, to each other,
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like what in the F is, you know, we're, we're.
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Both freaking out a little bit right now.
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Well, you know, not, not really freaking out.
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I'm just more or less like trying to calm her down.
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Yeah, this is, this has been a while, you know, my hair stinking up and so is mine.
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yeah and then shortly after it just it it moves up um to the northeast and starts headed northeast
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and we watch it like raising altitude roughly you know not super fast but just kind of gradual
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and then it gets up to the northeast and then it rotates and moves where it's facing um east
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more directly east but in a uh you know raising itself at attitude altitude and it just is just
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gone just gone right through the clouds just like it like i like i punched a hole in the clouds like
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no sound gone it was it was like a uh a moment where you're looking at it and it becomes like a
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a blur streak gone whoa you know just faster than your eyes can keep up with you know it just whipped
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out right through the clouds and was gone and and at that point where i was like okay that just
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that just happened and i'm not in a uniform and i'm not in another country and i'm not out in the
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training field i'm not out with my soldiers you know i'm this is happening right here while i'm on
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vacation essentially yeah i i i need to remember all of this and write this down times everything
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i've saved receipts because during my my uh trip my responsibility is to save all my receipts so that i can
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claim it right when i get to my next duty station and get reimbursed for uh some of my expenses so
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um i thought that worked out perfect because now i have yeah a ledger a ledger of every place that
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i'd stopped the times that i stopped and where we stopped you know that was perfect so i was saving
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everything anyway so uh that was awesome for me however once we cranked the truck back up and started
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driving up the road i believe we got up about you know five to five to seven miles um guesstimation
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here and i saw a semi truck on the side of the road and a um something that kind of looks like a volvo
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of a wagon um four-door that was parked in front of the the semi truck and they were walking back to
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their vehicles chatting like they had seen something too and i was like wow okay awesome so we weren't
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the only ones so yes i can't wait to see what what they had what they saw what they encountered i mean
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this was directly over our truck so we're not crazy they saw something too and so that just kind of
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helped us confirm comprehend things a little bit better you know that that we're not crazy
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crazy which i knew we weren't crazy because we're both talking to each other about it you know so we
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get a little further up the road and we stopped at gas station and uh i immediately when i got out
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of the truck i felt like like i had been in the truck for for days and not moving you know what i mean
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like cramped legs cramped up it was weird it was like um it was like uh i was maybe floating
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underwater or in a submersible of zero zero um gravity and now that i'm getting out of the truck
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it's like gravity hit me again you know like sea legs almost like oh my yeah like oh my word like uh
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why why am i feeling so um just weak weak yeah like totally worn out weak exhausted and we had just
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started our trip there's no way that my body couldn't handle that you know what i mean that was that was
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you know we should have only been in like an hour or so but um it is what it felt like anyway for me
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um driving so that's not normal for me i'm i'm always moving i mean anyone who's ever been in u.s
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army or military you move around quite a bit you know most yeah especially you know when you get up
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and uh your senior and occupation officer or senior officer right you you move to different duty stations
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you do different assignments it's part of the what what we what we do you know so
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this was odd for me that i i felt so lethargic getting out of the vehicle and feeling like
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my legs were struggling to support my weight kind of thing because i'm not a heavy dude i'm a
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you know i'm pretty slim i'm pretty fit um i'm old but you know it is what it is getting out of the
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vehicle and not feeling that and feeling that was it was odd and she mentioned the same thing she felt
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like uh she felt like she'd been in the truck forever you know and we had just started so it
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was an odd feeling but we kind of brushed it off and continued in and grabbed something to drink and
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so she had felt this way too like did at what point did you notice that was it like you came out of the
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car and right away you're like what's going on did she also feel that and you guys kind of like agreed
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on that what was that like no i was feeling it and just kind of like trying to figure it out and
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walk it off she had walked around to the front of the vehicle and she's like she she was the first to
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make the comment as i was thinking about i was about to say it and she's like my look i feel like
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i feel like we've been in the truck for hours i'm my legs are are weird or shaky i need to get
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something to eat and i was like i know i'm feeling the same thing that's what i'm trying to figure out
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right now i was like we've been in the truck for several hours or something and and i'm just cramped
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up or something i don't know we both she mentioned at first and then i was already feeling it feeling
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it and about to say something that she did and you'd mentioned also i i think that um that there
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was like this static charge that you still felt is that the static charge started to go away it
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started to go away but you you'd still it was still yes it was coming down yeah it was coming back
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to me and and uh small amounts yeah where i got further away from the truck it kind of went away
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okay wow really when i'm with when i'm in the truck it would it would come back whoa and it wouldn't
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stay it would go and come back go and come back you know it was kind of reverberating erratic when
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i'm with the truck when i moved away from the truck and we had gone in to use the restroom grab
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something to drink it was gone you know when i come back to the truck it was coming back and so it
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was happening um when we came back to the truck now once we once we uh um bought our drinks and stuff
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we were about to mention like did anybody see you know but before that even happened somebody
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walked in and was like it looks like there's like uh some meteor that just came by just went by and
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did anybody notice the meteor and i was like no i didn't see a meteor i know what meteors look like
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and and you know what space debris looks like when it's returning to the earth's atmosphere
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um so yes when you have something burning up like a old piece of space junk that's floating around our
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space and we got tons of stuff floating around up there and we we see it we know we know where most
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of this stuff is and it's it's it's risky putting up satellites teachers are having to avoid all this
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stuff that's just flying around up there when it comes back into the atmosphere it burns up and pieces start
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burning off of it and uh separating from it and so that's very consistent with uh with with the
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space debris when when you have pieces that burn up and separate change colors and do all sorts of
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and eventually it it touches down and then somebody has to go and clean up and you know of course it
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makes the news and such so that's the other thing that kind of baffled me is the uh the fact that
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that nasa pointed out it was possibly space debris um they didn't say it was space debris when was that
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that was shortly after uh i think we arrived in colorado and i was just looking stuff up sure to
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see if you know but there were several hundred eyewitnesses um i didn't do it right away later
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on i just kind of read through hundreds and hundreds of you know i i comments and yeah some of them
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really lined up well with what we witnessed you know and and i realized that they weren't very far
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away from where we were and so it was odd that they had very similar descriptions in some of those some of
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those witness reports that i had read but um but yeah uh the odd thing is that this space debris
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should have landed somewhere up in north carolina uh north carolina northern north carolina or virginia
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right yeah where it should have come down and you'd think that uh there would be you know some um
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news reports of some space debris that was found and yeah like they did up anything nothing
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nothing was found and so that was odd that there was no news reports of um somebody having a piece
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of a satellite that came down that they were cleaning up now i'm not taking away the fact that that was
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you know russian space they believed it was probably a russian satellite they had come down um which i'm
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not taking away from that that could have very well have also happened right but you know it's odd that
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we witnessed this around the exact same time which lead me to believe that maybe it was using you
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know everybody's focused attention is on this space debris so that this other thing can move around and
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do what it wants to do they needed an explanation right right so like maybe this this uh uap um perhaps had
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a mission and took the opportunity why attention was focused elsewhere to do what it wants to do without
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you know yeah getting spotted and spotted and okay we'll get into what it wanted to do in a second
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because uh it gets it gets pretty wild it gets really wild um as you can tell i've got like a pile
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of printed notes here from uh dr horace drew right you know who's who's done a lot of study on this and so
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it's you know linda molten howe as well and kind of picking up where they left off here but before i get to
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that i want to go back to the symbols just real quick absolutely and one other thing there was
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also these uh seemingly what looked like portholes uh that that that were around the craft that you
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described like these squarish windows right that were rounded that you said kind of like uh that
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that illuminated right and you weren't sure if they were windows or if they were just lights um
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did those show up they they kind of just showed up or were they always there on the craft they were there
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the entire time um the uh the image that you're looking at um the the middle one was my wife's
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interpretation of what she had witnessed and she she's not uh an artist i drew that's pretty good i
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drew what she wanted me to draw the way she wanted she wanted it and she was standing right over me
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helping me uh she she identified those lights around as being round and circular i i definitely identified
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in my upper image because i was a little bit distracted trying to get these done quick
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and they're they're crappy i don't like them at all i i wish i spent like a few days on each one you're a
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tough critic this way i'm a tough critic but i love art i love i love i love that stuff you're obviously
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very talented i'm i'm not you are but i'm decent i mean i'm decent at best if every experiencer was this
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talented you know it might help us piece the puzzle together a lot quicker i'll tell you um but what
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first of all they're strikingly similar in in their surface and what's going on on the outside of the
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craft but right but yeah go ahead so the the vehicle that she witnessed the lights around the side is
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round i i recognize them as being slightly rectangular with uh rounded edges right so but i was really
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observing and really focusing on trying to identify whereas she was just experiencing and so in her
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defense she was she was wanting to describe or see things the way that she interpreted them i'm looking
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at it and in a completely different other mind frame trains observer military mind frame of trying to
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identify notice small details noticed anything that could help me identify things and so i paid close
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attention to those lights around the outside and their shape and uh i i i i i was just trying to
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identify its silhouette and and the way it was moving and everything that i could so that i can uh
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articulate that later and and you were trying to identify the silhouette because that's what you're
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trained to do with the radar work that you've done you identify things on a radar absolutely by its silhouette
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and obviously by its trajectory its speed and all that stuff too but that's that's one of the big so
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you were trying to see if that lined up with anything that you had previously observed on a radar is that
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correct fair to say yeah um and so the symbols here we see five symbols i find them really interesting that
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you uh they they do look familiar to like the bugosphere symbols but many other symbols um like you said
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that doesn't look so much like letters but symbols like almost like hieroglyphics or right or even um
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quite similar to like greek lettering a little bit as well um you see some of them here and obviously
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we're going to touch on the rendalsham uh incident as well okay because uh and we'll get there in a
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second because there are a few uh comparisons to be made but one of which is the lettering on the craft
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as well was kind of similar right which i thought was uh which i thought was really interesting um but
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there's a middle symbol here that i picked up so the middle symbol which is like a line like these two lines
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like this correct there's uh there's a case in spain um of umo okay um this was like this was this
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wave i got two books up there but it was this wave uh from the 50s to the 70s in europe where these
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letters were kind of like sent all over europe apparently by an alien race um but the symbol that
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kept showing up and this was from a sighting in russia um but if you look at the belt
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you look at the belt oh wow yes yeah very similar so i thought that was just really interesting that
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it's kind of the umo symbol right uh that showed up on this craft so almost like a squeeze
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yeah space and time yeah like a weird h or something right um okay so at this point uh you get to
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this place to stretch your legs um talk us through what happens next so yes we're walking out after
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purchasing and uh we're hearing that some people had saw um like a meteor or something that had come
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come down and asked if anybody had seen it we were like we saw something different but no we didn't
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see a meteor and they pointed out that it just went by so i'm not sure if this just came by that they
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witnessed why we were in the store or why we're parked as soon as we got to the gas station or maybe
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behind us when we were arriving at the gas station but um or if it or if it was the exact same thing we
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would notice but we we were my wife and i at the time we're still like what in the heck but we're
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we were trying not to create a scene as well so we were just kind of listening to what other people
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had seen and then we went back to the truck and we continued on a little bit further um it wasn't but
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a few more miles it said we arrived at our final destination and i was like we are not in college what is
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going on with this thing it took us to a very desolate um church and took us directly to the cemetery
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associated with the church and it said excuse me it said that we were we were at our final destination
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which is colorado springs colorado and we were at a cemetery and that's when we realized okay this is not
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working something happened with our gps something misguided us i had to power down the the gps and
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reprogram it re-put it in um re-put in the information and i believe we started using uh our phone
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um google maps kind of thing to make sure that our gps wasn't taking us some wild ever next you know
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direction yeah so we we used our phone with the gps just to make sure to you know have like a uh
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a backup you know so in case it took us off course again our regular phone compare it it can a the
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my phone says we keep going straight so this thing's telling us the turns of but that never happened
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they both worked in sync and we continued on um we got back on track we went through atlanta and we
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stopped you know to rest i was exhausted we found out that we had burnt through several several hours
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we had several several hours of missing time how many hours roughly three to four hours missing time
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and it would a normal trip like that from uh uh i want to say like uh hindsville area to atlanta would
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not take that long i mean that's an hour and a half maybe a lot hour and 45 minutes but we we had
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we had killed six hours seven hours of time and not realizing where that time had gone there was no way
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that we could have burned through that much time and so that's what was throwing us off and as soon as
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we got to atlanta the sun was up and i i was burnt out she was burnt out we stopped at a hotel right after
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we got through atlanta um i believe it was like magnus and something hotel and uh we tried to sleep
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i couldn't sleep very well she couldn't sleep very well either did you feel ill at all i didn't feel
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ill i didn't feel sick i just felt uneasy um uncomfortable i couldn't get comfortable i couldn't
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i mean i couldn't close my eyes for too long um so you know i was i was rested i felt rested enough
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um and i may have dozed off shortly you know for a short while and wake back up so i was just kind
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of in and out of getting rest and waking up getting rest and waking up um i i just couldn't sleep very
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comfortably and we couldn't stay there for two days so we had to get back on the road so i uh loaded up
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on coffee and that good old-fashioned caffeine energy to get back going and uh i made sure i was good to go
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and got the kids loaded up we got back on the road and drove further and kept on going and it was when
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we stopped and uh uh paduca kentucky i believe is what it was called uh to my memory i believe it was
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paduca kentucky at a motel six or hotel six we had animals with us so that's the best place to stop when
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you have animals and um we went up and i was ready just to crash out i was burnt out half asleep
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it was it was time for me to rack the heck out so i racked out i i fell asleep quickly
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i had woken up at some point uncoherently woke woken up and i i woke up standing in the bathroom with the
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light on and a pen in my hand and a uh receipt the hotel receipt um i was writing had squares and lines
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um now uncoherently i remember walking to the bathroom with the lights off just kind of feeling
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my way around to the bathroom and uh i remember turning on the light and i don't really remember
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writing the squares and lines but i when i had really woken up and come to i had realized i had
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written a bunch of squares and lines on the back of that receipt and i'm still holding the pen so i
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just wrote wtf on it yeah we all know what that means right so i that's a wtf moment yeah if ever
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there is one wtf definitely yes it was one of those okay wtf i didn't think much of it i threw it back with
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my paperwork and uh i i stumbled back to bed and went back to sleep i don't know why i got up i didn't
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need to use the restroom or anything i just gotten up and was in there doing it i went back to sleep
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i remember having some sort of uh dream that night but i i don't recall exactly what transpired in that
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dream at that time but i i remember we all woke up we got ready we got back on the road you know
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meanwhile i'm just kind of ignoring the fact that i had done that and i i remember why we're on the
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road i said i i was in the bathroom writing something down i'm i don't remember why or what caused me to
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do that i mentioned it to her she's like well you're weird so i don't know you know i'm military so i i have a
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a lot of weird analogies about things sure she just thinks i'm goofy but uh we get back on the road
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we don't think much of it we continue on um the rest of the trip just seemed um fairly normal uh
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to the most part um besides you know occasional accident or whatnot you know we're i'm just trying
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to drive safely and get us get us to where we're going and it's when we arrive um in colorado uh we
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stayed with a friend and um i i i wanted to get this get this put out as quickly as possible
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you mean you mean the report i wanted to report this as quickly as possible because when you spent
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so much time in the military and you have people come by and have you sign non-disclosure statements
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where you don't discuss it i wanted to report some i wanted to report this as quickly as possible
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before somebody would stop me before somebody told you you can't talk about this or someone told me
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because that's happened before yes many times many times okay so i wanted to get it out before somebody
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told me not to talk about it so i i reported as quickly as possible and i wrote down as much
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information as i could in a short period of time because in the process of getting to colorado it's
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it's time for us to find a place to live it's time to figure out where the kids are going to go to
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the school there's just several different other things going on so sure i reported it uh i believe i
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reported it to um uh the national ufo reporting center um i believe out of washington or new ford
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new ford new ford okay so i i reported it to them and let it go and then i went on to my daily life of
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getting things situated why we're there at our friends my wife and i both woke up in the middle of
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the night with an uneasy feeling and so we looked out our window um down into the backyard of and and
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and they're behind the backyard there's like an alleyway a road alleyway and then some more houses
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because this is where where our friend's house was it was on the side of the hill and so you have
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you know alley um vehicle sure you know if you're parked in the backyard you can you know use this little
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one lane paved road to to get in and out of and uh i had this uneasy feeling i look out the window uh
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looking down at that road and i spotted three dark figures um the shadow figures slowly moving uh toward
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um the the back of the house and stopped and looked like if they're observing me observing it
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and my wife climbs up and looks and she's like oh my god what is that and i was like i have no idea
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do you see it and he's like yes i see i see three and i was like absolutely she's seeing exactly what
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i'm seeing i'm not crazy you're not asleep i'm not saying yeah so and and so we were looking and we're
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like what in the hell and she's like that is making me feel extremely uncomfortable today i know it's
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i'm feeling the same thing it was kind of freaking us out they were observing us observing it and so i moved
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from the uh the uh bedroom into the dining room where the uh sliding glass doors were and i'm looking
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and i still see them but now they're they're right at the the sidewalk that that leads to that road
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and now they're in the sidewalk in the backyard looking up at me how tall um the middle one was a
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little bit taller the other two were just shorter just a little bit shorter but there was no
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distinct lines or um there was no distinct lines or um it was just dark shadows um without you know
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clear crisp lines right so it's like a dissipating sort of like shadow but you can tell that they were
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figures these were figures whoa but the there was no distinct you know uh line you know it was like a
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uh faded or blurred around the edges so this was freaking me out because my kids were in the living
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room right near that sliding glass door and i i went into dad defensive mode like all right
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some some about to go get some come get some you know i got you and so i'm i'm i'm i'm secretly
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nervous and and concerned a little bit frightened but i'm not going to show i'm afraid of anything i'm
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ready to i'm ready to fight so i my my men my uh aggression came out and i'm standing there and
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i'm and i'm trying to size them up you know with with my with my uh appearance uh i'm trying to
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display i'm ready to go i'm right i'm ready to throw down um but it's just the the the vibe that i
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kept getting is like there's nothing you can do there is nothing you can do so i mean i i just that's the
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vibe that i just kept getting from this so i shut the blinds and moved back closer to my kids away
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from the door and window and uh closed them because i didn't want to see them right up against the the
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glass doors that would freak me out i mean i would literally i don't know what i would done you know i
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don't know if i'd just go charging at the glass doors breaking the glass and attacking whatever it is
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sure i i didn't want to see that so i closed the blinds the the curtains and i moved back closer to
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my kids to be more protective of my kids um she was kind of in the hallway just kind of peering out
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but then she had went back in the room and kept looking through the window in the room and uh i
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waited there with the kids for a while and i remember after about five ten minutes i decided
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i need to muster up some courage and come open these blinds and so yeah i mustered up i mustered up all
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my aggression and and my willpower and i went over and threw the blinds open standing there and they
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weren't there uh my god thankfully they were not right outside those glass doors and so i'm looking
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around i'm looking down where i had seen them before they're nowhere to be found uh i look out the front
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window to see if they're out in the front they weren't out in the front it just vanished yeah but it
