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Yeah, I wonder how many more stories there are like that of retrieving stuff under the oceans,
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you know, because you don't really hear about that kind of stuff.
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No, there's 1967 Shag Harbor, of course, which occurred in Canada.
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But here's a real treat.
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In 1972, there was an encounter of a man who worked as a gunnery instructor at Great Lakes
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Naval Station near Chicago.
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This guy, I think he went by the pseudonym R.K., related his story to Leonard Stringfield.
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Leonard Stringfield is one of the greatest UFO crash retrieval investigators of all time,
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wrote, status reports one through seven on UFO crash retrievals.
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R.K. claimed that in 72 at the Great Lakes Naval Station in Chicago,
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he was tasked to kind of deliver orders, deliver a message to, you know, a commanding officer.
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So as he goes to deliver to the commanding officer, he passes into a Quonset style hut on the premises.
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And in there is a large metallic teardrop shaped craft.
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No visible means of propulsion.
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Looks like a teardrop.
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Looks like a perfect mix between a teardrop and an egg.
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Very smooth, one color and so forth.
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But here's what's interesting.
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He then meets a guy that was stationed in San Diego in the Navy.
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And this Navy guy said that he knew about that craft that was brought down
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and that it was brought down by a naval destroyer
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and recovered by the Glomar Explorer north of Hawaii in 1972.
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There's so much ocean, man.
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It would be impossible to explore all that.
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I think we've explored more of the moon than we have of our own ocean floors.
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And if you look at it, we were talking about this with Richard Dolan, too.
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Like, you can literally turn the globe.
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If you look at the Pacific Ocean, you can see there's no fucking land.
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It covers a more huge, a massive amount of this earth is ocean.
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So what's interesting about the creation of NERU,
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the deep submergent systems project and all this in 1964,
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it seems like Sand Dollar had existed previously
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with an itemized inventory of everything that existed on the seafloor
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of national security interest.
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But until Craven created the DSSP following Sand Dollar
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and then NERU was created,
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there was no way the Navy could retrieve these items.
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So it seemed like the U.S. Navy had a large itemized inventory
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of all of these objects on the seafloor.
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But until Craven drastically increased the depths
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at which the Navy could conduct engineering operations
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and retrieval operations, those just sat there.
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Now, what do you know about that base in the Bahamas
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that me and Jesse was talking about?
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Is that thing still operational?
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Are they still doing work there?
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I'm not sure, actually.
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But that brings up the point of like underwater bases, right?
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There's a great author.
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His name's Richard Sauter.
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He has a book called Underground and Undersea Bases
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where he talks about possible undersea bases worldwide,
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which is really interesting.
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And of course, it's very likely that there are like undersea neurobases
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for submarine refueling and such.
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But I mean, the concept of undersea bases is interesting
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because already underground bases is incredibly interesting.
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The question about undersea bases is how do you power them?
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The logistics sound like a nightmare.
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At least for undersea.
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It seems like optimal though, right?
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For cooling, especially if you have some sort of high temperature reactor.
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I mean, in the 1960s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
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published a bunch of deep basing studies
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on where to place deep underground military bases
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throughout the continental United States,
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but also published a ton of papers such as like self-contained nuclear reactors
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to power stiffs, subterranean facilities and so forth.
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That's one of the things that Catherine was saying
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that a lot of the missing money she thinks has been going to funding
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these constructions of these underground bases.
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That's, I think, one of the most interesting topics in this subject
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because, you know, I've done a project on directly relating those to UFO programs
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and craft and materials being stored underground.
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And I have a friend who was former Army Public Affairs.
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This was about 2010 to 2013 area.
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And he relayed to me that he traveled between a stiff,
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a sub-trading facility, as they call them,
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under Fort Bliss, Texas, and White Sands to Missile Range.
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And he traveled between these locations via train.
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And he said that the train went so fast,
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it reminded him of his fear of flying.
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Because a lot of people will look at the kind of underground bases,
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systems, and connective tunnels and scoff at a little bit
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because it's a logistic and engineering nightmare, right?
