Transcript: "New Alien PROOF They are Hiding From Us!": UFOs & Alien Conspiracy Theories | Dr. Greer (E064)

The fact that matter is the extraterrestrial presence has been saved in our bacon for about 80 years, preventing nuclear war and even space objects from striking the earth.

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But we have a group of people who have technologies that are targeting those ET objects who are imperiling the whole planet.

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One of the world's foremost authorities on the subject of UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence and exotic technologies.

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Dr. Steven Rear.

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Now this is something I don't talk about much. When I can tell you that these extraterrestrial civilizations plural, there are dozens of them.

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None of them are hostile, but boy are they concerned about our hostility.

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Founder of the disclosure project, Steven focuses on revealing classified information about UFOs and extraterrestrial life.

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They have the ability to pretty much write about four to six billion people.

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And I think that's their intention. And I think that's not for a voice broken from the satellite and said,

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Dr. Rear changed the direction of this conversation now.

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We're going to dump this show wide. I'm going to tell the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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That gets you down.

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Did you think there was an ancient civilization that also lasted it, arguably, built the pyramids?

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Well, you know, what's up guys and welcome back to First Things Thursday.

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We have a special guest today, Dr. Steven Greer. Thank you very much for coming on.

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I appreciate you having me on and looking forward to this interview.

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It's 10pm and Dubai is quite late, but these are exactly the type of conversations which I like to have late at night.

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So I think, first of all, I'm happy to see that you are still alive and doing well.

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No, yes. Well, after the last year, that's something of a miracle and I know that self.

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But I am, you know, I was severely injured last October and but I'm back doing everything.

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Hiking in the Alps last month and back in the gym doing my full weights and like pressing 700,

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which for no guys are right. So I'm back.

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I like working out. I work out about six, eight hours a week.

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That's good stuff. Do you find that with obviously the reach that you've had on some of the

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podcasts you've been on with Patrick Beck-David and some of the other ones? Has there been a lot more

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people getting in touch with you and reaching out to you? Well, it's always been like that in the

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last few years. I mean, certainly since the original disclosure project in 2001, when we've

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launched this whole effort, it's sort of been a steady thing. Now, what's I think what's actually

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accelerating the last two years or the number of military defectors coming forward who are set up

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a quote unquote, their words not mine with the secrecy and are coming forward as both whistle blowers

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but also as operative. So there's a whole team of of senior military guys who are special forces

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mainly working in a SAP, a special access project who are preparing to, you know, move forward

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on all these illegal projects and get them corrected. So we're hoping that follows through. I

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mean, the side show is the United States Congress and White House. The real action is happening

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with those kind of people who have the courage to correct this problem, which is a massive constitutional

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crisis as well as a security risk to the whole world. If most people don't want to know how dangerous

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this whole issue is, and I get cut off a lot even by people in the Congress, they said we don't

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hear anymore about that. But the fact that matter is, you know, the extraterrestrial presence has

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been saving our bacon for about 80 years, preventing nuclear war and even space objects from striking

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the earth. But we have a group of people who have technologies that are targeting those objects,

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the ET objects, who are imperiling the whole planet. So it's a very complicated, nuanced problem.

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And it's the opposite of how it's portrayed in the media and in the corporate media and in the,

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internet search algorithms from Google and elsewhere. So I think it's a very big issue.

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And the people who are on the inside, let's just say the people who are operational now today

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in these black projects that are being run illegally. But these are guys who got pulled in, you know,

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me, they were 18, 20, green berets, special forces, delta force guys. They now realize that they're

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in a system that is completely corrupt and they're wanting to be, have themselves liberated from it.

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You know, I had a very poignant story. It got it last year. I was being driven around in the

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Southern California area in a armored vehicle. It looked like a Denali, but it's armored. And,

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you know, the guy who dropped me off at my place, he, you know, he was in that system and he said,

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thank you for what you're doing for those of us stuck on the other side. And he was for

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Ferranda. He and all the brothers who were in these programs who some of them in their 30 years now,

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right, 25, 30 years. And they know now that it's a completely dangerous and corrupt illegal

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operation, but they're in it. So, you know, how do you, who, how do you build the bridge to

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liberate these guys? And with it, the technologies that would save the biosphere, you know, right?

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Well, that's, although, you know, I want to talk about this in the Middle East, but we haven't

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needed oil for decades. So, I mean, all that's going to go the way of all flesh is a huge change

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coming. And it's got to come very quickly now, given the state of the world.

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With the people that have come forward, these ex-military personnel, what I've never really understood

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is how they can say certain things, but then when asked and pressed to elaborate further,

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they say, oh, I can't talk about that specifically. Like, why is it that they can talk about

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certain things, but then there's other things that they can't talk about?

