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I did get a chance to look inside the craft on only one occasion and this was important
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because where the reactor sat might have been critical to how it operated since everything
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operates without any interconnections so the placement of components might be critical.
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So they allowed me to go inside and look at it.
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Again, I forgot where the hell I am.
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So you're going into this craft and what are you thinking when you're inside of it?
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What are you seeing?
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It's a very ominous feeling because everything is one color.
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It's like a dark pewter color and there are no right angles anywhere.
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It's as if somebody took a model out of wax and then heated it just for a short time
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so everything melted.
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Everything looks like it's fused together.
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Everything is a radius of curvature or two items meet.
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It's a really weird looking thing but there was almost nothing other than a small foldable
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hatch way that looked recognizable.
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Everything was really unwirldy to pick on it, waited to describe it.
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So you get inside this thing and it's designed for something that's much smaller than a human
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Yeah, you can't really stand up till you get to the very center of it.
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And what do you think this was designed for?
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I'd say something close to half my height.
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So these little three foot tallish creatures?
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Yeah and the seats were small too.
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I mean obviously it was made for something small.
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But there's nothing else in there.
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There's just seats, the reactor and some of the sub components.
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There's no control panels, there's no bathroom, there's no decorative components or artwork
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or anything that you would recognize or trim.
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I mean it's just a very bare bones thing.
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You're not seeing any screens?
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Well there are archways around it, that are part of the superstructure and that one of
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the archways can become transparent.
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When I was in there there was another group working on one of the archways and you could
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call that a screen more or less.
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So through that archway it would maintain the solidity, the solid, whatever metal it was.
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But you could see through it.
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Yeah it just became transparent.
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I saw that happen once or twice before I left.
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Did you ask any questions about what the fuck?
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No, there's no asking questions.
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But when you watch something become transparent and you realize it's still there but you could
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Yeah I mean no that's not that impressive.
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We do have some liquid crystal materials that are like that.
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You know they have seen that in the bathroom.
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Yeah they call it smart glass.
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This is just and I don't know if the craft is made of an advanced metal or a ceramic.
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It was cold to the touch.
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So I would lean more towards the metal.
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And when you see this craft and you're inside, was there any indication that there was
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an area that they would use to control it, to pilot?
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Was there a pilot seat?
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There were three seats.
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The reactor was in the dead center of it and then equidistant around there were three
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There was a large...
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They're not consoles.
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They're a large rectangular objects.
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Also spaced equidistant around the center.
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There's nothing on them.
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Everything is the same color.
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This is a different shape.
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And directly underneath them.
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There's three levels in the craft.
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The main level is what we're talking about.
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Directly under that.
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Those are the gravity amplifiers.
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The big rectangular objects.
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Underneath them are the gravity of midders that look like...
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Or like a better word a trash can hanging on a pipe.
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And then the top layer...
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This is just my personal belief.
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I think that has to do with a navigation or their version of a computer with some planer
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panels, sensor panels around the craft that we would call port holes, but they're not
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They're just black areas.
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And I think that just determines its position and space.
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I physically was in the center section and I stuck my torso in the bottom section and
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hung upside down so I could see how the gravity amplifiers were positioned.
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What is the roughly the size of this thing?
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I don't remember from being there, but after all this stuff was over, I had John Andrews
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a guy from the tester's model corporation.
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And we sat down and tried to figure out from what I saw and known sizes of things.
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And we came up with 52 feet in diameter.
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I think that's always small.
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Yeah, so I think that's a fair reason in a model guess.
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Now you said there's nine of them and you got a brief glimpse at the other ones.
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How are they different?
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Oh, they looked completely different.
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One looked like a...
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I called a Jell-O mold and it looked like a classic Jell-O mold with the rippled sides
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One was a very flat disk.
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You know, like a straw hat or something like that.
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That was sitting up on its edge and the thin part of it had...
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It looked like a projectile had been fired through the edge of it.
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So I don't know if they were attempting to see if the metal could be penetrated or if
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Or if that's where the thing came from, maybe it was shot down.
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But that was the only one where I saw there was, you know, actual physical damage to it.
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And that one was roughly the same size?
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They were kind of too far away to tell.
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There were several teams that were working on the propulsion systems.
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So there was different teams that were working on these different aircrafts?
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I could only assume.
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