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It didn't start or end with Roswell.
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The 20th century of the United States saw several now infamous alleged UFO crash cases
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that feature rich paper trails, a wealth of witnesses, and endless mystery.
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Today we travel to the Midwest of the continental United States to a sleepy town in Pennsylvania
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We're on the evening of December 9, 1965, something from the sky crashed into the nearby
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woods, sending the town and the US military into a frenzy, leading to one of the most
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discussed and debated UFO crash retrieval cases of all time.
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Hey guys, it's UAP Gurb.
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Today we finally visit one of my most requested crash retrieval cases, the 1965 Kexberg
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Pennsylvania UFO craft.
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Kexberg has long been a favorite case in mind, due to the exhausting lists of local witnesses,
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extensive press coverage, and fascinating ties to Blue Book and Project Moon Dust.
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What if anything crashed into the woods that cold winter evening?
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Was it a meteor as Blue Book claimed?
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A Soviet satellite like many debunkers have claimed, or indeed a craft of non-human intelligence
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as described by numerous eyewitnesses?
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In a quick note here guys, excellent research has been conducted by respected uphologists
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I will primarily be referencing the work of the most seasoned Kexberg investigator Stan
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Gordon, and the legend with whom Gordon shared much of his research and witnesses, Leonard
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In the early evening of December 9, 1965, thousands of residents across Michigan, Indiana, Ohio,
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West Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, and Canada, observed a fiery brilliant glow streak
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A ball of fire leaving a smoke trail, estimated to be visible for 20 minutes after the passing
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Numerous ground-based civilians and pilots initially thought the object to be an aircraft
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in peril, especially due to pieces of the object seemingly detaching and falling over
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LaPierre, Michigan, and Illuria, Ohio.
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The material would later be recognized and studied within the official Blue Book report
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As noted by Clark McLean, UFO researcher and former NASA Apollo Space Program member,
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as well as Dr. Paul and near Professor of Astronomy, the object would make a change of
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course roughly 25 degrees when traveling over Illuria, Ohio.
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Similar calculations showed the object to be between 40 and 60 miles in altitude when
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first observed from Michigan.
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McLean estimated the speed of the glowing object based on the distance of witness observations
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to be traveling at roughly 17 miles a minute or 1062 miles per hour.
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For reference, meteors traveled between 25 and 144,000 miles an hour.
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So even if McLean's calculations were off by a factor of 10, the object was still traveling
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at much slower speeds than a meteor in Earth's atmosphere.
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Around 4.45 pm, the object plunged into the woods of Kexberg, Pennsylvania.
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The object made a turn between Greensburg and Lightrobe, and was reported from local communities
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as a move towards the south.
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In the lower of the object turned again and began to track northeast towards the Kexberg
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area where reportedly impacted into the woods.
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Closely tracking the object, Project Blue Book dispatched a three-man air force team from
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the 660-second radar squadron at the Oakdale Army installation near Pittsburgh to investigate.
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The squadron was operating under control of the Aerospace Defense Command.
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These orders were presumably given by major Hector Kintanilla, who took the reins of Blue
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The 33-page report on Kexberg from Blue Book has Kintanilla's name all over the Memorandum
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for record, and it is important to note of Blue Book's conclusion of Kexberg.
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Under the major, the case was designated as a meteor, and quickly worth mentioning, Blue
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Book states the three-man team found no materials at the crash site.
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Blue Book curiously marks this case under ACME, Pennsylvania.
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Researchers are not sure, but one possibility is the Air Force personnel interviewed witnesses
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who lived nearby in the town of ACME.
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And speaking of Kintanilla, let's pay special attention to April 5, 1966, where the United
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States Air Force major, lied before the House Armed Services Committee, stating that Blue Book
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had no radar cases that were unexplained.
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Scientific adviser to Blue Book Jay Allen Heineck revealed this deception by providing three
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such cases, 1951 Goose Bay, 1956 Lake Inheath, and 1957 Shreveport.
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Although town residents argue to this day over what crashed in the woods that night, the
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town witnesses agree within an hour of the impact.
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Military forces swarmed the area almost as quickly as the arrival of Penn State Police
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and the Kexberg volunteer fireman.
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28 years, I'm a fireman here at Kexberg.
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It does make good as a young old fireman now that now we know that something did happen.
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The military was here.
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Everybody here is correct in what they see and what they heard.
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I think because of the lay of the land and the terrain, there was different points of
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vision from wherever they were at that point.
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The outcome of our town meeting, a majority consensus that something big did happen in
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Kexberg on December 9, 1965, and that despite the official report to the contrary, soldiers
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Regardless of Yusav and Blue Book denying a presence of more than three men at Kexberg,
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a statement that will later be contradicted by Dr. Eric A. Walker, Kexberg residents
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gave descriptions of multiple types of military men, US Army soldiers equipped with M1 rifles,
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Yusav personnel with blue fatigues and blue berets, and men in civilian clothing seemingly
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barking out orders, and some witnesses even described men in hazmat suits labeling them
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There are also myriad local press articles like these from the Pittsburgh press on December
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10, that also contradict the military's denial of a presence at Kexberg.
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The description of Air Force men may be paramount to investigating this crash recovery case.
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Refer to as Blue Berets, Leonard Stringfield made numerous mentions to a UFO crash recovery
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intelligence team, stemming from the Air Force Donned in Blue Fatigues and Blue Berets.
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In crash retrievals of the third kind, a case study of alleged UFOs and occupants in
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Stringfield stated he had been made aware from other military forces of a rapid reaction
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special forces unit named Blue Berets, who can quote,
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operate secretly and effectively by using diversionary tactics to prevent public interference.
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This unit was housed at certain military bases as rapid reaction units in a constant state
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of ready to address downed or crashed UFOs.
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Stringfield even stated to have met a former member of the elite Blue Berets when visiting
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the University of Dade City, Florida for a lecture quote,
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we talked about the elite force, its makeup and functions and some of his experiences
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in Vietnam behind enemy lines.
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Although he had never participated in a UFO crash retrieval, he was aware that one of
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his fellow members had the experience.
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Details were scanty, but Cam recalls that his friend referred to his participation in
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the recovery of a quote-unquote big head from an alien craft.
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In UFO crash retrieval status report for fatal encounters at Fort Dix McGuire, Stringfield
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met with a man named Jeff Morse, who claimed to be a former Blue Beret.
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Morse would tell Stringfield in 1985 to 1987 about an incident at Fort McGuire Air Force
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Base in which a non-human entity was shot to death by US forces.
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Quite a bit to discuss about the Blue Berets, so maybe we will save that for another video.
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But I do want to mention Air Force Blue Berets were made famous with the creation of the
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USAF 1041 Security Police Squadron, which operated during 1965 to 1967.
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The 1041s in their Blue Berets were implemented in Operation Safe Side, in which the Air Force
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deployed a highly trained unit of combat security police known as active defense to
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repel raids on air bases in Vietnam.
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But the origins of USAF personnel in Blue Fatigue and Blue Berets can be traced back
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to 1956, with the creation of the Strategic Air Command Elite Guard under General Curtis
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Lamey, who I have spoken about many times.
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The SAC Elite Guards operated as air police from 1956 to 1966 within the time of our
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Kexpert case, serving as part of the US Air Force and US Department of Defense.
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The Blue Berets SAC Elite Guard were tasked with providing security at headquarters of
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Strategic Air Command of the US Air Force.
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One such SAC bases lock-borne air force base in Columbus, Ohio.
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Remember the mention of this base as we will later discuss a witness who claimed to have
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briefly guarded the crashed UAP from Kexpert at Lockburn AFB.
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Let's get back to Kexpert and analyze the events around the time of an object crashing
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With news media starting to swirl about stories of a fireball crashing in the area, local
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news director John Murphy out of WHJB Greensburg, Pennsylvania received a call from a startled
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mother, who claimed she and her children had observed a fiery object fall into the woods
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where a cloud of blue smoke began rising after impact.