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was it was a moment uh that was that the only weird moment that happened right there yeah and that
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in our uh friend's house that we were staying at um we talked about her and with her in the morning
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and she's like oh that's weird i've never noticed things like that it was around this time that uh
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MUFON came by um after uh filing my report um uh i believe they wanted to they asked me permission to
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share with MUFON so they could come out and investigate and i said yeah absolutely so MUFON came
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out they uh they they checked out us uh physically they separated us um they wanted to look at our
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bodies to see if there were any uh we had i had some um strange markings on my i thought with injuries
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on my back on your back they did back in your neck uh my neck and my and my back area and um they
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didn't seem you mean puncture wounds i felt like there was puncture wounds yeah or some sort of
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there was red spots and puncture wounds that i felt they felt like to me on my back and my wife said
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they looked like little needle holes or something um when they came out and investigated they didn't
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they didn't find any they looked at them but they didn't they didn't seem too interested and and that
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there wasn't a pattern or anything consistent so that they just took pictures and moved on to other
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things and and they asked us what transpired separately so we both described what transpired
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separately um i'll keep in mind my wife and i we think completely different which is fine yeah you
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know we're all human beings i think there are enough similarities between the stories to like because
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the you know something that is said often about like so let's say the case in rua zimbabwe with the
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children at arielle school they all drew different things but if you know but if they all drew the same
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thing that's where you start getting suspicious because now you're following a narrative you're
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following some type of storyline whereas interpretation happens differently our experiences are unique and
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they're not exactly the same and that's often what we see with genuine encounters absolutely it's what
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makes us individuals that's right right so um they interviewed us separately um they checked her out
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you know physically and uh emotionally you know they spoke about it they had had her speak about what
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had had happened what transpired and they talked to me and they brought us back together they wanted
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to check out the truck they were out there uh i believe there was a doctor talking with me about
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some of the marks on me and uh he was just saying oh this is pretty normal blah blah blah you know and
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why they're out there i kept hearing noises from them and so i said hold on a minute and i walked out
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and they were like oh and they're just like freaking out oh my god you see this is going wild and
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it was the um um it was picking up radiation from from the truck well and magnetism from the truck
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and they seemed kind of excited about it so i was like okay okay okay that's weird i washed my truck
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i didn't think about you know i should keep the truck the way it is i didn't think about it at the
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time yeah i was never involved in investigating things like that sure you know with the military
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it's completely different i stay behind the radar i don't go anywhere and investigate anything yeah
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you're not allowed to i mean not necessarily allowed to i wasn't asked to oh you weren't asked
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to so it was more or less i mean i have investigated impact sites you know when we have uh rounds that
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impacted um where we're operating from uh from enemy you know targets artillery rockets things like that
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generally i would go and look at these impact sites and and do a back ass myth okay back ass myth is is
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where's the largest crater where's the smallest crater you you put sticks in with it within the
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two because usually when a mortar or rocket or artillery piece hits the dirt there's a smaller hole
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and it continues to travel before it explodes so then you have a bigger hole and a smaller hole and you
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you triangulate uh where that impact is and you take an azimuth of where that direction came from and
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it gives you a general idea of where it was fired from so yes we would we would investigate now
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sometimes i wouldn't go investigate some of these uh uh in these impact craters and uh determine things
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um other times we're you know involved other things usually there's other people went to
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you were not you were not investigating those things correct okay correct so um i understand how
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investigation works it's just this situation with my family completely completely utterly different with
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investigating i wouldn't have thought of not washing my vehicle but i'd wash my vehicle
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in the process of getting to colorado um it was dirty i needed to be able to see through my windshield
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and i needed to be able to you know my headlights needed to be work so uh we had to remove a lot of bugs
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and other things so i took it and washed it off i didn't think about that i only washed it once though
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which was good because i could have washed it several times only washed it once and it was still picking up
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radiation it was still picking up magnetism when they were out there you know a little bit excited
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yeah when i got out there and walked over their excitement turned to oh yeah this is this seems
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pretty normal so they had a magnometer and they were like they and the geiger counter counter counter
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and uh magnetometer yeah magnet yeah right that they were scanning around and the majority of this
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the majority of the magnetism and the radiation was um generally located or primarily located along the
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driver's side door uh the driver's side uh roof and the driver's side uh front hood but there was a lot
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that went all the way across the front hood and onto the uh passenger side panel sure quarter panel okay
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um but the the strongest readings were along the driver's side um which was kind of throwing me
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off a bit is that freaked you out a little bit hearing that it freaked me out a little bit but when
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i was walking over i noticed that when they noticed that i had walked over their excitement they immediately
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turned it way down and uh were hiding their their their excitement when i had walked over and was like
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i just witnessed y'all being quite excited about this and when i walk over oh this seems pretty normal i mean
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is picking up some stuff on both but it seems it seems pretty normal it was like their excitement
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just vanished when they realized that i was walking i was really close to him walking up to him suspicious
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right and so it just kind of threw me off a little bit and i was like okay don't want to share excitement
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with me okay so you don't want to um you want to remain uh professional and i get that i mean some
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people want to remain professional and not and not uh indicate too much excitement sure for you don't
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want to freak out false positive or something right you don't want to freak out the person you're
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interviewing so i understand those possibilities but uh yeah so so that took place um they collected uh
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some pictures and information from us and they told us they'd uh uh you know give it get us a report and
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get back to us at this point you had your receipt from the hotel still right uh you'd only written on it
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once you'd only have this one transmission we'll say right at this point at this point this it was
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only one transmission at that time okay it was a little while later um right before we left our
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friend's house that uh um i believe i had another one and um middle of the night again right middle of
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the night just waking up and and doing that do you do you remember this one is there is there one of
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them that you remembered early on or did they all did you always sort of wake up just writing no i
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before we even made this trip uh and i'm glad i had a conversation with my wife before this interview
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because she reminded me before we left and we were still in georgia and i was still working in georgia
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she she remembered a time where i had gotten up and was and i i was completely out of it on the bathroom
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floor and just yelling out or speaking out zeros and ones um i just kept them zero zero zero one one
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one zero zero zero zero one one you know and and a fast pace and she was like what in the hell are you
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and she was trying to wake me up she thought i was gonna die she said i was trying to scratch that when
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when she covered my mouth i tried to write them onto the door with my fingernail
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um she said it freaked her out and she was she went and got a receipt and was trying to write
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down the zeros and ones but i was saying them so fast that she couldn't keep up eventually she got
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my got me uh alert and i realized i was on the floor and i just got up and immediately went back to bed
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laid down went to sleep like nothing happened and she said that really freaked her out that was before
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anything before we even went on our trip so whoa um i'm glad she reminded me that uh because i almost
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forgot about that and i tend to forget things sometimes but uh there's just so much when you
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have so much things happening to you throughout your life it's hard to remember you know you're not really
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hard but you sometimes forget some of those things that have happened and somebody reminding you of it
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is is quite helpful and beneficial you're not um well i mean first of all were you familiar with
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binary at any point of your life were you you weren't working in computer science or anything you
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weren't no part of anybody who's who would be familiar to that extent with binary code for any
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reason whatsoever no no not our military computers are completely different they don't not operate on
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binary yeah um so i was really unfamiliar with binary and i didn't understand what binary was
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until later on when it was brought up to me by dr horace drew yeah and and that binary and we'll get
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into that in a second once we once we talk about some more of the transmissions that happened but that
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binary is special because it's not it's not standard binary right and so that's what makes this even
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more novel and strange is the fact that you had seemingly invented a new form of binary that's wild
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yes uh he he found that and my um i'm sure you have some images we can pull up and show people
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uh some of these are are are empty boxes and some of them are solid boxes are filled in yep and then we
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had some thicker lines and some thinner lines or thin lines yep that were and and some of my dreams
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that i was writing down and and i also realized that when i was having these they began to evolve over
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time so the first time that i was in that hotel on our way to colorado springs they were moving fast
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so in order for me to keep up i was just doing the boxes and lines as quickly as possible as that was
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seeing them and in my mind's eye things were a little bit darker all around but they were appearing
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as like this uh blue um color so you remember this happening you remember seeing this i remember seeing
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it later on later on so it took a few days to for me to have a a dream or or some more sleep time where
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i'm i'm remembering and then the next day i'm waking up and say okay i remember seeing some blue uh boxes
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and lines coming across my face like this you know just kind of like reading like everything's just
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not black but everything's darker around me where i could still see that i'm in a room and objects in
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that room they're just darker and these blue boxes and lines are coming by my face so the first time
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they happened they were coming fast it was difficult for me to keep up i couldn't shade them all in or make
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them thicker it was just get the boxes and lines down and so that's what i did the first time yeah
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the ones after had slowed down enough where i could fill in the the dark boxes and and leave the
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light boxes and i had more time to actually put them down it was it was simple i could look anywhere
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i didn't have to look in front of me or anything i could look directly at the paper and they're
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happening right in my peripherals from right to left just moving slow and so i'm able to do the boxes and
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lines nice and simple easier that way now over time they they began to morph into uh um lowercase letters
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and capital letters and then eventually into more or less like just verbal messages you know in my head
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before we get to the verbal messages right um let's take this one step at a time because this is uh
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absolutely there is a lot of information here um so first off
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the subsequent messages after the first one how far apart were those i see here we have
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october we've got november november again november then december so this is happening really frequently
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at this point absolutely how frequent after that late june encounter up until november how how many
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transmissions do you estimate you've had a couple per month i would say um maybe three or four
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in a month at times other times maybe just one a month or none yeah and then the following months
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two or three it would there was no pattern okay and that's one thing i was trying to notice is is
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there a pattern there was never is this something i ate yeah and i'm not taking credit for this at all
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because she's she's beautiful she's amazing linda moulton how um i had spoken with you know shortly after
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after move on and she indicated that this is important because i told her i had some messages
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that i hadn't been writing down she she indicated that it's probably very important and i need to have
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a journal next to me so that i'm able to write these things down and so she's the one that gave me she's
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the brilliant mind behind i need to write these things down when they happen date them and and
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and keep a record good for her great on her yeah i mean that she she she helped me with that and she
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deserves all the credit for that because that was that was an amazing idea i would have never thought
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of that so that's what i started to do i i started writing these things down when they happened um
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and and to to also to linda's credit she was the one who discovered jim penniston's binary code
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the rendalsham forest incident in england 1980 where u.s air force officer jim penniston said he
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walked up to a landed craft covered in strange symbols and then lost time years later it was
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linda moulton howe who took a closer look at the notes penniston had been carrying around in his old
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notebook and realized that what looked like nonsense was actually 16 pages of structured binary that could
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be decoded into english now both of these read cold and technical like instructions instead of
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sort of conversational english and they had very similar wording including the words humanity
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continuous protection and protect advance and advancement coordinates monitor monitoring warning warn
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beware also the words origin transmission message planetary survival all of these words overlap within
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these two cases and in both cases the crafts were described as featuring sharp geometric symbols
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and some of these symbols as you can see here are almost identical so right for those who are not
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familiar with uh the rendalsham forest case but in 1980 jim penniston was uh you know encountered this black
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triangular craft had etchings on it much like the ones that were observed by you and your wife upon
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touching the craft was then shot with some type of download if you want to call it or whatnot and had
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subsequently written down 16 pages of ones and zeros and had not talked about it had not mentioned it and it
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wasn't until i think linda and him were doing an interview and he had his notepad with him
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that she kind of shoulder surfed and was like hey jim what's that and he went oh this i don't know i just
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wrote a bunch of incoherent ones and zeros down like after it happened and then come to find that there's this
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incredible message attached to you know that binary sequence um and we have it here just for the audience um
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um and and this is yours there's another or is it here well i'll pull it up on the screen here so we can
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right like you said you have a lot of information here yeah yeah yeah um but essentially you know um
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exploration of humanity there was like this date there were these coordinates the coordinates led to all
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all sorts of uh significant geographical sites around the globe eyes of our eyes uh 8100 like
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which is i guess a year or something and um for the continuous um what is it the something the
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continuous of humanity the verbiage was very similar to what was eventually found in yours which i found
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uh very interesting but so we have this binary code uh that jim pennison has we have linda molten how
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now seeing that oh something similar might be happening to you you might be getting some type
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of transmission right and so she tells you hey write this down this is important now after writing all of
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this down what happens when you give it to linda she she looks at it and she goes this this is the
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amazing part so i i'm i'm she's asking for some of this and so i'm i'm taking pictures you know of of
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my notebook and i'm sending them over to her and she's looking at it and she's she knew she was going
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to have to reach out to some people and see if they if somebody can find a way to uh decipher this and
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decode it and at some point she reached out to um dr horace drew did linda at one point did she not feel
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like this is incoherent like there's no because she tried to decode it as standard binary and with
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like no avail correct yeah yeah so after that you might think to yourself oh this crap i thought this
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might be binary right and it isn't uh well it's not standard binary not standard binary it's it's it's
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quite odd dr horace drew a geneticist whom you may remember from our interview with peter curry he
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was a doctor that did the tests on peter's hair samples dr drew took several weeks to decode these
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messages and that's because they weren't simple binary this was a form of layered binary known as
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multiplex which allows multiple messages to be sent simultaneously let me explain so binary is
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essentially the simplest way to represent information using only two states on and off everything is built
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from these two opposites working in patterns by arranging enough on and off states together
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you can create letters images sounds videos computers use binary because their electronic parts naturally
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switch between these two conditions making it the most reliable way for machines to think but this
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novel or new multiplex system works by embedding three separate binary messages inside a single set of
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symbols so the first message is read using shape alone where squares represent zero and lines represent
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one the second message is hidden in the shading of only the squares where filled squares are zero and
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empty squares are one the third message is encoded in the shading of only the lines where thick shaded lines
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represent zero and thin lines represent one each layer operates independently allowing three completely
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different messages to be transmitted simultaneously within the same visual pattern this was then sent to
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dr horace drew i just want to give the audience a bit of a reference of who dr horace drew you might
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be familiar with him because he is also the one who ended up testing uh peter curry's hair and did those dna
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tests which we peter curry who we had in the show recently so a brilliant mind somebody who is definitely
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an outside of the box thinker right um you know a bit of a bit of a brilliant person um so shout out to
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dr drew here and to dr drew's credit how many months did it take for dr drew to come back to you and say
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i cracked it that's the thing he's a brilliant mind it didn't take months yeah it took from my understanding
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it took him several weeks yep um but he did not mention months very brilliant person yep great person
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to talk to he he's he's open-minded and he's a really good listener and he offers a lot of good advice
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so it took him several several weeks um before he began to unravel things and then he he looked into it
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further and further and then realized that these were um if you pull up the images again and you
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show the boxes and lines you will see that it's not pages upon pages i'm having i'm having dreams of
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just you know like paragraph versions of these because normally if you have binary it's so after
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learning about binary through dr drew um and uh looking some stuff up on the internet uh zeros and
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ones you you you could have eight to ten pages of nothing but zeros and ones and the messages is
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short few sentences or a short paragraph whereas this is short and and um message but the information is
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quite extensive so that's what was throwing me off and i was like okay well i just looked up how binary
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works but this doesn't make sense with binary how how come there's why is it that they're so short in
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messages but the information is is as much there's more information involved in it than that and it's
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because he determined that there was several layers or multiplexing going on and i would like to think
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that it's more or less like a dimensional or cube form whereas you have boxes and lines as one
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particular message is almost like zeros and ones then you have dark squares and and light squares that
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are telling another message and then you have dark lines and thin lines that are telling another message
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and then there's i believe he found some capitalization capitalization which are providing
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other messages and message within a message within a message within a message providing um a ton more
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information than the mess than than the boxes and lines together multi he called multiplexing dr drew ends up
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uh decoding this which as mentioned as you know you guys just saw the little explanation here but
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this is a brand new form of binary code now the message that we get once we decipher this
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is first of all not so dissimilar from jim pennison's message but man there's a lot to digest in these first
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messages now you have many messages but these first few ones um
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um i'm just gonna go ahead and read them out first and then we can sort of talk about them and talk
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about how you felt when you know when you got these
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so june 30th this is the next day this is in the motel or you know the following day when you guys stopped
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um on your way to colorado right um continuous protection of humanity 49.27 north 11.5 east
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expose hidden knowledge to all citizens advancement imperative for planetary survival beware of orion 1350.3
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and z reticuli 39.170 avoid and signal in brackets messages sent so that's the first one
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there's a lot to unpack even on the first one so can you tell me what the coordinates would represent
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here so we're going to break down the first one um based on the information that i received back from
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linda malton howell yeah and uh dr horace drew who was able to to translate these and from what i
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remember um linda had linda and dr horace drew found a location for those the that that grid coordinate
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and which ended up being in germany somewhere um i want to if i remember correctly it was uh
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it was some location or field near nuremberg i believe if i'm not mistaken
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um what was uncovered is that i believe in the 1500s or 16 or 1400s 1500s yeah there was a wood carving
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from an incident that happened there a mass sighting the coordinates 49.27 north and 11.5 east fall inside
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a historically active region of southern germany tied to unexplained aerial events cold war intelligence
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and recurring crop formations the location sits within the same corridor as the 1561 nuremberg mass
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sighting now this mass sighting was a mass daylight event witnessed by hundreds of residents of nuremberg
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on the morning of april 14 1561. at dawn people reported seeing dozens of strange objects in the sky
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described as spheres cylinders crosses and rod shaped forms moving rapidly and appearing to collide as if
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engaged in aerial battle some of the objects were said to fall toward the ground outside the city
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after which a large black spear or arrow shaped object reportedly appeared overhead the event was
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recorded in a woodcut and pamphlet by hans glazer who framed it as a frightening sign from the heavens
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a mass sighting from a lot of different individuals where there was some sort of uh um aerial combat
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that was taking place and in this woodcut you could see that one of the one of these aerial crap were
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shot down and was smoking on the ground from what i remember from from looking at the image and that
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there were they were like spears and uh rods and orbs that were i guess in some sort of conflict
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that the people were witnessing which i found uh odd um that that was in a message that i had written down
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almost non-coherently in a hotel room bathroom standing there almost in my birthday suit yeah you
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know and and this just came to me it is and so you can imagine what that does to your your mind being
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told that you wrote something down and it has a you you don't know what these you know boxes and lines
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mean but somebody's able to decode it and it's a clear message you sent that out not knowing anything
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like not knowing if it's binary not knowing anything whatsoever i sent i gave that to her
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thing good luck with this yeah it's probably gibberish good luck this is going to be nothing
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and it comes back with an actual message an actual comprehensive message that just it just threw me