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Well, I can't speak to the ones that you're, I'd have to know who, about whom you're speaking,

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okay? Those, the people who say that, if you look at the hearings last year,

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in Congress that were just these brief events, people like Mr. Brush and others, they don't

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understand that they can talk about anything related to this subject because the subject has

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been declared an unconstitutional operation. Opryory, there are no non-disclosure agreements

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or national security oaths that pertain to it. That's the legal foundation of the whole disclosure

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project, which I actually started in 1993 when I was asked to brief the director of the CIA. It

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was called Operation Starlight at that time, and it was private. I was a metatronma doctor, and I was

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flown up from North Carolina to brief Mr. Clinton's CIA director, and with any few months of him

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being elected or sworn in. And so what we decided was once we did, once we could absolutely prove

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that the key people in our government's here as well as United Kingdom and some other countries,

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Canada, were being lied to or denied access, or even threatened for looking into it.

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At that point, we, and our constitutional team, lawyers, said these are illegal projects. Opryory,

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you can enforce the National Security Act on it because you can enforce the law around an

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operation that's by definition illegal, not being overseen properly by either the president or

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the Congress. So at that point, we have told every witness of ours, the whistleblowers, I have

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understand this, that they can talk about anything. What they filter on, this is important distinction,

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is information that isn't related specifically to this issue that may be associated, that is still

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top secret, and that would be covered under a non-disclosure agreement. So this gets in the

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devils in the details, as always, which people find boring, but I think it's important for people

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to understand this. The other part of it is that fear. So some people, even on my team, they will

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talk about a certain amount of information, and then they'll self-sensor, not because they can't

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talk about it, but because they're sort of programmed not to, and they're afraid of consequences for

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them or their family. So it's a retribution. The other self-sensory thing, and I'm dealing with

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this a lot with Congress, the senior folks who are right hand to the Senate Intelligence Committee

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and people like that, they can only tell their bosses, meaning the chair and co-chair of these

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kind of committees, so much before they kind of lose them. One of the problems is, it's a little

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bit like, what is that movie, a few good men, when I was checking, of course, these ass, you know,

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Tom Frucis, I just want to know the truth, because you can't handle the truth in those screens,

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anything like that. It's a little bit like that, because if you tell some of these guys who are just,

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they're basically, you know, still have training wills on learning about this issue, and these are

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senior members of the United States Senate and House, you tell them too much, they just shut down,

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or they become afraid. So, you know, we have to be understanding the human limitations of

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understanding this, and part of it, part of my job is to keep pushing that envelope without breaking

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it. It's hard, because I'm holding information and intelligence on this, it goes back 34 years,

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now that I've been gathering, 762 whistleblowers that I've debriefed with all their information.

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So, what, how much do you say to whom? And I know that this sort of self-sensoryn happens with

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these witnesses, like, I know that Mr. Grusch was asked about, you know, how people have been killed,

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because I've the Congressman asked that question, I had previously briefed and assured,

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I might know people who have been, and Grusch says, why can't I talk about that, we have to be in a

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skiff, which is a secure, compartmented information facility, where top secret information is,

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that's not true, he could have talked about it, and he should have, but he's getting some very

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bad advice by some attorneys right now, but who don't understand the bigger picture, I mean,

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you really have to go back and unpack this for a long time, but you also have to have what I call

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inverse witnesses. Enverse witnesses are the ones who should know about this, who don't.

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They're more important than the ones who know about it, because that's how you prove the

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operations illegal. I mean, if you're the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency or CIA,

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or the President, or chairs of these key committees, and you're not told anything, or you're threatened

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when you inquire, that is proof that the operation is illegal, and that then liberates everyone

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who wants to talk about this, but you have to have that, you have to have that fund of knowledge,

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and the proof, and I have it in my archive, you know, here are the meetings that have this person

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was denied access. Everyone in the world now knows that Admiral Wilson, who is head of intelligence,

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joined staff, we briefed at the Pentagon, and then he was threatened and was shut down, he'd

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not be standing in his high position to be the main source of intelligence for the whole joint

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sheets of staff, right? I mean, you know, and he was told, you don't have a need to know,

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and this is the guy in charge of intelligence for the joint sheets of staff. So when you can prove

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this, then you make this conclusion, if you don't know what I just said, you're still wondering,

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you know, what the landscape is here. So I think for that reason, a lot of those whistleblowers

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censor themselves because they are still drinking the false narrative and the coup-laid

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of their training under national security provisions and what are called op-sex operation

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security. You know, here's what you can say, here's what you can't, but you have to understand

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this deeper context to be able to then realize what you can and cannot say.

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When do you think this is an answer of so apologize, but it's a little good stuff.

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When did you think this all started? When did it begin?

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Well, I mean, I think the secrecy on this probably goes back to the early 20th century.

