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Good day and welcome to Reality Chick in the continuing series of full-length interviews
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with the people who were part of our UAP Primetime Special Hunting UFOs.
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Today, it's Lieutenant Colonel John Blitch.
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He was another of the interviewees who strongly backed the credibility of our primary interview
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in that story, Jake Barber.
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Colonel Blitch has an impressive CV. He's a former Pershing 2 nuclear missile battery commander,
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Special Forces Detachment Commander, and he was a troop commander at the Combat
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Applications Group, otherwise known as Delta Force, one of the most elite units in the US military.
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For those who are unfamiliar, Delta Force is a top tier one special mission unit
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along with the Navy's DevGrew, that's the SEAL Team 6, and the US Air Force's 24th Special Tactics
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Squadron. It's very rare to get someone with a Delta Force background speaking on the record
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and willing to step forward like Colonel Blitch. John's also been a program manager at DARPA,
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the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency, developing an expertise in artificial intelligence
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and tactical mobile robotics, as well as advanced camouflage systems for the individual war fighter.
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He holds a bachelor's degree in environmental engineering, a master's degree in math and computer
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science, and a second master's degree in cognitive psychology. This is not some ordinary grunt.
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He's an open-minded cognitive scientist who also served as a visiting professor at the US Air Force
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Academy, as well as a consultant for the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy,
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NASA and other agencies. And as you'll hear today in this full interview, he also has a fourth
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coming book on the abduction phenomenon in which he tells the story of his own encounter
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with non-human intelligences in H.I. He is Colonel John Blitch. So Colonel John Blitch, it's an
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honor to be talking to you. Well, thank you. It's an honor to be here with you. Tell me a little
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bit about who you are. What's your background? Well, I guess, let me see, in a nutshell,
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an army nuke turned, I guess, green beret, gabbled in hostage rescue, turned robot geek,
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turned cognitive psychologist. You were at the one stage at the very top, one of the elite of
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the American Special Operations People's. Well, I was, and I was part of that unit. I would say
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that I was tolerated while I was there. But yes, I did serve there for about three and a half years.
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Right. And in you were tied in the military? Did anybody ever taught you a fives?
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No. No. I have never had any official discussions about UFOs or actually terrestrials or
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interdimensional or anything. Did you ever think about it? All the time. Why? Till our audience, why?
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What happened to you? Several very deep emotional terrifying what I considered to be dreams at the time.
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And I still considered them to be dreams all the way up until 2018.
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And there were several incidents that convinced me otherwise that I could not scientifically
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attribute to dreamscape. What happened?
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So my dreams as a kid were terrifying beyond a normal fear. You know, I've been shot at, I've been in
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mock POW camps, slapped around. I've had a number of emergency response, very deep traumatic
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activities, pulling people out of wrecks. You're at ground zero, I wish you.
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Yeah, I was at ground zero. I was also at ground zero in two places. One was the Oklahoma City
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Bombay. The other was at the World Trade Center the day of not living that evening actually.
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So I've had plenty of trauma and reason to fear. But these other experiences were terrifying to
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the point of paralysis. And so I can't dismiss them as I have other and processed them as I have
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with other traumatic experiences. Are you okay about talking about what you saw?
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I am. If you know, you'll see a lot of times when I'm talking about some of these irrefutable
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experiences, I'll rub my arms or whatever because I get a chill down my spine and you get the classic
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chicken skin that is indicative of terror versus just fear. And I've a lot of my colleagues
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have to say. What happened to you? What were those traumatic incidents? So a variety of them
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in childhood, but again, I scientifically as a skeptic myself as a kid, dismiss those.
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And what did you see as a child? What do you think was happening? I saw beings through my bedroom
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window staring at me with huge dark eyes. Here we go. That scared the bodhisattva. And it was
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terrifying to the point of paralysis. And you told yourself as a child, it was some kind of dream.
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Not just me. I told my parents I would scream once I returned to a state where I could scream.
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So a lot of folks I know as a kind of psychologist. I used to claim that I was a kind of neuroscientist.
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I dabble in neuroscience. But cognitive psychology is very clear about a lot of behavioral
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mechanisms that we use when we're afraid. And paralysis with many of us when we're in that
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terror mode, you're paralyzed to the point where you open your mouth and you try to scream and
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you can't. And so it was like that. As soon as that paralysis was lifted, I screamed to Holy
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Hell and my parents came running in and they tried to calm me down. Both my dad and my mom, my dad
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was an aerospace physicist who I pushed back routinely on, especially for lecturing me about
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the great Santa Claus conspiracy. And it infuriated me that he was trying to push this ridiculous
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notion of this chubby guy orbiting the earth with a sack of presents like John Glenn who would
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even lecture me too. So I didn't take a lot of what he was telling me that there were no such
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thing as monsters. There are no such thing as little spacemen with big eyes and no such thing as
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amp people and just trying to calm me down. Much like I claim our government is doing to us about
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this subject. So let's start with that. Do you believe that we are being visited by non-human
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intelligences on this planet? So I'd like that you use that word belief because there's a
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broad range between belief and knowledge. I asked you last night where and when you were born.
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And a lot of us automatically consider that to be a fact because we're told it time after time
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after time and we're shown birth certificates. But that I don't know that I was born in Idaho,
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Falls, Idaho in 1959. I have to believe it because I don't have any alternative. But I do know
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that I attended Burke Elementary School in Peabody, Massachusetts in my young years. I know
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that I attended Peabody Veterans Memorial High School from all of the deep emotional experiences
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that I have. So emotion is a really, really important aspect of this. So I know that the reason
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that I believe that we, well, I'm going to say that I know that I was visited by non-human
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entities. I know that from childhood. From, no, I believe in retrospect that those childhood
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instances were the same nature. But I have three, what I consider to be irrefutable experiences.