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back how does that did that terrify you that would scare sorry part of my friendship scared the
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shit out of me it kind of did and you know if uh you reached out to linda and you talk with her
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and uh she would identify the conversations that we have over the phone yeah it it kind of freaked
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me out a little bit and she she she will be honest to say that yeah i it brought me to tears a few times
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um it uh it shaken me and my core quite a bit um how did your wife handle that
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i i can't speak for her she was supportive but at the same time freak her out as well it it made her
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seriously think or rethink things in her head um it affected her as well um
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that what i wrote down in that hotel bathroom was it's hard to it's hard to comprehend or it's hard uh
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it's difficult to digest the information that's being told to you you know to understand that you
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had um the gibberish that you put down turned out to be something uh much more profound and i think that
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that's what was hard for me to to digest but it just gets worse or it gets better however you want
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to look at things everyone's everyone's different it progresses it progresses definitely um so within this
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uh first message we're also given coordinates or what seems like distances between uh earth and
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orion and then earth and zeta reticuli because zeta reticuli happens to be 39 point some light years
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away from earth is that something you knew no i did not know i didn't know what what that was when when
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they were talking about the 39 point something you know i was like what what is that miles because
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that's not very far and then they're saying no this is more than likely uh light years and i was
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like light years how far is a light year i mean i don't know what this is i mean i know there's there's
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speeds associated with with um how how fast light travels from point a to point b um and in a earth
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a year but uh i yeah i i really didn't and so were you ever like because this is just so wild like to
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anyone out there listening like you you you go from you know there's no there's no two ways to
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interpret this information no there's not it's either you choose to accept it or you choose to ignore it
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but there's no fitting this into any type of model right there's it doesn't fit anywhere you're you're given
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clearly um a message through some type of code and that message turns out to be this seeming this this
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warning of beings or or at least a star system of orion and zeta reticuli and then it tells you to avoid the messages
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sent or maybe avoid sending messages or right and then looking up the nuremberg woodcut that's right
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was also like for me it was like that's part of the warning too i suppose i mean but what's happening
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in this woodcut what's going on what's what's transpiring yeah we can almost assume like because
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you said there was like a recovery or something on that on that woodcut right there's like smoke plume
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and there's something on the ground um do you think that's what they're referring to when they say expose
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hidden knowledge to all citizens and with that coordinate i don't want to interpret what
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someone else thinks or or or comes to the conclusion of but i i take it as a warning i i perceive it as a warning
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others may perceive it in a different different light but uh that to me is is is just it's a little bit shocking
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um also going back to the zeta reticuli and uh uh what was the other one orion orion um when you
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when i looked up the light years it it wasn't with a point it for you know when i looked it up it just
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said it's roughly you know there you know what is it 39 point something yeah 39.17 when you look it up
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it just says 39 you know well what is the 0.7 what what does that mean what's the what why is there a point in a
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like what is that near the star but not on the start and i mean like that's what that's what was throwing
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me off a little bit it was like what what what is exactly at that at that point you know what i mean
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okay now once we grab the uh let's say subtext of this code you start to
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you're able to grab um different letters from here and there that are all capitalized let's say
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and and put them together and this is part of that code system that allows you to do that when you do
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that on this first uh transmission you get check all ai check all ai yeah now 2015 we didn't have ai
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it wasn't really a thing nobody was even talking about it really you know maybe in a sci-fi book or
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something or we had thought of the concept of ai but we had not there was no public you know use of ai
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by any means right um i find that to be quite alarming absolutely and what would be the benefit
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to expose hidden knowledge to i guess get us all in the same playing field i mean i i that part i i've
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really been thinking about um a lot because it just stood out to me and so i started thinking about it
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it was like well if we're if we're keeping it under wraps we're keeping it under um
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dark projects or uh um groups that keep it really under wraps what are they benefiting from it other
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than you know technology military technology kind of stuff yeah we want to uh um be able to defend
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ourselves against adversaries right so when you have these dark projects i'm just i'm just going off my own
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opinion here um nothing per se but when you have these dark projects and they're they're working to
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reverse engineer or um use the information to uh better military advancements where we're able to
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um have the upper hand per se and and and conflicts with uh our neighbors we want to be able to have the
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technology to be able to defend ourselves i mean of course that's what just about every country does
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do they not i believe so when i think about that message and i think about uh how far have we come
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with these things happening behind closed doors and limited amount of eyes looking at them and
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scientists looking at them we're not going to progress as fast that way we're not going to be able to
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um evolve with the right speed that we need to be evolving at so maybe i interpret that as maybe these
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shouldn't be dark projects maybe they should be a little bit more open and no you can't you can't uh discuss
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weapons to the public you don't want to do that because you don't want people going haywire with
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all the information and creating all kinds of chaos for everybody so yeah some things definitely need to
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be under wraps however a lot of things could be open you know maybe our universities and colleges can
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start programs and education to you know better ourselves you know where we have more students uh studying
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studying this type of stuff and have it in a more open environment where it's not so shadow shadowed
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advance us in our in our transportation systems advances and energy advances and lots of different
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things that we could use this technology for and so maybe that's what uh i believe that's indicating
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you know of course we don't want to open source it we don't want um um a random civilian just
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building bombs and stuff out of uh or any hostile adversary for or hostiles yeah yeah okay great point
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and yes i do think that obviously and it says here advancement imperative for planetary survival which i
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think is an interesting choice of words it's not human survival it's not um alien survival it's planetary
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survival which scares me a little bit because i think you know i always think that yeah okay we
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eradicate ourselves the planet will be just fine in fact it'll probably be better off you know eventually
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yeah but planetary survival is interesting absolutely and that and i believe that goes back to you know
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nuclear weapons that's right it's very destructive it's a very we we've done some very destructive things
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i agree to ourselves and to our planet uh we we don't take a consideration the uh the uh environment
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um and and the impacts that uh uh it would have on our environment so i do believe that uh we need to
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be a little bit more cautious when when we're developing things and uh consider you know our ecosystem and
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life because we're not the only ones here you know yep and that is echoing exactly what every
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experiencer has ever been told by their abductors um this is not uncommon that they also
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you know clearly believe it's imperative that we take care of this place for whatever reason for our
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survival for theirs uh for just the you know a mutual benefit right and it could just have a double meaning
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that's right could this mean that we are getting out of hand and uh we might find ourselves threatened
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by uh an and uh a foreign entity or foreign uh a foreign adversary you know that's not from our our planet
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so um yes it could it could have several different meanings behind it all citizens as well this is everyone yeah um
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okay so this is the first already we're seeing the technical sort of advanced version of this binary
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come into come into play here as multiple codes this is like some da vinci code stuff this is like a puzzle
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it's insane um and you love puzzles i love this is absolutely a puzzle this is my favorite puzzle ever
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right um now we get into uh the second message now let me pull this up here let me get back here to
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where i was the second message october uh this is october to january 2016 now there are multiple messages
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here that combine to make this right and i'm just going to go ahead and read the first message not the
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decoded versions because there are again sub messages within the messages right um this is
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where oh by the way before i actually get to this dr dr drew pointed out something really really
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fascinating with the crop circles oh yes right so and this relates mostly to that first message if we look
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at specifically there is a crop circle there are um a few crop circles but there was the well-known
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um arecibo reply so in 2001 a crop formation appeared inside the chill bolton observatory that many
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believe mirrors a reply to the 1974 arecibo radio message the symbolic signal designed by frank drake
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with help of carl sagan and linda saltzman sagan and transmitted from the arecibo observatory
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that original signal described basic human biology dna and our location in the solar system and the chill
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bolt in formation appeared to mimic the same digital structure but obviously with some key differences
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including biology and where they were located in their star system one year later in 2002 another
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unsettling formation appeared at crabwood showing the face of what many described as a gray alien beside
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a disk of spiral binary revealing the warning beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises
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much pain but still time believe there is good out there we oppose deception conduit closing then in
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2015 a massive binary style formation appeared again near turin echoing the same warning style layout and
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reinforcing the pattern people had already noticed along with the latin phrase timio et ferrentes i fear those
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who bear gifts um so in 2002 there's this message that pops up with this beautiful work of art of
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what seems to be like a gray alien three dimensions yeah it has a pupil right right which normally you
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don't see and we'll get to that in a second right right right um which i found very interesting you then
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have this massive circle that has all these dots that seems to be some type of encoded message and then you
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have these three sort of lights that kind of represent orion's belt which again for many reasons very
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fascinating and the message translates to beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises
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and it shows the orion constellation and it shows these sort of grays or whatever
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and now we have your message which says beware of orion now there's two things here that say beware and
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they're both picturing orion i don't think that's a coincidence i think that's
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that's what's so confusing for me is there's so many similarities with so many different things that
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they require more uh in depth to look yeah and so that's that's where i get intrigued is is how
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how so many different things line up with others it's it's it really throws you back it lines up with
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what bob lazart was talking about too with you know when he was briefed in those documents it said that the
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craft and the beings the kids as he refers to them as were from zeta reticuli oh wow yeah so and then
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obviously zeta reticuli pops up the first time we ever hear about it not the first time we hear about
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it but the first time we see a diagram was from betty and barney hill okay was uh betty hill was shown
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this diagram of like this star map and she drew it and then it was lined up years later once we discovered
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this binary star system um that it it kind of matched zeta uh the zeta constellation kind of
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perfectly oh wow so there is something really important about that i don't know what it is but
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you know clearly it seems like we're warned about it right all right this brings us to our next message
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and i'm sorry i'm droning on here but i really want to drive it home to the viewers i i there's a
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lot of information here oh absolutely and so i'm sorry if i'm taking up a lot of the airspace guys i'm
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just kind of running you through this i could talk for hours yeah this is endlessly fascinating to me
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right so the next message here reads as follows imminent threat soon upon earth's leaders and
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civilizations right there's a bit of a deviation there yeah deviation we can assume it's civilizations
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expose and disband hidden knowledge to all citizens once again employ safe and controlled joint study to
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all minds progression imperative for joint for combined survival
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so in this particular text one word that stands out to me right up top is the word imminent
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now where have we heard that before right lou elizondo's yes do you think um that that title is a
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reference to this in some way i'm unsure i mean it's it's one word um i'm sure it's been used many times
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by others i don't know if uh it came to him do you think lou was aware of this i'm not sure if he was um
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that i don't know um i i worked with linda uh pretty exclusively for quite a while um so i mean
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there's a possibility that uh um he may have known about it or he may not have um i i really don't
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i really don't know i mean it's just one word true um but it's impactful you know it's that's another
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similarity you know kind of thing yeah so i i'm a little bit curious but you know one's only to assume
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yeah and then again expose and disband hidden knowledge to all citizens again all citizens
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expose hidden knowledge and this time they put disband in there as well expose disband yeah so
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yeah when i think about that you know i have a military mind you know and we don't want
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we don't want to put out weapon systems to all citizens you know because we don't want
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all civilians building weapon systems in their garages and creating chaos and we have we you know
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there's there's many incidents where somebody's mind just snaps and uh they want to shoot up a
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mall or school or something so yeah um i believe there there there needs to be some
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some uh restraint on some things so so yeah i think that falls into the category of disband
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right yeah yeah that would make a lot of sense you don't want to expose all of that
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but what can be beneficial for you know for us is transportation
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um other things such as that employ safe and controlled joint study to all minds once again
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safe and controlled yeah that makes sense to me progression imperative for combined survival what
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do you think they mean by that so in my mind when i think of combined survival is maybe um we're not the
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only country that has black projects and study things i'm sure there's a there's a uh race
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uh involving behind this that's kind of in the back in the shadows you know um like a nuclear race
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type deal or a techno technological race just just like a race to the moon right a race for nuclear weapons
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a race for you know i'm sure there's a race going on in the background you know um to to develop these
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these uh systems and be able to travel quicker faster and get from point a to point b quicker
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more effectively so i'm sure there's i'm pretty sure there's there's some background stuff going on
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that uh other countries are doing as well and so maybe i think that's a reference to
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maybe some of these things uh should should be brought to light is that an educated guess
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i'm just an educated guess you know that's just my military minds of thinking okay so yeah i mean
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we have united nations for a reason you know um why not why not uh all of us come together and start
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sharing some information for some of these things not all of these things but for some of these things
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yeah trash and nukes too while we're at it let's get rid of those things because apparently they're just
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causing nothing but chaos we all agreed we're not going to use them we can't use them it was a why i have
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them exactly let's get rid of them all and let's focus on other things here here 100 000 likes in
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this video and we'll get rid of the nukes uh absolutely no nukes no nukes i think we can all
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agree i think i think i'm on board with that one that's something you know you'd be left right you
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could be wherever you want let's get rid of those things man those things are trash um
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okay now we get into in this paragraph there are some there are some things that stand out
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And the first one that stands out to me is the word Eisenhower.
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That's kind of crazy.
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Um, what do you know about Eisenhower?
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I know very little, but it was before my time, so.
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I know he was a military man before him, prior to becoming a president.
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So, um, that, that's about as much knowledge I have on Eisenhower.
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And then under that there's Majestic.
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What do you know about that?
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Yeah, I Googled that.
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There's, I guess there's some, uh, other things going on with, uh, I believe it was like Majestic 12 or something.
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Some sort of secret government, um, program.
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I don't know anything about that.
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Um, I'm sure it probably does exist.
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Maybe it's something somebody thought of.
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But, uh, I have no knowledge.
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So when you got that information back from Dr. Drew, did he fill you in on what Majestic was?
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Or did you like take it upon yourself to like, I'm going to Google this and figure it out?
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He, he brought it up to me and kind of gave me a rundown of what, what it entails.
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And then I did a Google search after and, and tried to get some of my own information and my own interpretations.
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But, uh, I, I really, I can't speak upon that because I don't know much about it besides what I've read, you know, through, uh, social media and Google things like that.
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And, and what I've learned from others.
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So I'm not really familiar with, um, that stuff.
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It is interesting that in the first part where it says imminent threat soon upon earth's leaders and civilizations expose and dismantling hidden knowledge to all citizens.
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In that you find the word Eisenhower.
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So we have like a specific reason Eisenhower was brought up with these two first lines, the imminent threat, the leaders of civilizations, obviously.
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And then hidden knowledge, expose all hidden knowledge to, to maybe some message for Eisenhower or to let you know that, Hey, he has the answer.
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Like he was given this information.
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Like maybe he was part of, maybe he was part of Majestic 12.
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Oh, that's 19, yeah.
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1954, 52 or 50, I think 52, maybe 54, but I think 52.
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Um, there is a document that came out, um, the Eisenhower briefing.
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Which allegedly he was briefed by, I think it was a general twining or might've been forestall.
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Uh, they basically briefed him about crash that had happened at Roswell and multiple others and kind of told him we need to band together and create some type of, uh, group that can disseminate this information to the public and then can control, you know, what we found.
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And so they've got together 12, like the, uh, most powerful minds in, you know, various sectors from sciences to, uh, biology and everything in between politics and whatnot.
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And, uh, formed this Majestic 12, uh, so to speak.
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And, and even we see, you know, the Majestic, uh, verbiage or at least abbreviation still being used in 1989 by Bob Lazar on his patch where it said, you know, Majestic clearance or MAJ.
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And so then on the second part, we have employee safe and controlled joint study to all minds progression imperative.
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And there we have the word Majestic.
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And then I L, oh, that's a little bit later, I think, or is that here?
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No, I L I, which could be 52.
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Uh, and, and that 52 was like the DC flyover, you know, and, and if you look at even the, are you familiar with, uh, Beatrice V. Royale?
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That name doesn't ring a bell.
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So she, brilliant astronomer.
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Uh, um, she basically had a peer reviewed paper recently showing these transient lights that appeared on these plates that date back to 1952.
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And when comparing them with today's skies, those lights aren't there.
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And so, and then they found out this happens like in, in the earth's shadow or whatever, like basically proving that there are these, without a shadow of a doubt, there are reflective.
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Objects prior to us having satellites in space that were there.
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And we have proof of that.
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And she just, uh, put out this peer reviewed paper, which is incredible and pretty much disclosure in my opinion.
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Um, but what, what I found interesting is that during the flyover, the exact day of the flyover, you have these transients in the sky there as well.
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So another, that's pretty wild.
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Another fun connection.
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Lots of connections.
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Dude, this is blowing my mind right now.
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And going back to the 12.
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That's, it's so wild to think about that.
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The government behind closed doors are, have 12, 12 individuals, um, deciding things for us that we have no oversight of.
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That's pretty scary too.
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When I think about it.
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That number's probably grown.
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It's probably, probably not 12 anymore.
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Um, probably close to 27.
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Making decisions for everybody.
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I'm hoping that they make good decisions.
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I hope they make good decisions for us, but, uh.
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We didn't elect them.
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We didn't elect them.
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We get, we get to the next message here and we're going to pace ourselves through these if that's fine.
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And then it says space in parentheses.
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And I don't know if that's just a liberty from, um, from Dr. Drew, but embrace this vessel threat.
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And then in brackets 12 and then L wise and light years.
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Ike's embedded citizens are ready.
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Ike being another reference to Eisenhower.
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Uh, and his embedded citizens are ready.
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And then a bunch of ones.
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One, one, one, one, one, one.
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What do you make of that message?
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Most of it's pretty baffling to me.
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It could be interpreted in several different ways.
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You got to keep in mind that this is what I'm writing when I wake up.
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You know, so I'm, I'm not fully coherent.
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I'm going to waking up to this and writing it down.
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So it is still throwing me back that, you know, I'm, I'm half awake and writing these
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things down and they're making, uh, they, they, they have meaning behind them.
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And so I'm still, it's, it's, it's a lot to digest, you know, for one person to digest
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So, I mean, I, I look at things and, and I have to do it in small sections.
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And really think about things in small sections to really have a thought on it.
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And some of it is just, you know, it's just kind of out of my realm, to be honest with
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So some of this, some of this is, I, I don't know what the meaning that is behind it.
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I just kind of take it as it is.
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That's so wild, man.
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You know, it'd be one thing if I was sitting here with somebody who's like, you know,
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on discord all day talking about aliens and like, you know, doing, doing research like
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me or something, but you're, you're none of that.
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You're not readily involved in any of that.
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I, I, you know, I relatively live a pretty private life.
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I do play a phone game and I do have a discord with associated with that phone, phone game.
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But, you know, my, my discord that I'm on, um, are, are roughly about, you know, my King's
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Clash of Clans or whatever it is.
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You know, it's, it's, it's my, it's my, you know, the Alliance that I'm part of and we
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I mean, you're not talking about aliens with anybody.
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I mean, uh, it's not a common conversation piece.
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You know what I mean?