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After listening to many such calls through the past years, it's fairly easy to tell by
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the told-in-a-person whether they believe what they're saying or whether it's a prank
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This woman to me sound like she believed and was sincere.
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I remember what she was saying.
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Murphy, a key player in the story moving forward, arrived to the woods and investigated
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the scene for some time before Carl Metz, a state police fire marshal and another investigator
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arrived to the scene.
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The two investigators entered the woods and upon returning and being questioned by Murphy,
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said Murphy, quote, you better get your information from the army.
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Murphy would then arrive to the state police barracks in Greensburg for more information,
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where he observed army and air force men swarming the location.
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Murphy had covered hard news for decades.
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He wasn't prepared for the state troopers response.
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Murphy would interview many town residents about what they saw and experienced in Kexberg,
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the evening of December 9th, an excitedly pieced together a radio documentary titled
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Object in the Woods.
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Curiously, Murphy's wife and other WHJB employees would state Murphy was approached by men at
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the station leading to a radical alteration of his program.
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Murphy would broadcast a heavily censored version of his documentary, starting the event
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with an odd disclaimer.
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And state that many witnesses whose testimony had been taped no longer wished to air their
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segments due to fear of reprisals from the US Army.
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Stan Gordon would even go so far as to state he had received notarized documents from
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Claiming USG elements were confiscating news tapes of eyewitness accounts and were not
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allowing said account to be broadcasted.
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John Murphy would tragically die in a hit and run incident shortly after the event, and
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never claimed publicly to have entered the woods and to have seen what crashed in Kexberg.
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But in 2003, John's wife claimed he had told her of entering the woods and witnessed
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a strange metallic object on the ground.
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What was this object observed by so many and that later witnesses would state was transported
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out of the woods in the early morning of December 10th by Army trucks covered by a tarp?
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Fortunately, we have numerous witness testimony to analyze.
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There was no tail section, there was no motors, there was no windows, there was no doors,
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there was big enough for a growing person to stand up in.
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It had like Egyptian riding, like backwards riding on it.
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Stars and circles and dashes and lines and things like that.
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It looked like an acorn.
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It was really weird.
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A first hand witness questioned at length by both Stan Gordon and Leonard Stringfield
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is James often referred to as Jim Romanski.
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Romanski served as a volunteer fireman whose company was dispatched to Kexberg to assist
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with the search of what was thought to be a downed aircraft.
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Romanski first approached Gordon in 1987 to tell his story.
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He had previously feared ridicule for years but wanted to finally give his testimony.
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On the night of 1965, with the search teams combing the woods, Romanski heard via walkie-talkie
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the crash site had been discovered.
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Upon arriving to the scene, the fireman witnessed an object half buried in the ground.
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This object appeared to have descended into the forest at a 30 degree angle, breaking tree
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limbs before impacting the ground and leaving a 25-foot-long trench.
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There were no signs of fire in the area.
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I want you to describe what you saw when you arrived in this field where the supposed
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downed aircraft was.
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Well, first of all, we were in a field hunting for it as downed aircraft and the first rescue
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team already found it and radioed it into the fire hall gave the coordinates and it
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was down in front of us and we high-tailed it out of our search area and went down into
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We got there expecting a smashed up airplane, wings, fuselage, etc.
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Came down into the woods and here's this humongous piece of metal laying there.
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This thing I've described time and time again as a very large, egg-corn-shaped object.
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The front of it, or I presume, was the front of it, was pushed down into the dirt where
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the way it came in landed after it took out the top of the trees and brushing everything
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Came back in an all-belong shape.
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On the bottom was what I call a bumper and then the bottom was perfectly flat.
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No signs of propulsion or anything.
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There was no doors, no windows.
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There was no way to get in this thing.
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At least none that I seen.
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There was no seams on it, no rivets, nothing.
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The only thing I seen was this bumper around it and had these real strange markings on
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it, which I've often referred to as similar to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.
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So as a volunteer firing, we did what we were supposed to do.
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Find the crash site, do a preliminary investigation for survivors who treat anybody, which we didn't
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because there was none that we could see.
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There was no way of getting in this object.
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The object appeared to be a large metallic acorn or bell measuring 10 to 12 feet in length
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8 to 10 feet in diameter.
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The raised ring area measured about 8 to 10 inches wide.
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The wingless, seamless and rivetless object was described as Romansky as a bronze off-gold
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As a seasoned machinist, Romansky stated the object almost looked like it had been made
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from a liquid metal mold and told researcher Stan Gordon, quote,
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�Never in my life have I seen the color of that metal in any shape or form,�
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The presence of the described hieroglyphic writing has been a point of contention for the
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kickbird case, with some believing the object to be a Soviet space capsule and the writing
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to be Russian Cyrillic.
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Romansky described the writing as, quote, �characters of broken and straight lines, dots,
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rectangles and circles�,� Romansky would even explicitly state to Leonard Stringfield.
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He was familiar with the Russian language and the markings he observed were not
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�My dad is originally from Kiev and I went to him one time and I said, �Dad, you
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could read in your right post and Russian� he says, �Yeah, I said, �Write me something
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in both dialects� he says, �What?� I said, �Just write me anything�.
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The post and Russian writing that I see doesn't come nowhere near.
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I think it imperative to include much of Jim's testimony on the 1993 Montel William
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show due to his fiery and passionate demeanor and discussion of how his presence at the
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kickbird case affected his children�s time in the U.S. armed services.
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The first team that already read a unit in his position were there 10, 15 minutes all
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talking around doing a preliminary search, wondering what we discovered. Two gentlemen
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come down through the woods, trench coats on, ramrod stiff, crew cut.
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All right, this is a restricted area.
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You're not ordered to get out of here.
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Wait a minute, I'm a civilian.
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You ain't going to order me nothing.
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But as a fireman, I'm being relieved from what I'm doing.
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So I got out of there.
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We're going out through the woods.
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We didn't go into more than 15, 20 feet.
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And I know from me to you, here come the military, full uniforms, equipment, marks you're
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right down through the woods with flashlights.
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How far away were you from a military base?
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Well the closest base that I knew of was Pittsburgh, which was approximately 45 miles to the west.
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So within 15 minutes of your arrival at the site, the military was there.
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Now what did they say to you after this happened?
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I mean, I know there were several members of the report I saw on unsolved mysteries.
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Several members of the community were there.
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Other people who were part of the community were there and present and were all told to leave.
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There was no press or media at the immediate crash site.
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What I didn't know up on top of the hill, because I'd come in through the side, the military
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had taken over a farmhouse.
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I mean, from what I understand, military brass.
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They took over up there, did all their orders and whatever they were doing from up there.
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And that's why I presume that the military who came down through the woods came from.
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Because we went out, we had to walk back to the fire hall, which was approximately the
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I'd say a good mile.
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But by the time we got back to the fire hall, it was wall-to-wall military.
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I mean, there were trucks and jeeps and cars.
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There was guards on the door.
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Did anybody say to you, I don't want you talking about this?
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Don't say a word about this or what they debriefed.
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I mean, these people virtually told us just to shut up, get to your vehicles and be quiet.
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I got a, I have a daughter and a son that both went into the military within the last
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One went into Marine Corps, one went into U.S. Air Force.
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My daughter come to me from the United States Marine Corps and she said, Dad, your name
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come up on a computer as my father.
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I had to sign a statement saying, I would never ask a request for any information from
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My son had to sign two states.
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All about you, about yourself?
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Any information about yourself?
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You had your daughter had to sign a paper that said she would not ask for any information
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Not about me, but about Kexberg.
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Okay, but what happened?
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Might have come up as her father.
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Okay, but you know what?