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Okay, let's talk about those irrefutable experiences. What convinced you that irrefutably there is
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a non-human intelligence that's been engaging with you in particular? Okay. Number one,
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dreams don't cause bruises. And I had, I woke up after a terrifying night with some very
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mysterious circumstances surrounded by my, prior to my going to bed. I woke up with three
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dark bruises on the inside of my right bicep. Now my left, just my right, and there was another
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bruise up here. And the only way that I can imagine those bruises occurring was with that sort
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of a grasp. That three thing did happen. Four fingers because one was on the back.
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Osprey's, yes. Sorry. Yeah. I don't, I could not, and I racked my brain time after time to try
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to come up with some way that I could have those three almost punctured kinds of bruises on the,
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I can't even, I can't even reach that. But there's another aspect of the, of the anomalous behavior
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with that. And that is as soon as I got up in the morning, I went straight downstairs to get a video
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camera to film it. And that is totally an anomalous behavior for me. Now I'm no, you know, like a
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lot of Tier 1 guys, I'm no stranger to the gym. But I've never done, you know, body building or
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posing or any of the rest of that stuff. I've never taken a picture myself in the mirror.
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Why the heck would I do that on that particular morning? It's, it's, it's, it's not a rational
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behavior. Do you believe you've been abducted? That experience leads me to believe that. Yes, absolutely.
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Because I clearly didn't want to go if something, somebody or a nonhuman entity, I think it was a
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biological robot. But I didn't want to go where it wanted me to go. So technically, that is the
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definition of an abduction, right? You never had any exposure to UAPs in the course of your
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operations. Never. No, I've been written on the number of special activity or special access
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programs. I started one myself and didn't get anywhere. It was canceled about a month after I
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started it. So I've been in that realm quite a bit, but none of it had anything to do with
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UFOs, alien, or anything like that. What do you think of the idea that we are being visited by
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a nonhuman intelligence? I mean, why would a nonhuman intelligence, an alien being
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sneak into your bedroom at night when you're a little boy? Yeah. So to me, it's a, it's a
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numbers game, right? When you, when you look at the age of the earth, when you look at the, the
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billions of stars seen by Hubble and then galaxies seen by Webb, I mean, the numbers are just
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astronomical. So when all of that stuff, it makes no sense that we're the only, it's such an
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arrogant perspective to take the breath the only ones. So in and amongst all of that,
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a wide variety of visitors have come to our little island in the ocean, just like a wide variety
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of visitors came to the West Indies and came here and there. So here's the counter question I would
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oppose to anybody that would ask me this. I'd oppose to you. If you were part of a culture
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sailing from Australia, you know, Westward or Eastward, wherever you want to go, and you come across
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an island full of life, are you just going to sit there or are you going to study it? It is a
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natural curiosity that all beings have. And so I believe that at least one or two, from my
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perspective, two species are visiting us and I feel like many other abductees like a lab rat
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that we are being prodded and poked and experimented with as part of scientific discovery.
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You're a former very senior high-ranking tier one operator. Okay. I consider myself
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middle management, but that's okay. You've had a top secret SCI clearance at times? Oh, far
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before going into the outworld, I had a TSSCI and a bunch of other clearances as a nuclear weapons
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delivery officer. You were entrusted with guarding nuclear weapons and deploying them if necessary.
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Oh, no, not just guarding them. I was a Pershing-to-Missile Battery Commander. Not a very good one.
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I happened to be placed in charge. I was blessed with the opportunity to get grand troops on
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five separate occasions. The first one of those was as a Pershing-to-Missile Battery Commander.
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But the particular point about people who are put in charge of nuclear missile silos,
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Nick nuclear missile batteries, is you have to be emotionally stable.
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Yes. And the way that we established that is through the personnel reliability program, the PRP.
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And so one of the critical factors there is that as a BC, as a battery commander,
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every morning, I had to review the six slips for everybody under my command that went on sick
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and I had to determine whether or not they were still fit for nuclear duties. So if anything,
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if there's a domestic disturbance at home, if they get administered narcotics, I have to remove
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them from their duties. And it's a problem because others got to fill in for them. So it's a
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problematic situation. So all of them, all of us, were heavily scrutinized. More so than even some
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of the other UAP witnesses. I know I have the utmost respect for David Fraver, Alex Dietrich,
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for Ryan Graves, and all of the credibility and reliability that they have to fly that $15
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million, $18 million, $30 million, but it's different when you can start World War III.
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And if 18 is going to start World War III unless it launches a new, my guys could start World War III.
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And so those records, their medical records are actually locked away in a separate part of the
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clinic under intense scrutiny because of that factor. So John Blitch was a particularly stable
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person to be in charge of a nuclear missile battery. That might be a good question to ask.
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My daughters are my wife. But arguably, I'm not telling you that the United States Army is telling
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you that because they kept me in that role. And you are saying you've had encounters with no
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human beings. Not just me. There are four other peer-p-qualified military abductees who have
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gone on record. And so this is my question to you. Terry Lovelace is probably the most
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problem I've all in my words. Good rich, Bob Jacobs, so I know what you've talked about. And of
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course Robert Hastings, who investigated all this and himself was on their teeth. Here's the thing.
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Is if you can't trust a sergeant who was in the PRP and had this experience and then went on to
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lead the Air Force and not only rise up through the ranks as a prominent lawyer, but become a prosecutor
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and an assistant attorney general for the State of Vermont. If you can't trust that guy.