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You know, it's funny when Mr. Trump was present and I put in his briefing document,

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the very first image was a dissection of a ET on a slab with some until all the military people

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there with some doctors from 1922 to 28 is when it's been dated. And we got this from a very

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interesting series of events. So I believe that there has been some degree of classification

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on this going back to the late 1800s, early 1900s, but the big action started obviously

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once we detonated the first atomic bomb and the ET's realized that we were an existential threat

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to life on Earth as well as potentially to them. That's when the modern era started.

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The whole thing went off the rails in terms of supervision. And about 1956 to 1960, when Eisenhower

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was shoved aside. So President Eisenhower, you know, the reason he gave that famous speech when

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he left office, in large-purpose this issue, although he didn't acknowledge it, he said, you know,

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the where the military industrial complex. And a lot of people were going, well, this is a two-term

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Republican president who at five-star respect then. And up World War II, hero, why would he be

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saying this about the military industrial complex when his whole career has been military, right?

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Is because he saw the power that the corporate end of this. Let's call it the fascistic,

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corporate, moneyed interest did that take over the interests of the people and the United States

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government where he was being pushed aside and he was being denied access. And if you don't take

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my word for this, we have a witness who is an Army communication specialist, or Army signal

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corps used to be called in the White House, who knew Eisenhower and Eisenhower directly told him,

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this is what had happened to him. And this was in 59 and 60. So we know that somewhere between

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the mid-50s and 60s, Eisenhower, lost control of these programs, they went deep black,

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illegal, and they have never been under proper supervision since. So you can track it. I've been

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able to track it all the way back almost what's that? 65 to 70 years.

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It was this was around about when they were testing atomic bombs and around about the same

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time this was when there was UFOs crash landing in Roswell. Now this is one thing which I was always

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curious about. I'm just a correction here. You don't go through interstellar space and can't

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navigate an electrical storm in Roswell, New Mexico. My friends at her pilots can navigate an

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electrical storm in New Mexico. In F18 or Airbus 321, they were downed. These objects were down,

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they were ET craft that were struck with a type of electromagnetic weapon or one in the mid-delete

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forties and they were developed based on the work that Tesla had done, scalar

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electromagnetic systems and what they learned about EMPs, electromagnetic pulses they go out when

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you're definitely an atomic bomb. Those got weaponized. The early ones were not very accurate

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but they were good enough to hit the ones that downed in New Mexico in the forties. They've

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since become extraordinarily advanced. I mean we're talking dozens of generations of refinement

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so much so they can be portable to size of this computer and be put on a vehicle and strike an

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object at a distance. So they're illegal. I mean the nuclear nonproliferation treaty clearly

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forbids electromagnetic pulse weapons because of their how dangerous they are. And they're a

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component of the nuclear blast but it's basically you're taking out without the nuclear blast.

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You're taking out that EMP aspect and then weaponizing it. That's what's happened and that's

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how they're targeting the ET craft and downing them. So they don't just accidentally crash. I don't

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know if any of that have been crashed because of a malfunction. I think they've come down because

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we're targeting them. And I think at this point it's well over a thousand of them, probably two thousand.

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And you believe the reason behind this targeting them was to investigate and try and reverse

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engineer the technology they have? Well I think there are two big reasons. One,

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you know I had a naval intelligence guy approach me once back in the probably mid-90s and

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I was given some presentation. He pulled me aside and he said he says he had been present when we

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used those weapons and targeted these objects. And by the way our archive that we've released has

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122 of these downed cases. Many of them with direct witness testimony.

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And that's an archive for anyone who's listening to see. It's a disclosure project,

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Intelligent's Archive, dpiarchive.com. But what I learned from this was that they not only

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wanted to get the technology and reverse engineer and study it, they didn't want the ET to be known

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too much by the public until they could control it and control the narrative attached to it.

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And then thirdly the ET's explicitly wanted us to disarm and stop using those weapons

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because they're guided systems and their propulsion systems, their physics are disrupted when an

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EMP goes out that has a scalar component. Now what most people don't know and we have a GE

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physicist on our team. I think it's six PhDs and his specialty is this area. And he works for

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General Electric and he knows that when you detonate, have an EMP embedded in it is called a

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scalar signal. It goes faster in the speed of light, right? It's co-subscaler signal. A normal

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electromagnetic wave or pulse is still a waveform like this, right? Propocating through the vacuum

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at 186,000 miles per second. A scalar is, they call it longitudinal sometimes, is a point.

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The energy that goes out in a straight line. And there you have a problem because now you're going

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beyond the speed of light and you're crossing into the area of communications and physics

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dealing with extraterrestrial vehicles systems. And that's another reason. So they wanted us to stop

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using those weapons. Our military guys, they like the hell we are, we're going to be in a nuclear

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arms race with the Soviet Union and so it's gone. All right, so now we have what?

