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Dugway Proving Ground
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Officially designated as the Dugway Proving Ground, this military facility covers an astounding
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1,250 square miles at the Great Salt Lake Desert.
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Dugway's official mission is to test top secret weapons and aerospace systems.
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UFO researchers believe the true purpose of Area 52 is even more sinister.
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When you imagine UFO legacy program operations focused on the retrieval and exploitation
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of technologies of unknown origin, what kind of facilities come to mind?
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Is it Area 51 and it's alleged legendary auxiliary site S4?
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Maybe you think of the Naval Surface Warfare Center crane and it's possible off-world
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technologies division?
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Or perhaps you reference China Lake Weapons Center, Edwards Air Force Base, Wright Patterson
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Air Force Base or any number of US Department of Defense installations that are steeped in
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Maybe, just maybe, who in imagining UFO legacy program locations, you picture Dugway Proving
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Any enormous 1300 square mile US Army installation nestled between three mountain ranges in remote
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Utah that specializes in the testing of biological and chemical weapons.
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Having referred to as Area 52, Dugway Proving Ground rose to prominence in the late 90s
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as the successor to Area 51's UFO programs due to heavy public exposure on the once denied
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Ever since, the Utah site and accompanying two premier MRTFBs have been the focus for
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deep-sixth clandestine UAP operations.
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But this spotlight doesn't solely focus on the enormous facility sprawling across the
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Dugway has additionally been accused as the location of a dumb, a deep underground military
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Today we shed light on Dugway and discussion of its technologies of unknown origin, exploitation
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programs and subterranean presence.
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Through analysis of the facilities in Treging Army and Air Force MRTFBs, study of defense
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contractors present on site, and careful evaluation of the witness testimony of one MS, who
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I have covered on this channel before, who stumbled upon a craft of likely non-human
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origin at the infamous Dugway Range.
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Hey guys, it's UAPGurb, and I am thrilled for you to join me as we venture into the world
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of legacy UFO programs to analyze Dugway Proving Ground.
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How deep does the rabbit hole go between the United States' premier biological and chemical
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weapons testing facility and non-human technology?
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But individuals, military units, and corporations possibly engage with Dugway and UFO reverse
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engineering and material exploitation programs.
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And does Dugway operate such UFO programs above and below the Earth's surface?
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Join me today as we find out.
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Dugway Proving Ground is located 85 miles southwest of Salt Lake City in Tuwila County, Utah.
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The site encompasses over 1,250 square miles, and it is larger than the US state of Rhode
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The site itself is ideal for seclusion and privacy, free from urban encroachment, light
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pollution, and excess acoustic and electronic noise.
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Dugway is surrounded by mountains, salt flats, and desert terrain.
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These geological features combined with a defense retainer that will apprehend approaching
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civilians with armed personnel and black-op helicopters.
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Make the Utah Proving Ground perfect for clandestine and classified military test and evaluation.
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Dugway was founded in 1942 with the mission to test US and allied chemical and biological
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defense systems and perform nuclear, biological, and chemical survivability testing and training
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of defense material using chemical and biological agents and stimulants.
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The Utah Proving Ground uses its state-of-the-art laboratories and chambers to conduct testing
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and training under environmentally controlled conditions.
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Dugway's inception arose from the 1941 Pearl Harbor attacks which quickly sought the
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United States military-increased military capabilities in numerous areas including
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chemical and biological warfare.
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The infamous site has participated in the never-ending global war on terrorism, employing
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special forces mission rehearsals, classified testing, and biochem urgent need equipment
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Dugway has a laundry list of significant accomplishments including unmanned aerial systems
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test support, but we will skip over exploring this entire list of accomplishments.
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According to a 2021 US Army Dugway Proving Ground Mission and Capabilities overview public
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report, Dugway is a massive contributor to Utah's economy, employing a total of
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2120 employees and residents.
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784 of which are primarily Army and Air Force contractors, 622 of which consist of primary
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mission and installation contracting command, think on-site security personnel, and 486 of
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these military or defense agencies civilians.
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Dugway or DPG as we'll refer to it throughout this project partners with myriad US military,
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government, and intelligence agencies including many that harbor our interests throughout
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US Army Airborne Navy Socom aka Special Operations Command, the 388th Range Quadrant out of
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Hill Air Force Base, Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, Interior, NASA, and three
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Out of these three universities I would like to draw specific mention to Utah State University,
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USU employs a university affiliated research center, UArc, for the Missile Defense Agency,
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known as the Space Dynamics Laboratory.
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In numerous projects I've spoken on UArc's and their similar counterparts federally
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funded research and development centers, FFRDCs.
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FFRDCs in UArc's are semi-private, DOD-driven research and development institutions I have
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spoken ad nauseam, are key contributors to UAP legacy programs.
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While not the topic of today, UArc and FFRDCs likely exist as a sort of project manager,
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serving as subject matter experts and research and development leaders for joint corporate
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and US government UAP programs.
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In fact, I believe these two types of institutions to be exponentially more knowledgeable on and
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crucial to UFO exploitation programs than most defense contractors through their sole
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Another topic for another day, however, FFRDC will come up again throughout this presentation.
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For this investigation, we will primarily be focusing on two locations on Dugway, known
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as MRTFBs, major range test and facility bases.
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MRTFBs are known as the quote, core set of DOD test and evaluation infrastructure and
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associated workforce that must be preserved as a national asset to provide it T&E capabilities
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to support the DOD acquisition system.
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The quote-unquote critical core of test bases comprise over 10 million acres of land in the
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United States, employ over 25,000 people annually, and receive over $4 billion in acknowledged
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There exists a total of 23 acknowledged MRTFBs, eight army including Yuma Test Center Arizona
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and White Sands Missile Range.
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These Navy installations including Naval Air Warfare Center PAX River and China Lake Naval
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And seven Air Force bases including Edwards 412 Test Wing, Nevada Test and Training
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Range and the 30th Space Wing at Vandenberg and two Defense Agency bases.
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Many here will associate all listed locations with mentions of UFO legacy programs.
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I myself have extensively published on Witness Ed, who spoke of a joint UFO reverse engineering
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operation between the Nevada Test and Training Range and Edwards 412 Test Wing in California.
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I strongly recommend viewing this project if you have not already.
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Dugway Proving Ground possesses one such MRTFB, the US Army's West Desert Test Center,
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and also shares the South Range of the Air Force's MRTFB, Utah Test and Training Range
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with nearby Hill Air Force Base.
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Take close attention to these two major bases, as when we analyze the testimony of MS, we
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will be exploring a thesis.
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Of a joint Army and Air Force legacy program comprised of the WDTC West Desert Test Center
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and the UTTR Utah Test and Training Range that extend deep below the Earth's surface.
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And while on the subject of MRTFBs, we will dive into much more detail later on including
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discussing the Avery Technical Center and shared Michael Army Airfield, which I believe
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is the operational above ground testing location of this joint UFO project.
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But before we venture into Dugway's history with UFO, let's touch on one more thing while
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the West Desert Test Center is fresh in your mind.
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Operations at WDTC are spearheaded by Army Test and Evaluation Command.