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Um, yeah, we share things and vacations and things that we go on, uh, people buying new
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car, new truck and they discuss things like that or, but generally we, we, we discuss things
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within our little group and what we're doing on the game and how do it improve and beat
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And you're not a UFO researcher is what I'm asking.
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That's, you know, that's, that's something that needs to be made clear here.
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You've maybe become somewhat of a researcher because I think anyone would.
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And, and over, you know, um, after this, then yes, I start, I start to watch some more
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videos and try to, to try to get some clarity and understanding with what's happening with
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me, um, and, and, and look for, you know, people who have gone through some similar thing to
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help me, um, identify myself with other, other, other people, you know, out there.
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Cause I, I, you, you kind of feel alone and, uh, in the dark, you, you feel very singled
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I guess in my mind frame, I feel very singled out.
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I feel alone, but I know I'm, you know, just after a little bit of research that there,
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other people have gone through some similar things and that, that provides a little bit
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comfort, you know, for me to deal with.
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Um, but in the beginning, yeah, Linda will tell you it's, it's a little bit scary.
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Um, I w I felt a little scared, you know, in the, in the beginning part.
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And it takes a lot, it takes a lot of courage for me to say that because I, I'm usually,
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I'm not afraid of anything.
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I'll, you know, I don't care how big the guy is.
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I might, I might get my butt whipped, but he's going to feel me the next day.
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You know what I mean?
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I'm this, that type of person.
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But when it comes to things like this, where things you don't have any control over, uh,
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that's what I guess that was brings out my, my, uh, my fear a little bit.
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Something else is kind of in control a little bit.
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I mean, it's all pretty self-evident here.
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Um, embrace this vessel threat.
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I don't know what that means.
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Journey 12 light years.
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Your guess is good as mine.
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You know, might be something 12 light years away.
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Something's on its way.
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When I think of this as there, there may be some other vessel out there that's monitoring
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And, um, when it, when it describes threat, you know, um, that, that tells me that, uh,
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we, we, we could be threatened or we could have a threat, you know, at some point.
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When I think about that, it also, um, brings back, um, some thought that we need to evolve
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Why do we need, why do we need to advance and evolve quicker?
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Um, and is it because there's a threat?
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Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot to wrap your brain around.
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I mean, there's the word threat there.
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There's, there's definitely a word threat.
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It's not, no avoiding that.
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Um, and Ike's embedded citizens already.
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I don't even know what to do with that.
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Is that, are we talking about hybrids here?
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Are we talking about some type of genetically altered beings that live among us that he
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Like, I mean, it's, you can extrapolate so much from, you know.
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Um, and then in red and blue, you have MAG-12 and then CIA and the CIA, you know, um, happens
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to be in the Ike's embedded citizens already.
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And that's where the, so that's maybe where the, the government maybe have created some
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sort of a group or organization around that time.
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And maybe the CIA was involved in it.
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You know, I mean, we don't know.
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I mean, the FBI, CIA could have been involved in it in the beginning and it morphed into
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something different.
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You know, which ended up being MAG-12 or, uh, a whole different other, you know, shadowed
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And finally, for this bit of transmission, because there are many more.
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We'll get into a few of them.
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Uh, but right now for, to end this one, it says Royal Emurther warning, Emurther in capital,
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expose foreign technology to all evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
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Expose foreign technology to all evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
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First of all, Emurther seemed to be the race here that we're dealing with.
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Royal Emurther warning.
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Emurther is confusing me because I've never heard of this before.
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And I, I had to do a lot of Google researching to see what I can come up with, with what Emurther
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And, uh, the only thing that I was able to find out, and this was the help of Linda was
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like at some point in our past, um, we had met with some sort of Emurther, um, some sort
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of alien species, um, that referred to themselves as Emurther.
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I, I'm not sure because, you know, if, if they're, if they're, uh, an advanced alien species, I, I think the times of Royalness would, would have been way in the past, you know, like they've advanced way beyond that.
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Doesn't, I mean, we still have Royal families, you know, that are living on, you know, different countries and such.
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So, I mean, yeah, we still have those aspects of things.
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You think that would be done away with.
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You think that would be gone, but, uh, you know, um, but also perceives, or maybe it, the, the Royal was like some sort of symbology or meaning that it's, it should be taking more seriously.
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You know, like maybe this is a metaphor for something more serious.
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Out to taking like, uh, higher ups within the.
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Of, of importance, you know, of, uh, this particular species, um.
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Or how they determine things.
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Or maybe, you know, leaders, you know, within their, or within their, their, uh.
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Yeah, maybe it's just how they refer to.
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Their species, yeah.
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Um, but we do still use the term majestic, which is very close to.
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Royalty, you know, her majesty.
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And so that's still.
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I think there's a lot of symbology.
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There, there is some type of like tie into, to this.
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So, I mean, that is very enigmatic to say the least.
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Now I'd like to get into, we're gonna, we're gonna segue.
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From, from this little ditty here.
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And all of these incredible messages that were deciphered.
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That, you know, you had.
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Simply doodled on a paper, followed by WTF.
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And then, and then they got deciphered into this incredible message here that, you know,
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if, if, if it has any significance is.
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Extremely concerning.
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Uh, if not just for a wake up call.
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But can be, you know, I mean, it said the last paragraph says evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover.
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What are we talking about here?
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What, what do you, what's your sense on that?
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That would be a little scary to me.
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Because, uh, you know, we, we'd like to live our lives comfortably and go to work, come home, spend time with our family.
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So, anything that involves any kind of takeover, uh, that, that's a, that's a warning to me.
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That, I take that as a warning some, some type of way.
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And, uh, yeah, uh, I don't want to be taken over.
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I don't think anyone would, would want to be taken over.
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So, yeah, I, I, I perceive that as a, as a warning in some, some passion.
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And that we're kind of working with them is what I get from this too.
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Like that, at least one group here that seems to be like, hey, we need your help.
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Because otherwise, why even tell us about it, right?
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They're probably trying to recruit us for something or be like, hey, wake up.
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We need to like come together and like, we need you guys to hurry up and evolve.
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So you can help us out with this imminent, uh.
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Threat soon upon earth's leaders and civilizations.
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So, you know, I, I consider myself a, uh, a deep thinker.
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I, I look at things from many different angles.
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And when I do that and I look at history, I, there's a lot of indications.
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There's a lot of indications that, uh, this has been going on for thousands and thousands of years.
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I mean, I believe it was going on with the, uh, Egyptians, ancient Egypt.
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I believe it was going on in Easter Island.
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I believe it's been going on in Peru.
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And there are several different locations all across our planet that point out and indicate
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some advanced technology, some advanced proof that, uh, they've been associated with us
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So I do believe that not only do we have several different species that, uh, has been interacting
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with us throughout all of history.
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I also believe that as some, some of these cases, some of these things that have been happening
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could be, in fact, um, future versions of ourselves, uh, visiting ourselves, you know, from.
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What gives you that impression?
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What gives me that impression is that, uh, um, I don't have any, I don't have any proof.
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Any concrete evidence, but just.
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I don't have any concrete evidence.
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It's just some of the things that are, that I've read and seen online.
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Just, just indicate more or less that, uh, we are, uh, maybe, maybe in the future, we
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developed, uh, a version of time travel and we visited our ancient selves, which would
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And to try to help guide us into a, a better future, you know.
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So, I mean, I wouldn't, I would not put that past, um, that, uh, we are sometimes seeing
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future versions of ourselves mixed in with all these different other alien species.
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So, there is, um, you know, we talked about this over dinner a little bit yesterday, but
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like, if you were to, um, send back information in time, I think it would look like binary.
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It would look like binary.
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Uh, because if you were able to take photons and sort of, you know, flip them from, you
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know, these particles, flip them from positive to negative, you know, over a distance, over
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an infinite distance, because they're entangled on a quantum level, they would instantly flip
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on the other side of that.
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But not only through distance, but through time, because it's quantum and, and time, uh, you
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know, these, these things aren't beholden to time or space.
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So you could essentially, and maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but I feel like you could
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sort of suspend these quantum bits or whatever.
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In one orientation in space and time at this very place, wait a bunch of years.
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And they'll be there for you when you get to over there.
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At this point in time.
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At this point in space and time.
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And then you can just manipulate them and they would automatically change them back then too,
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because they're entangled.
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And so you'd be essentially able to communicate through time.
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Using like photonic, you know, communication in a way.
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Photons are very impressive.
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And, uh, yes, they, the way they, the way they operate is quite fascinating.
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However, with lasers and, and things such as that, uh, photons do dissipate over, over vast
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So, I mean, um, like, like we're, when we're studying, uh, um, solar systems and, uh, stars,
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you know, the further the star is away from us, the, the dimmer, the light is.
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And sometimes you can't see it with the naked eye.
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You have to use sensors and many different things to, to be able to draw, uh, or to be
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able to pick up that light.
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But that light dissipates over time.
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The photons dissipate, but they also have the ability to move around and, uh, go through
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So, uh, yeah, I, I don't think we fully understand the photons very well.
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And I think we probably should, you know, look into.
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Look into that further.
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But, uh, yeah, there is some, I see, I see some benefits, but.
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And it would make sense with the sort of future human hypothesis, at least.
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Uh, when you look at Jim Penniston or you look at a case like yours, where information
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needs to be given to you.
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And the only way to do that in a coherent manner, you know, maybe using these binary
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impressions or whatever that are kind of like quantumly suspended in space time and just
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Maybe that's all science fiction, but you know, here we are.
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Um, I'd like to go back now to June 29th.
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You have since then, um, recalled more information through dreams that you've had.
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And through other experiences.
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That you've had subsequently.
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The messages have also since evolved into different lettering.
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Now voices, also impressions, dreams.
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The transmissions haven't stopped.
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They've gone on consistently.
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Oh, they've slowed down.
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They've slowed down for a while.
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They, they, they slowed down quite a bit.
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Uh, so I was getting the boxes and lines, uh, several years ago.
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And then they kind of shifted to, to, uh, uh, lettering capitalization and lowercase.
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And then that was only for a very short period of time.
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And then they've evolved into, I'm hearing, uh, the voices.
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I'm hearing messages.
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Um, mostly female, but, uh, sometimes male.
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Mostly female, sometimes male.
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What is the tone of voice?
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The, the tone has been for the most part, pretty calm and at times stern, uh, with the,
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with the female voices.
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Sometimes the male voices have been informative and comforting, but can get stern at times,
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uh, just with tone, but it's for the most part, I want to say it never, um, overly, um,
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aggressive, never overly friendly.
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Just mild subtleties.
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Um, it was more or less just informative.
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Can you give me an example of what that would sound like if, if a male voice were to, if
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you were to interpret verbatim what one of these messages were, can you give me a small
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example of what that would sound like to my ears?
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I mean, anybody could, I mean, it's just talking to Siri.
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Just not with such high fluctuations in excitement.
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Uh, Siri, Siri, super excited about everything, but you know, you tone that down quite a bit
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and it's just, you know.
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Regular informational.
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Like that type of deal.
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And just subtly, very subtle.
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That's gotta be a whole other thing that freaks you out.
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Well, that mixed with images mixed with, um, going back to the, the first time.
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Uh, since then I'm had, I, I told you, you know, over dinner the other, uh, last night
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that, uh, I've had some more dreams based on that night.
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Uh, not a lot, just a few.
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Uh, and all it is, is just remembering a point in time that I didn't, I wasn't aware of when
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And that was, uh, uh, my driver's side door was open and I was being pulled from my, my
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truck and I was being held and it was only a short flashback moment.
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You know what I mean?
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And, and that flashback moment maybe lasted eight to 11 seconds, uh, in that flashback moment.
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But I re I clearly remember, um, seeing my wife in the passenger seat, almost frozen in
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time, still staring up at it.
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You know why I'm being pulled and struggling.
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Um, and why I'm struggling, I'm not seeing what I'm struggling with.
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So I don't get a clear visual, uh, image of what I'm struggling with, what I'm fighting
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with that's pulling me from the, from, from my truck.
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But I am seeing that I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, fighting and, and, and making noises and grunting.
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And the whole time I'm struggling, I'm looking for help.
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And so I'm, I'm seeing, and I'm seeing my wife sitting in the passenger seat, just basically
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frozen in time, looking up at what we were looking at, you know?
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And I remember like, help me, you're, but she's not moving.
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She's like literally frozen and I'm being pulled away.
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And as I'm pulled around the door is where, and then start to pull, uh, it disappears.
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And then it reappears as I'm directly underneath it.
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And I remember, I feel, uh, I told you at dinner, uh, right as I'm getting closer to
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it, that I, I cross like some sort of field where outside, when I was outside, you were
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hearing crickets and insects and stuff.
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As soon as I crossed that, that first field, it goes dead silent.
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And I feel it interacting with my body in some way.
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And I can't write, I can't quite describe the feeling going through that first field.
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I do clearly recognize that it got dead silent as soon as I crossed that first field.
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And then I went into another field.
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And when I crossed that second field, as I was getting closer, that's when I began to
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feel more weightlessness.
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And, uh, it was like a sudden, I felt more weightlessness and like, I couldn't move fast.
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But it felt weightless to me.
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And so I, I clearly remember, you know, maybe seven seconds of that going through the, each
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field and that first field, it was like silence.
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And the second field was weightlessness.
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And then I feel, uh, uh, maybe a few more seconds of tugging.
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Like an electric, an electric charge.
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Is that what this field felt like?
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I kind of feel like an electric charge, but more or less like a, uh,
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I couldn't even put it in the words.
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Um, slowing my, my, uh, slowing my reaction time down, slowing, slowing down my movements,
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uh, is the best way I could describe it.
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But your head is still functioning at a normal rate.
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I'm still looking around.
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I'm just not able to whip my head around.
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Like moving through molasses or something.
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So I, I, I, I, I, like slowed, slowed motion, uh, slowed physical, um, motions.
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Is the best way I could describe it.
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And then it, then it disappears again.
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And then, um, then I had the, the, the dream where I was on the table and I was surrounded.
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It just goes back to that.
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And I drew an image and you have a, you have a, um, an image that I had drew.
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Where it showed the, the species that was around us.
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And, uh, in that, in that picture, um, there was one that came in later, um, and took this black contact out of its eye to get a, uh, better look at me of some, of some.
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This is the impression that I got.
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So you're, let's take this, uh, step by step.
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You're coming into the craft.
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Now, all of a sudden you, you've appeared on the table, right?
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This is the memories flashing.
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Um, can you, are you seeing the walls of the craft at all?
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Are you seeing any shapes?
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I, I am, I'm able to see the, the, the walls.
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I'm able to see, uh, things around me.
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What do the walls look like?
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That's difficult because I wasn't staring at the walls.
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You know, my, my focus was on what are these things.
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How did my clothes get removed?
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You're naked on a hard surface?
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It wasn't a hard surface.
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You felt weightless.
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I felt weightless, but slowed reaction time.
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Slowed, uh, slow motion.
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Like, I guess slow, my motion, the, my motions like, like if I was going to punch the air,
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I could do it fast, but in that environment I was punching and it was going slower and
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the power is still there, but it was, it felt slowed.
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And at one point I do remember shoving the one off to my left pretty hard and it went back
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And I remember the wall was, I, I didn't see any, uh, grooves or cuts or anything.
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Um, like it was pieced together.
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I couldn't quite tell what, I mean, cause I wasn't really focused on the wall.
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I mean, I know there was a wall there.
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I know it seems smooth.
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I know it seemed like it had some sort of, um, almost like if you were looking at a motherboard
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Very similar motherboard without any electronic components attached to it.
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You know, like it's got, uh, it's got, it's got all the little, um,
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circuitry in there, but without any of the components attached.
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That's the way I could describe.
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And so, um, just, and that's just going off of like split second, like.
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I was more focused on what was happening.
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So you got, you got, um, two to your side and then you got two down by your feet.
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And, um, can you describe physically height, skin tone, complexion, what they look like
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Well, they're, they're all roughly around the same size.
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They were not the exact same size.
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Um, there were, I believe two or three that were focused on their tasks.
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Um, they were not associating my emotions with anything.
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They were just focused on doing what they were supposed to be doing.
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And there was a one that, uh, that was down by my foot, uh, that seemed a little bit older,
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uh, had, uh, some age behind, um, it's, uh, it's, it's appearance, but was also trying
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to do its best to keep me calm.
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I was kind of freaking out.
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And so it was, it was trying to calm me down, you know, and make me relax or something.
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Um, the others just seemed like they were focused on their tasks.
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Like this is like, this is what they do all the time.
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They're used to this.
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They, they showed very little emotion.
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The only one that did was the, the one that looked a little bit older.
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Like, like the one that was in charge or maybe the one.
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He seemed like a individual, like a.
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Like, like one that, that studied, um, emotions and feelings or has been studied emotions or maybe.
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I mean, it, it, I have no idea what position this, this one had other than that it, it was trying to
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relax me and calm me down because I was feeling like some sharp pains in my back and along my neck.
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Like I w it w I was fine, but I would feel like electric, electric, um, pain, stabbing pain, like stabbing pain mixed with electricity, like shocks and jolts in my neck and my back.
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Um, and so, yeah, I, I, I remember that.
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And I remember the one that came in after took the contact out to, to look at me.
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It was like a rubber or something, you know, it was like, uh, some sort of.
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I was under, I was under the impression that maybe, uh, it, uh, it was some sort of computer system.
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That had some, um, imagery or some, you know.
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Technology that can, you know, maybe see in our environments.
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Uh, like, uh, this happened.
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See a different spectrum.
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Maybe like it, this happened at night.
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Maybe it was, uh, amplifying the darkness so that it can, um, pull me from the truck.
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Like maybe this was one that was pulling me from the truck.
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Was it deep blue, dark blue, light blue?
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It looked natural, like human.
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But the eyes were much larger.
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How big would you say?
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I would say two to three times.
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So have you ever read the, um, the biology report of a guy who claimed that he worked on these beings?
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This might be interesting for you then.
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Um, I'm not going to go through the whole thing, but I will send you, I made a whole video on it.
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But I will touch on what he said about the eyes.
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Um, because he goes through, uh, and maybe, maybe I'll go through the head and the ear here, but he goes through the brain, the fingers, it's a whole biology.
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And he breaks it all down.
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He said he worked on them.
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And, um, he goes like the head contains two large oversized eyes, two nostrils without protuberance, a narrow mouth without lips,
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two ear canals without oracles.
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And there is a mandible, but there is, uh, but the musculature is vestigial.
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There are no teeth, no tongue in the oral cavity, nasal cavity where the nostrils meet, yada, yada, yada.
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Um, the eye, this is really interesting.
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Like the skin, the eyes are covered with a semi-transparent biosynthetic film that offers the same environmental protection while providing protection against certain wavelengths and light intensity.
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When the film is removed, a more traditional eye is revealed.
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It's about three times larger than a human eye and there are no eyelids.