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Wait a minute, Monkel.
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Then my son and the U.S. Air Force had to sign two papers.
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Get to, just jump to the chase because part of the chase here is the fact that I spent,
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I'm telling you, I had some of the highest clearance in this country has to offer.
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I've been through files on top of files on top of files.
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I still ain't seen nothing yet.
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But did you have anything to know?
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You didn't have any to know.
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You didn't have that to know.
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That's also not true.
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My son goes in the Air Force and they tell him he can't even request to go to Wright
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Patterson Air Force base for duty because I've seen something and that's where my UFO
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Maybe his MLS was something that they didn't have a qualification for at Wright Patterson
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His MLS has nothing to do with it.
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Okay, all right, all right.
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The government is covering this up.
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They don't want, no one to know they don't want, no one to get access to anything because
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they're afraid people will find out the truth.
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During his time spent with Stan Gordon, Romanski would take the researcher to the exact
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This site would line up, identically, to the description of our next witness, Bill
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Bulliebush, who to the best of our knowledge had no interaction with Romanski.
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Bill Bulliebush was driving his car in the afternoon of December 9, 1965, where he observed
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the object streaking over the sky.
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Bill stated, quote, the object appeared to hesitate over the lowerville area, then made
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a turn and then began to travel northeast towards Kexberg, end quote, where he then saw
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Witnessing the object's descent, Bill turned his car and went to the top of the hill, now
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called Meteor Road, where he observed blue lights flashing in the woods.
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As the sky was getting dark, Bulliebush claimed to walk into the woods to the crash site,
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where he looked upon a metallic acorn-shaped object embedded into the soil.
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The object featured the same strange riding noticed by Romanski, and Bulliebush noted
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blue-arcing light emanating from the object at intervals.
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And like I stood here and I happened to look up there and there there was it embedded
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right into the ground about a foot and a half.
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Bulliebush's description of the object supports the theory that it was probably not a meteorite.
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I was working on a 64-core ver at home.
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I happened to see this red ball of fire going across, get come up and went towards the
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mountain just like if it was radio control.
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It made a figure eight and it came right down in here and Bellylanded right in here,
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locked it off of the trees out.
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It's stuck like rotten eggs, you could smell it, you know, and then just like sizzling
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and like sparks coming, just like if it was cool enough, it was red hot.
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Bulliebush is the only witness I'm aware of to describe the presence of a smell.
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The description of a strong smell in this case, rotten eggs, aka a sulfuric smell reminds
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me closely of the strong ammonia smell witnesses described in the 1997 Varsina Brazil case.
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Bill Bulliebush who fled the woods when he heard the fireman approaching, independently
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described a nearly identical object.
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I can see it, pretty good.
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It was no welding, no wind, no nothing on it.
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I'm not on the back with a ring and it had like a gypsum riding on it and I couldn't
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figure out what it was.
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From his statements, we can piece together, Bulliebush left the scene upon the arrival of
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the fire crew who witnessed the object for a span of 15 minutes until the men described
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by Romansky ordered the fireman to leave.
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And we do have a witness who states he observed the craft and retrieval crew departing the
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In the early 1990s, I witnessed Jerry Betters, a Pittsburgh jazz musician, came forward
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At 41 years old in 1965, Betters lived near the area of Kexberg in a town called Murray's
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Jerry noticed the now infamous fireball which agitated the horses he was feeding and surrounding
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Upon hearing the news report of the object crashing in Kexberg, Jerry phoned his friends
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to pick him up and head to the town for a look.
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Unfamiliar with the area, the men found themselves on a private lane.
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After rounding a slight turn, Jerry stated he was halted by a military roadblock.
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The soldiers halting traffic appeared to wear army fatigues with cloth burrays.
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But other soldiers equipped with rifles and helmets stood at attention behind the roadblock.
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Betters noticed a number of quote-unquote military brass officers, well dressed civilians,
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and scattered army star emblazoned jeeps and personnel trucks.
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Jerry's attention was commanded towards a large cabin flatbed trailer.
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He noticed a domed or acorn-shaped object that was uncovered in being hauled away from
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Luckily a tarp was placed over the object.
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Betters noted the truck seemed to have trouble traversing up through the field.
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Jerry Betters also described the truck and his encounter in a notarized document.
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Out of this woods came this flatbed char-primey char-primey on the back of this thing with
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this object, acorn-type shape, maybe it was a little bigger than the most wetty.
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Suddenly, Betters and his friends found themselves on the business ends of several soldiers'
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This officer came down and he shouted, he sold it.
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He said, get these people out of here.
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They did their culture guns on.
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Betters and friends were ordered to leave, not before catching a glimpse of what was under the tarp.
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But he still believes was a spacecraft from another world.
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I could see what was shaped like, and I could see this hard-glyphic stuff all on the back.
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And that's when he chased the south.
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There's two things I can remember very clearly.
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I can remember when I thought if Kennedy was killed exactly what I was doing, I can
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remember this night exactly.
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We do have other witnesses who claim to have been held at gunpoint by the attending military
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One such individual is local resident David Newhouse.
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It's certain things you never forget.
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The first time I ever had a gun pointed at me, kind of hard to forget, you know, definitely
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a rifle straight up right at me.
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And you got my attention.
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I think I was in the army.
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I know it was a military rifle.
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That was an M1 I was looking at.
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I know what rifles are.
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I belong to the NRAs.
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You see my sticker on the back.
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I don't like them pointed at me that.
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So they told us to get, you know, out of here, in which we just turned around and came
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right back down the hill.
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We didn't question them.
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And in fact, there are dozens of witness testimony from Kexpert locals and nearby citizens
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we could analyze all day.
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Like that of then teenager Bill Weaver, who noticed four men exit a light-colored box
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truck dressed in, quote, unquote, moon suits and head towards the crash area.
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Or then 14-year-old Mike Slater, who stated an army officer told Mike and his friend
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they could do a great service to their country by sending curious crash-seekers wrong directions.
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We even have witnesses who state they observed the craft after it was taken out of the field,
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and we will address these shortly.
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A bell-shaped craft big enough to fit a man with strange, hieroglyphic writing was described
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by many civilian witnesses the night of December 9, 1965.
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It is interesting how Blue Book contended the object was a meteor and that nothing was
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found at the crash site after all of the witness testimony and trajectory and speed calculations
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conducted while the object was in the air that are not consistent with meteor travel.
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As mentioned earlier, Blue Book did receive some fragmented material that was seen to fall
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off of the craft, sent to Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
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Blue Book declared this material as chaff, which is, quote, material dropped by aircraft
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to confuse radar complexes when participating in interdiction exercises, end quote.
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The conclusion of a meteor with presence of this said chaff leads to further inconsistencies
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in Blue Book's reporting.
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Many skeptics of Kecksburg stated the craft may have been the remains of Soviet spacecraft
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This conclusion was not supported in a 1965 NASA press release, which stated Cosmos 96 had
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decayed and landed in Canada, roughly 13 hours prior to the Kecksburg event.
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This NASA briefing says, quote, other analyses of the spacecraft orbit definitively indicate
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it could not have been the Cosmos 96 spacecraft end quote.
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Stan Gordon further concluded the Kecksburg event was not the result of Cosmos 96 when
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he received documents through FOIA requests from both the US Space Command and Naval Surveillance
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Center, which verified Cosmos 96 entered the atmosphere at roughly 3.18 am, Eastern
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Standard Time over Canada, on December 9, 1965.
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Some such as NASA mission specialist James Oberg maintained the object was a capsule of
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Soviet origin recovered in secrecy for its heat shielding.
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Joining us now from Houston is Space Flight Engineer and author James Oberg, who has
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studied the reported sighting in Kecksburg and has his own theory about what landed there
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Mr. Oberg, first of all, do you believe that something crashed in Kecksburg in 1965 and was
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If it's anything, it might be something a lot more Earth-like.