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As we begin to implicate Dugway and thus ATEC as engaging in UFO legacy programs, I find
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the Army Test and Evaluation Organization structure well worth referencing.
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Analyzing the reporting structure of ATEC, far up the food chain, we can observe the
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Secretary of the Army as well as the Chief of Staff and Vice Chief of Staff of the Army,
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answering directly to the US Secretary of Defense.
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Numerous subsets pertain to these four positions including Director of Operational Test and
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But what is interesting here is oversight and TNE policy as well as USA Tech Command is
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independent from conventional Army Research and Development Test and Evaluation structure.
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This independence is mandated by the Office of Management and Budget as well as the Office
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of the Secretary of Defense.
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This separation exists apparently to ensure warfighter safety through unbiased evaluation
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as well as credibility with decision makers.
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But I can't help but to think here, such a structure could quickly lead to a lack of
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oversight on ATEC programs and thus a lack of oversight on West Desert Test Center programs
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at Dugway Proving Ground.
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Let us pause and reflect on historical mentions of Dugway and analyze how and why this site
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has often been referred to as Area 52.
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Having as the United States premiered biological and chemical weapons facility, it is no
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surprise the secrets of Dugway and its decades of classified operations are held close to
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the chest of US military and intelligence.
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I would like to briefly discuss a fascinating alleged 1953 UFO crash retrieval case that
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occurred less than one month after and solely 200 miles north of the infamous 1953 Kingman
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The Garrison Utah UFO crash retrieval was investigated at length by UFO researcher Steve
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Jones and relayed as a moderate confidence case in Ryan S. Woods masterpiece Magic Eyes
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Steve Jones was first introduced to the case by a group called the Phoenix Project in
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A group member Al discussed the case with 10 to 15 large aerial photos dated June of 1953.
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These images apparently depicted a large valley with a triangular shaped area on the ground.
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A remote station resides alongside the feature called the Desert Range Experimental Station
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or Dres, which is located on the southwest of Dugway's West Desert Test Center extending
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from Tuwila to Millard County.
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Dres is managed by the US Forest Service, an arm of the Department of Agriculture.
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The Phoenix Project group presented to Jones a Dres log book dated 1979 to 1980 that
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featured peculiar entries such as Yusaf at Army Personnel from Fort Carson, Colorado.
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Yusaf Command Center Personnel and Representatives from a Defense Contractor.
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Phoenix Project believed the Dres to be a front for a secret research facility that studied
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a crashed UFO that was buried, resulting in the surrounding geology.
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According to his many visits to the site, Steve Jones was indeed able to track down witnesses
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who claimed to see such a crashed object.
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Local resident Bart Wright claimed as a child living eight miles outside of Garrison, he saw
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a strange blue light streak across the sky and crash near the side of the valley containing
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According to Wright, the impact caused the ground to shake in sky to light up.
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Steve Jones hired a geologist in 1999 named Lamont Sorenson to conduct magnetometer and
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seismic tests on the triangular formation where the craft allegedly crashed.
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The geologists found no evidence of underground anomalies but did claim he did not think
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the formation was made by nature.
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He thought that some kind of artificial digging process did in fact take place.
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Whenever a buried UFO is mentioned, this leads to an interesting case but ultimately the
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Garrison Utah crash is a dead end.
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I would also like to reference the story of the flux liner Alien Reproduction Vehicle
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that many viewers of this channel will be quite familiar with.
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During his decades of investigating into the copy vehicles observed by primary witness
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Brad Sorenson at the 1988 Norton Air Force Base Air Show, the late Mark McCandlish would
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encounter multiple witness who had encountered and seen craft similar to the instantly identifiable
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Of note were two photographs McCandlish obtained possession of from Yusaf Captain Harvey
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In his photographs, this disc in 1967 while flying a C-47 at 12,000 feet over Provo,
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Utah, the object bears striking resemblance to the flux liner and possibly details an intriguing
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evolution in imaging technology from 1967 to Brad's observation in 1988.
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Brad and McCandlish claim the ARV flew via a synthetic vision system, overlapping cameras
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that allowed for a pilot inside the craft to access full 3D view when operating the
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The cameras were housed in protective acrylic bubbles, almost appearing as off the shelf
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Due to cameras being much larger in 1967, if the Yusaf Captain did indeed photograph an
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early model of the flux liner, this would feature a larger synthetic vision system to accommodate
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larger camera technology.
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But I am equally if not more interested in the location of this sighting at a low altitude
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Provo Utah is only 100 miles from Dugway and less than 75 miles from Hill Air Force Base.
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Remember what we discussed earlier?
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Dugway and Hill Air Force Base share runways such as the Dugway Michael Army Airfield and
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operate together in the Utah Test and Training Range Southern area.
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Also recall the numerous mentions of MRTFBs and how two such critical cores reside on
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I would once again like to reference witness Ed and the Joint Reverse Engineering Program
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between the Edwards 412th Test Wing and the Nevada Test and Training Range.
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Both the 412th and NTTR are Air Force MRTFBs just as the UTTR is.
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The testimony of Ed explores two MRTFBs working in conjunction to test reverse engineered
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USAF Master Sergeant Edgar Fouchet stated that TR3B reverse engineered triangle saw operations
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at Area 51 which is part of the NTTR and pilots inside the triangle were pulled from
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Edwards Air Force Test Pilot School, part of the 412th.
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The flux liner alien reproduction vehicles were allegedly shown at Norton Air Force Base
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in 1988 which is with an extreme proximity to the fabled USAF Plant 42 and Edwards Air
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Space. If Harvey Williams did indeed image early iterations of the flux liner, this would
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imply a UFO reverse engineering and ARV testing program between two MRTFBs.
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Utah Test and Training Range in Edwards 412th Test Wing.
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This is incredibly similar to the claims of Ed and Fouchet.
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Further in this exploration we will investigate a possible UFO legacy program operating across
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both Army and Air Force MRTFBs at Dougway but we will save this for later.
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In June of 1997, Popular Mechanics Magazine published a stunning monthly issue.
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The titular article titled The New Area 51 discussed the Air Force abandoning its once
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most secretive site for top secret testing and moved to a new, more private location.
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Let's of course dive into this intriguing article to discover the quote-unquote new
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Area 51 and its secret air base operations.
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Right off the jump, the images in this piece are fascinating.
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We see a sticky note that says, Call Admiral Inman at Science Applications International.
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Now I know this isn't the subject of the video but for an article that mocks the idea
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of UFO reverse engineering programs by claiming those who believe the X-Files and existence
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of a dress collection by former FBI director Edgar Hoover.
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For the type of people to believe in UFO crash retrievals, why is Bobbi Ray Inman mentioned?
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Viewers of this channel may recall recent mention of Inman in the Northrop Grumman project.
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Admiral Bobbi Ray Inman, former NSA director, CIA Deputy Director and Science Applications
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International Corporation SAIC Board Member.
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Once discussed, UFO recovered vehicles to NASA mission specialist Bob Eschler.