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The size of their eye suggests they have excellent night vision.
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It seems paradoxical to cover them with a semi-opaque film.
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And he says semi-opaque.
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This is something that I found extremely interesting because normally when we picture these grays, we think dark black eyes.
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Here we're, and that might only be because it's nighttime when you see them.
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But here he says semi, semi-opaque.
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So not completely blacked out.
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You don't want blind.
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Is that what you saw?
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I, I, I, it appears black at nighttime.
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But when you looked at the other ones, could you see their eyes behind?
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Um, I wasn't focused on their eyes.
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What the hell's going on to me?
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I was in, uh, fight mode.
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Um, so he peeled away his eye to have a closer look at you and you, and.
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That's what I, that's what I noticed is when he.
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When this pulled its contact or this, I associate it with a contact, pulled this, this, uh, dark contact out of his eye.
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I could tell it was a normal eye, just much larger.
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And it says here their sclera is the same color as their bright, uh, as their skin.
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The iris is pale gray in this one particular.
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Uh, and the pupil is black and oversized.
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The lens is rounder than a human and the musculature used to adjust focus is more developed.
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So I'll send you this.
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Kind of the only other time that I've heard.
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You mentioned their ear canal.
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I, I, I drew what I saw.
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You don't see ears on, on these.
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I see like a lump or some sort of, uh, ridge, but not a defined ear, just more like a canal.
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I'll send you this file and I'd love for you to just maybe go through it.
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Uh, and, uh, have a read because it is quite extensive.
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And in my opinion, it rings pretty true.
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My conviction level on that being true is up there around 80%.
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I'm, I'm pretty high conviction.
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On that, but only because there are many, many, many, um, he's a credible microbiologist,
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molecular biologist.
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Um, but also like, I mean, in the technical terms, I've had molecular biologists be like,
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yeah, he's, you know, definitely a guy that knows his stuff, but also like he mentions things
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like the skin and it has, it's filled with tons of pores.
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And that they kind of secrete their excrement through their skin.
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Um, that's how their digestive tract works.
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And it gives it like, uh, do you remember a smell on board at all?
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Uh, I remember a smell, but it was very similar to the way a hospital smells like, uh, static,
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Um, and I remember them wearing some type of metallic, um, it was mildly metallic, but
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also had different shimmers and colors associated with what they were wearing or along their
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But we're, I was like, they were like, uh, put in front of her screen and does this
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was, the clothing was designed to fit them perfectly kind of thing and move and stretch,
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you know, with their bodies.
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No wrinkles or anything.
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No wrinkles, nothing to snag on something.
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It seemed like, uh, a suit to be worn, uh, while you're repairing electronics.
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You don't want your clothing to snag on electronics, um, and damage the things that
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you're trying to repair.
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You know, that's interesting observation.
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Um, were they communicating with you at this point?
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Um, just the one at the end and it seemed more telepathic just, and I just got, you
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know, I didn't get actual words.
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I was getting the feeling, um, the telepathic feeling and emotions, relax, calm down.
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You're going to be all right.
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You know, that's the, that's what I was receiving from the one at the end of the, the one that
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Um, any other impressions that they were giving you?
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Um, in this particular situation?
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And I don't remember being, I haven't had any flashbacks or memories of being put back
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Um, I had a moment where I was being pulled from the table.
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Um, and I remember seeing the floor and the floor was just solid, like solid, um, off-white
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Um, I didn't see any dirt or debris on the floor, but then, you know, then it vanished.
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I, you know, that's all I got was a little bit pulled from where I was being held on this,
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um, almost weightless table.
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To seeing the floor and then, um, yeah, nothing since then.
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Um, was, this wasn't your only run-in?
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No, no, this was not my only run-in.
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I had, uh, several very extremely vivid dreams.
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Of, um, being on their, um, their vessel, um, another time too, or several other times
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actually, um, where it wasn't just the, the tall grays or a merther.
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There were smaller ones, uh, smaller grays.
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And there was, uh, very short, um, female, um, a long hair that didn't look like the grays
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They look like a totally different species.
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Just, uh, and very, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
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Um, very normal looking.
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Such as if you take a normal, um, six foot man and you just shrink them down to three
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Proportionate is the word I'm looking for.
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Very proportionate, uh, to their body weight and size and height.
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Like a normal person would look just shrunken to about three, three and a half feet.
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Um, there were several of them.
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And, uh, this goes to, uh, another situation that I had mentioned to you last night as well,
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where my wife and I both had, uh, an identical dream.
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The very same night we had an identical dream, um, where we are both in an environment that's
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being on, that's under attack or something's attacking this small community or town where
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there's a few high rise buildings, like six, seven stories.
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And some of these high rises were collapsed where I was at, where she was at was a little
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And she was with another female running for cover and trying to get away from this.
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I was in a, what, what I remember as being in like a, uh, a, uh, store hiding behind some
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shelves why the attack was going on.
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And, and when the attack seemed to slow down, um, I came out like a lot of other people did.
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And there was this destroyed structure building, um, where they were pulling people out that
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They're trying to rescue people.
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And I remember running over to help and I helped one person out.
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And then another female came out, but she was completely nude and I was helping her out and
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she had no sense of embarrassment, no sense of notion that she was nude.
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It was going to affect anything.
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Um, not trying to hide herself, just acting completely natural.
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Like it's normal for her to be completely nude.
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And, uh, I was helping her out.
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And then I remember some chaos happening off to my right and, uh, some more attacks were
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So I was helping her over the last concrete pillar that she was climbing over.
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And, uh, we ran together and, uh, the, where I would, where I was at before in like this
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little, um, the shop was now collapsed.
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So I ran past it and further down the road into like a small house.
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Um, and I ran with her there.
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And, uh, what's odd is my wife was dreaming that she was in a, in a different structure
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and running to another house.
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But in the distance she can see another house, but what the other house that she can see in
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the distance of her dream was the house that I was running into.
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And she clearly remember seeing two people running into it.
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And so what was odd is we both had the same dream of the same thing happening.
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But in different places.
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But we were in different places.
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Of why, why all it's happening.
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And so that, that was, that was pretty, pretty wild that we woke up and we're talking about
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Like, oh my God, that's exactly what I dreamed.
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But I was at a different location and we were sharing the information.
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I would, I would consider that wild.
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Um, but you, the thing is you refer to these as dreams.
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I refer to them as dreams because they're happy.
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They happen when I'm sleeping.
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Um, so I don't want to misguide any.
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I want to be a hundred percent transparent and honest.
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And when, when they happen to me while I'm sleeping and I wake up and I can, I remember
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them as if, as if they actually happened the day before, like they happen vividly and trans.
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I can remember, um, grabbing rock and touching the floor.
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I can remember smells.
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I can remember how things feel on my skin.
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Um, I can rem, I can remember, um, wind or breeze on my face.
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So, I mean, these aren't just dreams where all of the other senses are, are, are void.
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These are dreams where I'm feeling and smelling and hearing and experiencing with all my senses.
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That's what's happening.
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And so that's, that's what makes it more.
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Well, some of these dreams you've come back with injuries.
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And so that's where I, you know, we've got, we say dreams, but my dreams don't leave strange
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marks, symmetrical marks on my body.
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Um, now these other dreams where you had these markings, um, and if you'd like, we can pull
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Yeah, we can pull up.
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Here's some images here.
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The first one here, this is on your thigh.
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This is an equilateral triangle, what looks to be with three marked bruises.
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Perfectly, um, identical, identical distance between each one.
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You've measured them?
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Well, I mean, just a little basic.
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You can, you can also see it.
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Where did this come from?
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Um, I mean, and that just makes these, these dream states so much more realistic for me.
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You know what I mean?
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What was that particular dream?
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Do you remember that one?
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I really don't remember which one that happened with, to be honest.
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I just wanted to take.
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I wanted a document, you know?
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There was another one.
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With my eye that's happened several times, actually.
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That one is, you can clearly see like a, some type of symmetry, some type of like angular geometric shape in your eye.
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And it looks like a puncture.
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And then a puncture.
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And I got 20, 20 vision, so.
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That is clearly a puncture.
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What do you make of that?
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Do you think that was done?
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I don't know why that happened to me.
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I don't know why I needed something jabbed in my eye, you know, to be honest with you.
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And so that part frightens me a little bit.
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Like something can, can hurt me and harm me.
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But, you know, I'm, I'm thankful that I, I, I could still use both my eyes and I have 20, 20 vision.
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So, um, I'm, yeah, it's scary that it could happen, but it's, it's comforting to know that I'm not blind in one eye.
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You know what I mean?
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Because, you know, with any injury, you know, we don't know how our bodies will handle those injuries.
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And we don't know, you know, if this is a real injury or an upgrade or whatnot.
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And when we're going, and when, as we're, as we progress later in our conversation, we can talk about, uh, a trip to the hospital with a, uh.
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With a issue later down the road.
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And we'll get to that as well.
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Um, so let's go back to these, uh, quote unquote dreams.
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Um, you've had several where there are, like you said, other species.
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Um, let's talk about some of these interactions because I'm, uh, if anything, I'm just more fascinated by this facet of the phenomenon is the species is the different species that we might be interacting with.
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And the ones that seemingly are cooperating in some sense, there's some type of community of these beings working together.
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It seems like, um, at any one point where there are more than two different types of species in the same room.
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Uh, were there ever any that looked like us?
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Other than the little ones.
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What did they look like?
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So, and, and one of my dreams, there was a, uh, or I keep saying dreams.
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This is how I associate it.
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So I will continue to say dreams because this is just.
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So, and one of them, there were the tall grays, which I'm assuming would be the emirthers, the small grays who I didn't have a whole lot of, um, communication with.
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It was a very mild telepathic and more along the lines of help guiding me around the ship.
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They're helping me walk around the ship kind of thing.
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Um, there were the, the small female.
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Um, they weren't all female.
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There were some males that were much shorter than them.
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I would say like a six, six inches shorter.
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And they seem to have like, um, very, um, like a lack of intelligence.
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Like, like they were, uh, they were meaningless to them.
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Um, like their males were, were just used to do the heavy lifting.
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There was something.
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It was, it was like a, a, a dynamic that was completely different.
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The women were in charge.
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Women were in charge.
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But I also, I also found out later from a previous dream that is something that happened on their planet that affected male DNA that their offspring.
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Um, the males either didn't survive childbirth or birthing or, um, and they, and that the ones that did just lacked the ability for creativity and knowledge and grasping that knowledge.
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They're hard to train hard to, hard to, hard to educate, like some sort of thing happened.
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I don't know if it was a, a natural cosmic thing or if it was a war or something that took place that, that damaged their DNA in some way where the, the males just either didn't survive.
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They were low in numbers.
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They, they, uh, lacked a lot of the ability to, um, reproduce.
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And, uh, that there wasn't, there wasn't enough, um, educated males, uh, left to, to really help, you know, their, their own people.
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And so the ones that were, that were, uh, safeguarded from this, it seemed like to be the, the, the female side of the DNA was not affected.
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And so I was under the impression that they're here to try to, um, collect some DNA to help their, their, their community.
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And because they don't want to die out, you know, just like any, any living thing.
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Wants to continue to survive.
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So I think it's more or less a survival instinct for them.
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Then there were talls.
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There were, there were talls, um, tall blondes that I, that I didn't associate or didn't speak with.
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What were they wearing?
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I, uh, light colors.
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But like, I didn't, I wasn't having conversations with them.
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They seemed to be having conversations with the merthers and doing things with them.
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Um, but I recognized the both male and female, and there were several of them.
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There's like six or seven of them just kind of doing their stuff in the distance.
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They were about our height, if not taller, um, that resembled, you know, human beings as well as the small ones.
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There was, um, another one that was walking out as I was being, I was walking in.
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And, and I, I only catch a glimpse of this one, but every time that I've had this vivid dream where I'm in associating with, with all of them, there's always one that's leaving the room.
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That's a little bit more shy, uh, shy from us.
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Um, that's always leaving.
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And it, and it, you know, I'm only catching a glimpse of it.
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It just kind of looks kind of like a, I don't know, ogre-ish, almost similar to, have you ever watched the Lord of the Rings?
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And, um, the, uh, who they're fighting all the time.
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The orcs kind of thing.
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Very, like, somewhat similar.
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Uh, a little bit more advanced.
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And, and attire and things.
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Uh, kind of resembling some, some similarities within that.
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But it's, like I said, it's only a glimpse that I'm seeing every time of it leaving the room.
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And I was under the impression that, uh, um, their appearance can be a little scary based on how they look, but it's, you know, them.
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And it was these type of dreams that you would wake up and have markings on your body?
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That is, and, and again, you're laying down in these dreams?
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No, you're standing up.
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Uh, the, the, the first encounter was when I was on.
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But then you're just kind of.
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And then several after I've been allowed to walk around and, and, uh, and, uh, just kind of scope things out and check things out.
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And I'm being guided by, uh, the small females.
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And the small grays who don't communicate very much.
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They're just there to kind of assist.
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And they have, they have a purpose and they're very intelligent.
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Um, but they, you know, it was like they, they deal with this stuff all the time.
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Very routine with them.
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Whereas the small, uh, females, um, it didn't seem so very routine for them.
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Um, so they were a little bit more communicative than, than, than the others.
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The murthers, when they would communicate anything they would say to you would be, um, of vital importance or of great importance.
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Like they wouldn't speak unless it was important to say.
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They didn't waste time with things.
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It was just important.
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Well, one thing that you did mention in, um, the interview with Linda Moulton Howe was.
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You had the impression that there was some type of council.
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Um, can you talk about that a little bit more?
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Are the council five?
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It was a, it was a feeling and, um, almost like a, like a telepathic, like, um, communication that there was five.
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That were part of this little group that I was associated with and being where I was at with them, that there's the, the five of them were like their council.
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Five of them as in five races, five species.
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I mean, that's, uh, and, and those, you had a sense were benevolent.
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Uh, having some protection.
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Um, others is, is a bit comforting.
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Maybe it was just said to me to be comfortable, but I, I didn't, I didn't pick up any hostilities.
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Um, I did have an encounter with, uh, a human that was there as well and was a little agitated that I was present.
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What was his role or her?
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Um, I was guided into the room and, uh, when this person saw me, this male saw me, I was immediately like, why is he here?
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He's not, he's not, he's not with our group.
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We, and it was upset and, uh, we, and it was upset and like pointing at me.
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And I'm like, um, I took it offensive and was like, obviously you can't do something that I can.
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And it was just more or less like, you're taunting me, I'm gonna taunt you back.
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And then, uh, he turned and, and, and walked off.
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Who was he talking to?
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He was talking to him right there.
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And what, was he wearing anything?
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He was wearing like, uh, it was a jumpsuit, like a human jumpsuit.
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It was blue, like dark Navy.
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Did he feel like he was military or?
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I got the impression it was, um, military, um, military hairstyle, you know, military appearance.
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Like, uh, some higher up somewhere.
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Maybe secret space program or something.
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I recognize, I don't, I didn't recognize the person.
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But I recognize his features as, as a human.
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And his attitude and way he spoke as human.
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So, uh, I don't want to, I don't want to call anybody out.
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So I won't describe in detail what the appearance was.
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I don't want to divulge or, or, or, or threaten any, any other, um, organization.
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I don't, I'm not, I'm not American.
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What are you saying?
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Was there, was there some feature on there that would have given away what department this
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guy would have worked for?
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I'm just, just observing.
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This was an American, um.
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Uh, uh, an American department.
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One of the, one of the American departments in some capacity.
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But yeah, I, I don't want to describe this person in any kind of detail.
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Just, it was another male.
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Well, that's interesting.
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You're giving me puzzle pieces here.
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So I'm, I'm pardon me if I'm trying to figure it out.
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Um, this is, I'm sure you do the same.
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So, I mean, this is all very fascinating to me and, you know, obviously for the listener,
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we're taking them through a whole journey here and we're going, you know, far beyond
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possibly what they're comfortable with.
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And like, we're talking about these things that are like dreams.
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You're waking up, you're having markings on your body, clear markings on your body.
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Um, but now I want to get back to something a little more tangible again, a little more
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physical is, is you keep having messages.
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And you, you receive in 2016, you start receiving messages.
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Now, I wondered, you know, when I was reading about your case and when I was, uh, hearing
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about your case through, uh, Dr.
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Drew and, and, and watching your interview with, uh, Linda Mullen Howe.
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I was wondering, why are these messages all in English?
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That was always same question I had for Jim Penniston.
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Why, you know, how, what about another language or what about a language that we're not familiar
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Like that doesn't make, unless it was absolutely intended for you.
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Which I believe it was.
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Which I believe it was, but otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
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I mean, if somebody's speaking to you in another language and you don't understand what they're
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saying, like, what are you gonna, where are you gonna walk away with?
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But maybe, uh, I'm saying maybe you intercepted some transmission that wasn't meant for you
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was like my initial thought.
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Like maybe something like that could have happened.
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Um, but then also later on, you were given pieces of information that you told me were
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very personal to you.
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There were some translations that, uh, yeah, kind of affected me because I felt, uh, I felt
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that was very per, you know, personal per se to me and, uh, it seemed very specific to
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me, um, with, you know, conversations with the Linda and I, she'll tell you, I, I, it choked
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me up a little bit, but it also like put me on a little bit of a defense where, um, it,
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I don't want to take away from, uh, I don't want to take away from the, the experience, but
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at the same time, it, it just, it was a little bit profound and, uh, you know, maybe later
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down the road, uh, some of that more can, can come out, but, uh, I don't know.
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Uh, she'll tell you I was a bit frightened by some of it and, um, I mean, I didn't feel
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threatened or anything per se.
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It was just, you know, more of emotional, emotional response, you know.
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Can you tell me what it had to do with?
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Um, it had to do with, um, some translations, um, referring to me as being, uh, kind of a
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messenger or something.
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But I, I don't want to associate myself with being, um, a messenger or some sort of.
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Prophet or anything.
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Prophet or figure because that's completely against who I am as a person, you know, and
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we are all individuals.
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We are all fascinating individuals.
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Every one of us, all of your listeners, everyone out there is, is a fascinating, the fascinating
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person, you know, and, and I don't want to take away, um, or project myself as being some,
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something that I don't feel that I am, you know what I mean?
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And so, yeah, it was describing me as like, I have an ability to perceive things that,
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um, several others, uh, can't seem to do or, or can't evolve in a way where the messages
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can be, um, received well.
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And I, I, I believe that it was referring to, this is after some great time thinking
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about it, that maybe it was just, it was just a metaphor or, or, or speaking to me in
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a, in a fashion that I'm able to do something that many others can't.
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And, and, and that I believe that I'm able to receive the information and coherently speak
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about it afterwards.
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Like a decoder, but you know, I, yeah.
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And so it, it bothers me a little bit cause I don't want to be.
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It's a lot of responsibility.