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It might be a spacecraft from Russia and not from Mars.
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It turns out we do know that a Russian probe fell back to Earth that day and it was a
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special kind of probe.
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It was one of their probes to the planet Venus.
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It failed, was trapped in Earth orbit and eventually fell out of orbit.
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What might have been on that Russian space probe that the US would have been so interested
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The most important thing about the probe would be the heat shield, how thick it was, what
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material was made out of, how heavy it was.
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Once we knew that, we could then analyze how big their warheads would be in their ICBMs.
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But in this clip, it is necessary to mention Oberg is still mentioning Cosmos 96.
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Others have wondered if the craft was indeed a Gemini or Orion capsule expelled in the
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area, such as Assistant Chief of Kecksburg Fire Department Jim Mays, who got within 75
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yards of the object but didn't get a clear view.
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But the idea of a man-made space capsule crashing into the Midwest of the continental United
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States was further discredited in this May 2000 Leslie Kean conference titled, Combating
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Media Ridicule and Searching for Evidence on the 1965 Kecksburg Crash Case.
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Some of you may know journalist Leslie Kean, as the writer of the 2017 New York Times
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article, bringing the Pentagon UAP videos an OSAP slash A-TIP to the public zeitgeist.
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In this conference, Kean discussed her correspondence with Nicholas Johnson, NASA Chief Scientist for
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Orbital Debreas at the NASA Johnson Space Center.
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Johnson analyzed the orbital data of the Soviet Venus probe Cosmos 96 and determined the
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object could not have landed in Kecksburg near 5 p.m. December 9, 1965.
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Furthermore, Johnson stated no man-made space object landed in Pennsylvania on the day
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Well, I was able to contact an important scientist from NASA, probably the leading expert in
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the world on this issue, and he was named Nicholas Johnson.
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He's the Chief Scientist for Orbital Debreas at the NASA Johnson Space Center.
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He was able to obtain the coordinates of Cosmos 96 so that he could calculate if part
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of it had kept state and orbit after the crash that happened that morning, could have landed
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in Pennsylvania, and he was able to determine absolutely not, made the statement for us that
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it is impossible that that could have been Cosmos 96.
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And the more interesting statement he made was that in fact, there is no man-made object
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that came down over Pennsylvania at 5 o'clock on that day.
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There is no man-made object.
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And he said that he has the databases and the knowledge to determine even if it had been
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a some kind of secret experiment, he would be aware of it.
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He was also able to eliminate the project, Corona, which was a project that was dropping
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It was sending out these spy satellites to Russia, photographing things from the sky, flying
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back over the United States and dropping canisters, which were then retrieved.
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Some people have thought that that might have been what it was.
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He was also able to eliminate that.
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Keane's work on retrieving official Kexberg documents is truly fascinating.
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In the early 2000s working with the coalition of Freedom of Information, CFI, Keane took
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legal action towards NASA for stone-walling files on Kexberg.
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And in 2007, she won.
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A settlement in October of 07 required NASA to provide hundreds of never-before-seen documents
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to Keane and CFI while paying all legal fees.
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The search for documents on the craft was completed by August 2009, where NASA posted
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Moon Dust documents, with zero relation to Kexberg.
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According to a NASA public affairs document, quote,
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NASA sent its files to the National Archives for Safekeeping two years after the Kexberg
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In 1996, the National Archives told NASA that the files had been marked as lost since
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We won't spend any time on Moon Dust, but if you have never heard of the program, I highly
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recommend watching my video on Moon Dust, which covers this program in depth along with
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its fellow programs, UFO and Blue Fly.
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Tassed with recovering descended foreign space vehicles during the Cold War.
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It is a very strange convenience that files relating to Kexberg were lost forever.
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But let's explore what witnesses like Romanceki, Bulibush, Bette's, and Miriad other witnesses
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describe crashing into the woods that cold evening.
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So you got your flying eggs, your tick-tax, I guess you now call them, we just call them
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pills, your old-fashioned saucers, bells, triangles, whole mess of shapes.
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But the ones that crash are almost always the eggs and the bells, and they're smaller
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I think they're the drones that are remotely operated.
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And when they crash, you have to get really lucky because they have a habit of just disintegrating.
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Many will remember when I covered this Infographics Crash Retrieval Operator video that contained
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a fascinating firsthand testimony.
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They rarely do well-known UFO sightings describe a bell or acorn-shaped craft.
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Certainly not one that is bronze, 10-12 feet high with strange riding along the base.
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But as it turns out, there are a wealth of similar sightings we can analyze.
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Let's take a look at this December 2, 1952 blue bookcase in the Quincy, Louisiana, where
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multiple eyewitnesses observed an acorn-shaped object emitting pink, green, red, and yellow
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lights moving up and down an altitude for a period of two and a half hours.
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We can also analyze this November 10, 1956 blue bookcase in Massachusetts, where both
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civilian and military sources observed an acorn-shaped featuring a white base, red side, and green
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Blue book labeled this case as probably the planet Venus.
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On August 23, 1957, blue book reported a sighting of a bell-shaped object climb and move
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out of eyesight of observers in New Jersey.
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The case was explained away as a weather balloon from Philadelphia Municipal Airport.
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Around the time of Kexberg, November 1965 to be exact, residents in Manhattan, New York
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reported to blue book of a bell-shaped UFO hovering above Manhattan during an electricity
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There are over half a dozen other blue bookcases I can reference off at the top of my head, like
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a 7-8-foot bell changing colors in 1965 scene over Bunky, Louisiana.
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In the video description, you can find additional blue bookcases featuring bell or acorn-shaped
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UFOs from 1957, 1954, 1965, and 1957.
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But I would like to draw your attention to a now-deleted Reddit entry titled, quote,
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I worked on a team that dealt with NHI technology and left in 2018, end quote.
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This alleged Reddit whistleblower is another in a long line of enigmatic, anonymous individuals
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who make astonishing claims on Reddit, 4chan, or other message boards before deleting
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their profiles, leaving users debating endlessly to the validity of their entries.
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I will save exploring this testimony for a full video as I find this post fascinating,
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but to summarize this post, the leaker became disgruntled and sought to vent about his career
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within an agency that dealt with issues related to non-human intelligence.
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One paragraph of this perplexing post caught my attention, quote, later I worked in a facility
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within a facility just like the one I had tried to inspect, it stored a craft.
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Being near the craft for extended periods of time is extremely dangerous, especially if
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it is being experimented on with power.
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I didn't observe any injuries to anyone while I was there, but all sorts of long-term
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nasty injuries were related to me through rumors and warnings.
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The craft was shaped like a dreidel without the handle.
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There was a large exterior piece that went missing when it was recovered.
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The theory is it acted as a stabilizer, although some argue it was a crude weapon, end
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Before we break this down, the anonymous poster also said quote, the shape was directly
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informed by its purpose.
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Every shape is custom molded in a metallic material that would revolutionize the way
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we travel if we had it, end quote.
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This method of molding sounds extremely similar to the statements of firsthand Kexberg
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witness and machinist Jim Romansky.
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Because I've been a machinist for almost 30 years now.
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And I've cut a law of metal.
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And I've never run into it again, never.
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Discussion of peril to human bodies and cognition when in proximity to UAP is being heavily explored
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And as even been mentioned in a graphic in Luezando's book Eminent, the craft description,
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a dreidel without its handle, sounds almost identical to the craft Romansky, Bullybush,
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Betters, and others described.
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The Reddit user also states a large exterior piece went missing when the craft was recovered.
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While remember back to our 1965 fireball, witnesses discussed pieces falling off of the
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blazing fireball in the sky.
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Blue Book even claimed whoever retrieved pieces of chaff from the object.