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Inman also referred Eschler to retired rear admiral and BDM board member Sumner Shapiro,
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who informed Eschler, UAP retrievals would see teams take apart craft, pack them up, and
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ship them around the country to different laboratories.
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Inman is an integral figure in the discussion of UFO crash retrievals in the 1980s.
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And I do not need to go into SAIC and their likely involvement in an off-world technologies
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division at NSWC Crane.
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This tiny sticky note in a rather deprecating article is incredibly interesting.
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The popular mechanics piece states due to overexposure as America's worst kept secret
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This is of course objectively false, however.
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Later individuals we will discuss in this project reference a percentage of up to 40%
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of Area 51's clandestine operations moving to Dugway.
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One primary reason for the move out of Area 51 according to the popular mechanics author
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Jim Wilson was the need for a different type of proving ground for ultra-high performance
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After some impressive sleuthene including referencing Air Force Space Command General
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Howell, Estes and NASA Administrator Daniel Goldens, 1997 agreement to share quote-unquote
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As well as a 1996 NASA announcement stating Michael Army Airfield would share as a runway
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for several X-33 missions popular mechanics narrowed in on Utah.
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And a quick side note the X-33 aircraft capable of Mach 15 was a Lockheed Martin Skunkworks
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production formed out of the Palmdale facility.
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Both Michael Army Airfield which shits nestled on Dugway's West Desert Test Center within
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the Avery Technical Center and don't worry much more on this later.
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As well as Green River Utah launch complex part of White Sands missile range where ideal
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installations for the new Area 51.
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Michael Army Airfield possessed an equally if not more deterrent surrounding area than
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Not only is the airfield situated on 1300 square miles of Dugway ranges but it is also
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bordered by numerous mountain ranges and salt flats.
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The airfield did however lack adequate landing runways according to popular mechanics which
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is why Utah launch complex situated only 200 miles away served as the ideal dance partner
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for the Michael Army Airfield.
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The magazine attempted flyovers of the airfield to snap images of the surrounding area but
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were warned of being shot down.
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Additionally the magazine attempted to purchase satellite imagery of the Utah launch complex
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but was denied due to security reasons.
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The claims of a new Area 51 are not isolated to mainstream publishers like popular mechanics.
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Let's revisit the testimony of Edgar Fusche in the TR3B.
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Like I said in the Northrop project many are critical of Fusche due to his claims of
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a reversed engineer triangular alien reproduction vehicle with little in the way of physical proof.
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However his disclosures have led to incredibly actionable intelligence and worthwhile investigation.
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In his 1998 IUFOC International UFO Congress presentation Fusche presented comprehensive
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disclosures of TR3B Area 51 NSA's Men in Black Treat, EG&G and Project Red Light
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as well as the DARS Defense Advanced Research Center which I have talked about numerous times
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In the presentation Fusche made mention to a source informing him beginning in 1992 the
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Air Force conducted a contingency plan due to massive public intention on Area 51.
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This would see the majority of exotic Air Force platforms relocated to Utah, Colorado,
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Alaska, Greenland, Diego Garcia and South of Area 51 to S4.
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And there is evidence to show a heavy focus on Area 51 and UFO programs in the early 1990s
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which may in fact have seen projects moved out of Area 51 Grume Lake.
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In 1990 James Defense writer James Goodall revealed a thesis of at least eight black programs
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flying out of Area 51 Grume Lake including a silent triangle utilizing unconventional technologies.
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An unnamed source Goodall knew for 12 year stationed at Grume Lake later explained that
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UAP positively existed at the base while another source stated quote,
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We have things out there that are literally out of this world better than Star Trek or
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anything you can see in the movies.
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Times of Area 51 moving clandestine operations to Dugway were additionally made by one A.H.
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A.H claimed to be a former Boeing employee who leveraged significant knowledge on UFO
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legacy programs from friends at the NSA CIA NASA JPL ONI NRO Area 51 the Air Force North
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of Crum and Boeing and others.
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A.H appeared as a primary witness on Stephen Greer's 2001 excellent disclosure briefing
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document and had his testimony taped in the year 2000.
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Now it's worth noting as I discussed in the Northern Project A.H. is likely a primary
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source of information for Dr. Stephen Greer similar to UFO researcher William Hamilton.
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As A.H. has been in contact with Greer for decades and Greer repeats much of what A.H. has
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Greer talks often of Dugway as a primary UFO legacy program site discussing a Utah underground
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complex south of Salt Lake City accessible only by air in the 2001 disclosure briefing
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document and again in a 2016 presentation.
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In this 26 presentation, Greer discussed black program locations and code names which
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relate to the testimony of Ed.
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In this discussion, Greer tags Dugway as quote the most critical one end quote when discussing
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black program facilities.
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And in Utah, one of the most critical and this is the most critical one that's new is the
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Dugway Proving Ground's outside of Provo.
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This is classified air space above and no access by ground above ground.
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You don't see much and everything is underground.
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Richard Foesch, this Naval Research Labs official was out there with some generation five
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or six or whatever night scopes doing an operation and he looked out and he saw these objects
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coming out from underground that then zipped over and that were these massive disc and
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triangular shape and gravity objects that were ours and some were just sitting out there
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And that's outside of Provo out in the desert.
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It is not inconceivable many of Greer's early ideas on Dugway were disclosed to him by
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After all, in 2008, did in fact reference an underground Utah installation Southwest
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of Salt Lake City accessible only by air that tests and maintains extraterrestrial technology.
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We're incorporating this technology from this craft that the area 51 and I also found
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out that they are moving a lot of the personnel and some of the equipment and some of the
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extraterrestrial technology equipment and the craft to base up in Utah.
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They're right and they move very 50 most stuff from area 51, at least 35% to 40% of
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However, we can find some extremely interesting pre-2000s discussion of Dugway by Greer.
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Beyond screen now, a March 1998 email exchange with Greer and UFO investigators Steve Jones.
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Yes, the same investigator we discussed above with the alleged 1953 garrison Utah UFO crash.
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In these initial exchanges, Jones details his field notes while near the desert range
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experimental station studying the retrieval case.
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Jones mentioned he had learned that work from area 51 Groom Lake had indeed been moved
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to Dugway in an area called Dog, West of the main gate.
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Jones himself had collected data since the 1980s untarped trucks left in the middle of
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These truckloads were left between Hill Air Force Base north of Salt Lake and Wendover
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Utah bordering Nevada.
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This between area is of course Dugway and the Utah test and training range.
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Recall also that Dugway and Hill Air Force Base share airstrips in the UTTR.
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Hill itself and its 388th range squadron operate on the Dugway Michael Army airfield.
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What is more intriguing to me is an even earlier 1996 exchange of emails between Greer and
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one AJ Kratock with the subject line quote,
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Area 51 Insiders say area southwest of Tuwila, Utah, deserve a look.
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AJ, AKA Tony Kratock once did work with Greer, serving as Webmaster for C-SETI.org.
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Kratock is also the founder and CEO of Kratock, an oil and gas service provider in Libya.
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Why did a CEO with 40 years experience in the international petroleum industry engage in
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UFO research with Greer in the 90s?
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Anyways in this email address to Greer, Kratock links a discussion with an insider source.