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You're talking about Terry Lovelace. Yes. Who are you going to trust? And I challenge anybody
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in Congress. So does the level of credibility? There's a correlation, obviously, between your
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involvement with nuclear weapons and your encounters with these beings. But do you think there's a
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causation? Do you think the fact that you were involved with nuclear weapons in such an intimate way
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caused them to take an interest? So I sponsored a what we call the Glamp out here recently where we
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all get around to fly. There are things that military people tell each other around a flyer
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that they'll not tell anybody else. It's kind of like the proverbial hairdresser.
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Right? Your confessions, hairdresser confessions.
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And we bantered that around. We've been around around the horn collectively.
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Chicken or egg, horse or car. Did we get grabbed because of our proximity to the nuclear industry?
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For me, there's another level because I was born next to a nuclear reactor. The Army's first
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nuclear test reactor in Idaho, Falls, Idaho. That's where I was born. And so I have to I have to
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wonder about that. So what I do know from our own science, our own behavioral science and biological
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science is we would grab polar bears. We would abduct polar bears in the Arctic and do the same
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thing that they do to us. We scoop their fat. We take tissue samples. We process that tissue
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to analyze whether or not the evil Russian Empire was launching nukes in excess of 20 kilotons.
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50 kilotons, a megaton. And so it's really important to not only analyze what the yield on
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those weapons were, but what the magnitude of the absorption in the entire bio, the vegetation
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and the bio-accumulation of that vegetation into the animals. So why wouldn't they do that with us?
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It makes all the sense in the world. The logic of it is irrefutable.
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A lot of people watching this are going to be going, this is insane. You're saying you've been
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abducted. You're in charge of nuclear weapons. So if I'm insane, why did you put me in charge of
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nukes? Why did you let Mario Woods secure those? Why did you let... And he has another irrefutable
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experience where his truck ends up in the middle of Arctic tundra in South Dakota, covered with ice
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and snow. And here's the circle of mud. No tire tracks. Here's this truck.
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Just been dropped back. How does that happen? So you believe... That's not a dream.
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Ali and beings are visiting this planet and taking an interest. There's no doubt that.
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There's no doubt in my mind. Anyone. I can dismiss my childhood dreams. I can't dismiss
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bruises on my arm. I can't dismiss my kids and my wife telling me that I was gone for five hours.
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Approximately for a one hour bike ride. So let's tell that story. I find the bike ride story
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fascinating. Do it. What happened? I had returned from Oklahoma City, pretty traumatic
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situation where there was an amputation from somebody we had that was me, but her leg had to be
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amputated just to get her out of the rubble. A lot of people don't realize the horrific decisions
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that incident commanders have to make in collapse structures. Because you have to make the call as
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to whether or not to bring in heavy lift material, you could be literally squashing potential victims
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as you bring this just to get to other victims. So it's a horrific decision to have to make.
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So very traumatic. I had a lot of that going on in my head. So I adopted a mountain bike ride,
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meditation protocol on the weekends to ride from my house, which happened to be in a little sprawling,
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little yuppie kind of suburb of Denver called Highlands Ranch. And at that time in 1995,
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MacArthur Ranch was an undeveloped area. So it was about seven miles away. And so I got on my
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mountain bike and I would ride up to a place called Daniels Park, which is now heavily developed.
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But at that time it wasn't and it was a gorgeous place to go up and meditate with the Rocky Mountains.
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I used to claim that it looked like a course light backdrop. I'm looking at a beer tin
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and it was amazing. So I would go up and sit on, they have a bunch of, at that time,
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they were concrete. I think they'd been filled in at this point, picnic tables. And I would meditate,
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just like I learned through my martial arts training, it was wonderful. And so I would be totally
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calm and relaxed after that. And it was a moderate climb up. It wasn't anything that got me
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into a high zone. It was a, it was, I would barely break a sweat. It wasn't a particularly
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difficult climb. And so on my way back down, and I'd done this ride several times before.
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And on my ride on the way up, or I came, there's a dirt road at that time. There was a chain
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length fence with three strands of barbed wire along the top. And I thought that was very curious
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because why would a farmer, what do you farm in back there? Is that a little bit of, you know,
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this before marijuana was legal in Colorado. So, but then I saw a sign that said,
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Indian barrier grounds, please respect and keep up. So, it made sense to me. Now, I am my great-grandfather
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took an Indian wife as part of the migration. So, I have, I guess, some portion maybe an eighth
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of my bloodline has Native American background. And I've always been very respectful of that
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culture. Which try it? Sue. Right. And so, he can stir up the boat from Scotland and made the,
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made a launch across there. So, I had never, I was mildly curious, but I had never
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entertained even the slightest notion of violating that request.
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And on the way back down, I'm gliding along and all of us, so I go past it. And suddenly there is
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an urge, sort of an uncontrollable urge that I got to get in.
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It's the Indian barrier grounds. Yeah. So, I turn my bike around, get off my bike.
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I go back to some of my special forces training and you get, you know,
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I go into Jason Bourne mode, right. I'm trying to figure out how am I going to get over this
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dog on fence. And then I noticed that on each side of the fence there was a, there's a gate with a
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lock, but the gate isn't as heavily um, barricaded as the fence. And it dips down a little bit. So,
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oh, so we naturally were trained to look for little niches like that. So, I climb up the pole,
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throw my, or toss my mountain bike over the top, catch my jersey in a couple places and get
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back down. And I'm about to get on it. And then I have this again respectful notion come
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willing up. Nope. I'm not going to ride. I'm going to walk my bike and just be respectful and see
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what's back there. So, I do. Come around a corner, long dirt road, and I'm just kind of,
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hobble along my little bike shoes. And I feel a little bit of moisture on the tip of my nose.
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And I'm curious about it because I haven't been working hard on the way downhill to sweat.
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So, it must be sweat. And so, I kind of ignore it. And it drops onto my hand on my handlebars.