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I don't want to be put up as some sort of.
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But on the other hand of that.
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You know, there is, I think some importance to at least divulge some of that information.
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What you're doing here today, I think is really brave.
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I think we're all messengers in some way.
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But I, I do think it's important that you share a lot of this stuff because clearly,
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you know, if they're concerned.
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I believe we should be concerned.
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If they're concerned, then we should be concerned as well.
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So you continue having more of these messages happen.
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And I'd like to ask, is this something you're willing to talk about?
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Um, let's get into, let's get into some of this because, and again, if you're not comfortable,
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you just let me know and we'll work around it.
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Um, the next progression here is June to October, 2016.
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You have messages in four symbols, uh, from the, the merthers to, to yourself.
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And the message is as follows.
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Your creator is displeased.
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Arrogant belief must allow all.
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Now you're given a latitude and longitude.
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And then decoders monitored.
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Um, so right there, um, just for this first part, we have something really interesting, but those.
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I don't remember what the, uh, the, uh, latitude, longitude.
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Um, so the latitude of Solomon's temple.
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And then the longitude of temple mount.
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And you know, it's so crazy because I, as a defense contractor, I recently was in Israel and in Jerusalem.
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I've got pictures, you know, near that location.
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It's like it was predicting my future outcome of where I would be.
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That's wild, isn't it?
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That, yeah, obviously.
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This happens all the time.
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These synchronicities.
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I do not choose work for where the location is.
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I choose work for the job and I don't have no idea where I'm going to end up, you know, doing, doing this type of work.
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So it's, it's kind of wild that, you know.
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I mean, there are a lot of kind of wild things going on here.
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Um, so yeah, you take that as almost some type of synchronicity.
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Like they're showing you like, hey, and, and here, uh, the word solo, um, at the longitude of Solomon's temple here.
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Solo, solo as in Solomon's temple.
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Another interesting connection that was found by Dr. Drew here.
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And Solomon, I believe, didn't he have some sort of guidance, um, from God himself to, uh, create the temple.
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I'm not familiar with.
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I'm not familiar with.
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I'm not super, super familiar with religion.
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Um, I, I am, I would align myself Christian.
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Mm-hmm to the, to the best part.
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I'm not, I'm not a everyday go to church type of person.
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I'm pretty open-minded, but I, I do live my life, uh, peaceful and calm and courteous to others and polite to others.
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And, um, I care about life and things, but, um, yeah, solo, um,
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Well, I'll have to look into that a little bit.
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Seems like individual, you know, and then at the end of the day that points at Solomon's temple, you know, quite a bit.
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Where were you when you received this message?
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June to October, 2016.
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I believe I was in, uh, Colorado.
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And this is probably at night again.
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That always happens at night.
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I don't know Bergoglio.
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I'll look that up real quick if you don't mind.
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And looking at the letters that, uh, was translated by.
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From, from Dr. Horace Drew is in red.
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This is really interesting.
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And then it says, accept open and free keys.
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And then in red, we have Pope FR.
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As in perhaps Pope Francis.
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One could make that assumption.
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Well, Bergoglio is Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the birth name of Pope Francis.
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Now, back in 2016, when this is explained to me, I was like, uh, like I said, I was getting
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lots of messages and lots of translations.
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So it's, I'm remembering a lot more as we're talking about them, but, uh, they're not brought
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up in my head all the time kind of thing.
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Because I'm constantly.
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More and more type of messages.
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Bergoglio does ring some bells with, uh, Pope Francis.
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Well, I mean, this is so wild.
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And is he still the Pope?
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Because I think the Pope changed again.
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Pope Francis passes now the, uh, the Pope from Chicago.
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Did he pass or did he just hand over?
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I was actually, um, in Italy, in Rome.
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Uh, the, the day after he passed.
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I, I booked my trip to Rome.
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I was going to Rome.
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I was going to go visit the Vatican.
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And I was like, nice.
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And literally a day before I see, oh no, the Pope is dead.
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Now I'm like, uh, oh, that kind of foils my plan to go to the Vatican.
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Hundreds and thousands of people.
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The city got shut down, you know, and I was in the midst of all this.
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The day you were there.
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I was there for the funeral.
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Like they, they, you know, paraded around his body, around the, uh, around the city.
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And so I'm wondering if this is a metaphor, you know, it says to free keys.
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So I wonder if it's, it means like you're no longer, you're no longer Pope hand over the
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keys to the next, you know what I mean?
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There's so many different similarities that, you know, I, this came out in 2016, obviously
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way before, you know, he was even.
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You know, before he passed this, this essentially in 2016 pointed out that he was going to pass
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the keys off to someone else.
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You know what I mean?
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There's so many, there's so many things that you just can't ignore.
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This, this is the Da Vinci code.
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Um, decoders monitored, use caution.
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That one terrifies me.
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That one, uh, bothers me as well.
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Because, uh, the moment, uh, I heard that I got concerned with, um, I got concerned for
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the safety of Linda and, uh, Dr. Horst Drew at that point in time.
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Um, I was almost at a point where like, okay, we need to put this on hold.
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I'm going to stop talking to people for a while because they're helping me, but I don't
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want to put them in jeopardy.
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You know, uh, they're important to me.
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Um, they're good people, both Linda and Dr. Horst Drew.
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They're good people.
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They have, they have good hearts.
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And the last thing I want to do is bring, bring something negative towards them.
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And so at this point in time, I was, I was, I was kind of backing off from sharing.
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I was worried for them.
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And so, um, when this translation came out, I was, I was, I was being cautious.
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You know, it's not just about me anymore.
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And I don't want to, I don't want to bring anything upon others.
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So, yeah, I remember that.
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But it does say decoders monitor use caution.
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It doesn't say stop.
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It doesn't say stop.
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It doesn't, it doesn't say.
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It doesn't say stop.
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It says use caution.
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So, you know, caution should be taken with everything that we do in life, shouldn't it?
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I take that as a direct message for sure.
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Um, it then goes on to rebuild temple for all.
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That's another scary one.
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And so, I don't know about that one at all.
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I mean, I, I couldn't think of anything.
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But if they were, if they were crashed.
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I don't think they all crashed.
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Do you think they were just, here, here, here's something that works.
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According to other whistleblowers, um, I think David Gresham mentioned this too,
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that there are some that are considered to be, or at least looked at as donations.
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Donations for experiments?
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They were left there intact with nothing on board type.
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In these sort of giving fields.
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And they were just kind of on these ranges or whatever it is.
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They were kind of just dropped there and like, here you go.
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But that would just be like a gift of a vehicle in my perspective of things.
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You know, here, here.
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Here's an, here's an object.
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Is this object a gift or what do we consider gifts?
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Gifts are, uh, gifts are given with emotion.
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Gifts are given with intent and gifts are given with, um, meaning behind them.
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So I, I'm one that, like I said, thinks outside of the box a lot on a lot of different things.
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So I interpret a gift as something that could be used for knowledge, something that could be used to answer questions, something that could be used more or less, per se, with emotions and, and, and helping in some fashion.
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So what was this gift?
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I'm not thinking it was, it was a, uh, um, UAP that was left behind as a gift.
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I'm thinking it was something more tech.
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Some type of instrument.
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I get feeling and emotion and, and I get more out of it than that.
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You know what I mean?
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So there is talk that Eisenhower and the majestic were given a tool, which is this looking glass, this crystal that, um, or, uh, was known as like the yellow book or there's all types of different names for it.
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So a book, a book of knowledge.
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But essentially it was like a hologram that could, you could peer into different timelines.
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Like a, like a magic eight ball.
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Like a magic eight ball, but that had like all these.
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And that, that was the way that I understood it.
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And again, this is all just lore.
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I don't know if any of this is accurate, but the way that I understood it is it was given to them with the intent to disseminate that to the world.
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Use this as a tool to evolve.
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And they chose to keep it for themselves and to use it for their own personal gain and militarization.
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And controlling the narrative through the military industrial complex.
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And that ticked them off.
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And they were like, that's not why we gave it to you.
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You promised us that you would do it this way and you didn't.
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You're not using it for its intended purposes.
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So I see return our gifts as being like, hey.
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Play nice or give it back.
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Play nice or give it back.
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Topside destruction of early libraries, artifacts, and structure.
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What do you make of that?
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So when I think of topside, I think of surface.
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Because, you know, I'm not Navy.
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But if I was operating underwater, then surface would be the water level.
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The surface of the water.
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Surface of the earth.
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So this would be, how I interpret it is libraries.
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What else did it say?
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Libraries, artifacts, and structures.
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Libraries, artifacts, and structures.
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So artifacts are things of our past, right?
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So I interpret this as our history.
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You know, like maybe ancient civilizations that we're uncovering, like in Egypt and things,
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you know, and over time they become buried in sand.
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So maybe these are structures or maybe they have information.
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Maybe there's historical reference or guides, such as hieroglyphics, you know,
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and some of these ancient structures that we're burying in the desert that are, you know,
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echoes of our past, of how we lived back in the day.
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And maybe they're being destroyed in some fashion, somehow.
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Yeah, and that's the topside destruction.
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So there might be a whole underground component here that we're.
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So, I mean, I remember being in Iraq when we were operating out there.
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There was, there's a lot of historical sites out there.
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And I remember some, some of the, there were some peoples that were,
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they're destroying and defacing ancient.
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Statues and things because.
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You know, who knows?
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Maybe they're not well educated on the history of things,
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but maybe they're just trying to wipe away some of the history.
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And then I don't think that's beneficial to humanity at all.
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You know, when, when you have an,
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when you have a view and you want everybody to view things the way that you view things,
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and you want to discredit anybody who has an outside view of things,
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then you're imposing, um,
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violence and destruction to force people to see your view,
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your way and your way only.
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And so I don't think this is a, uh, I don't think this is a, uh, uh,
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a good way to think and good way to operate.
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I, I, I interpret that as, as, uh, as a, as an arrogant way to,
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um, force their beliefs upon everyone kind of thing.
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Maybe that's what they're warning us about.
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Like, Hey, stop doing that.
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So, so we give us our gifts back.
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Stop destroying stuff.
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Um, and then the capital letters spell out monde,
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which is French for world.
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And the word defend, which again, pretty deep there.
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Um, followed, followed by must chastise or avoid study of dark energy
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until photon energy is mastered.
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And then in brackets, enlarge, squeeze, shrink, insert, charge.
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And then the capitalized letters spell it lunar.
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This one baffled me.
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I mean, as far as the enlarge, shrink, insert, charge, all, I, I have.
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It sounds, it sounds, uh, like it's, uh, kind of out of my realm of,
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Physics or something.
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You know, and I pick up physics pretty quickly and I've never taken a physics
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It's just something I've always, I've always picked up quite easily, quite well,
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because I can envision things in my mind, um, such as playing billiards and pool.
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I didn't take classes on the physics of it.
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I, I paid attention and practiced the way the balls manipulate from each other.
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And how they strike and where they hit on the, on the, uh, side rails to, to make
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And I'm, I'm quite good at billiards and pool.
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In the military, you know, usually.
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We should play tonight.
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But I did not bring my pool cue.
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We can, we'll play on an even playing field.
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We'll both use shitty, shitty pool cues.
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We could use some house sticks.
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I'll play, I'll play.
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What's wrong with a few dings and dents and broken tips?
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You know, we'll make something happen.
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And then lunar, obviously something there.
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We talked about this before and then avoid study, avoid study of dark energy.
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So like we're looking into dark matter, obviously.
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I don't know what dark, dark energy is.
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I don't think we know what dark matter is, but we're trying to through CERN, I think,
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uh, either figure it out, create it.
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Um, even, you know, if you listen to Bob Lazar, he says that the creation of element 115,
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once element 115, the fuel is put into the, uh, sort of generator engine or whatever.
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Um, it, it basically dissipates into or creates 116, uh, from 115.
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And then it, it sort of, uh, disintegrates in that or whatever it does.
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And then that creates dark matter, antimatter or whatever.
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And that's how the reactor, I'm probably butchering it.
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Last night when we were eating dinner, um, we were, we were talking about this as, uh,
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I, I was talking to, um, uh, Dr. Horstrew and, you know, I was sharing some information
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with him, um, what I was seeing and, and my vivid dream state.
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And I was drawing pictures for him of what I was seeing.
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And what I saw was on a monitor that was embedded into the wall when one of these small
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grays had gone to it and it lit up like a, like a monitor, like a television monitor
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like this, this here.
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And it was showing, um, some sort of metallic liquid metallic.
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And I'm, I'm quick to say, or a lot of people are quick to say that's liquid mercury.
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Well, that's what we have here, but we don't, I'm, I'm not for sure that that was liquid
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It could be some other type of liquid metal that we haven't discovered yet, but I believe
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it was some type of, some type of liquid metal that was stationary at the time when he brought
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up the screen and, and it started up and this, uh, liquid metal started rotating in a,
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in a circle spinning, um, something that was similar to when it was stopped, it was similar
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to like the yin-yang symbol, you know, the black and white S with the two dots on, on either
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side, I, it kind of resembled that appearance, but you know, this wasn't, you know, I wasn't
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looking straight down at it.
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This was at an angle and I was interpreting the information kind of like that yin-yang
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Um, but with the liquid metal rotating, spinning, causing other things to rotate and spin.
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And it was charged in a way where it started to glow, um, some sort of, uh, plasma around
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it and it was changing colors.
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So this was spent in extremely fast and it was charged, electrified in some way that it
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And I tried to articulate this and, and sketches and, and shooting this over to, uh, uh, Dr.
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We'll bring it up here.
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And yeah, yeah, we'll definitely bring that up.
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I would love, you know, what's so cool about this as well, Jeremy, is that everything you're
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saying and everything that we're looking at right here, like there's a hive mind out there
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right now that's watching this with us and this is the whole of the internet.
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There are brilliant people watching this.
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There are people who are studying advanced physics and sciences and all, all the soft
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and hard sciences and collectively, you know, it's another one of the reasons why, again,
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I'm so thankful that you're doing this because you're giving not just me this information,
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you're, you're giving this human information to humanity and whoever's out there who's on
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this path to try and.
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You know, help disclosure, help whatever that is to, to, to come to light a little bit
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and shine some light on this stuff.
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I mean, they're, they're going to find something in here that they can use for, for that.
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I am constantly getting new information.
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I'm constantly receiving messages in some fashion, not every day, not every night, but,
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you know, once, twice a month, maybe once a month, maybe it'll go a few months without
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anything and I'll have something, but I'm, I'm constantly bombarded with very clear messages,
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very vivid messages.
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I would be happy to, some engineers, you know, I'd be happy to, the, the, to assist and help.
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You know, because honestly, I'm just, I'm burnt out with the radar stuff, you know, I've been
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doing it for so long.
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I'm ready to move to something different.
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You know, I would love to, to, to go on the investigative side of things, you know, where
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I'm not sitting and told to sit there and just, Hey, somebody else is going to do this.
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I want to, I want to get involved.
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You know, I want to help out.
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You know, I have that engineering background, you know, I would be happy to help.
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And I'm sure, you know, after this airs, you'll probably get some phone calls.
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That's why I took the, I took the mask off.
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I'm, I'm not going by Sarnforce Class CJ anymore.
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You know, my name's out there.
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Um, I would also err on the side of caution when it comes to that, because throwing out
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an open invitation like that can, uh, lead to all sorts of, uh, yeah, definitely.
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But you're a smart guy.
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I, I mean, no threat to anyone, especially my own country.
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You know, I, I, I chose to defend my country.
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I'm, I'm a honorable person and I will not, uh, I do not want to create any negative impact
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within our, within my country and within, within the world, you know, per se.
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So yeah, I'm not going to divulge things that I'm not supposed to talk about.
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But you know, I think some sharp minds getting together and, and just working out things.
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Let's continue on this.
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Creator will stand aside.
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14 guardians remain on.
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Creator will stand aside.
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Creator will stand aside.
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Um, 14 guardians remain on.
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Now, I wonder if this is a reference to Ike's embedded citizens.
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Um, but also here we have in, in parentheses space force, because that is what we refer to
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the space force officers as guardians.
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So that's why I think Dr. Drew said, you know, 14 guardians remain on.
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I want to see something here.
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This is way before the space force though.
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When did space force?
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This is a couple of years ago.
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So that's just interesting.
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Or maybe this, this, this group of five expanded to 14.
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And maybe the creator of the group.
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Stand aside and allow them to work out, you know.
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Or yeah, some creative or program or something.
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This one, this one's.
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This one's throwing me, throwing me off a bit.
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Definitely enigmatic.
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Maybe it, maybe some of your viewers might have some opinions about that.
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You know, then maybe they can, um, maybe they can write.
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And the bottom, we could read this later.
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You know, that would be.
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There would be a lot of that.
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Type in, you know, what you think this might be.
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Cause I, yeah, I'm, I'm not sure.
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Creator will stand aside.
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So I don't know what that would mean.
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And then two vaults for examination.
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And then, you know, we, uh, Dr. Drew here again, Dr. Drew is connecting dots that, you
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Creator will stand aside.
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Remain on two vaults.
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And so he said vaults under the temple mount perhaps was his suggestion.
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Um, you know, Dr. Drew's here again, just, uh, leaping.
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He's really good at brainstorming.
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And then black 68 times six.
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And then he, in parentheses nine.
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So he, he thinks black symbols will create a picture 68 or 69 per line.
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And that's when, you know, he took the liberty of making these, uh.
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Where the boxes and lines create images.
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This sounds like another, this is like another little morph into things, you know, where the boxes and lines don't dispel very thorough information, but they're displaying imagery.
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And that's, yeah, that becomes like a fourth dimensional thing, perhaps.
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Maybe, maybe if we can put these into some type of like, cause on two dimensions, they look almost like an image.
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There's almost something there.
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Like it's not quite perfect.
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What if they're aligned up?
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Maybe if there's a different way.
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I think of the, the movie contact with Jodie Foster.
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If you think like a pagan, every three dimensional page contains a piece of the printer.
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There it was all the time staring you in the face.
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Buried within the message itself.
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The message itself is the key to decoding it.
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They were given like four, uh, six sides of a cube essentially to put together.
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You're good at those.
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You're good at those puzzle boxes.
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Maybe you can take this.
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And then copy it every, you know, the zeros and ones, like precisely how it is and maybe adjust it.
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And I mean, you're, you're good at those.
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Maybe you can solve that.
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Maybe, or maybe I can just help someone solve it perhaps, but yes, I would definitely take a crack at it.
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Um, I'm, I'm also going to leave the website, um, where you can find all of this below, which is, uh,
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crop circle connector.
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Maybe some other listeners, you know, have the ability to do this.
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That would be fascinating.
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It would be fascinating.
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I mean, it's, it's so fascinating, you know, you know, as, as, as this happens, you know,
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it's still blows your mind that, you know, if, if, if anyone sits back and thinks about it, when they go to sleep, everybody has dreams, right?