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Interesting I am once again drawn to whistleblower Stephen Lovekin, who claimed a special classified
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portion of Blue Book had actually recovered debris from the Roswell wreckage.
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Lastly, the writing described as hieroglyphics reminds me of three other cases.
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The writing on the Roswell debris described by primary witness Jesse Marcel Senior.
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The writing along the lip of a crashed craft, Danny Shehan observed photos of, and the
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classified files of Blue Book while underorder from President Jimmy Carter.
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And the writings that appeared to project off of what was considered recovered weapon technology
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by witness RA at the off-world technologies division.
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I will discuss Dr. Eric A. Walker only briefly as I have already covered him in my
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majestic documents project with Ryan Wood and in my Robert Sarbacher and the early days
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of the UFO crash retrieval video.
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Robert Sarbacher, physicist and member of the US Joint Research and Development Board,
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claimed Dr. Eric A. Walker in an interview with Stanton Friedman, implicating Dr. Walker
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as an integral member to UFO crash retrieval and UFO study alongside Dr. Vannevar Bush.
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Dr. Eric A. Walker was the president of Penn State University from 1956 to 1971.
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A member of many defense boards including Chairman of the Institute for Defense Analysis and
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the Executive Secretary of the Defense Research Board from 1950 to 1951.
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Throughout the 1980s Walker would be contacted by numerous UFO researchers, such as William
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Steinman and Habib Henry Azadahel, a pseudonym for Armin Victorian.
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Walker would confirm attendance at meeting centered on UFO crash and body retrieval efforts
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Discuss the validity of MJ-12.
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Comment on the difficulty of breakthroughs in UFO reverse engineering and make all sorts
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of cryptic statements on needing to understand ESP to become involved with UFO programs.
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Let's break down this conversation between Armin Victorian and Walker where Kecksburg
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is referenced and before we do an interesting note.
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Primary Kecksburg researchers Stan Gordon did state there was a report of someone fitting
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Dr. Walker's description at the crash site.
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In the interview, Walker states he went to the Kecksburg crash site with two men from
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the military that were not on duty.
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He also went with a fellow colleague of his.
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When asked if it was a UFO recovered, Walker states quote, I cannot comment on that, I
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Walker would not comment on if he was at the crash site for long but did state he and
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the other men did not prepare any reports.
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Two men from the military but not on duty so we can rule out here that these were the
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three use half blue book personnel from the 660 second radar squadron dispatched to
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Could Walker and his mentioned off duty military companions possibly be the men in civilian
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clothes referenced by numerous eyewitnesses or possibly the men in trench coats who ordered
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Romansky and the fireman away from the UFO?
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And we must ask why did Walker not prepare any reports?
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Can we take Walker's refusal to comment on the presence of a UFO as an admission that
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non-human technology did in fact crash in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania?
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And last part here, Walker mentions a colleague of his accompanying him to the crash site.
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In 1965 Walker was serving as president of Pennsylvania State University.
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A shadowy witness I covered and spoke to is TB.
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I highly recommend watching my UFO witness list redacted video to analyze his entire story.
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According to alleged emails with Dr. Stephen Greer, TB stated UFO program usaps on acknowledge
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special access programs are embedded within UARCs.
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University affiliated research centers for the Department of Defense.
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As it turns out, Pennsylvania State University does indeed have a UARC, the applied research
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laboratory for the U.S. Navy.
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In fact, Walker would help create the applied research center at the behest of the U.S. Navy
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in 1945 following World War II, where Dr. Walker moved 100 engineers from Harvard to Penn
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Not only was this ARL awarded the largest research contract in Penn State history, $2.1 billion
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dollars from the Navy, the ARL also currently specializes in prototyping novel power and energy
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systems, electro optics and directed energy.
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Could Walker and his colleague have been tasked with investigating the Kecksburg crash for
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UAP program stemming from Penn State University's affiliated research center, the applied research
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In his 2024 book, Eminent, Lew Elisando named Lyndon B. Johnson amongst Truman, Eisenhower,
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JFK, Carter, Reagan, HW Bush and Trump, as presidents who are briefed into some to all
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of the UFO phenomenon.
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This statement by Elisando plus his relationship with Dr. Eric Walker, who self-admitted he
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was present at the Kecksburg crash leads us to do some serious investigation into Lyndon
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B. Johnson, who served in office from 1963 to 1969.
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We can see in Lentian in the White House, dated August 3rd, 1964, Eric A. Walker amongst
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other colleague presidents met with Lyndon B. Johnson.
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Walker was also the only university president to be invited by Johnson to attend the Clean
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Air Act signing in the White House in 1967.
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But we can also find a handful of letters between Walker and Johnson, such as the September
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10th, 1964 letter in which the president writes Walker thanking him profusely for his service
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as a member of the Board of Visitors to the US Military Academy.
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Some unreferenced actions recommended by Walker were to be instated by the Secretary of Defense
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at Johnson's request.
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This report very well may have nothing to do with UAP, but Johnson and Walker were close
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enough to exchange personal letters.
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Let's also analyze the September 24th, 1964 letter addressed to Dr. Walker from Johnson,
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requesting Walker to personally recommend a university student to honor as a young leader.
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Or how about this May 18th, 1966 letter dated after the Kecksburg incident in which Johnson
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again profusely thanks Walker for his service as a member in chairman of the National Science
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One Dr. Hornig is mentioned here, pay attention to that name for later.
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In this letter, Lyndon B. Johnson cryptically says, quote, I should also like to thank you
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for the unstinting manner in which you served your government in other areas, including
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your recent tenure as a Board of the Defense Science Board.
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First how deep was this relationship between the president and a man associated with USG
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crash retrieval efforts?
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Johnson also had a provable interest in UFOs during his time in the US Senate before his presidency.
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In this article titled, Lyndon B. Johnson calls for UFO alert.
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We can see Johnson attempted to institute a military subcommittee to report UFO sightings
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Johnson even wrote to Major Donald Kehoe, an excellent u-fologist and author of the Flying
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Sossar Conspiracy in 1960 thanking Kehoe for delivering documented evidence on UFOs.
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With all of this interest in UFOs and his relationship with the shadowy Dr. Eric Walker,
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what was Johnson doing during and after the December 9, 1965 Kecksburg event and how much
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In his 2024 release of all of his research files, Grant Cameron has supplied incredibly
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crucial documents discussing Johnson's actions and meetings around the time of the Kecksburg
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Here we find President Lyndon B. Johnson's schedule for December 9 through the 11th 1965.
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Since the time of the Kecksburg event occurred around 4-5pm Eastern Standard, we will begin
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to analyze late appointments on the 9th and meetings the following day.
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The evening of December 9, the president seemed to partake in many leisure activities, dinner,
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driving around the Texas White House, watching the evening news, etc.
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On the morning of December 10, 950 to be exact, solely an hour after waking, we see
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a massive roster of guests arrive for an exhausting day of meetings.
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The arrivals include the Joint Chiefs of Staff or JCS as I'll refer to them, the Secretary
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and Under Secretary of Defense.
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Doctors such as the aforementioned Dr. Donald Hornig, high up USG officials, NASA Director
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James Webb and more.
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While no meetings this day make explicit mention of Kecksburg, Soviet spy satellites or ICBMs,
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every single one of these names offer crucial insight and a key piece to the puzzle of the
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In the possibility of a red in-president, addressing a pressing UFO crash retrieval.
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Almost immediately upon the guest arrival, the president began his meetings.
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For over two hours from 10-10am to 12-51pm, Johnson met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff Bill
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Moyers, Joe Califano, Secretary McNamara and Secretary Vance.
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There is a lot to break down here as each name warrants investigation.
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The Joint Chiefs of Staff include US Navy Admiral Donald L. McDonald, who was in 1965 serving
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as the Chief of Naval Operations in General Wallace M. Green, common-dont of the US Marine
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Corps, not much to analyze about these gentlemen.