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I had these weird ramshade handlebars and I had duct tape across it to hold my GPS. So, I was
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I was involved in the very early testing of small portable GPSes for the entire special operations
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community primarily because I'm convinced I was lost more than any detachment commander in
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the history of special forces. So, they gave me a bunch of these gizmos, me and a couple of my guys
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and we tested them out. So, I was a I was a techno geek and I was all about GPSes. So, I'm looking
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down and I do a double take because it's not clear. It's dark. And then I realize we shock
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that it's blood. And so, all of a sudden, I get this kind of a gusher bloody nose, which I had not
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had since I was a kid. Now, I have had my nose broken on multiple occasions twice by women,
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I believe it's not testing for my black belt. And in a relay, a midly relay where I swim, I think I
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was swimming a butterfly and the the elegant hit me in the face on the way into water. So, it's not
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unconscious and consumable or abnormal. But it was abnormal in the sense that I had gone a year we
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had been living in Denver's for years. So, it wasn't that I was desiccated from the high desert
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air. And it was sudden and it was vigorous. It wasn't a slight drip. So, it was just kind of weird.
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So, of course, boys out training. I lay down, put my nose back and I'm figuring, well, I'll just,
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I'll get back up here in five minutes, get back on the bike and continue this and then eventually,
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I'll get back on the bike and ride on. And as soon as I lay down, I am out. I am unconscious.
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And the next feeling I remember is like a very deep chill. Like I had been sleeping outside,
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sleeping back. I was chilled to the bone. It was a core temperature problem. And so, I bolt up
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right and I grabbed my bike and there's a there's a light so that this road had turned like this.
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And so, I was at this corner and I did a very curious again, a non-less behavior that I can't
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explain. Instead of getting walking my bike down that road or getting on my bike because I was cold
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and walking the rest of the way downhill, gradual decline, I feel compelled to climb up through
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this scrub oak scratching at my legs and they were bloody and scratched up, you know, when I found
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to go home, to go up to this light. I'm like a moth to this flame. And now I was a graduate student
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student at the Colorado School of Minds. I was still an active duty, but Colorado School of Minds
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naturally, I'm used to seeing mining apparatus. So, my mind goes there and I think, oh, this must be
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a drill rig. I'm not sure what people would drill at night instead of during the day, but I'm not
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thinking any of that. I'm just like, okay, so I am naturally again drawn to this thing in an
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anomalous behavior to go uphill and through a crazy route to get up on to this plateau. So, I
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get up there and I see what I think, but it's a very fuzzy memory is a fuel truck. And so, I walk
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my bike along and I purposely put my bike between me and the truck. There's something about the truck
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that doesn't feel right. And I position the bike and as I go past the cab, I look into the cab
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because I want to talk to somebody and see what the hell's going on. And what I remember in my
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mind is I is a red plaid shirt. And I don't have an image of the face. I feel like it's a male
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presence, but I don't have an image of a face. Is it hidden? I don't know. At that point,
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as a conscious memory, I don't know. What I do remember is stopping, becoming terrified and not
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wanting to go anywhere closer to the light. And I turn around and I sneak my way back around the
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back of the truck. And there's this some sort of activity over here. And I sneak my way back
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around the back of the truck. And I am dragging my bike through scrub brush until I finally come
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up on an open road. It was the scrubbed there. The scrubbed oak there would have been
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very difficult. I don't like the word impossible. I don't like ever always or any of those
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absolutes. But it would have been very, very difficult for me to even get one pedal stroke through it.
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So I made my way to this dirt road. And as soon as I got to that dirt road, I jumped on that bike.
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And again, with sheer abject terror, pedal that bike as fast as I could to get the hell out of there.
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Huge adrenaline rush. So I make it up this gradual incline. And now I'm coasting down this dirt road.
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Never mind. It's taking me in the opposite direction. I need to go home. I just need to get out of there.
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So I remember coasting down this road. And I'm thinking, okay, well, it's after
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dark. It can't be that long after dark. I mean, it was a middle-way afternoon for crying.
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Huck, you know, it was a nosebleed. It's not like I was knocked unconscious. And I didn't fall off my
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bike or anything that would have explained that longer term of unconsciousness. And as I'm riding
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down, I start thinking about, oh, geez, Cindy, my wife is going to be worried about me. So I'd
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probably ought to call her because it's probably later than I think it is. So as I'm coming down
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and I see this lone ranch house off to the right, as you may know, a lot of the ranch world
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leaves a light on. Right? It's the old red roof in. We'll leave a light on for it. And there was one
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light on. And so I deviate and I'm going to go up and knock on the door and ask them to use their
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telephone. This is 95 no cell phones. And I stopped. I skidded to a halt because I suddenly
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realized there are no lights on in that house. So then I realized it has to be really. It's not
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an hour or two after sunset. This is really, really late. So I get back on my bike and I cruise down
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and finally make it to this hard ball, which I now know is Highway 85 and I've taken this trip
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since then. And I hit the wall. It's kind of like a bonk during a bike race or any endurance race
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where you are just devoid of any fuel. And I was barely keeping myself vertical. So I'm cranking
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and I use an odd number of counts. One, two, three coast. One, two, three. And I make it about a mile
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until I get to this. And there's another indicator of how late it is. There's very little traffic
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every now and then maybe once every five minutes a car goes by. And I don't have any reflective
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lights or anything. This is an afternoon ride. So I remember climbing up this hill and there was
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a 7-11 and I pull into this 7-11 and I had some emergency cash on me. It just typical mountain viker
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stuff. So I make it into the 7-11 and in the front of the windows, I prop my bike up against it.