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78 years of this madness. So the opposite other issue is that the ET's absolutely wanted us to

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stop using those. And if you look at the case files we have, there is a preponderance of these

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ET objects surveilling and going over all our nuclear facilities, not just nuclear bombs,

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but nuclear processing facilities, even nuclear energy facilities, they know how dangerous it is.

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And they know that host civilizations have vanished on other planets, frankly, because of these.

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And so that is a prevailing interest on their part. So again, I know you're going to ask a question,

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I'm going to unpack it a little more complicated, but because it is, there's a very deep story here,

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but there's also a deep science behind it. So why were they obviously these civilizations,

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in my opinion, have been observing this planet for millennia? Why was this huge modern era opened up,

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where there have been so many millions of sightings and events? It's because of our

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development of these weapons of mass destruction, where we're now a threat to our life on Earth,

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but potentially going out into space, and this is the other problem, the 50s coincided with our

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early development of our space program. Sputnik was in 57, and the Soviets then

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we had the Apollo mission that my uncle worked on, my uncle helped design the lunar module,

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it landed on the moon with no arm strong. So what you realize is that put these two things together

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and look through the eyes of the ET's, where a bunch of rampaging monkeys blow on each other up,

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right? We've had all these world wars, the fighting goes on to this day. Now we have weapons that

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can destroy a whole world, but now we're trying to go out into space where we could be a threat to them,

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right? And their plan is, because remember if you're dealing with something beyond the speed of light,

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and you develop it well enough, you could target a distant planet out of our solar system and

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potentially strike it without going there with these kind of weapons. Now this is something I don't

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talk about much, but I can tell you that these extraterrestrial civilizations plural, or there are

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dozens of them. None of them are hostile, but boy, are they concerned about our hostility,

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because here's the problem. Our technology has exceeded our social and spiritual development.

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I mean, that's a problem. This is how a civilization goes poof, because we're still very primitive

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socially. We're still killing each other. Our civilization is built on greed and avarice and

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control and domination and destruction and war. Most of it. Until we get over that hump,

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which is the biggest challenge, I think, is the social and spiritual crisis, not religious spiritual,

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which I make a distinction on that. I think there's an inverse relationship, usually, between

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religiosity and spirituality. Usually the more religiously fanatical someone is the less

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spiritually are, but mostly. But some social commentary there that'll get me some enemies. But

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I just think that who cares? But I think that this is the truth is that these civilizations from

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other star systems are observing this, but they're sort of appalled. And the longer these sort of

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covert programs develop these technologies, the other problem I find with this whole subject,

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is everyone's always fighting the last war, as they say. They're looking in the rear view mirror.

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And they don't look at right now or looking forward, because right now is not 1947. Right now is

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not 1977. I mean, the technological curve, when you have trillions of dollars, and I'm not

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kidding, trillions of dollars that are going into covert engineering and research and development

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at Ionkel's old company, North of Brumman, Lockheed, Raytheon, East Systems, EG&G, all these big

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SAIC, Booz Allen Hamilton. What happens is that in those compartment, it's super secret operations,

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they recruit the smartest, most amazing physicist and engineers and brains possible. And they're paid

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well, and they're protected. And your brilliant people are not at Harvard and MIT, I tell people,

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they're in these programs, because they're picked out of high school or early in college and

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they're pulled in. And with that kind of brain power, and you're having your possession,

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the material, the extra-struster vehicles and devices and systems, they're going to be big

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breakthroughs. And now we have 80 years, almost, of that kind of big breakthrough research and

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development. And it doesn't stand still, anyone who knows technological development, look at

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me, look at our own internet and things. It starts out kind of like this and then it goes nonlinear,

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it goes boom, right? So that's the problem. But it's a development technologically with no

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in mind in the store, from the people or the never mind the press, which is utterly corrupt, or the

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government. And it mainly is close to the people in the United States government, 99.9, whatever

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percent, don't know anything about this. And that's on purpose. So everyone asks me, why is the

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government hiding this? I said, which government? Who's government? The government that we elect

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an appoint, they don't know anything for the most part, a few do. And those are corrupt interests

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that we have, know who they are and they're being handed over to a law enforcement team, frankly,

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even as we speak this week. So we're about ready. If it's not the government, then it's what,

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like some sort of mafia organization. Well, it's a hybrid of a covert, illegal government

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interest operations and corporate. So think of a hybridized entity. But I think the center of power

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is clearly not in the constitutional elected officials and appointed officials. I think if you

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were to have a frank conversation with any president, they want to admit this. No one wants to

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admit they're the emperor that has no clothes, right? But if you were to have a frank conversation,

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they go for the same thing with these senior senators and members of congressman,

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whether they they should know they don't know and they're not lying. They're not covering it up.