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The sender or insider had their credentials withheld but claimed to work on several sites
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checking badges and running ground surveillance equipment, tremorsensors, ground surveillance
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The source additionally discussed EMP weaponry that could fry vehicle computers or electronics.
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We live in a world where EMP devices are often discussed as legacy program weapons to
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shoot down non-human craft so this inclusion is interesting.
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This source claims Kratock and others implying Greer were looking in two obvious directions
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Although Area 51 did indeed have legacy programs, the source advised Kratock to look in the state
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of Utah to the southwest of Tuwila County and west of Salt Lake City.
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In this described area existed nine exclusion zones, four of which featured underground locations
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and this area of course is dugway proving ground.
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The Kratock Greer connection here is fascinating and well worth exploring more.
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However remember this discussion of dugway, Area 51 and mysterious programs took place
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before the 1997 popular mechanics article on the new Area 51, Fushay's Disclosures
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and AH's film testimony.
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Very pertinent this insider source claimed to have knowledge of dugway proving ground
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and UFO legacy programs before any public exposure.
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In June of 2023 the contentious Stephen Greer held his first whistleblower symposium
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at the National Press Club since his 2001 panel.
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That featured the legendary Mark McCandalish amongst other firsthand witnesses.
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Viewers may remember this panel as featuring the first public disclosures of Michael Herrera
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and we now know UFO whistleblower Jake Barber was in attendance.
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One witness featured was not present at the event and had his story told by Greer.
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This was a witness known by the pseudonym MS.
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So there's another gentleman, I'm going to run through these very quickly.
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We'd be here for 30 hours if I didn't.
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I'm just giving you a tip of the iceberg, right?
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This is a guy who is a dugway proving ground for a key facility MS we call him.
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He was a work for sea marking corporation contractor and he was in a facility that had an
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extraterrestrial vehicle that had it was being studied by scientists.
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He knows the chief scientist involved.
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He has named that individual to us and they can all be subpoenaed now.
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So this object was there in 2009.
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He didn't know the date of acquisition but he thought it was fairly recent.
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He also was read into and had the chief scientist show him the location which we now have of a
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dumb deep underground military base that is in the dugway sector, so-called Avery Sector
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AV-ERY and it has huge capacity for parking.
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You go in and there's a vast underground complex in that location.
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That location has been handed off to investigators with the US government.
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This gives an illustration of the size of this you could put easily on the platform that
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goes down the Air Force one.
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It's a very large elevator goes down underground.
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Upon release of the DPI archive I investigated all files relating to this fascinating case.
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Files on MS can be found under witness ID 10655.
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Due to lapses in site security and data presented in the documents I was able to track down witness
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MS and hear his incredible encounter at dugway first hand.
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Viewers of my channel may recall an interview with MS in UFO Witnesses Redacted List.
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This project was deleted to respect the privacy of other witnesses covered in the project,
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I would now like to revisit the testimony of MS with exponentially greater focus on his
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The purpose of this investigation will be to identify specific buildings and military units
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operating UFO legacy programs at dugway proving ground as well as explore any and all evidence
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to the enormous facility likely beneath the ground of the Utah site.
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And before we get started I would like to add, MS was approached by elements of the Senate
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Select Committee on Intelligence to testify regarding his claims and I can confirm this
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as he shared with me the screenshots of their outreach.
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MS turned down the requests as he is a current railroad employee and was unable to break
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away from work for a week plus even when SSCI offered to pay for his travel.
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I have a tremendous amount of respect for MS and find great value in researching his testimony.
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Witness MS served in the US Navy and was even stationed in the auxiliary division of the
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USS Teddy Roosevelt from 1990 to 2000.
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Following his service MS entered into government contracting work.
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In 2009 to 2013 he worked as a maintenance painter and sign technician for the Sea Martin
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Sea Martin is a DOD contractor whose mission is to quote provide a fine tuned approach
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to managing people, time and resources to provide quality services while creating value
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Sea Martin operates as a prime subcontractor with DOD in myriad capacities, specializing
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in facility operations and maintenance, logistics, construction, range operation and maintenance,
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And Sea Martin does indeed have a location on Dugway located near the Administration
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Sea Martin's range and facility operations and maintenance contracting pertains greatly
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to areas of interest for this investigation, specifically for Avery Technical Center which
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resides on Michael Army Airfield shared with Hill Air Force Base in the 388th Range Squadron
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as well as locations a stone throw away called Ditto Technical Center.
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No contains the heart of the West Desert Test Center which alongside ATEC test chemicals
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and biological weapons across the Utah Range.
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In fact the Army Test and Evaluation Command major range and facility base West Desert
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Test Center is majorly funded by the Joint Services Chemical and Biological Defense Program
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A lot of acronyms I know but remember the term CBDP as we will discuss it again both in relation
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to a specific contractor of interest at Dugway and for MS's story.
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Now MS's experience begins in 2009, four months into his work for Sea Martin at Dugway.
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MS held a level 5 proximity badge which allowed him access to myriad facilities across Dugway
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to perform DOD contractor work.
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And crucial to note MS did not have a security clearance even though he occasionally states
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level 5 clearance instead of badge.
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MS would often ride into Dugway Proving Ground from Kaysville, Utah in a van where all other
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travelers held top secret clearance.
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One normal day on the job MS was tasked with electrical meter reading to allow the US
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government to build various contractors working on site.
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In 2009 is when it happened I was about four months into working there.
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There was a kid that was underneath me as my apprentice because I was one of the maintenance
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We took care of every facility out there.
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And so he called in sick one day.
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I had to go read meaners for him because that's what they do.
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So the government is in control of about 48% of that and then 52% of it is private contractor
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and that's why they don't have to disclose it.
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So I had to go out read his meter of that day to get everything turned in to the government
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and I can't remember how many facilities I were.
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There's probably a kid 15 but those 15 took me to places where I've never really been
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out there and opened my eyes up to a lot of different things.
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This led MS to the Avery technical center where he entered into the quote unquote ghost
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A building nicknamed for having no numbers and no insignia.
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Initially I believed these facilities may be the material test facility or defensive
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test chamber just south of Avery across the road from Ditto technical center.
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After all MS will soon describe the incident location as a clean room of sorts and these
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two facilities are high profile CBDP test areas on site at the West Desert Test Center.
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However these installations are well known and indeed named numbered.
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On the other hand Avery technical center yields very few search results and quite often
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does not appear in numerous US Army and A Tech documents.
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In fact Avery is curiously missing from DPG visitor guides while other areas of interest
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such as Ditto are clearly mentioned.
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Last time I covered MS's testimony I had very little to work off regarding Avery.
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Bar a September 2017 DTTF facility description document an image from Facebook.
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Before we investigate Avery I must clearly state I am not revealing any classified information.
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All locations and installations to be discussed can be referenced in public domain materials.
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This reference July 2012 unclassified report titled Environmental Assessment of the Continued
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Exclusive Use of Department of the Army Land located at US Army Dugway Proving Ground.