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And I noticed that there's a police cruiser pulled up and the windows are down. And as I'm walking,
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clicking along past this police cruiser to go into the 7-11 because I'm severely dehydrated. I am
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dying of thirst. And so I thought I'd hear my name come across this police radio, which is weird.
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So I go in and I get three large 32-ounce orange gatorade jugs. One, I open the top and
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chug it before I even get to the counter. And the clerk is looking at me and I plop that down
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and I put a 20-on and they're like, okay. And so I leave it, the empty one, and the neck go outside.
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And as I exit the store, the cop gets out and comes up to me and says, excuse me, sir, is your name
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John Blitz? And I said, yeah. And he said, okay, well, I just want to let you know that your wife
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put out a missing persons report. And I've already called in that I thought that was you.
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And can I hop you right home? Now this is where the athletes ego would normally say, oh no man,
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yeah, that's like asking me to carry my rucksack. How dare you? What an affront? What an affront to my
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physical stamina. But what I really said was, oh yeah, thanks a bunch. Because I felt like I
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run a marathon. Was it a fuel track? I don't know. I can't tell you. You think you would take it?
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What I don't want to get into is a reconstructed memory after a hypnosis.
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You just done a night. What's that? You just done a night. At that point, I did not know.
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What do you know now? What I believe now is that, yes, I was taken. And
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I'm very clear in my book about what memories I have consciously. And then what memories
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are reconfigured, re-strung together in a regression, hypnosis regression session.
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You've been a warrior, but you're also, you have a doctorate.
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Yes, I have a master's degree in math and computer science with a focus on artificial
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intelligence and robotics. That was my first trip. That's what I was studying when this event happened.
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There was another very, well, two other curious events at that time. But later, after, let me see,
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after running my search and rescue business, and I had to shut that down after
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destroying my femur, like threading event, I'd love to, it happened immediately after
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Hurricane Katrina. I'd love to give you some wonderfully erotic story. But the truth of the
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marriage, I was goofing around on the jet ski and ran it into a dock and got infected, had to
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lay everybody off. Then I went back to graduate school second time for a second master's degree in
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problem psychology and a PhD in quantum psychology. So you've got a master's degree in psychology
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and a PhD? You know when somebody's suffering from a delusion or a psychosis or a hallucination.
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Was it that? Well, let me back up a little bit because I'm not going to, I appreciate your
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supreme confidence in me, Ross. But I am not a psychiatrist. So I am not trained to diagnose
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who's crazy and who's not. That being said, yeah, I have a lot of training specifically in
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mental state of robot operators. That's what I focused on. I use EEG this way. Why I used to call
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myself a neuroscientist, but I'm not. In fact, it matters I use neurophysiological equipment to get
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at how people are thinking when they're driving robots around. So based on that, and again,
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I'm not crazy, not because I'm claiming it because the US military and the army and then the
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air force say that because I wouldn't have had a clearance. What I do have now a distinct
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appreciation for is the crisp memories versus what I consider to be manipulated memories.
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It's a very clear thing for me because when I was in that classified organization,
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we didn't use typical military name tags. So facial recognition is a party brand called
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a fusiform face area that is specifically lights up when you're trying to recognize faces.
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And so we know this through occupations that are inherently dependent upon facial
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recognition. So I'm not going to claim my ego wants me to claim that I have some sort of
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idetic memory. That's not true. That's not the case. But I had a really good memory of faces.
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And I can't get over. I couldn't at that time get over the notion that I couldn't remember that
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face. So something was screwing with your perception, you think? Yes, absolutely.
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If something's capable of screwing with your perception, how do we know what it is and how do we
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have any idea of whether it's benevolent or malevolent? Yes, so concurrent with that experience,
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there were two other experiences that are very crisp for me and independent,
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independently corroborate. The first was walking into a mall. My youngest daughter and I were late
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to link up with my oldest daughter and my wife. We cut through a Barnes & Noble
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and we're walking along and she's in a rush because she wants to link up with mom because mom
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is going to take her clothes shopping and get ready for the school year. And I stopped
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dead in my tracks because as I was walking along, I glanced over to my right and there was a bookshelf
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kind of like those shelves there. And there was the, with the extreber book community.
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All right, with the alien face on the front. Yeah. And all I had to do was glance at and
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see. All I had to do, this is what happens. This is the tingles that are going up. So it's
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very real to you. Say that again. It's very real to you. There's no doubt in your mind that it's
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real. Oh, it's a physiological response. I mean, I am on the edge of terror right now. And I've
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recalled this hundreds of times. But every time it's still, so looking at that face and I froze
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in the middle of that store, my daughter walked all the way out of the store,
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realized that wasn't behind her, came back in and then the middle of my paralysis looking at that
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face, there's a tug on my hand. And she's like, Dad, come on, we're already late. And she brings me
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out of it. So this is again, anomalous behavior. So we go link up with my wife and I turn right back
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around and I go up and I buy that book. And as soon as I pay for it, I rip the cover off and I
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crumple it up and throw it in the trash. What had it done to you to make you feel that terror?
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I don't know. Do you think there was something? Or was it just the look of the face, the
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strangeness of the face? So looking back to the childhood experience, that face was identical to
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the faces that were looking at me through the window, more anomalous behavior. I would have to
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close almost in an OCD like obsessive compulsive disorder type of behavior. I would have to check
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the drapes and lock the doors five or six times. It's that behavioral aspect of this that I can't
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get away from. The idea behind what we're discussing in this story is that a group of men
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are coming forward to corroborate that the government is aware of a non-human intelligence
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engaging with this planet. Yes. That it's lying. I mean, as recently as a few days before this
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interview. That the government's lying. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, the abduction sort in my book, I have a
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chapter called The Elephant in the UAP Room. To me, the abduction phenomena is the linchpin to this
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whole thing. And what it does is it gives the cabal, if you want to call it, the lying, cover-up
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organization or loose organization, whatever it is, everybody involved in that cover-up
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away up. And the reason is that there is nothing more terrifying as a parent to have your kids
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taken from you, kidnap from you, while you are sitting there paralyzed, powerless to see it,
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powerless to do anything. What do you think of a government that's concealed such a secret
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if this is true? Yeah. So this is what I haven't been able to resolve through 65 orbits around
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the planet and 25 of those in the US military as an active duty new SF DARPA program manager.