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You know, everybody does.
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Can you imagine if you close your eyes, if everyone closes their eyes for a minute and think about having that dream, waking up, grabbing a notebook and, and a pen or pencil and start writing down these boxes and lines that you see.
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And then you look at it as like just gibberish because you're not fully awake.
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And then you go back to sleep and, and the morning you shoot this over to somebody who's able to translate it.
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And it turns out to be something like several, several different meanings, several different messages all in one.
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And, and, and how they line up with so many other things.
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I mean, it is, it's, it's, it's essentially like, it's like a micro nuclear bomb going off in your head of how, how impactful that it could be.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, I'm sure people have had vivid dreams before, but these happen all the time with me.
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Are you afraid for your life?
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What, what makes you afraid?
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Sharing them, uh, is what, it worries me a little bit.
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I don't want to put the, um, family in, in jeopardy.
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I don't want, I don't want to bring negativity to, you know, to my household.
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You know, um, I'm a peaceful person.
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I mean, I haven't always been peaceful.
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Of course, in war, you know, you're, and in a military, you're, you're, you're just trying to survive.
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You're not, you're not a murderous savage that's running around.
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You know, you're, you're trying to defend yourself and defend the soldiers that are with you.
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And you're, you're just trying to survive it and move on and trying to do your job.
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You want to serve your country and serve it in the best capacity you can.
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So I'll never go against my country.
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I'll never go against, um, our armed services.
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You know, I'm, I'm proud of everyone I served with.
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So, um, I'm, I'm concerned that, you know, some of this information might, uh, upset someone or trigger someone.
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And that's not my intention.
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You know, I don't want to upset anyone in the government.
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I really don't, you know, I want them, you know, to have their own opinions about things, but don't, don't, don't bring violence upon anyone else.
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You know, because of this, you know, you, you're, you're, you're a free person.
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You could have your own opinions about it.
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Um, you can make your own judgments.
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I'm not telling you to believe what I have to, what I, what I've done, what's happened to me.
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I'm not asking anyone to believe it.
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I'm asking people to just accept the information and make your own judgments, make your own determinations of things.
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Uh, how, what do you get out of it?
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You know, I mean, because I get, I get something out of it.
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It's, it's wild to me.
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It's, it's, it's wild, chaotic.
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There's a lot of emotions involved in it.
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So, um, I'm asking everyone just to interpret it the way you want, you know?
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It's, um, it's definitely a big pill to swallow and, you know, it, it does tick so many boxes and it obviously connects so many dots to a lot of the lore that's out there.
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So it's, for me, it's, this is fascinating because it's one of those things that connects this like sort of lore world that we observe and research and the real world.
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And now we're like, wait a second, we have an actual link here.
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And that for me is, you know, really valuable in, in trying to decipher this whole puzzle.
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It's starting to combine.
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So there's, there's, it's starting to blend together.
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The more you look at it.
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I want to, I want to touch on a few things.
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Um, if you, if you're still.
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Uh, one thing you told me this really incredible story last night.
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Do you mind telling that the one that happened with the, uh, the females?
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Do you remember this one in, in the restaurant where you got locked out?
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Uh, where I got locked out.
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Um, so from base you, you, um, it was like 1030 at night was like the time you had to go back, but then you went back and it was shut down.
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But then like you went to this restaurant, you went to this coffee shop.
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Um, yes, this happened, uh, in Iraq.
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Um, I wasn't working at the time I was, I, I will, I won't go into detail.
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My, my job there, uh, as a civilian, but I, I was working on the installation and, uh, a, uh, fellow contractor was having a birthday.
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And, uh, this was out in your bill and, uh, your bill Iraq.
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And, uh, I had gone to his birthday at this location.
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And, um, it was a karaoke spot.
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And, uh, I played pool there from time to time.
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So, uh, I had gone and, uh, they had food and stuff.
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So I was eating food and playing some pool.
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And, uh, I knew I had, I looked at my watch at one point and I was like, oh no, it's almost time before they, they locked down the base and I can't get back on.
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And I'm like, oh my God, I gotta, I gotta go.
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And so I kind of rushed out and I said, thanks, thanks.
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And I took off to try to make it back to the gate and I didn't make it back in time.
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So they turned me around.
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I was like, man, I can't believe I missed that.
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And so I went right back and he was still there.
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And a lot of the other guys are still there because a lot of them lived and, uh, little apartments and stuff out there in Irribil.
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And so I was just like, okay, well, I'll, I'll go back.
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I can't get back on base now.
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So, um, I had work to do and I wanted to get back to my work, you know, because I kind of engulfed myself with, with my work.
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I have enjoyed it over, over the many years because I know what I'm doing.
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So, uh, I wanted to get back and I didn't make it in time.
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So I went back and hung out.
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Um, I stayed pretty late until about two o'clock in the morning.
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Um, and then I, uh, needed to kill time because everybody was going home.
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Everybody was spending time with, with each other and everyone was getting tired and rolling out.
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I decided I'm going to go down to the coffee shop with this other guy who, who didn't make time as well.
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There's a couple of us that didn't make it back in time.
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So we decided to go to this little coffee restaurant, uh, breakfast spot.
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And, uh, uh, we went and sat down and ate and ordered our coffees and, and, you know, I got my little egg breakfast thing going.
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And while we were sitting there, um, a buddy of mine mentioned that like, uh, okay, well, we, we're,
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not alone, there's more coming in.
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And I kind of glance over and this one guy and, uh, four females, they were, uh, dressed and,
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um, you know, um, flashy, um, Arabic, Arabic, um, attire.
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Um, so I, they didn't have their faces covered.
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It was just their hair that was covered, but, you know, vibrant colors, blues and purples and greens and gold and, um, silver in their, in their clothing.
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Uh, it was women dressed nicely had come in with this, you know, basic guy, you know, um, beard.
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Um, and the, as they were coming to the table, I noticed it had the brilliant, most brilliant colored eyes, blues.
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Oh, and most of them had like a blue colored eye, uh, eyes.
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And one was slightly violet, almost purple.
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And it was like, I was, they were staring at me and they had beautiful, beautiful eyes.
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A little bit larger than, than, than mine or yours, just a little bit and barely noticeable.
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But I just could not get over how bright and brilliant they were, you know?
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And it was like mesmerizing almost.
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And they were just staring at me and they walked right by the table.
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Two of us, he's sitting across, you know, from me and he's just kind of, he's kind of glancing over like, why are they staring?
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And he didn't say it out loud, but he's thinking like, why are they staring at you, dude?
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Like, did you say something?
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And I didn't say nothing.
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And, and then they, they just casually sat down.
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They didn't say a word the entire time that they were there.
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They never opened their mouth to speak.
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This guy, um, ordered everything for them.
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And all they ate was vegetables.
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All they ate was vegetables.
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The guy, he ordered like lamb and some other stuff and he got a coffee.
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They were just drinking water and eating vegetables.
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And it was just, it was weird to me, but why they were sitting there, they just kept staring at me.
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All, all, all, all the, all the women.
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No, at the same time, different times.
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They were, they would look over at me and then look at each other and look over at me.
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Almost like they were communicating without verbally, without verbal communication, but communicating, you know, nonverbal.
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And then I just kept hearing in my head, why are you here?
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What, what's your purpose?
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Like, why are you here?
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I kept hearing this in my head.
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Nobody else could hear it.
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He couldn't hear anything.
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And he's sitting across from me and we're trying to talk quietly.
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Like, dude, they're not saying anything.
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And it was like, I know they're not, nothing's coming out of their mouth, you know?
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And this guy already knows exactly what they want and they're not speaking.
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And the guy's looking at them and their eyes, they're looking back at each other.
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And then the guy's looking at me.
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I'm like, what did I do?
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Why am I, why are you, why are you staring at me so much?
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Do I look like an American that bad?
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I mean, yeah, I already know I don't fit in, but, uh, uh, you know, I, I tend to, I tend to just wear just plain regular clothes, you know, try to blend in as much as possible.
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I don't want to stand out, you know, the American and, and, uh, and, and, you know, I don't want to stand out too bad that night.
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You know, I w I wouldn't even play or planned on going out, you know, but I did.
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And it was just odd that they never said a word.
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The only one who spoke was the guy and the guy just seemed normal.
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And you kept getting psychic.
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I kept getting messages like, do you need help?
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What's your purpose?
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What, what, what's your purpose here?
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And I'm hearing it in my head, but not audible.
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And you asked your friend if he could hear it.
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He said, do you hear that?
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They haven't said a word.
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It's been dead silent.
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Only he, only he's been talking.
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He's like, that's all I've heard is him talking to, you know, to the waiter and stuff.
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And I was like, he's not hearing it in his head.
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And so I'm like, okay, well, I don't want, I don't want my friend to think I'm crazy.
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So I'm just going to keep this kind of, kind of to myself.
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But they're, they're talking to me in my head, like asking me if I need help or anything.
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And I'm in the back of my, in back of my mind, I'm not verbally saying it, but I was like, no, I'm okay.
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You're saying it to them.
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I'm saying it in my head.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know if the message was received or not, but I'm thinking it in my head.
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Just gotta, just gotta wait a few more hours so I can go back to work.
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You know, I'm just saying that in my head, I'm not speaking it.
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I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's being received.
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You don't know if it's being picked up.
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I don't know if it's being received, but I just kept getting like, do you need help?
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Do you need, you need help?
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Do you need assistance?
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You know, why are you here?
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What's your purpose?
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Like, yeah, yeah, help me out.
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Uh, yeah, it was a bit intimidating.
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You know, you, you don't want to offend people in their own country, you know?
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You want to be as most respectful as possible, you know?
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But also in that country, women are not staring at other men.
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No, that's the other thing.
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You, you know, that was another thing that was throwing me up.
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Did they look Arabic from their complexion?
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Did they look like a Middle Eastern?
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Yes, they, they looked Middle Eastern, you know, like from.
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Except with like light eyes.
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Very brilliant eyes and, and almost flamboyant, um, clothing.
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And the other thing that I noticed is they all had purses with them on their shoulders.
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Um, no, it's not unusual for a woman to carry a purse, but they never took the purse off.
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They were sitting down.
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They all had their purses still on their shoulders or draped over them.
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They never removed their purse.
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They never took it off and set it on the floor.
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They never rummaged through their purse.
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It just stayed there.
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And they continued to eat and drink and.
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That's a crazy detail.
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Stare at each other.
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Look at another person and stare at them.
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Like, and it was just like, what?
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So then they get up and leave.
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They leave before you?
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They left before us.
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So, I mean, um, they, uh, they finished eating and drinking their water.
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And, uh, he paid and they got up and were leaving, but they, as each one passed me by,
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they just staring me down.
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I mean, not aggressively.
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Not, I didn't feel, um, any sort of, um, feeling.
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There were emotion behind it and like nothing negative.
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More, more or less with curiosity.
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And, you know, when they walked by, they each looked at me with a pause.
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Like, I'm like, they were, you good?
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You know, just kind of, it kept hearing in my head.
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You know, this is the impression that I got, you know, as they walked out.
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They jumped in this little black SUV and took off.
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There's lots of them.
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They're all over the place out there.
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There's a book by a guy called Dr. David Jacobs.
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And, um, he basically did a lot of regression on experiencers and wrote, wrote a book called, uh, Walking Among Us, which is essentially talking about like how these later stage hybrids are kind of like hiding in plain sight, but also not too familiar with how to be human quite yet.
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And they're kind of learning from us.
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And so I hear a lot of these quirky stories of them emulating what people would do, but not entirely getting it right.
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And so one of those instances might be like keeping your purse on the whole time you're eating.
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Like, it's such a dumb detail.
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Uh, to, but it's an important detail to fit in, you know, but like to teach that, if you're teaching someone how to be human, you're like, oh yeah, you go out, you leave your purse.
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You don't always, maybe you forget to mention, oh yeah, while you're eating, put your purse on the ground, pick it back up before you leave.
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Like these are just small details that I can see someone overlooking who's trying to assimilate and trying to look human, you know, or.
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Right, right, right.
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And there was another story that, uh, Nick Pope was here and he was, he got a call about, uh, this group of people looking very strange and they, and they all get together to buy a single pencil at an art store with like a, a big denomination bill.
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It was single pencil and they're all kind of like looking.
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And then the ladies like gives them their change and they didn't know what to do with the change.
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They didn't know what, like, and so like, there's this interaction like, ooh, we're going to go buy a pencil.
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That's what humans do or whatever.
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And then not know that, oh, what is this?
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What are they giving me?
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Like having no concept of like that.
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I'm showing, I want this one thing, but you're giving me a bunch of things back.
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They're all buying one, like it makes no sense.
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And she was so scared that she ended up calling like the UFO hotline or whatever.
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When you got a group of people all standing in line to buy one pencil.
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That would, yeah, that would throw out some red flags in your brain quite a bit, you know?
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It just feels uncanny.
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We're only here to buy this one pencil.
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That would, yeah, that, that's very similar.
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There's like 10 people.
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It was a whole bunch.
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It was a whole bunch of people.
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Like we're all here to buy this one pencil.
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But you read a lot about those type of interactions where you're like, man, you, it's just, you're,
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you're, you're just adjacent to being a normal person, but there's something off.
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There's like some uncanny valley happening.
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There's something glaring right in your face.
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Holding that purse the entire time.
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So the purse the whole time was, was something that just threw me off.
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It was like protected with that one arm.
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Like nothing can happen to this purse.
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It must stay right on me this entire time.
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Almost like it was a life support thing.
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Do you know what's funny?
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You know what I mean?
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There probably nothing in that purse.
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There could be nothing.
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That's probably, they're probably just like, you know, trying to look human and be like,
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I need this purse, but there's.
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Or maybe it's something to protect themselves with.
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Because they're not familiar with human interaction.
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They're not familiar with, um, Muslim way of things.
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And especially women do not stare.
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At men like that, you know, with their faces uncovered.
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They didn't look drunk or anything, did they?
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No, they did not see me.
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Because like two in the morning.
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They were, they were sitting upright.
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Staring at each other.
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Casually eating, you know, not rushing, not, uh, sipping their water with elegance, you
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know, staring at me and, you know, just not just staring when they walk by, they stop,
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stopped walking and we're staring at me just just in a more mesmerized questioning way.
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You know, you don't do that.
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That's not, that's not a common behavior.
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It's a, it's a behavior that really stands out is uncommon.
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So, and I was trying to avoid staring back.
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I don't want to offend anybody, but I, it was, it was wild.
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And the guy that was with them, he seemed, he was not in charge of them whatsoever.
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He was just there to help.
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And that's another characteristic that jumped out at me because usually men are in control
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Over there, you know, with, with a group of women.
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He was also Middle Eastern.
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And that, that, that's something that was uncommon to me, you know, because usually
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when, um, a, let's say a coworker or a boss takes some of the ladies out for a dinner,
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You know, he's, he's, uh, he's both protecting them, feeding them and is usually in charge
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A bit of a chaperone type deal.
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He seemed like he was being chaperoned by them.
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Like they were in charge.
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Like they were in charge, but not saying a word.
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He ordered everything for them, but they didn't say it was like the entire, I never heard their
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Maybe they were controlling him.
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Besides in my head, but it was all the same in my head.
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They just grabbed some random human and they're like, we're hungry and ordered, you're going
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You're going to do exactly what we asked, you know?
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Hey, it's not a bad deal.
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Three beautiful Middle Eastern women taking you out to the more four.
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It was, it was wild.
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Might be a good time.
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These interactions fascinate me to no extent.
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Um, you know, as these, as these messages that you're receiving go on, do you feel, are
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you still, you're still, are you writing them all down?
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I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I do at.
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Times have, um, moments where I just need to take a break from it.
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Um, it is, it's, it's, it's hard to, hard to imagine, but it is, it's old.
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It's taxing on your, on your, uh, you don't want to lose touch with yourself as well.
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You know what I mean?
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And so there's, there's times where I just didn't, you know, write them down.
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Or maybe in my perspective of things, this is, this is not that important right now.
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You know, I got other things going on.
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And then they seem to slow down a little bit during those times.
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And then when I'm ready to start writing things down again, they, it picks up again.
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Do you ever try communicating back?
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Do you ever get answers to what you're thinking?
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Um, but very seldom.
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What's, what's an example of an answer you've gotten back?
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Like, Hey, I've got a lot of things going on right now.
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You know, I got, I have a kid getting ready to graduate.
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I've got, you know, I've got some things going on.
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I, I don't, I don't have time for this right now.
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And then it was just to calm down.
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Just calm down for a while.
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I mean, but it's just thinking through some of this stuff.
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Um, I've asked, uh, can you give me some more direct answers that are helpful?
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So something that I could, something I can articulate down, write down and it, and it's
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like epiphany for everybody.
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So we, you just give, you cut to the chase and just give me the answer.
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Stop giving me like some wild goose chase.
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Leave the cryptic South.
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Just give me the straight answer.
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And I get a response.
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It's like, no, you have to be educated to that level.
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And so that's the impression that I get that this happens for a reason.
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And it has to happen in the steps that are happening, that it's happening.
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And so they're not going to give you a straight answer.
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They're going to educate you to get that straight answer in time.
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You feel like you're progressing.
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I feel like I always feel like it's progressing, but progressing, not fast, but at the pace that
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it's supposed to progress at, you know?
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I've asked that specifically.
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Just give me the answer.
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Uh, just let me solve it.
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Let me put it out there.
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Let me get it out there.
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No, no, it doesn't work that way.
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Do you feel like they're holding things back from you?
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I don't think it's, I don't think it's anything bad.
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I think it's more along the lines of you need to understand.
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You need to understand things the way they work in order for it to progress further.
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You need, we need to, we need to ease you into things.
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Because, you know, it's, it's already like a super mind.
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I don't want to keep.
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This is a good, this is a mind fuck.
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It blows your freaking mind.
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And if they just threw everything at me at once, I mean, who knows what would happen
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Maybe this is a way to protect myself.
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You know, that they're, they're, they're gradually sharing stuff because I believe that
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that progression is needed.
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And then I specifically asked, just give me the answer.
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No, we won't do it that way.
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Do you think you were chosen?
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Like from like a young age, do you think that you've been selected?
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A lot of strange things happened when I was a child.
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And, uh, we talked about this last night.
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Um, I was, my parents were still together.
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My mom and dad were still married.
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Um, I was about four.
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And it was a time when I was about four years old, where I started waking up at
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different parts of the house.
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And it freaked my parents out when I wasn't in bed, when they go to wake me up for school
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and they couldn't find me.
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I wasn't under the bed.
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Cause sometimes I would go into the bed, you know, and sleep under there because I was
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I don't know what I was afraid of, but I was drawing a lot of pictures that my mom
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took away and hidden because I was drawing, I believe I was drawing, um, you know,
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grays and she didn't want our community, our neighborhood to think that we were crazy
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So she hid a lot of that.