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Now there are a few members of the Congress who are read into this and who are problematic

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and who, for example, were instrumental in killing the Senate bill last year that came out that

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would have given amnesty and protection to whistleblowers coming forward. And that was all neutralized

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by the House reconciliation between the Senate. And we know who those devils were who killed that.

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And we run them through the system and we know who's paying for them. Where they get their money

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and who has them in their pocket. So the fact that they are colluding with the corrupt

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enterprise and committing treason against the United States government means that they could

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be tried for treason. I'm saying this bluntly. So this is serious stuff. And I think the people

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who now come forward beyond the whistleblowers and the defectors or the people who are in the

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government with enough authority to do something about this who are now authorizing,

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extending immunity to people. And this is outside the Congress. This is people in, I can't say

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what agencies or whatever, but who now realized that there's a enormous problem that's

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existential threat to the world. And so they're devoted to getting this resolved. And these

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are people who they're not afraid of taking a boat. I mean, these are guys who've been on

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front line special forces, you know, guys. And I know them very well and they're serious. And

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that's why I'm very encouraged. I know it sounds scary to the public, maybe listening. But I'm

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actually very encouraged that there's a band of guys and operational programs that are legal,

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that are operating to get all of this under control as soon as they can. It's complicated.

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You know, part of it is the David and Goliath problem. Right? I mean, you're the head of,

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I don't say where, your special operations, wherever. And you have jets, you have helicopters,

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and you have guns, and you have tanks, and you have whatever. Right. The people who you're needing to

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put in check have technologies that are thousands of years more advanced based on studying

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extraterrestrial vehicles. And so they have portable EMP and scalar weapons that can make your

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helicopters and jets fall right out of the sky or freeze your entire group of armed vehicles.

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So I'm trying to advise them on how you work around that. How do you, and the best way to work

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around that? And this is why I'm on your show. And we'll let's see how far we can take this

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environmentally is that people who are operational in these bases and in these programs.

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Most of the guys who are their op-sex guys, right, they're security people, they're younger guys,

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they've been pulled in and cleared, they do yes sir, they do as they're told, and they don't know

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they're in a criminal operation. So one of the things I've been asked to do by these

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guys who are trying to move forward is them because they can't be identified publicly. I'm already

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out in the public, so I'm exposed is to say to the guys and let it get back channeled to anyone

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watching your show or packet David or whoever's, you know, Sean Ryan show, whoever it is,

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here's what we're going to do if law enforcement and legally constitution entity shows up at your

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facility, put your weapon down. And if you don't, you're colluding with a illegal

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treasonous operation and you could therefore be arrested but also prosecuted for treason.

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So that message for being very clear about so that what we're hoping happens when this group

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stands up and rolls or moves that there won't be any resistance. It'd be like the orange

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revolutions in Eastern Europe and stuff where it just happened without any kinetic, violent

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sequela or outcomes. So that's what we're aiming for is a peaceful transfer of these operations

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back under constitutional control and then a careful release of select technologies, particularly

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energy generation technologies that would completely save the biosphere and in 20 years, you know,

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would end all poverty on the planet. I mean, we have these technologies. The chairman, the former

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chairman of a Fortune 50 corporation who is trying to defect, but he said his whole family threatened.

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Told us that what's the progress on that since you last spoke about it, has there been any further

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progress in developments on that? No, because he's waiting to see which sacrificial lambs get taken

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out. He doesn't want to be that one, right? He's waiting to see if the security programs that are

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being put in place are adequate. So I'm sort of the canary in the mind shaft. There are some other

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canaries in the mind shaft. Look, I mean, it's all about what risk you're willing to take. And I

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can tell you this man was approached right after he reached out to us and was told they will kill

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you and all your grandchildren and children very bluntly. And by the way, there's a head of state

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in Europe I've learned about recently had the same thing happen. So this is serious stuff. And

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you know, the question is how much of those guys trust that the protective capabilities of

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this special access project is really able to protect them, right? And their whole extended family.

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And this is a complicated problem because you're dealing with thugs. I've been dealing with these

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thugs since the early 90s, you know, but we understand how they operate what their mindset is. And

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when I say thugs, you know, it's funny when I first with about three years ago, senior guy,

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Senate Intelligence Committee, who was tasked with looking into this on behalf of the chair and

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co chair of the committee, when I met with him the first time in the skiff. If for the Senate, he said

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to me, well, why does why don't people just come forward and I explained about this thuggery?

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And he said, really? I said, oh, yeah. And then he, we leave the skiff. He goes out to his

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home in suburban Virginia and they deploy two unmarked helicopters over his house,

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staring down at him with his four children in the house with the whole house shaking.