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But during LBJ's presidency, USF General J. P. McConnell served as Chief of Staff for
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the US Air Force, upon taking his position on February 1, 1965, he relieved General Curtis
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If that name sounds familiar, we have discussed Lamey earlier in this video and at length
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as the General who denied Senator Barry Goldwater to the Blue Room at Wright Patterson Air Force
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And congratulated Harry B. Cooper for his work on the quote-unquote UFO program.
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Lamey's ties to uFology are vast.
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Also among the JCS was US Army General Earl Wheeler, who sat as the chairman for the
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Joint Chiefs of Staff, worth noting Wheeler shot to the top of the ranks of the US military
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without much combat experience, eliciting criticism from many including none other than General
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Curtis Lamey, who called Wheeler, quote, Polly Parrot, unquote.
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A small detail worth noting after the meeting all of the Chiefs of Staff took a car ride
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with Johnson, all but the underqualified Wheeler.
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The last Chief of Staff present in the early meetings is General Harold K. Johnson, Chief
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of Staff for the US Army.
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Johnson spearheaded the 8th Calvary Regiment, which in Vietnam was a component of the first
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The division I suspected in the Infographics Whistleblower video to contain the soldiers
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who witnessed the crashed UAP.
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These Joint Chiefs of Staff were all overly qualified to be associated with the program
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and brief Johnson on the crashed UFO from the evening before, but this trail goes even
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As previously mentioned, including in the morning meetings were Bill Moyers, the personal assistant
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to Lyndon B. Johnson, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, Deputy Secretary of Defense
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Cyrus Vance, and Naval veteran special assistant of the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense,
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Califeno would attend many of the meetings with Johnson the day of the 10th, but here let's
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make special notice to Califeno's duty as a member of the Federal Radiation Council.
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Califeno had a history of dealing with aerial collisions and crashes that required the atomic
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energy commissions involvement, such as this December 4th and 5th 1965 case of a mid-air
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What is interesting to note here is a subsequent off-record meeting with Califeno and Buford
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Elington, Director of the Office of Emergency Planning on December 13th, 1965, four days
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Why was this off-record meeting sent to Grant Cameron from the Lyndon B. Johnson Library
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and Museum considered off-record?
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Following the JCS car ride excluding Wheeler, the guests engaged in lunch before Johnson
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met with McNamara, Vance, Bill Moyers, and Dr. Donald Hornig, as well as Secretary
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Donald Hornig served as Presidential Science Advisor to Johnson after also serving the
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late John F. Kennedy Jr.
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The Presidential Science Advisor was a position first held by Dr. Vannevar Bush to Franklin
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D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman.
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This should ring a bell to anybody familiar with the majestic documents.
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The last member of this post-lunch meeting included Secretary Orville Freeman, US Secretary
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of Agriculture under Johnson from 1961 to 1969.
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Why would a former Marine and Secretary of Agriculture be present at a meeting with three
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Secretaries of Defense and the Science Advisor to the President?
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What is even weirder here is the presence of James Webb alongside and under Secretary
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I take you to July 9, 1947, just two days after the Roswell crash where James Webb, sitting
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as the director of the Bureau of the Budget, made late evening calls to Norris E. Dodd.
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Under Secretary of Agriculture, this may very well be a stretch here, but we must pursue
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all research angles.
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Was Webb discussing the Roswell event with Dodd and do positions like Secretary of Agriculture
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in twine more with UAP programs than we might think?
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I won't spend too much more time on the meetings as we have already discussed the significance
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of most of the members in their grouping, and I have glossed over some of the other interesting
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players like Dr. Glenn Seaborg, who was a Nobel Prize-winning chemist and atomic energy
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chairman from 61 to 71.
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I could make an entire video on the significance of this day of meetings, but the JCS and every
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single individual summoned to Johnson's Texas residence the day after Kexberg holds massive
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importance and possibly signifies a day of briefings and meetings on the crash.
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To further our investigation of Kexberg, we can analyze multiple witnesses claiming to
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have observed the Kexberg bell after it was dragged from the woods that cold winter night.
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One such witness contacted Stan Gordon before the airing of a 1990 unsolved mysteries broadcast
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on Kexberg and provided detailed information on his experience with the Kexberg craft.
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According to this witness, as a member of the Air Force security team at Lockborne Air Force
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Base near Columbus, Ohio, he guarded the object on the early morning of December 10, 1965
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after the object had been transported from Pennsylvania.
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According to this witness, after arriving on a truck, the craft was backed into a hangar
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and security was greatly tightened around the base.
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The object whose description matched the 10-12-foot bronze bell apparently stayed at the base
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only a short time the morning of the 10th, before being transported to Wright Patterson Air Force
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Base in Columbus, Ohio.
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And we do have witnesses who claim to have observed the bell at Wright Pat.
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This witness, Myron, first contacted Stan Gordon after the airing of the 1990 unsolved
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mysteries broadcast and was interviewed and investigated by the legendary Leonard Stringfield.
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The trucker claimed the only reason he would discuss his experience was due to thinking
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quote, it would be okay to discuss what he saw since it was now on TV, end quote.
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The word of Stringfield carries much weight for myself and others, and regarding Myron,
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Stringfield stated to in UFO crash retrievals the Inter-Sanctum Status Report 6 quote,
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after a number of lengthy interviews and getting his testimony on videotapes at his home
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by a medical friend and research associate, Dr. Brian Thompson.
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I feel convinced of Myron's sincerity, end quote.
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Stringfield's analysis of Kecksburg would remain extremely balanced.
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We can take for example Stringfield's discussion of an insider known as Uncle, who spoke to
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Stringfield through an intermediary, as noted in 1993 Status Report 3 amassing the evidence.
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Uncle told Stringfield he was on the right track with his research but cautioned of disinformation.
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Among Uncle statements were claims of understanding alien biological structures.
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Yet UFOs were of benign origin, and that the Kecksburg case involved a crashed spy plane,
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while the heavily contested Fort Riley and Johannesburg South Africa crash cases were
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All this is to say that Stringfield did in fact note opinions against Kecksburg but still
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pursued the case for well over a decade.
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Anyways back to Myron, as noted for the record by Stringfield, Myron stated he and his cousin
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J.S. worked for a family-owned shale and tile brick business in Ohio.
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Two or three days following the Kecksburg crash the company was contracted for a large
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order of special glazed bricks to write Patterson Air Force Base.
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The customer, the U.S. Navy, according to Myron, sent a representative to the business
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to select and inspect the bricks.
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Myron claimed receipts of this transaction were lost when the business was sold to new
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The specialty brick in question was a quote, double glazed engineered brick, end quote.
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Myron would later state the purpose of these bricks were to build a double thick, lead-line
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protective structure around the Kecksburg UFO to protect against radiation.
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The shipment of bricks was delivered at a designated gate where Myron and J.S. arrived in different
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Once outside Wright Pat, a two or three star general dressed in a blue uniform led the
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delivery men to a warehouse ahead.
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The destination for the bricks was a brick warehouse, 50 to 80 feet inside, accessible
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by a narrow blacktop driveway surrounded by rows of offices and a power plant.
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To quote Myron, nearby the building was a quote, army 35 foot long triaxle low boy that
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I later learned transport of the object.
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A tarp was still draped over its midsection, end quote.
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Myron noticed four or five frantic personnel outside the building equipped with white coveralls,
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visored headgear, rubbered gloves and boots, and a cult 45 pistol quote, who were running
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around like chickens with their heads cut off end quote.
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From Myron's point of view, the people inside the warehouse were solely concerned about the
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object inside the building.
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The personnel and delivery men unloaded the bricks by hand from trucks to pallets where
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Myron noticed the men were navy not air force by insignia on their uniforms.