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And then another seven years as a senior scientist for the Air Force, that the government is full
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of great people. They, especially the military folks, firefighters, law enforcement folks,
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none of them get paid for enough for the risks that they take compared to other folks that,
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you know, you take a high school class, the folks that go into the military versus the folks that
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go to law school or learn a trade and become million gazillion billionaires, whatever.
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There is a selfless service of joining the military. I know that a lot of the civilian world
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look at us kind of like Colonel Jessup from a few good men, you know, you can't handle the truth,
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right? The way we look at ourselves is, hey, look, we're more like kind of rocky in the Balboa thing.
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Look, the world's not sunshine and rainbows. So this gives them an out that we can't protect you.
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What I want my government to admit to me is, sorry, we were powerless. I don't think we're powerless
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anymore. You heard dead grusher's testimony about, you interviewed him, about the crash material
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process. I know you've recently interviewed some other folks with direct personal experience,
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not just watching reports, the folks that have been involved in that. And what makes sense about
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that to me is that the reason why Dave is still alive and Lou is still alive and a lot of other
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whistleblowers are still alive is I believe that we now do have the ability to protect some of us.
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We do have the ability to shoot down some of these craft and to interfere with this kidnapping
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abduction process. I consider it a universal right of any being, any living species to be able to
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protect their children. So what makes total sense to me is a government that has kept it secret
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just like we would keep secret from our own children. Look, there's Mr. Jones down the street there.
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My wife and I know child molester. I'm not going to tell my kids that. Just stay away from this
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house. But dad, he's going to pay me $50 just to shovel his driveway. Stay away from him. Why?
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Don't worry about it. So I think that's where we are with our government.
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Nearly a year ago, I asked you if you could help me check somebody out. Yeah. His name was Jake
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Barber. Yep. And you took him out on your boat. Yeah. Off Santa Monica. And you met him and some of his
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team. Yeah. Special operators configure each other out. Can't they? You know, as tier one operators,
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you know whether somebody's embellishing their record. What was the impression that you gained
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of Jake Barber and his colleagues? Well, so you asked me a while ago to give it some thought about
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why I believe it. Several reasons. Top of the list is demeanor. We do have that ability to
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recognize the way someone cares himself and the way they present themselves. If it's one person,
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that's one thing. Four folks all acting in that manner. Hard to dismiss. Second is documentation.
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And the documentation that I have been provided from these folks is lines up very consistently.
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And the third is the behavior. So you have demeanor as one thing. Behavior is another. So
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as a leader, I feel compelled to take risk first. So I laid out three forms of identification. My
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passport, my military ID. I think it was my maybe it was my Air Force Academy ID and some of them.
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And without hesitation, every one of them laid out their ID. I was looking for a little hesitation
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because it was four against one. And these guys could kick my butt up, point down down the other.
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I'm worried that they're going to slip my drone and they're going to dump me over
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over the side and they're going to sail my boat. I don't know. I was very, I don't know.
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So those points, but the key aspect of it is that their stories connect the dots.
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The dots of why keep this a secret. Right? Why are we trying to so when you compare this
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to the Manhattan Project, right? Which a lot of folks do. Manhattan Project was kept secret for five
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years. Thousands of people involved in that. Five years. How the hell did we keep this secret?
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We're going on 80 years since food fighters were originally reported. And that's one of the
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arguments that people often make to me that it's impossible to keep this kind of thing. And it's not
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a secret. We're talking about it. I don't know. We're talking about it. The secret is out.
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And it has been out from the get go in open literature. So I think I mentioned to you,
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I'm kind of part of the invisible college. I've been studying this since grade reading my
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dad's books. He has, and what's interesting is he and I have both purchased
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multiple books. He passed away and I have inherited his library. Now I have duplicate copies of them.
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I would say 25% of that library is duplicate between the two of it. So everybody else, while they
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are on boring century duty and they're reading comic books or I'm reading this. Could what you've
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experienced and jaken his colleagues have experienced just be a bunch of special forces guys
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deluding themselves? Is it possible? Sure, it's possible. Is it probable? Down.
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Occam's razor cuts through all of those. Every single, so when you're connecting dots, I like
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in this to my grandkids sketched by numbers set, right? Where you got to connect 15 or 30 or
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50 different dots. Their story connects all of the dots. So the implications of these
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means allegations of Jake's allegations. The implications of Jake's allegations are that there is
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a UAP crash retrieval program that we, the United States, together in collusion with some private
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aerospace companies, is concealing lying to the American public and the world
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about the existence of non-human intelligence engaging with this planet.
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Sure. And I am okay with that. I was okay with that lie up until the turn of the century in
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9-11 because it is so terrifying. Look, lights in the sky, that's not terrifying enough to keep
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a secret. Even the fact that some of those lights in the sky are cracked with beans on board,
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that's not terrifying enough. That's not something to protect society from.
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Kidnapping, plucking children from the bed with their parents or off of a mountain bike or while
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they're at school, the aerial school. I know you're familiar with all of those. And of course the
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West all cast. West all. Yeah. I know you're familiar with all of those. That is a level of terror that
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would threaten any sort of society. So this is interesting. You think that one of the reasons for
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the government cover up, and it's only a very small number of people, obviously in the government who
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do know about this, I doubt a lot of presidents have been told about this secret. You think that a
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large part of the reason for the cover up is because the abduction phenomenon. It is dewey's.