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And he says, wow, these are thugs. I said, yes, sir, I told you they're thugs. So that is a true

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story. So I mean, imagine this is guy who knows nothing who's just trying to inquire about this on

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behalf of one of the key oversight committees in the whole United States government. And this happens

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to him right away. And to this day, he continues to be harassed. So then all kinds of ways.

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There are all kinds of ways you can harass people, legally, false investigations. Suddenly,

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there's an IRS audit, right? You know, people who think that these agencies don't have people

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that will abuse their authority and power, you know, or, you know, delusional. It happens all

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the time. It's not just, it's not political, per se. It's who has an agenda and who can pull those

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strings, right? Who has those guys as their puppets? And that's what happens. So you know, I've had

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those games run on me since the early 90s. And, and, you know, it takes some kind of, you know,

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termination encouraged to move forward. Luckily, that guy I'm referring to who I cannot name.

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He had been a special operator military and then became the senior guy for Senate intel. So when

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I met with him, he'd be the equivalent of a three-star general of each state military. And so he'd

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seen action and he, you know, he, you know, he'd gone mono-amano in bad situations and the Middle East

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Africa. And so, you know, he was not a, he wasn't some, you know, penny loaf of wearing lawyer

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from Yale, you know, he was, I know offense to penny loaf of wearing lawyers from Yale, but

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be careful of a daughter's stand for law school. But, but, you know, the thing is is that that's really

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what it boils down to. I'll be honest with you is, you know, you have to have the information and

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knowledge about this. But you also then have to have the integrity not be corrupted. But you have

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to have the courage to act. If you don't have the courage to act, the rest of it doesn't matter,

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right? And that's what you're, what you're trying to do is create this safe space and protection for

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these whistleblowers and people who have something to say. Right. And we have that. We, we, that is

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actually in place now. But it's new. It just got stood up this summer. And we're going to have to see,

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we're just going to have to see how, how much confidence these guys have. Now, I think that's a

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separate category of people. These sort of whistleblowers are separate from the ones who are in the

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system that are operational. We're talking senior people in the system operational at covert

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basis, right? You know, underground basis and things like this. And those guys have the ability to

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defect and bring with them the material and the hard drops and not just information, but the hard

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stuff. And that's moving rather quickly. Now that is even more dangerous, obviously. But those

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guys are in the system and know where the weak spots are. So, you know, they're on our side of this.

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And it's very encouraging. It's very spooky, frankly, what I'm doing because I'm the liaison between

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people in the US government, these law enforcement special access project guys that are part of the

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legal government. Let's call it team blue. Some people call it team blue. And then these illegal

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project guys who also are currently operational. They're not former people. They're in the system.

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Those guys may break the leash and run before the others, you know, even get out the gate,

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get set up. So we don't know how this would imply. I can't predict it. These are, you know,

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this is when I'm telling you a state of the art of right now and it's evolving, the reason I speak

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of it without being too specific is that I have to. I hope my own clearances in the sense that I

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can tell anybody anything I want. But these people trust me to be discreet about their names and

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and where they're located and how they're going to operate. But it's important for the public to

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know. And I think for anyone who follows this issue, who have been or in military or national

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security or intelligence circles, you know, the information on messaging any podcasts I do now

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strategic. I mean, I'm doing it because there's a message that needs to go out. Not just the

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general public to people in the general public may have a friend who works at Lockheed's Conqueror's

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or a friend who is at a base out in Utah or someone who's operational in Pine Gap, Australia.

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I mean, we know where all the black sites are. We're not all a lot of. We have a hundred and

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I think 155 black sites on our map that's in our archive. Your audience can look at.

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And a description briefly of what's there. So is there any in the Middle East?

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You know, my not our information on assets outside of Kunis, continent of the United States is

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limited. I have more information. Couple that are in Canada, UK, Australia for sure.

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We just start getting into other places. I have a couple places in Brazil we know about

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that are Rathion operations. And as well as the Middle East, I really don't have.

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Now, certainly, Israel would have a compartment operation dealing with this.

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But as for the other countries, I don't know and I don't have any sources. In other words,

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here's what I don't do. I don't get on the internet and Google this ever. I only deal with like,

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if you, let's say you were a person who had worked in one of these projects or currently in the

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projects, we check those people out. We run them through Intel check and background. And if we're

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comfortable, then that information gets put into unredacted into our archive. Now, what we've

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released to the public that everyone goes see is the redacted archive. There are a lot of names

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protected and information protected because we have to. But the unredacted will go to these

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operators. They'll go straight to, you know, not only the law enforcement guys, but the guys who

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are friendly in the system who don't have all that information. So let me explain, unpack that

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a little bit. Let's say that you're an operator at the Dugway proving grounds, right, Utah,

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which is a key facility now. And you, you might know, and even there, you're only going to be in

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a compartment operation and no one slice of that pie, right? I mean, very few people have what's

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called baseline access across a bunch of these programs. So you're going to have your information,

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but you're not going to know what some other aspect of that base is doing or never mind what's

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going on at Nellis, so called Area 51 or at Edwards or at, you know, fill in the blanks, Eglon.