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By members of the US Air Force that offers incredible insights and exploration into Avery
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As mentioned numerous times so far Avery borders Michael Army Airfield and both the Airfield
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and 40 acre Avery area are the focus of the 388th Range Squadron out of nearby Hill Air
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Avery partly serves as air testing slash training for the 388th.
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Historically Avery had conducted numerous radiological studies and investigations into the handling
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of radioactive material including utilizing the radiobiological warfare laboratories for
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the Atomic Energy Commission.
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Avery employs an internal rail system for the transportation of radioactive materials.
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This mention of an internal rail system is truly massive as we further on investigate
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Dugway's alleged deep underground military base.
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Aerial views of Avery yield no building descriptions unlike the nearby Ditto area where facilities
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like the diner, contractor Jacobs etc are mentioned.
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However this Environmental Assessment document offers us a gorgeous detailed overview of
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Avery locations, see on screen now.
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Locations of interest include the 1002 Avery Tunnel Entrance, 1012 Photo Operations and
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Maintenance, 1038 General Storage and 1016 Classified Storage.
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Now other buildings outside of this map not marked developed slash unclassified exist.
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However, I am willing to bet this experience took place at Building 1010 Test Operations.
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But enough investigation lets hear from MS as he entered this ghost building.
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I walked into one that they called the ghost building because it just kind of came out
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No numbers on it, no nothing.
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And opened up the door and basically had an M16 stuck in my chest and I had my level
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I think that was the only thing that saved my tell that day.
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And what I call white coats, they are kind of like doctors that I set up inside the building
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kind of like a little cleaner in a area.
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And I am sure I don't know if you have been in car accident or not.
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When you have your life kind of flash before your eyes, everything starts to slow down.
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And you start really taking in a lot of information very quickly.
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So that is what happened to me with the gun and everything else.
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So everything started to fall into place.
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That thing was on its own power.
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I don't know if you have seen the rendering or not.
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But there was no door.
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It just kind of opened on the bottom.
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But everything just kind of just walked in there on its own power.
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No noise, no anything.
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But the white coats walk around and analyze and do all their stuff.
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There are a few gift-armed guards in there at the time.
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Like I said, I don't know if they were getting ready to move or what have you.
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Quickly before we discuss this incredible craft, who were these armed guards that held
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Will numerous US facilities actually contract security personnel instead of enlisted men?
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This is done through sole source contracts.
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A contract method Dr. Eric Davis has stated is used for UAP legacy programs.
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These contracts were given to private security companies post 9-11 to bolster US Army and
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other military installation security.
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I have found a 2006 General Accounting Office report titled quote, Army's Guard program
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requires greater oversight and reassessment of acquisition approach.
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This document discusses all contracted security personnel issued by the Army.
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Dugway Proving Ground utilized Chenega integrated systems.
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In future projects, I will be interested in exploring both Chenega and their subcontractor
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Vance Federal Security Services.
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Wackenhut Services, which Admiral Bobby Ray Inman was formerly a board member of, is
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a private security corporation I highly suspect was involved in UAP legacy program security.
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Wackenhut like Vance Federal Security Systems were used as subcontractors to Army installation
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not primary contractors.
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Now unless contractor security personnel were highly cleared security specialists, I
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highly doubt these private security companies could do more than scan vehicles and check
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badges for access to legacy program sites.
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Therefore while I do reckon security services like Wackenhut and possibly Chenega have
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historically performed installation and access security for UAP legacy program locations.
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I must conclude the armed guards within proximity to the saucer were known as industrial
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security Indusek personnel.
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Now why that conclusion industrial security quote conducts risk management activities
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with respect to the US government's defense industrial base including critical technologies
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and the defense supply chain through oversight of the National Industrial Security Program.
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Issues of facility security clearances foreign ownership control and influence mitigation
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measures information system cyber security oversight and other activities related to protecting
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classified and controlled unclassified national security information and related technology
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Cian screen now an A-Tech security specialist role for Dugway detailing an Indusek position.
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Numerous responsibilities are listed for this role including one such task which is to
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provide backup as the alternate special security officer for sensitive compartmented information
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Looking forward investigating industrial security alongside UAP legacy program installations
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will be paramount to my research.
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Anyways MS observed a saucer roughly 10 feet tall and 20 feet in circumference.
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The craft was hovering 10 to 12 inches off the ground.
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The disc had no seams or fasteners and appeared to be made out of one piece and featured a
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brushed metal appearance.
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On the craft were six lab technicians I believe these to be A-Tech and Batell Memorial
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Institute scientists and more on this later.
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MS believed this craft was in the process of being dismantled due to a bottom section
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of the saucer being removed featuring a conical structure.
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This conical section appeared to be floating and was almost independent of the craft.
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One cannot help but draw parallels to Bob Lazar's drawn extraterrestrial reactor model
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that he claimed served as the propulsion mechanism for the sports model flying saucer.
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Appearing by the craft was a flat screen television type of electronic.
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Displaying a mapping system more on this shortly.
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Yeah there is nothing on it not a same not not anything almost like it was like just
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casted yeah like if you said it 3d printed but yeah it's flawless it's what I can say.
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It's not that you like nowadays there's no way to replicate it for us.
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I don't know if they were going to get ready to move or whatever but they they had it
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broke down a lot of it was broke down that bottom section was opened where you could kind
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of see into that component area that triangle it's like it's floating like it's
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generating a power I don't know like a lot of everything happened very very quickly
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and just trying to take in everything as fast like good.
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That section is basically doing its own thing.
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When I stand in you know like I don't know if you're there with something or if that's
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what I said is it is it in transition to where it's like you guys have it out in this
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building out the middle of nowhere but then you know you have military vehicles around
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you have regular civilian vehicles around but if this thing's on its own power doing
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its own thing what are you guys going to be doing with it you guys going to move it
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underground more stuff going on or if you've taken what you've wanted.
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MS was taken by the guards to the nearby Ditto Technical Center to the Garrison building
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where two men and civilian clothing immediately began interrogating him.
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The men were clad in black suits and MS guessed these individuals to be FBI or CIA.
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Quite possibly these men could also be the infamous alleged NSA men in black treat.
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For six hours MS was harassed and interrogated the entire duration MS maintained he had no
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idea what he saw and he was just doing his job eventually he was let go.
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In the months and years following the incident MS would discuss his encounter with family
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and friends and ask around to find more.
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MS reached out to various individuals affiliated with Dugway including one such person.
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MS stated quote I reached out to him and got him to talk about my situation by accident
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This individual pseudonym GP worked in legacy operations at Dugway and possibly still
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GP was a senior chemist involved in Dugway's UAP legacy programs both above ground and
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in the subterranean facility where he claimed a light rail system connected the Dugway
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dump to numerous others around the country.
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GP commented little about himself he primarily discussed with MS what he went through at
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What we do know about GP according to MS is he is a Diody chemist by degree and was moved
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to DPG after being promoted to work in UAP legacy programs.
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MS lost connection with GP when he left sea martin in 2014 but we are attempting to
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get in contact with him today.
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Often when discussing legacy program operations we discuss research and development engineers,
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physicists, military brass the discussion of a chemist is indeed intriguing.