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But, uh, I was sleeping under the bed because I was afraid when I was going to bed when I
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was little, you know, four year old seeing weird things.
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It could bother you, but, uh, well, they would, they would go in to wake me up and I wouldn't
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I wouldn't be in the room.
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They would find me in the garage sleeping, like on some, um, laundry that hadn't been washed
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They would find me on the back porch, locked out of the house.
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They would find me in random places around the house and outside of the house that I
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wouldn't, they'd go out and wake me up on.
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I've fallen asleep in a toy box on my back porch.
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You know, how can a kid sleep on toys?
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Kids can sleep in weird places.
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They can sleep hanging off of a bed sometimes.
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Um, that's when they started putting locks on the windows so that they couldn't be opened.
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And that's when, uh, um, the thing started to pick up.
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And there was one time where my dad was concerned and slept outside of my room.
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And, uh, because they would lock us in the room, me and my brother, they locked me and
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my brother in the room because they thought I was sleepwalking.
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And so my dad grabbed a chair, put it outside our bedroom door, you know, tucked us in and
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we went to bed and I'd hear him outside the door.
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Y'all stop laughing.
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Y'all stop cutting up.
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Go to sleep, go to bed.
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And so we'd stop talking and eventually fall asleep.
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Well, this particular time he was sleeping outside of the door and, uh, he had gotten
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up a couple of times, um, to stand up and stretch his legs and then lay back down and get comfortable
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and go back to sleep.
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But this morning, my, they go and unlock the door to go wake us up and I'm not there.
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And well, the door, the windows are all locked.
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I'm, I've been locked in my room, but I'm not in there.
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And they couldn't find me for a while.
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Um, I believe it was like 30, 45 minutes.
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They're starting to lose their mind.
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They called the police.
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They thought I had been kidnapped, but there's no, there's no way anybody could have gotten
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They don't know how I disappeared.
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And so they're looking everywhere.
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And when the police show up, they're taking information.
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There's a couple of police officers that were there from what I remember.
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And as some of them started to, to, to go scour the road or the, the area, one of them
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walked by my dad's car and saw my foot hanging out from some of my dad's work clothes.
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And I've had fallen asleep inside my dad's locked car in the back seat.
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I was sleeping in the back seat of my dad's car under some of his, uh, work coats.
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He was a security guard at the time.
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He was one of his jackets I was sleeping under.
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And they had, they were trying to get the door unlocked.
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My dad was looking for his keys.
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He found his keys and they unlocked the door and got me out.
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How'd you get in here?
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The door's been locked.
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And my dad found his keys like in the closet where he keeps them up top, where he keeps
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He just puts his keys up there, easy for him to grab.
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And, uh, yeah, I, I couldn't reach that at four years old and I couldn't lock myself
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in and go back and put the keys back.
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You know, I ended up in a locked car.
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Out of your locked room.
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Out of a locked room.
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In the back seat of my dad's car at four years old.
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You think you were abducted?
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You know, um, that's the impression that I get.
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Um, and it screams that, but, uh, you know, no confirmation.
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I, you know, I can't prove that.
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I don't, I don't, I'm not going to try to prove it.
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I'm just going to point out that, you know, my mom brought this up and she said it bothered
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her and she was worried.
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And she was pretty freaked out at this point.
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And so, you know, she was, she told me she was praying and doing a lot of things, trying
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And it eventually stopped, you know, it stopped happening and everybody like calmed down,
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It was a real ordeal.
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It was, it was quite a while.
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It was like, it was going on over.
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With the police involved and everything.
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This was like a one month timeframe or so in my young.
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But you do have some proof, um, of something and that proof you have on you, in you, I would
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I see where you're getting at with this.
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So it wasn't a while back.
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Uh, I, I, sometime 2021, right after I retired from the military and I was going through my
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BA stuff and, uh, starting to, we were looking for a house to buy.
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Um, place to settle down.
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And I started feeling some, having some abdominal pains, some, some strange abdominal pains.
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And, uh, I, I thought that there's, you know, I either, my appendix was about to burst
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or, uh, something was going on with me.
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I needed to get to a hospital and get checked out.
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So I, I, I, I took off, drove to the, to the hospital, uh, military, military hospital
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Uh, went to the emergency room and was getting checked out because I told him I was having
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a lot of weird abdominal pains.
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It wasn't feeling right.
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And it was starting to, it was intensifying and stuff.
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And so they were thinking that maybe my, something was going on with my appendix or something.
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So they went and they, they put me through some, some type of medical scanners.
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I want to say MRI or something, something similar to that fact.
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They took some x-rays and, and got me through an MRI.
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And why they were going through this MRI and which I think it's an MRI.
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong.
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But I guess it takes scans around like in a 360 degree location of your body.
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And it takes hundreds and, or lots of, lots of images so that they can see how things are,
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are, are affecting me and my body.
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And why they were doing that, they, they discovered a, a, a anomaly in my left hip.
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It was similar to the size of a BB, but maybe squished down a little bit.
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And it was about, you know, half, half my finger down, my pinky finger down, you know,
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not very large, you know, um, I would say half the size of a dime.
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Um, they, they said it glowed in a way that was metal.
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And it was, uh, the, the strange thing is why they're playing the video and seeing it.
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You can see my circulatory system.
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You can see, uh, blood pumping from my heart.
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You can see the pulsing from my, my, my heartbeat.
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And this thing had its own pulse that was different from the rest of my circulatory system.
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So this thing had a pulse to it as well.
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But to a completely different beat of.
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And this, I guess, uh, they said this had to have been some type of micronuclear, some sort of reaction or, or for it to show up the way it did.
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The doctors were baffled.
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They were, they were, I mean, my doctor was like, what the hell?
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And he came back with two other doctors, I guess, specialists in their field.
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And they were like, hey, we need to check you out.
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They didn't say anything at first.
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And it was like, why is there three of you?
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You know, what are three of you doing here?
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He's like, we need to check you out.
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Uh, can you roll to your right?
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And, and I rolled to my right and they removed the, they were moving the paper apron that they always make you wear.
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They were moving that paper apron around and just completely checking out my, uh, the back of my buttocks, my, my hip, my legs, my inner thigh.
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They're checking me out thoroughly.
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I was like, it doesn't hurt there.
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It hurts in my abdominal.
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What are y'all doing?
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We're, we're looking at something.
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We're looking for scarring.
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It was like, I don't have any scars there.
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He's like, you were military.
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You haven't even blown up?
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And he was like, no, not really.
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And I haven't been really blown up.
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Um, I have never received any shrapnel or anything like that in my career.
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So they were looking for, um, entry wound, old entry sites.
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Um, old injuries or old scarring.
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They were looking for scarring and I had no idea until the, you know, they finished.
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And so they said, ah, that's, that's super weird.
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And so the three of us are in here because you have some sort of metal object in your
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hip that is pulsing, um, different from your circulatory system.
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And we can see it on video.
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We would like to ask you if you want it removed.
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We'd love to remove it from you.
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And I was like, uh, and I said, I don't know.
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I had to think about it, you know?
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And the more I thought about it, I said, no, I'll have to talk to my wife first.
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Uh, and she's not here right now, so I'll, I'll, I'll talk with her and I'll get, I'll,
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I'll take it back to you later.
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And they were really trying to get me to have it removed.
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They were really trying to convince me.
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It was like, well, it's a foreign object.
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They're excited about it.
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It's not good for your, for your body.
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And it was like, is it, is it causing anything?
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Well, no, but that doesn't mean it won't cause anything later.
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And they were just trying to convince me like, you know, from a health perspective, you
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don't want metal and foreign objects that are, that are, that have some sort of, you
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know, energy associated with them in your body.
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Cause it's not good for you.
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And so they were going through my medical records and everything, trying to figure out
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what, what this is and where it came from.
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And there's nothing.
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And so they were, they were really trying to convince me to have it removed.
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And I, and as I was thinking about it, it was like, it's there for a purpose.
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It's not causing me any bodily harm.
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Why do they want to remove it?
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And it was like, well, maybe they want to remove it and study it.
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And I'll never hear from it again.
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So, and maybe it was put in place for a specific reason.
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So I decided not now I'm going to leave it there.
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I'm going to, and I talked to Linda Moulton Howe about it.
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She said, it's there for a reason.
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You don't want to remove it.
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And so, and so I said, okay, all right.
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Well, I told the doctors I'd give them a call back after I left.
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And I called them back and said, no, I'm just going to leave it there.
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It's not causing any problems.
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And I don't want to cause myself any more pain just so you guys can remove something.
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And then messed around with it.
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So I'm just going to leave it there.
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And they were like, seriously, really?
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We really want to, we really want to check this thing out.
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This, it looks, it looks crazy.
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And so I was like, no, I know, but I'm just going to leave it there.
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I don't know if it's there.
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Do you, there's no, you can't feel on the surface?
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I don't feel anything.
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It's like in the hip.
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It's, I want to say about an inch deep.
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In the bone or in the muscle or in like some type of ligament or something?
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It's not in the bone.
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It's just in soft tissue.
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In soft tissue somewhere.
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And, and it's far enough where I can't feel it when I'm pushing.
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You know what I mean?
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I, I had no idea it was even present.
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Also, you know damn well, as soon as they take that out, you're never seeing that thing.
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As soon as they take it out, it's gone.
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Happened to John Ramirez.
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They wouldn't even show me.
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They were, they were too, they were a little too excited about it.
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Happened to John Ramirez.
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At the CIA, he, uh, you know, had these frequent nosebleeds.
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He, he fell back on his chair or something.
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So they took him to, they gave him like an x-ray and they saw that he had scarring tissue
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from a, or sort of like an incision up in his nasal cavity.
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And there, and, and some, it seemed like fragments of something up there.
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And they're like, have you ever had an operation?
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And they're like, we'd like to remove this stuff from you in your nose.
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And at the same time, solder that incision and it'll prevent you from having these nosebleeds.
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And so they retracted, they extracted whatever it was he had in his nose and, you know, closed
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them up and, you know, it was all good.
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And then later on, when he was retiring, he remembers, he looks at his medical record
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and he goes, hey, can I get that back?
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And they go, oh, let us check.
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And they're like, nope, that's classified.
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And he goes, but it was in my body.
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And they're like, yeah, sorry, no, classified.
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So he called a doctor friend of his at the CIA who requested it.
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He could get access to it, but he wouldn't be allowed to show it to John either.
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What a whirlwind this has been.
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What a whirlwind this has been for, for you, sir.
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It has been a whirlwind to say the least.
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Something you're still going through.
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Can you, can you promise me something?
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The next time you get a transmission, if it isn't too personal, you'd share it with me?
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I don't want to keep anything, you know.
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From our progression.
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So yeah, I definitely will share.
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And let me know, you know, if you need my help with anything you got going on.
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I'm happy to help with whatever I can help with.
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And I think, you know, I really started thinking about this more when I was in Israel.
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You know, do I want to keep doing the same boring job forever?
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You know, and so there, there, you know, I, I worked long hours out there and very little
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time off, but some of that time off I would, I would use to sit at a park and just watch
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people interact, you know, walking their dogs and things and, and occasional children playing
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and just, just kind of taking things in and thinking about a lot of different things.
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And there, there's good people out there, you know, there, there's, there's families, there's,
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there's people who struggle, there's people who don't struggle as much, you know, and, uh,
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I just, you know, I'm just, uh, we're, we're all gifted with life and imagination and, and,
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uh, curiosities and, um, brilliance that a lot of us just go.
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Throughout their daily lives, not realizing they have, you know, and, uh, you know, I,
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And, and all, obviously the pursuit of something greater.
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Um, and I think it's important that, you know, you don't want to get stagnant doing,
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um, stuff that you're not, you know, that, that doesn't really interest you much anymore
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and you want to, you want to move on.
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And so if, uh, anyone out there has got some ideas, I'm all for it.
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I can make a living doing something I enjoy as opposed to, you know, just the same mundane
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And, uh, if anybody out there, you know, wants to dot some I's or cross some T's on this
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whole puzzle, um, check out our discord as well.
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It's a great place to reach out to me.
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Um, I'm frequently on there and I'll start a whole channel on this stuff.
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And so we can see people go down the rabbit hole and see what they come up with.
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Maybe I'll share that with you and maybe bring you into discord as well.
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And, you know, be a part of it so you can see what people are putting together.
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That'd be kind of cool, right?
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You know, it's, it's, it's always been crazy because there's a lot of things that just line
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up with other perspectives.
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And I'm always open to other perspectives.
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And sometimes I can help people solve things really quick with just, you know, well, hey,
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that sounds really familiar.
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I didn't think about that.
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It's like, you know, um, we weren't built to, to, to, to do things solo.
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We were, we were built to, to, to inspire one another and help one another.
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And so that's, you know, that would be great.
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And in the, uh, and in the great words of the emirthers, expose hidden knowledge to
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That's what we can be doing.
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That's what we're doing right now.
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That's exactly what we're doing right now.
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We're doing, we're doing a thing.
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I don't know about all the hidden, but, uh.
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We're definitely sharing.
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Well, a lot of this was hidden.
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I'm going to bring up, I got my phone in my hand, but not because I'm texting anybody,
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but because I'm bringing up the questions here from, I didn't want to.
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So normally I ask our members.
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A day before I give them like 24 hours to come up with questions.
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Um, but I just didn't.
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At that point feel comfortable putting anything about you out yet until this goes out.
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Um, just don't want to give anybody any reason to go and, you know, do anything or say anything
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This is going to be, you know, a bit of a surprise for people.
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And I want to keep it that way.
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Um, but I did reach out to a few friends.
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I don't have very many friends, but.
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I don't believe that.
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I don't believe that.
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We got one from my friend, uh, Jesse Michaels.
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So interesting question by Jesse.
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I asked him to ask any question and this is what he came up with.
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Have you dealt with Kit Green or any other psychiatrist associated with the CIA?
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Uh, one thing that Jesse might find interesting though, and this is something we talked about
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yesterday, you're part of a gifted and talented program when you were a kid.
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You were a magnet kid.
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I was, uh, I went to, um, a high school in Orlando, Florida.
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And, uh, I was accepted into the high school in the magnet program for the arts.
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And so I'm a little bit creative with drawing and painting.
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Um, and that's how I got in with that.
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I, I eventually moved into television and broadcasting communications as well.
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So yeah, I'm good at editing.
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Creative creativity.
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And, uh, uh, I mean, there's, there's kind of a tie into telecommunication here as well.
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You're a bit, you're a bit of a broadcaster.
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No, I, I, I like, uh, moving video.
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Audio music background.
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And, and, um, I don't know, more or less with, with music videos for my kids when they're growing up and stuff.
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Uh, my son was into BMXing and riding with his friend, uh, his friend, Chris.
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And, um, you know, Katie and Chris would, would, would go to the bike or the skate park and would do tricks on their bikes.
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And I was recording it and I put it together and some of the slow motion shots pulling tricks off with some music background and all lined up.
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So the, so when the beat hits is when the back tire hits the ground and it's, it's pretty cool.
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It's, it turned out pretty good.
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So, I mean, that's an interesting thing.
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Cause as Jesse knows, and I'm sure as a lot of people know here that like the gate program, the gifted and talented education was somewhat felt like some funnel for intelligence community, or at least people who were,
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were involved, uh, in the military in some capacity.
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And, uh, there's been many, many cases of that, like that at the top line, like that you go through these, you know, gifted and talented programs, but then like, there's like other levels that like you get put into.
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And some people, yeah, have, have found themselves into a bit of a pathway into the intelligence community.
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So it's just interesting that you had that background as well.
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It is interesting that, uh, military radar or field artillery radar was tied in with intelligence community.
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And, uh, a lot of times I was put in charge of, uh, our intelligence personnel.
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Um, you know, as I, as I got, you know, promoted and moved on.
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Um, so yeah, my, my, my job was essentially aligned with a lot of the intelligence community.
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Well, good question, Jesse.
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Thanks for asking, but no, no CIA psychiatrist interaction here.
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Um, we have one more question.
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It's from my friend, Luigi Vendatelli.
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He asks, do you know of any specific physical procedures used by the Zeta creatures when handling
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And now it doesn't have to be specific to the Zeta creatures, but could be to any, do you
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know of a specific, um, procedure that was done?
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Um, in my, in my dream or in what I remember the flashbacks I was having, um, I never saw
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any sharp objects or any medical devices going into me or onto me.
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Um, it was mainly, I just felt like it was difficult for me to move and I was feeling sharp
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pains in my neck and my, in my back, uh, region, but I couldn't see what was going on with my
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neck and my, I was, I didn't have an out-of-body experience.
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I was in, I was in my own body, so I couldn't see what was going on behind me and they were
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off to my peripherals.
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Um, so I don't, I'm not aware what was going on.
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Lower back, mid back, upper back.
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It was, uh, mid to upper back.
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And then, and then my neck.
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Was this prior to any injuries?
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Prior to most of my injuries, yes.
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You'd think they'd be nice enough to go back there and fix all that stuff too?
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It'd be nice, you know, if, uh.
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For tampering anyways.
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Well, it was an honor talking to you and it was an honor spending time with you and I'm
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really, really grateful for you coming forward.
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Um, one last question for me would be what made you come forward?
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Um, originally I wanted to protect my family, um, and, and just kind of live my life.
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Um, but, uh, you know, it's, it's one of those things that, um, I, I'm out of the military.
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I'm no longer in the military.
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Um, I'm, I've still done some defense contracts, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I believe I'm going to start
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moving away from that and find another passion.
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This is why I throw that out, you know?
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Um, and in order for me to do that, I need to be, uh, completely, uh, transparent with
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And so, uh, yeah, the Sergeant First Class CJ.
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But, uh, um, I am Jeremy Weeks.
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So, uh, I'll come out and say it.
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It's, it's, uh, I could lift the veil.
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It's, it's time for me to move on and move forward.
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And the only way we move forward is by being open and transparent with everyone.
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Well, I appreciate you very much, Jeremy.
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And, uh, and the world thanks you as well.
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Um, yeah, hopefully this is the beginning of, uh, a really fun and fulfilling rest of your life.
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And if you need any help, guidance, or what, anything I can provide, please feel free to
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You've been really awesome.
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And I really appreciate you having me.
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We are your creators.
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Altered your evolution over time from the beginning.
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Truth will come to all.
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We have been your protectors.
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You must prepare to defend yourselves.
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I'm not here to tell you that these messages are true.
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I'm not here to tell you that these messages are real.
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I'm simply relaying the information that was given to me.
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And perhaps with the help of the internet and everybody watching, we might be able to
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come to some type of hypothesis as to what these messages mean, who they were sent from,
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or why they were intercepted, if at all, by Sergeant First Class Jeremy Weeks.
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