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Is real. It is the linchpin to this whole thing. Imagine your Harry Truman 1947.
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Precise, pieces broken out all over. And you get brought or you are shown, wreckage of egg-shaped
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craft, discs, abaccato, shaped craft, and bodies inside that are clearly not human. And mixed in with
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that are human body parts. What are you going to do? So you've had the haligashii.
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Oh, there are many stories about that within the special ops community. Because we're the folks,
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you know, in, so during Vietnam, there was a, there was friction between the Air Force and the Army
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in particular in the Marine Corps, where if a pilot went down deep in the jungle and the closest
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Americans to that pilot happened to be a Marine platoon or a special forces ODA in 18,
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they were retashed. Never mind, setting an ambush over here. You got to go get this pilot,
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major Lieutenant Colonel, whatever, O'Anneimer. I'm going to put 30 of my guys at risk for one
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fricking Colonel. Maybe. And then there are all the, so, so there was a lot of risk and friction with
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regards to that. So the Air Force stood up its own recovery efforts because it got to the point
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that, hey, look, if you're not going to go rescue our pilots, guess what? Next time you call for
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close air support, good luck. So you're going to have to do your own close air support and it made no
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sense. So, so the para rescue community stood up within the Air Force and those folks are
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full on, flat out heroes every time they go in because they are deep behind enemy lines,
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just like special forces guys, just like Navy SEALs. And they are specialists at plucking people
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out of twisted wreckage, right? That's a special skill set that you have to do. So fast forward to
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Harry Truman. If you, if we shoot down another one of these things and I am here to postulate,
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again, this is a belief not, not knowledge that we were playing with radar at White Sands and
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Wright Patterson in a variety of these things and we were cranking that power up, not with the
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intent to shoot anything down because we can't shoot down our aircraft with that. We don't have
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electronics that are vulnerable to that. But as we're cranking up that power to extend the range,
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here's this vehicle, advanced vehicle with electromagnetic navigation, not propulsion, but
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interferes with the propulsion. Next thing you know, it flies into the side of a mountain.
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So, if we, if we use PJs, para rescue folks to rescue our own astronauts, pluck them out of the
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water after Apollo 11, 12, 13, you know, who are you going to send to to grab the wreckage? It makes
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all the sense in the world. So you believe, Jack Baba is telling me that. Absolutely.
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There has been a cover up lasting 80 years. Absolutely. We've recovered craft. Absolutely.
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Alien bodies. Yes. And we have reverse engineered that to the point that now we can shoot down,
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well not by mistake using, you know, just cranking up the power on our high powered
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migraines. One thing that strikes me about the difference between the way you talk about these
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beings and the way the other people I've interviewed for this story talk, you're the first person
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to suggest possible malevolence. Well, so the title of my book is the
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abduction amnesty knot, little K big NOT. And I use knot because knots can be complicated,
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right? You ever tried to untie, you know, some sort, so especially as now a reluctant sailor.
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So, but the subtitle is the case for forgiveness in the disclosure age. And so there's two entities
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to forgive here. One are the abductors because they do bring us back. I mean, I was brought back
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to my bedroom. I was brought back to my, my bike put back on my bike or put back next to it and I
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got back up in garlic. Many of us have our memories tampered with in much the same way that we
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pharmacologically do the same thing. Talk to any anesthesiologist. We can pharmacologically
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remove, prospectively remove memory with an injection plus or minus 30 seconds. So I've had,
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I'm happened to have 21 different surgeries to repair my empty, dumpedy body. A lot of it with
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my own just lack of skill. And I can tell you several cases where I know that that occurred.
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So if we can do that right now, it makes all the sense in the world with directed energy fine-tuned
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to the hippocampal region and all of the memory consolidation networks and along brains.
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It makes sense that they can do it. And so one sign of benevolence is to remove the memory of
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the trauma. Look, I told, I told you this, I abducted my lovable black laboratory treaver every three
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months to go to the vet. He did not want to go to the vet. He had the equivalent of the bruises on
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his arm. He, I don't know if he had bruises under his coat of his harness, but I had to drag him in
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there for good reasons. What you're suggesting begs the question,
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there will likely be secrets that lie behind what's happened inside the legacy retrieval program.
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Sure. That many people will find confronting. Sure. But is any of that sufficient reason not to reveal
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it? Well, so let me ask you this in an analogy. There's good secrets, bad secrets, in my mind.
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I am not going to tell my grandkids the code to my gunsafe.
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We should not be advertising a cookbook of how to take plutonium and create a nuclear weapon.
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So clearly those things we need to keep secret. However, the existence of extraterrestrial life,
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and it's not just extraterrestrial. If you can travel faster than light and it takes to get here,
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you can bend time and you can cross dimensions. Those three are linked. We know this. In fact,
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this page, there's several pages in Lewis book where he and Al put off
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a diagram, a bubble that dictates that you can manipulate time. So what I have issue with right now
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with the common verbage right now is the word threat. Just because a object or craft is in our
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airspace, that does not make it a threat. It is clear when you read that part that they
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that time, they can slow that down and so it is child's play to avoid collisions. So there is no
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threat of collision. I love these folks. I love the pilots that report these things, but I
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vehemently push back against the notion that there is any threat of a collision. It's the equivalent
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of me being in a 50 knot, Mark 6 Navy patrol craft that can do 40 knots, claiming that I'm a threat
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with my sailboat that flat out maybe can do eight knots. There is no threat of that collision.