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But, you know, I digress.
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Back in the 1970s, the RAND Corporation,
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which is known as a federally funded research and development center, FFRDC,
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one of the employees, high up scientists of the RAND Corporation,
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published something called the VHST, the Very High Speed Transit System,
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which was a massive underground train system that would connect New York to Los Angeles
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and basically be a massive underground tunnel system.
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And of course, if these tunnel systems exist,
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I think it's highly likely we got some of that technology and ideas from the Nazis.
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You know, before the end of World War II,
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there was a system called the Rohrbahn by some German scientists,
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which was a pneumatic train system to exist under Germany
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and to connect Berlin to France or Paris
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and a network of underground train systems to go at incredible speeds.
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But here's what's not a concept that's really interesting.
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So Xavier Dorsch was head of the TOT organization in Nazi Germany.
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The TOT organization had created the Autobahn,
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you know, that famous German highway with endless speeds.
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And at this time, Hans Kammler and various really nasty Nazi scientists
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were using underground locations for aircraft manufacturing and so forth for contractors,
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but as well as continuity of government sites,
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such as the Regan Wormlogger in Poland and Ordruf,
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which are these really, really crazy advanced underground locations
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that I think it was Ordruf even had like its own underground rail system connecting it.
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It was self-contained.
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And so Xavier Dorsch was one of these whiz kid engineers for the TOT organization,
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which is similar to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
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In 1947, with Operation Paperclip,
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where the U.S. brought over a bunch of Nazi scientists,
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there was one report from Air Material Command
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that requested Xavier Dorsch specifically,
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as well as three other German Nazi technicians,
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for underground plant construction.
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So I think immediately after post-World War II
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is when underground facilities or stiffs immediately began construction
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because we plucked some of the Nazis' best and brightest
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who had created such intricate structures under Germany to come work for us.
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That's fucking bizarre, man.
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And if that stuff does exist,
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if they are spending money on all this crazy stuff
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and they have all these secret programs to recover crafts
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and to build underground highways and bunkers,
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that would explain where a lot of that money is going
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that Catherine Fitz was talking about, those trillions of dollars.
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It's not cheap, right?
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No, it's definitely not cheap.
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And the other question is, who's in charge of it?
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Who has control over all of it?
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You know, analyzing the structure of the supposed UFO legacy programs
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is so difficult to track, right?
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You know, if there are programs,
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which of course I believe very strongly there are,
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that there are DOD, contractor, FFRDC,
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UARC, University-affiliated Research Center programs
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that deal with the exploitation, recovery,
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and reverse engineering of non-human technologies.
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How are these programs structured?
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What sort of communication is done across the programs?
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How are the intelligence communities involved?
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And at the top of this, who is pulling the strings?
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Because it's not like this is an above-board Air Force project,
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above-board Navy project, not like a CIA project.
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All of this is inherently born within SAPs and USAPs,
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unacknowledged special access programs, sorry,
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which Congress and even the executive branch,
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to a certain degree, doesn't need to be read in.
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You have to have a need to know to access these things.
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Yeah, that's what Stephen Greer was explaining to me.
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He was like, he was explaining to me how like these top,
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top joint chiefs of staff people can't even get access to some of this stuff.
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And that's, and the way he was describing it to me is like,
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imagine if Lockheed or one of these companies like this
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got so much technology that advanced so much
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after getting all this black budget
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that they've basically gone off the rails so far
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to where they have more power than like every foreign and domestic military combined
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to where they're kind of like a,
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like a, a breakaway military superpower
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that like doesn't have to answer to anybody.
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If like Catherine Austin Fitt says,
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if there is a, some sort of segment existing within the U S military intelligence
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that has a secret space program,
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they are, have the asymmetric advantage in every single warfighter capability.
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If somebody has ARV alien reproduction vehicles,
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which I believe they do, of course,
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they have a tremendous amount of advantages over any traditional human military.
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