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So that's the problem. So what I've tried to do is be a person who can get this data and information

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and intelligence from hundreds of sources and try to put it together to the best of our ability.

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Now, remember, we're not a government entity and we're, you know, I retired from medicine

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and we have one firm, one full-time staff member and everyone else is a volunteer. So we don't,

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it's not like we have, you know, an office building full of people and researchers. It's, you know,

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it's more of a labor of love that I run out of my house here in Virginia and DC. But,

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but it's the best we can do, but we have a she enormous, I can tell you that what we have in our

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archive and our intelligence base exceeds the entirety of what the constitutional government of

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the United States has by an order of magnitude. I mean, everybody, everybody can see this.

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Has access to it. It's online. Yeah. It's, it takes a couple years, it takes you a couple years

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to get through it. Well, yeah, we just released it, I think, in May and, and we're still refining it,

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but it's a searchable database and it has enormous amount of information. I think it has 100,

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I think it has 115 whistleblowers named with their testimony, videotape information,

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some transcripts and government documents and then another 600 and some that are redacted names

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that those people did not want to be named publicly, but it has a little brief description

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of what they did and where they were. So that's up, that's there for anyone who wants to go through

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the tedious process of unpacking it. So, so for the people who are interested in this and for the

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more people who are waking up or finding out about it, listening to podcasts and even for me myself,

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I watched the, the last century and how to reclaim it, which was amazing. And I recommend everybody

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watch that, but I can't help but feel quite helpless at the end of it. I feel like, well,

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what can I do? I feel like the only thing I could really do is just tell more people to watch it,

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but then if more people understand this and learn about it, what can they do? Because

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well, I always say the answer to that question is, well, can you do? Like, you're helping by

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getting the word out to more people and the more people who know about this, the better and it's

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a shield for us, right? It is actually. I mean, back in 1991, I had an intelligence guy say to me,

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if you're going to do this, then I was already moving in that direction and starting in 1990.

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Before most of your listeners were born, I suspect 34 years ago. And what happened was he said,

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you're a dead man walking unless you have the ability to get millions of people who know who you

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are and what you're doing. Because you'll be the tree that fell in the woods, nobody will ever

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notice. He says, a lot of people try to do that. I said, well, yeah, but I'm a doctor. I can't.

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I'm raising four daughters in the suburbs with a golden retriever and I was, you know,

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chairman of emergency medicine and stuff. He says, yeah, but you know, you're going to have to

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say that's why I had some people open some doors and back in the early mid-90s. I was on Larry

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King Live and some of these shows and it's very disruptive to my private life, obviously. But

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his advice was smart. And that's what I tell people. That's something people can do. Now that

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everyone has social media, they can take our links or your link and put it all over the place,

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right? And that's how information gets out. They're not going to get it out through CBS or Fox or

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any of these big networks, the corporate bosses of those networks will kill this story.

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They'll only tell a little teeny bit of it and the part of it that's the mostly false part.

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So let me be real clear on that. The way that works is the mainstream media will only go so far

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in covering this and then they cut it off. I've seen it had an open, over and over again. Or

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it'll only feature people like Louise Elizondo, who is a counterintelligence operative. He came

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out of the Pentagon and a storefront office allegedly dealing with this issue and it really wasn't

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the same way they manipulate the truth. Well, yeah, of course, I mean, his line has been

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there are a threat to, and of course, the new buzzword is NHI, non-human intelligence. I mean,

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you come up with all these BS euphemisms and misdirect words like UAP, use the UFO and then

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use UAP and explain Derrick phenomenon. Well, first of all, it's not unexplained. It's not aerial.

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As I go through space and water and everywhere else and it's not a phenomenon like a bullwider,

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ball lightning, you know, these are extraterrestrial vehicles or they're hours. Most of the ones people

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see are hours. And so there is a narrative where it's very slick. So there's a little bit of truth

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in what they say and that a lot of falsehood. And the only way you can push disinformation to

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on the people is to have enough of it that has a ring of truth that hooks them in and then they

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carry with them a huge false narrative. So the other false narrative is that older threat to our

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national security. Actually, the covert group that he's carrying water for is a threat to the

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national security and world security people like Elizondo. And the other thing that has been said

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repeatedly by he and his folks is that we don't have anything that can fly like that. Well,

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this is nonsense because we have people on my team who not only piloted the man-made UFOs,

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they've worked on and built them, managed the pilots. We have a new whistleblower out of

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Edward's Air Force Base who managed the pilots who flew the things that look like a disc or a triangle.