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However high level Diody chemists involved with technologies of unknown origin would most
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certainly be stationed at Dugway the nation's premier chemical and biological testing facility.
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But exactly did GP do at Dugway?
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This is unknown but speculating possibly his position could have seen him operating
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with chemistry concepts surrounding the craft's propulsion system.
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Analyzing biologics studying metallurgy the list is truly endless but GP did have enough
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knowledge to inform MS of the mapping system he saw near the craft.
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When you have almost have coordinates on there is what I can describe.
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The way that that set up to me is what it looked like a mapping system.
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When I talked to the gentleman that was over top of a lot of that stuff out there he said
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they are basically able to put on that system two points of references or whatever they are
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going to do on reference points and basically generate a wormhole and drop through.
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And so that's where he says that interstellar travel is how they get from point A to point
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In short GP stated the craft was extra terrestrial and operated via gravity displacement but
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wouldn't comment further.
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Now MS received confirmation from both GP and a current railroad co-worker of a massive
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underground facility beneath Dugway.
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The co-worker even claimed to have assisted in digging out the tunneling system beneath
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MS and myself are currently setting up time to meet with this individual as well.
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Deep underground military bases, DUMs, aka subterranean facilities or STFs are a keen
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interest of mine especially in relation to UAP legacy programs.
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DUMs do indeed exist.
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It often planned as underground ICBM facilities, underground command bunkers, corporate facilities
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or COG continuity of government installations.
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Indeed even deep underground tunnel systems have been planned to connect these facilities
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like in studies conducted by TRW.
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Massive machines called tunnel boring machines and nuclear subterrines have historically
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been associated with such intriguing underground work.
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In fact the United States National Research Council has historically published special projects
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on the creation of DUMs.
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Such as this 1981 and 1982 workshop on technology for the design and construction of deep underground
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DUMs are not our focus today besides under Dugway but again I have discussed such underground
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facilities before and plan to tackle the subject fully in the future.
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For now I'll leave you with numerous underground tunnel systems in western states detailed
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by the US Bureau of Reclamation.
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Many tunnel systems listed in this report feature tunnel distances of tens of thousands
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of feet of length, tens of feet of diameter covered by hundreds or thousands of feet of
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Now many such tunnels serve as waterways and aqueducts however it is fascinating to see
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such a volume of massive underground tunnels.
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It is critical to mention the Bureau of Reclamation was one of the key members on the 1981 and
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1982 joint project discussing deep underground defense facilities we mentioned above.
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GP would state this underground facility at an undisclosed depth span to 1300 square miles
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which is the size of Dugway proving ground itself.
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The tunnels connecting Dugway to other underground installations were wide enough to transport
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enormous aircraft such as a 747.
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These rail systems operated off of magnetics popularly referred to as maglev trains.
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It is 1300 square miles underneath and then there is a light rail system as what he
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It goes that light rail system is connected to every base in the nation and can transport
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the president's plane basically anywhere they need to without putting it in the air.
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Maglev trains are a type of rail system levitated by electromagnetics rather than employing
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Maglevs feature numerous benefits to conventional railroad systems including higher speeds,
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superior acceleration and deceleration lower maintenance costs improved gradient handling
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But our much more expensive compared to traditional systems maglevs have even reached top speeds
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of 375 miles per hour.
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Now the implementation of maglev train systems connecting dumps is often seen as conspiracy
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This is an incorrect assumption.
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In 1986 FFRDC, Los Alamos National Labs published a study titled, quote, Sub-Saline,
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a nuclear-powered melt tunneling concept for high-speed lunar subsurface transportation
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The intriguing study discussed the creation of subsurface lunar tunnels connecting manned
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installations that would feature maglev or other high-speed train transportation systems.
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And while discussing specifics of the dump, I must once again state I am not releasing
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any classified information, everything discussed from here on out is all public domain.
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The entrance to the subterranean facility is accessible from a tiny building in the
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middle of the West Desert Test Center near German village Dugway.
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According to GP, the entrance is solely an elevator to take personnel to the installation.
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This entrance does not supply the Dugway dump with materials, food, supplies, logistics,
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Instead the dump is internally supplied from tunnels connecting the base to other subterranean
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When I last discussed MS and UFO witnesses redacted list, I did not cover the supposed entrance
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to the Dugway subterranean facility.
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Since covering MS's story, Stephen Greer has taken it upon himself to leak this supposed
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See on screen now, the critical update, displaying the Dugway dump entrance on the DPI archive.
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As mentioned above, this remote entrance is indeed on Dugway's West Desert Test Center
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and is quite close to the Avery Technical Center and Michael Army Airfield.
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While lying between properties considered as Air Force lease rentals on Dugway Proving
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Analyzing Google Earth Historical imagery, it appears this entrance was constructed sometime
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between 1993 and 2006.
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It could however be much older, as satellite resolution does not allow us to see clearly
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at these older dates.
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According to GP, much of the Dugway dump operations reside under nearby granite peak, which
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sits just west of the alleged entrance in Avery and Ditto areas.
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What is quite interesting to me is the fact that 388th Range Squadron out of Hill and
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Michael Army Airfield runs multiple sites on and just north of the mountain.
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I'd like to focus specifically on the Mini-Mute stations 10 and 2.
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Mini-Mutes are threat emitter systems commonly utilized to train pilots to recognize and
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respond to various enemy radar threats.
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One must wonder if the Granite Peak South Station has entrances to or interactions with
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a supposed facility under the mountain.
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MS's disclosures are truly astonishing and I must preface I am speculating here, but
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from MS's testimony, a strong thesis can be extracted.
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MS stumbled upon a joint army and USF MRTFB UFO Legacy Operation operating between ATEC
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and the 388th Range Squadron with the aid of white coat contractors such as Patel Memorial
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Institute and Jacob Solutions more on them later.
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This program operates above and beneath Dugway Proving Ground.
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The Klandestine program utilizes the Avery Technical Center's internal rail system to
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transport non-human craft and materials onto unmarked secretive Avery buildings such as
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the test operations and classified storage buildings.
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System scientists and the 388th Range Squadron utilizes the southern part of the Utah Test
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and Training Range to test extraterrestrial vehicles or alien reproduction vehicles.
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This would operate similarly to what witness Ed described with the joint UFO reverse
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engineering program between the Edwards 412 Test Wing and Nevada Test and Training
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The program also utilizes top chemistry and biology subject matter experts from ATEC and DPGs
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chemical and biological defense program to either study biologics or engage with any
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relevant aspects of non-human craft.
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The Dugway Dumb communicates and operates alongside other dumb locations across the Continental
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United States, likely hidden within and below major military installations and MRTFBs.
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A truly incredible thesis but one that can be reasonably constructed based upon the testimony
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of MS in study of Dugway Proving Ground.
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Lastly, I just want to briefly touch on some contractor operations at Dugway.
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Remember, MS claimed over half of Dugway's operations related to contracting work.
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In fiscal year 2013, according to the GAO, Dugway's West Desert Test Range saw about
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77% of acknowledged work conducted for the CBDP chemical biological defense program
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Now, what contractor might come to mind that deals in depth with chemical and biological
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Batel Memorial Institute.