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During a break from unloading the shipment, Myron somehow managed to approach the warehouse's
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door undetected and pure inside.
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He observed metal scaffolding around a large, strange object with men at work.
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Puzzling to Myron, parachute silks were suspended from the ceiling partially enshrouding the
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object lit by one flood light directed downward.
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The object was bell shaped, measuring an estimated 10 feet tall and less than 10 feet wide,
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appearing metallic with a dull copper or bronze color, but was charred or covered in a
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Finding pursuing this mystery any further irresistible, Myron asked one of the personnel about his
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use of an acetylene torch.
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Myron told Stringfield quote, probably thinking that my presence there meant I had a proper
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clearance, the man who was wearing a visor told me he was trying to get inside.
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Myron further explained to Stringfield the man told him all attempts to gain entry
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failed, whether torch, diamond headed drill bits or acid.
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This reminds me closely of the testimony of RB I covered in UFO whistleblowers 2, who
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stated he guarded a hamburger shaped saucer in 1963 for two weeks.
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Were a science team tried and failed with endless methods to gain entry to the craft.
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Myron then went on to explain quote, I was surprised when he told me that if there were
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bodies inside they might be too hot for the mortician to handle.
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Bodies are always a contentious and interesting aspect of UAP retrieval.
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We will address this point shortly.
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Myron was then startled by the voice of a guard who said forget what you've seen or
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will lock you up and throw away the keys.
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And we found the base and it took us from the back side of the right paterson air base
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all the way through the main part of the base out the other side down Maple Street to
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the old training center for World War II.
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When I walked into the facility I seen the bell shaped.
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It was set in Aeronc Stelt and it had a very big parachute or something draped down
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over the top with a light up underneath the parachute trying to cover this thing up so
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no one could see it and you could see a ladder leaning against the bell where they were
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trying to get into one of the openings.
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And the guard said that he wasn't allowed to be in here but now I've already seen everything
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So it didn't bother me when he ran me back out.
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The space ship looked like a large egg corn.
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It ran about 14 feet to the top and about 10 to 12 feet right at the bottom with a collar
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on it that has riding on the collar and it had a triangle on it and it looked like the
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triangle was put on there with a welder but sticking the welder against the metal to
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shape the riding and the riding was all around the bell shape of it and the black, the
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back, the bottom of the bell shape was completely black and around the top of the edges was
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smoked covered and the space thing looked like it was copper or bronze.
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Stringfield contacted Myron's cousin on October 3rd 1990.
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J.S.S. he'll be referred to was reluctant to get involved due to family reasons.
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He did confirm delivering glazed bricks to Wright Pat with Myron, remembered guards wearing
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protective clothing and a technician with a blowtorch.
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When Stringfield asked J.S. if he had seen the craft in the building, J.S. stated quote,
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I don't remember many details on that trip.
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My partner probably knows more because he was more inquisitive.
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Fast forward to 1991, Myron told Stringfield J.S. was willing to finally discuss his observations
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that fateful December day in 1965.
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On March 30th to April 1st 1991, Stringfield again interviewed J.S.
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J.S. told Stringfield a new story.
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He did in fact see the object the day before.
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He and Myron went to Wright Pat.
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He had made the trip solo with an initial delivery of bricks and clearly recalled an object
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shaped like the Liberty Bell sitting upright under a tarp aboard a low boy trailer.
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J.S. estimated the craft to be 8-10 feet tall and 8-10 feet wide.
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Quote, I didn't ask any questions but it probably arrived a short time before I did.
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J.S. discussed activity in the area, men wearing fatigue suits and there were armed guards.
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But he didn't see anyone carrying any sort of rifle or machine gun.
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Unlike the next day's trip, quote, there was nothing unusual at the entrance gate.
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I gave the guard my identification and showed him my bill of landing and was directed to
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the area for unloading near the big red brick building.
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Like most cases, the discussion of bodies is the most controversial aspect of Kexberg.
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In his appearance in the 2003 annual Crash Retrieval Conference proceedings,
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Stan Gordon discussed the subject of bodies present at the crash.
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To quote Stan, in more recent years I have heard rumors that are not widely known,
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that two small bodies were supposedly found at the impact location in 1965.
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I have generally accepted this as hearsay since there has never been any evidence to back up these
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claims. One such testimony actually came from Myron, the trucker we just discussed,
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who spoke to Gordon offering new details in 1998.
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In poor health, Myron agreed to meet with Gordon for a documentary Gordon was working on
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titled Kexberg, the Untold Story. Stan says it's the two we're discussing what Myron saw in
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1965, Myron suddenly mentioned something which caused Stan in the video production crew to look
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at the man with astonishment. Myron added to his previous testimony delivered to Gordon and
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Stringfield, stating when he peeked inside the warehouse, he observed the bell propped up by scaffolding,
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but he also saw a body lying on a work bench in the same room. Myron added this body was covered
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in a white sheet, measuring 4 to 5 feet tall. The only feature seen was lizard-like skin from a
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left hand sticking out from under the cover. I walked in the building and seen the bell shaped
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there and they was working on it. I also seen an object laying on the work bench over there and
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the work bench runs about 10 to 12 feet long and about 32 inches wide and about 4 or 3 foot,
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about 36 inches off the floor. I seen the left hand of everything that was in there,
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sticking out underneath the sterile white pad and he only had three fingers, was about 4 foot
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nine or 4 foot, 5 inches tall if it was standing up, but it looked like it weighed about 80 pounds.
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And it had dark green or brownish skin and it was just like a lizard.
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I have no doubt in my mind that the body laid on that table and the left hand
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every was sticking out underneath the white sterile pad that they had placed over him and he had
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the three index finger and his skin looked like lizard. I asked Myron why he waited so many years
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to divulge what he had seen in 1965. Well for the reason I never said anything before because
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Uncle Sam said if it were to ever leased out and they had to come and lock you up and throw
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the keys away or give you a bullet to satisfy you, no one will ever talk about it.
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Right now it's the time to tell it before something drastic happens and my son he's 24 years old
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and he said why are you going to do it now and I said well I may not live to the mar of the
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next day to tell it so I'll tell it all tonight and be done with it. The only thing I've got now is
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a bad heart and high blood pressure and sugar and I'm asking him once in a while and walking around
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taking nitrogen and on a reason I'm telling you now because I may not be here tomorrow.
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Why add this onto a story after nearly a decade after his initial testimony?
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Another witness Joel contacted Stan after hearing local news covering Leslie Keane and the CFI's
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attempts to pry free Kexberg documentation. Gordon would meet with Joel at his home in late 2002,
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seeing Joel go back and forth on whether or not to proceed with the interview in fear of getting
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in trouble for what he saw. Joel claimed on the day of the Kexberg crash he entered the woods to
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investigate the crash zone. His attention was drawn to a metal object to emanating bright clashes
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of colors like electricity. Joel hidden the woods to observe army and air force personnel,
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men in civilian clothing and men in suits and hats enter the crash area. Joel claimed to have
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observed an army general hop on top of the metallic object with a proponous hand similar to an
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officer's billy club. The general smacked the object and the tool flew out of his hands.
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Gordon noted at this time Joel's expression changed to a far more somber and uncomfortable tone.
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Joel stated soon after striking the object a hatch opened that swung from right to left at the
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front of the object, accompanied by a whirling hissing sound. Joel described a scene what looked
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like quote two fingers in an unusually long arm and quote inside the hatch before it closed again.
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The concept of bodies may be supported by the testimony of Bill Weaver I mentioned earlier in
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the video. Weaver a teenager observed men exit a large light-colored box truck in what he described
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as moon suits. The men carried a box-shaped device measuring four to five feet square, resting
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upon a stretcher with four handles. A little while later there was a large truck pulled in.