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So this notion of just being in our airspace as a threat is ridiculous and it's a real problem for
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us as a galactic species. John, if you have been abducted, at Easter is a nonhuman intelligence.
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It's not inconceivable that one day you might actually get the opportunity to meet your abductors.
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I already did. I already did. A tall, seven-ish foot,
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praying mantis looking, being, was upset with me and was
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was this human? This is during what of your abduction it is. This is right around the same time as
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this mountain bike incident. It was the environment that I thought it was was in my bedroom
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on the third floor of a split-level house and it came through sliding screen door. There was a
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deck out there. Three stories up, no stairs down and just walked right through the door of standing
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over me. Again, I was terrified, frozen, paralyzed to the bed. He, I got a male presence
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by, by, from this being and he's just looking at me very intently and explained to me, look,
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this body that you got, it is just a soul housing group. It's a brain housing group.
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It is just a machine that your soul occupies for this lifetime. And so yeah, we're going to mess with
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we're going to get up under the hood and we're going to adjust the carburetor. I had just
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dated myself there. We may swap a couple of parts out but we can't steal you. We can't steal your
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soul. We can't steal your consciousness. So quit screaming and writhing around and let us do our
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fricking job. And it's like the equivalent of a surgeon telling the patient, stop squiggling
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just like the veterinarian to my my laboratory treaver. Hold them down for crying out loud. Just,
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I got to be able to check this tendon. And so I got that that very condescending and vigorous
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instruction. But here's the thing. As proof, he, there was this image that he put in and was
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terrifying. His mandibles that were kind of behind like a casing or a shell opened up and he
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starts grabbing chunks of my cheek and he's ripping it and and there's blood spattering on the
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wall. And I'm feeling the tug and I'm feeling this this flesh, you know, and the whole time he
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is conveying to me, see, we can't get your soul. We could do a lot of damage to your body if we
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want to. We don't. We're trying to help you. But this is how bad it could get. So stop squiggling
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around and let us get this done. Was that physical damage to your cheek real? No, I felt the tugging
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and I had the the visual again, a false fuzzy memory. What do you think of the people that have
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concealed this secret? I think the vast majority of them are heroes because they were doing it
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for the right reasons. The reason why people kept the Manhattan Project secret was not because
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you're going to threaten them with jail. That doesn't work. Out of 100 people, you threaten everybody
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with jail, there's going to be a 10 to 20 percent that are just they're going to they're going to do
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it anyway. If you can explain to them that it's in the best interest for society, they'll keep
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it a secret. I think that's what's happened here that a large number of the folks in this are
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out in the wind. But once they understand and they're shown direct evidence of these crashes and
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the deceased non-human intelligent bodies, some of which are biological robots, some of it are
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sentient beings. The grasshopper guy for me sentient being without a doubt. The little gray
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guys biological robots. So that is such a significant threat that they feel that society is not ready.
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As a cognitive psychologist, one who's being trained as a cognitive psychologist, final question.
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The implication of this is that human beings have capacities that we don't yet understand to
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communicate with an intelligence telepathically, psychically, because the connection with this technology
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is done psionically. Very little doubt of that in my mind as well. So my technical training is in
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EEG brainwave monitoring. And I use that in a naturalistic sense. So I have big issues with,
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and I know Gary's going to be hearing the whole sort of, we'll have a lively discussion about this.
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My claim is that your brain, when we put you in a laboratory, that brain does not
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act the same way as when you're in a non-laboratory setting. So my focus is on what I call naturalistic
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measurement. Naturalistic, neurophysiological measurement of you. So I use wireless EEG underneath a
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ball cap or underneath a helmet so that it's so comfortable, you forget you're wearing it.
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The first time I wore it was climbing Mount Shaston in 2009. Another story at some other time. So
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that there is no question in my mind that we right now, and you can look at
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many, many, there's a vast literature about this, that we now know more about the human brain
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by gobs than even 10 years ago. It's an exponential acceleration of our knowledge. So the use of that
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to guide advanced craft make all the sense in the world.
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The implications of it all though are to come back to the point at the beginning of all of this
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consciousness may not be local. We might in fact be part of a bigger, wider consciousness.
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And what we're plugging into with our minds is something that's more what we really are as human beings.
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Yeah, I agree. And there's a very big danger here with our reverse engineered ability to
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shoot these things down. On a galactic basis, I'm going to use the honeybee analogy.
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Right? So on this planet with these beings that are beneath us, honeybees, we tolerate them.
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We harness them. They do good things. We use them to pollinate our crops. And so there's a
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symbiotic relationship with these. Enter killer bees or Africanized bees to feed like. Now look
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at the honeybees. You know, if you, if you mess with their, with their nest, their planet,
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they're going to come at you with stingers, which I would draw the equivalent is our nuclear weapons.
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And that's not going to do anybody any good. But you'll stay away and you'll tell your kids,
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hey, don't go over by that tree. Just leave them alone. The Africanized bees, the killer bees,
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that's not worth it anymore. That they are so aggressive and they are now lethal.
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And that's what I worry about that we have gone from this to this.
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Because we're using offensive weapons against them, you may.
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Yeah. And we're not, we're not discriminating friend versus foe. How do we, how do we know who's
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the bad guys up there? Who's, if you got a flying saucer or a little egg or whatever it is,
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coming into our atmosphere, how do you know they're going to kidnap a kid out of the bedroom or
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they're just going to welcome you aboard like the friendly space brothers and sisters that
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our room or two have occurred. So we don't know that yet. The key to that,
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IFF, the identify friend of foe is what you just said, the consciousness, right? Because we do,
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we humans do have that spider sense. And so maybe there are some of us who are sensitive enough
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to maybe do IFF right now and to aid in that process.
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