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I have covered Batel at length before including their project Stork, which was tasked by
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USG to study UAP parallel but independent to project Blue Book.
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I have also investigated Batel and their curious links to Nickel Titanium Alloys which may
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just have been the shape memory alloy recovered from the 1947 Roswell, New Mexico crash.
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I highly recommend viewing that project.
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Batel runs a host of biochem facilities including the Batel National Bio Defense Institute
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at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
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This location has recently become entwined with UFO lore as a possible location where non-human
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biologics are stored.
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There is additionally now the alleged infamous Exo-Bio-Sphere Organism Molecular Biologist
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Reddit Whistleblower testimony focused on this Batel location.
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But these claims are absent from this investigation as they require much more research.
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To add further intrigue at Fort Detrick, Batel manages the National Bio Defense Analysis
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Encounter Measures Center FFRDC for the Department of Homeland Security.
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Specifically, the DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology.
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I would once again like to draw attention to a primary thesis of this channel that FFRDC
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and UARC often act as project managers.
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Serving as subject matter experts performing R&D work in joint USG and contractor UAP legacy
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And remember how we previously discussed the CBDP programs at Dugway.
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While analyzing this joint multinational and interagency CBDP test and evaluation
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partners chart, we can see Dugway and Batel are both listed as select few program locations.
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In fact, the West Desert Test Center and Fort Detrick's National Interagency Biodefense
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campus at which Batel operates are additionally quite intimate.
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Serving as two or four of CBDP's primary research and development and test and evaluation
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Now, I know that's a lot, but Batel has historically also worked closely with Dugway, including
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operating the Chemical and Biological Defense Information Analysis Center, CBIAC, that
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According to excellent UFO researcher Anthony Bragalia, Batel additionally has a design slash
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build division with capabilities for creating laboratories and other specialized facilities.
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In one article, Bragalia referenced multiple open source documents that discussed Batel's
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facility design and construction management work at Dugway.
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According to these documents, Batel has engineered enclosed testing facilities and sealed structures
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at DPG that according to one technical report, quote, meet stringent containment standards,
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providing a degree of protection that has never been achieved before, end quote.
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Batel's facility design services also include specialized locations such as clean rooms.
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I must reference back to the testimony of MS and the clean room that held the UFO.
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Based of full investigation into Batel's construction work at DPG is warranted.
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DPG and Fort Detrick's connections with each other and Batel are quite interesting, but
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this is where things get downright strange.
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The director of Dugway's West Desert Test Center is one Mr. Ryan W. Harris.
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Harris's quote, responsible for the overall planning, directing, and evaluating all aspects
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of work for the chemical, biological, and other acquisition tests and training programs
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executed by the test center, end quote.
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Harris received a bachelor's in chemical engineering and served in the Army as a chemical officer.
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In the year 2000, Harris would accept a project manager position working with Batel at Dugway.
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This Batel works while Harris overseeing several testing and training programs, and in 2004,
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Harris would accept a project manager position with Dugway, and work his way all the way up
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to the ranks until 2012, where he achieved the position as WTC Test Director, where he
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now evaluates all aspects of the work for the chemical, biological, and other acquisition
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tests and training programs executed by the test center.
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Interesting how a Batel project manager becomes director of an MRTFB, where witnesses have
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claimed a UAP legacy program employing DOD chemists takes place.
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But we don't stop there, meet US Army Chemical Engineering Corps member, Greg Frank.
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Frank served as a chemist for the Chemical Laboratory Division at Dugway Proving Ground
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Quote, he directed and performed chemical studies and developed procedures for chemical
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testing and analysis, utilizing modern analytical instrumentation end quote.
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While serving as test officer, Frank would branch out into numerous vehicle and chemical
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munition programs, developing material test plans and test operational plans.
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When he left service in 1985, Frank joined Batel as a project manager and principal investigator
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where he, quote, managed both the technical and financial aspects of numerous projects
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in the areas of chemical and biological defense.
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As of 2008, Frank operated as executive vice president for Batel Science and Technology
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International and is responsible for over 5,000 scientists, engineers and supporting staff.
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But believe it or not, these are not the only connections we can make with WDTC leadership
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We can also take a keen look at Anders Wyborg, former director of special programs division
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at the West Desert Test Center.
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Now working for the DOE, Wyborg once served at Dugway, ensuring execution of daily operations
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within the test center.
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Before working at Dugway, Wyborg worked at Batel, serving as a test director responsible
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for TNE of chemical and biological defense equipment.
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Batel and Dugway share intimate connections, likely meary and more than we have just scratched
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Other contractors at Dugway are of extreme interest as well and will likely serve as suspects
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of future investigations, such as Jacob Solutions who performs range testing and lab services
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This contractor operates a premium facility at Dugway Ditto and sees strong ties to its
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board of directors and the Carlyle Group.
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However due to the intense focus of Dugway on biochem weapons programs, Batel will remain
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our primary suspect in UAP legacy programs at Dugway Proving Ground.
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Hey guys, it's Gurb and I'd like to thank you all so much for joining me today as we
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took this extended look into Dugway Proving Ground.
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Now, why did we partake in this investigation?
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Well, for one, something I've noticed, I'm sure many other have, is discussion of Dugway
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around UFOs and legacy programs are quite intertwined.
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However, there is barely any other discussion or research or claims or testimony involving
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I think the perfect example of this is the beginning quest TV video featuring Nick Pope,
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talking about Area 51 to Area 52.
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This entire 10-15 minute video on YouTube, of course the link will be in the description,
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discusses Area 51 and Dugway and talks about it being the new Area 51.
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This video even features words from Richard Dolan, however, zero evidence or testimony or
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anything is presented here.
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So after having the testimony of MS, after having some of the words of Stephen Greer,
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age, AJ Kratock and others, I thought it very pertinent to actually dive into Dugway.
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Now I have reason to believe that Dugway is indeed a premier legacy reverse engineering
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material exploitation program.
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So I wanted to sift through all of this information and present an argument, especially as we
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started to look into Dugway structure and how Dugway is comprised of two major range
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test facility bases, a huge piece of this investigation.
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As we know with the testimony of Ed, his claims are a reverse engineering program covered
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two Air Force MRTFBs, the Edwards 412 test wing and the Nevada test and training range.
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Dugway gives us an interesting look because due to the testimony of MS, we can conclude
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of a joint reverse engineering program versus two branches of the military MRTFBs, the Army's
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West Desert Test Center and the Air Forces Utah Test and Training Range.
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This of course then involves Army ATEC and their Joint Chemical Biological Defense Program
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and the 388th Range Squadron out of nearby Hill Air Force Base.
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I tried to do many connections between the 388th Rands range squadron as it's listed
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and the Edwards 412 test wing.
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Unfortunately there is very little to chew on there.
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However, I do think the argument presented here is strong enough and there's enough
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valuable data and listed data here for any policy maker or any individual with influence
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to conduct a comprehensive analysis of MS and others claims.
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Now of course twice in this video around the stiff sub-training facility location, I
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list the disclaimer that I was using only publicly available information.