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A light-colored truck, a box van pipe. Out of it there was four guys come up. They had what we
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call moon suits at the time. They were white cover-on-a-type suits. They took a box out of there.
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Box, maybe four or five foot square. They carried in four handles and they carried that down to the
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object. The box just right after that there was an military man. They came over to the car and he
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told us to leave. I got into an argument. I told him I didn't, you know, I wanted to stay. I didn't
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want to leave. That point he told me that he would confiscate my car if I didn't.
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What's going on everybody? It's UAPGurb. Thank you so much for joining me today as we took a deep dive
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into the 1965 Kexberg, Pennsylvania UFO crash. Now, what would you say if I told you today we just
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started to scratch the surface of this case? Like I mentioned earlier in the Witnesses tab,
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there are so many witnesses who have more to add to this story. The reason I covered Bullibush,
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Romansky, Bedders, Weaver and so forth is because I think their testimonies offer the most complete
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picture and insight into the Kexberg story. There are other residents who talk about a military
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base being set up in a home near them, kind of like Romansky discussed in his interview on Montau
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Williams. There's other witnesses who talk more about the military presence and how it might
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have been obfuscated from a certain point of view when the military had reached up on Meteor Road
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and so forth. So there is just so much rich testimony to pursue. The Kexberg case has also seen so
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much coverage as we saw with Kexberg, the new Roswell and Kexberg, the untold story and Kexberg,
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the unsolved mysteries episode in Stan Gordon's 1993 documentary. There has been so much coverage on
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this case. That is why I tried to take a more focused approach on breaking down the crash,
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focusing on a select few witnesses focusing on the overall story and narrowing in on what happened
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to the craft the bell after the case, as well as focusing on Eric Walker and Lyndon B. Johnson.
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Now those of you familiar with the case will know there are a couple things I didn't discuss here.
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One of these was DeGlock, the alleged Nazi wonder weapon that was the exact same shape as the
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Kexberg bell, a similar shape to the Liberty bell. And that is because I would like to cover that
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and cover sort of Nick Cook's work in the hunt for a zero point and the Nazi connection to UAP in
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a whole another video. I also left out claims of Kexberg and affirmation of Kexberg from
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the witness Clifford Stone who testified in the 2001 NPC conference under Stephen Greer.
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I did this because Clifford Stone carries with him a little bit of controversy, so I want to
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analyze his claims and his merits before I put them into a Kexberg case in their own video.
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Now, what were your favorite parts of this investigation? For me, I must say I adore Jim Romansky.
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I think he's an incredible witness. Probably my favorite eyewitness of any case,
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the way in which he passionately talks about the case and any interview he has, especially
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Montel Williams. I really appreciate his demeanor. I think he offers valuable insights into this case
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and especially the Montel Williams show where he discusses kind of how his children faced issues with
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his experience at Kexberg. Also, I hope everybody enjoyed kind of the oblique look into the blue
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berets. I think that's one of the most crucial aspects of this investigation. They need to be
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investigated much more and I will continue to do so over the course of my videos. Investigate
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the incident for McGuire Dix as Leonard Stringfield's supposed blue beret insider has claimed.
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Try to focus in on the security police and air force police aspect of the blue berets
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and see if these guys might be used as a rapid reaction unit for domestic or even foreign crash
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retrieved efforts. Also, I've talked about it in many videos and he's a person I view as a
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linchpin to the whole UAP phenomena. Dr. Eric A. Walker. Of course, in this video we saw, we talked
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about this in the Sarbacher video but we went over his claims about saying he was in fact at the
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Kexberg case and that he did know about Majestic 12 and Robert Sarbacher was correct in terms of
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Dr. Eric A. Walker being a crucial member in UFO crash retrieval. But what was new to me here was
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the UARC, the University Affiliated Research Center in the ARL at Penn State University.
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I think there's some great connections there to explore and I will continue to do so as well.
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Also, I found the Lyndon B. Johnson connections with Dr. Eric Walker as well as Johnson's
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meeting scheduled the day after Kexberg fascinating. Now, if you look in the show notes and you can
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also find these PDFs posted in my discord if you don't want to go to the link of Grant Cameron's
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files but you will see all of the files I referenced because I really recommend following along.
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I just gave a brief sample of some of the content we went over in this video but there's pages and
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pages and pages of Grant Cameron covering this case. I also really recommend reading crash retrievals
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one through seven string fields work and seeing how he approached the Kexberg case over a span of
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10 years. It's really fascinating to see him kind of reference Uncle the alleged insider he talked
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through a intermediate intermediary with and just him interview P2 is now of course James Jim Romansky
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interview Myron and so forth speaking of Myron. I find this witness so interesting.
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Initially, I found it to be quite a red flag that Myron initially approached Stan Gordon in the
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late 80s and also spoke to Leonard Stringfield and it wasn't until 1992, 1993 for Stan Gordon's
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documentary that Myron touched on the topic of bodies when he had only commented on what a
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a person at the base had said to him before about it being a hot issue for autopsies.
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I think this case is a little different than something like the 1955 Del Rio case with Robert
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Willingham. As Robert Willingham initially stated he saw no such bodies and then changed his tone in
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about the Jeff Rents episode maybe in 2008-2012. I want to say around the time of the book by Noah
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Torres came out watching Myron was very interesting because that was a late pop-up in My research
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seen his interview in the 1993 Stan Gordon documentary. He of course as he claimed felt much
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fear and that's why he kind of omitted the topic of bodies before. Now there are a couple other
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witnesses who claim or are adjacent to body claims here such as Don Sebastian. I didn't cover him
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just because I didn't see how his story really really gelled with other witnesses because he
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described when he approached the scene and saw military men and was kind of hiding around observing
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the military operations he heard allowed scream from the forest. No other individual in the present
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area has also admitted hearing this scream so I left that out. What did you guys think of the
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Keckspert case? I want to know everybody's thoughts. This of course is such a famous case.
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Of course I think it's pretty self-evident this crash case has something very tangible,
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something that actually crashed in the woods in Keckspert and this was not a meteor as Blue Book
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claimed. I think the the discussion of the shaft discovered alongside the meteor where the Blue
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Book team from the 660 second radar squadron is extremely interesting. I also am unsure about the
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claims of Soviet capsule or American capsule. I think there's plenty of evidence and discussion
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to dispute the landing of a human-made space object. I was really excited to relay this bell
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shape to the infographics whistleblower and that reddit whistleblower post. All too often in crash
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cases we mainly hear about saucers or egg shapes so it's really cool to focus some attention on this
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kind of almost a liberty bell shaped craft with strange hyrogryphic hyroglyphic writings on it.
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I think it's such a unique type of craft especially as described by many of the witnesses just
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big enough to fit an individual maybe too. The off white, the off yellow bronze-ish color
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and the fact this alongside other craft descriptions seems like it was made out of a single piece of
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metal like pouring liquid metal into a cast. I love this case. Right now I lean towards this being a
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legitimate UAP retrieval case. I think there's a lot of evidence here, a lot more evidence that needs
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to be pursued. Of course the only thing missing from this case with all of the witness testimony
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with Johnson, with Walker, with all the witnesses after the fact is some official documents.
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And those of course are very scant in this case because apparently NASA lost them in 1987. But
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again let me know what you guys think. I want to appreciate every single person here watching this
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video. Thank you so much for giving me your time. I can't believe you guys will sit through
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about an hour and a half I think at this time video. Please remember to leave a like and
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think the channel is worth. We got big things coming for the channel of course regular viewers will
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know that we're doing about one live a week. I want to start doing some more interviews on the
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channel too. I know right now that interviews I've had usually take three weeks or so to conjure
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up because there's so much editing involved. I do want to do some pure interviews as well but of
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course I'll be in the lab working on my my interview skills because I can get very tripped up with
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my words as you all know but thank you so much for watching guys I will catch everybody on the next
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