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Now I do this because when all the way back when discussing NSWC crane and the testimony
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of RA or we now know Randy Anderson, I caught a little bit of a little bit of a fright
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for mentioning crane and the possibility that this could be a catastrophic disclosure and
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could be a breach of national security due to this being an underground location.
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Therefore when discussing the dumb locations, I needed to preface by saying this information
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was all public domain and I thank you Stephen Greer for leaking that on the DPI archive
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because that finally gave me a chance to talk about these locations.
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Seeing as the last time I covered MS, I was privy to these locations but did not think
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it appropriate to list them but Greer took it upon himself to list Granite Peak and the
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alleged dumb location by German village himself.
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So thank you for that and I must state once again as I did in the last project.
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Do not under any circumstances go looking for that location.
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Dugway Proving Ground is protected land and protected airspace.
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These are military assets do not go to the location.
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If that is a location to a deep underground military base which I highly wager it is, do
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I'll just make that very clear.
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Just do not for your own safety.
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So there's other data to discuss surrounding Dugway.
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As we saw with the Dugway history, there's not much linking Dugway to UAP legacy programs
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unlike something like Edwards or Norton or even China Lake or White Sands Missile Range.
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One of the biggest features of this project was of course the Garrison Crash and then some
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of the claims of Area 51 being moved to Area 52.
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Conversely for a place like Edwards we have the story of Kent Celen and the ARV and numerous
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craft and operations being inside of that Dugway.
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There is more in this video I wasn't able to include.
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One such story is the testimony of Colonel Air Force Colonel Winebrenner.
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Now Winebrenner has a very interesting story as if anybody can remember back to the Jesse
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Michaels interview with James Fox, filmmaker James Fox.
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Fox discusses a film of a haunt the Holliman Air Force based landing and how his friend,
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Alan or yes, Alan Sandler viewed this film and told Fox about it.
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Well back in the 70s, Alan Sandler and his co-video producer Robert M. Ennager were attempting
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to make a documentary on UAP.
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This is when they were sequestered by two enlisted Air Force personnel and shown the Holliman
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film and were licensed to utilize the film but that licensing was pulled soon thereafter.
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One of these individuals was Colonel Winebrenner.
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Now on Colonel Winebrenner's deathbed to close friends and families he allegedly said
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that Utah is where the alien bodies are stored.
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Now that's a very interesting disclosure where the alien bodies are stored.
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This would be a very interesting place for this to be dugway.
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Of course quite often for detrick is talked about.
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I do believe Lou mentioned this and imminent as well but as a place for biologics to be
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stored and this is where much chemical and biological defense systems are ran and there's
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extreme ties to dugway with for detrick.
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There's also interesting data to explore of dugway being not just a craft exploitation
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program on the UTTR but also a biologics study area.
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Could this be where biologics autopsies take place where biological tissue is studied
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quite possibly but this would be kept under wraps as any chemical and biological data
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and information and study is incredibly secretive and incredibly classified as we've seen with
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You know, dugways projects are not spoken of often and 77% of dugways, according to
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the GAO, are conducted for the chemical and biological defense program.
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I would like to know what everybody else here thought and while you're leaving your comments
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let's also tuck into the testimony of MS.
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Of course I had talked to MS all the way back in June of 2024 and those are the clips
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I have used for the conversation in this video exploration.
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I do plan to interview MS again, hopefully in person if that can be arranged.
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Hopefully that can also be done with GP and the individual who claimed he helped build
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the railroad system under dugway.
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Such an investigation and interview with these three individuals would truly be consequential.
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You know I find a lot of value in MS's testimony not because of him being reached out to
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by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence which he indeed was.
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I said in the project that he had received, I have seen the outreach from these individuals
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wishing for him to go to the hill to testify but also because his testimony at Ditto and
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Avery leads to such fruitful research.
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As we've seen with Avery it has numerous, numerous fascinating buildings that could be
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used for such operations classified storage, test operations, photo O&M, internal rail
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system to the dugway deep underground facility.
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Just a very fascinating testimony to cover and I must add with the dugway dumb being just
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some small type of concrete facility out in the desert just serving as an elevator to
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a dumb where it's this entrance point doesn't serve to transport vehicles or armor or logistics
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or weaponry or food or anything but personnel traveling down.
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I must be quite plain here.
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In my videos I don't generally like to say well a source told me this, a source told me
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this, a source told me this but I do have a friend that has formerly served in the United
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This was in the early 2010s that has talked to me about traveling in Stiff's subterranean
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I cannot reveal these locations but he said he traveled across state lines between Stiff's
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in an underground rail system that went so fast it reminded him of flying in a plane of
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which he has great fear.
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So the fear of a plane's acceleration is what he felt in the train.
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What was interesting to me is the location to which he traveled.
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The entrance way to that location was a small what you could call janitorial building
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or kind of potable water treatment building in the middle of nowhere.
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Just a small building nestled in a location that accessing these buildings took you to
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an elevator to a deep underground facility.
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This is not the only individual I've talked to who has access to a Stiff.
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We're a dumb maybe we'll call him Stiff's because it carries a little more weight.
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I've talked to numerous people who have this is why this topic carries such great interest
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to me especially because dumbed or Stiff's are indeed real.
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As I said often times for corporate facilities such as AT&T who at least in the 90s and
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2000s housed many underground server banks and ICBM storage locations underground and possibly
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under water under ocean surface as well as continuity of government COG installation.
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The COG continuity of government reminds me a lot of when Colonel John B. Alexander who
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isn't the most trustworthy in my opinion talked about majestic 12 being real and serving
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as a continuity of government type institution.
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This also reminds me of what also reminds me of continuity of government is the description
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of the Dugway Dumb by GP which can talk about transporting the president's plane to
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anywhere in the country.
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So I hope everybody enjoyed this dive into Dugway.
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I'd like to know what everybody thinks this was a very important project to me because
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just as in every single video I discuss SDI the Strategic Defense Initiative FFRDCs or
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I can now incorporate such testimony of major range test facility bases and TNE test and
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evaluation research and development test and evaluation RDT and E into my projects.
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Remember guys when he left service witness Ed served on the Pentagon for Air Force RDT
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and E and this is where he claims that 34 and 40 billion dollars went missing to non-authorized
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transfer of authority funds in fiscal year I think 2013 and 2014 so doge if you're watching
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go look at Air Force and possibly Army RDT and E.
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Anyways what else can we discuss guys more interesting projects coming down the way?
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I don't gatekeep any content only support with you think the channel is worth and please
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If you've noticed some oddness with the old I here I'm dealing with some problems because
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that is what happens when you grapple with individuals who do not wash their training
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equipment enough do not wash the rash guards so thank you to that person who decided to wrestle
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with a very disgusting rash guard I really appreciate that but I'm also quite elated guys
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because anybody who watches the channel and has interacted with me knows I am an Alexander
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Volkanovsky superfan and our glorious king has just been booked to fight Diego Lopez blockhead
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Diego Lopez at UFC 314 in Miami come April so I am elated about that that the dangerous
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power puncher Toporio is moving up to Lightweight and vacating the belt this is sweet Christmas
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