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So, I mean, you know, so this narrative is not only provably false, but you will never see or hear

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what I just said on a major network. Because those are integrated vertically and horizontally into

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the financial system. And the disclosure that we have these technologies that we disclose in the

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law century would be the end of that whole upside down pyramid where a handful of global

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elite and moneyed interests run the whole planet into the ground. And they are running into the

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ground. And so the problem is, you know, when you have media that doesn't have integrity anymore,

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what are you left with? Well, we're left with getting the message out through the

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alternative media and social media and podcasts and things like this because, you know, I have

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been on shows, I mean, years ago I was on a show that had about 22 million people listening. There

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was an old guy named Art Bell who had a show called Coast to Coast. And it was on the cover of

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time at one point because it was the number four most listened to radio show in the world at the time.

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Number four, and there were about 22 million people listening and he asked me a direct question

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and some entity like I think Clear Channel bought them. Big corporate entity. It's like what happened

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with Joe Rogan with Spotify. They had to take my interview out of his lineup in Orphan Joe Rogan's

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stay on there. It's not what happened because I wondered where that went. Oh, they had to remove it.

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They had to remove it. If you want to make a $100 million pay day like that, you've got to take

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the truth out. That's the bottom line. So has he asked you to go back on again? No, oh no,

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because I don't think it'd be allowed. I mean, his book. Remember, your money people are your bosses.

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Anyone who thinks any of these people, now if you're independent, if you're independent, like my group,

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we don't need money from anyone. I don't care. But if you got those kind of strings, yeah,

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you know, what's the old saying? He who has the gold rules, the golden rule in business. So if they've

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got the gold, they rule. So these multi-billion dollar operations rule this. And when I started

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talking to this guy, some years ago, and he asked me, you know, it was a live satellite global show

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with 22 million people listening. And he started asking me to start naming some of the people on this

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committee running these programs. And I started to. And I landed on one guy who's been very involved

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since the 70 named Dick Cheney. But at the time, he was the vice president of the United States.

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And immediately we went to an unscheduled commercial break, a voice broken from the satellite

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true story and said, Dr. Brear, change the direction of this conversation now.

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I'm going to dump this show live. I said, you're going to dump this show with 22 million. He says,

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yes, we'll have a technical difficulty. And I said, then you tell the guy asking me the questions,

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not to ask me the, I'm not here to cover your ass. I'm here to tell the truth. But if he asked

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me the question, I'm going to tell the truth. So this is one of my problems is that I am not going

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to falsely get witness to this. I'm going to tell the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth. But that gets you banned. I mean, you know, the go-ass Tony Robbins, what I mean is a guy,

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I don't know, an affront. What happened to him when he tried to put some information out about

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COVID with a group of Nobel Prizes and molecular biologists in geneticists and YouTube

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toward right down off of the YouTube system? How was your documentary not being taken down?

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It is down now. The corporation that had with the distributor took 100% of the revenue from that

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and then declared bankruptcy. So it's now off of all his platforms. It's on my touch.

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I had to find it on Pirate Bay. It's a watch it. Yeah. Yeah. It was so difficult to find.

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Well, and see that the other thing they're trying to do is starve us of any funds and resources.

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Yeah, that movie cost a better part of a million dollars to make and distribute and market and

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100% of the revenue was taken. And then that company went into chapter seven and 100% of the money

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was wiped out in the last three or four months. So this is what keeps happening to us through

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these corrupt people. But that's why we kind of exist off the kindness of strangers and people

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willing to help us. But we need some good lawyers too. But it wouldn't matter. I mean, once you go

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into chapter seven, it'll put it as a company and everything's wiped out. And that's what they did.

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The CEO of that company just used it all the money and never paid us. So we had and with that,

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of course, then it came down off of Amazon and off of to be. And so now we are getting a new

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distributeer put it back up. And the meanwhile, it's on my YouTube channel and on some other illegal

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sites, which look, we crowdfund our films, which means they're don't they're produced by people

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making donations. Right. So my view of it is that we're not doing this for the money. If I wanted

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money, I'd still be a trauma doctor, right, making 600,000 a year instead of zero. But the love that I

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did well enough that I don't need money at this stage in my life. So I'm an invested. But I think

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that for the most part, you know, most people aren't going to stay in this game because they do,

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if they start breaking out with the information like we have, there are so many ways to shut you

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down. And the financial part is one of them. You know, luckily, I'm in an unfortunate. I've been

[0:51:24 - 0:51:30] ▶

fortunate to have done okay. I have a question for you guys. Do you take supplements? And if you do,

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do you really know what supplements you should be taking? You see, this is a problem I had for years.

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I would walk into a supplement store. I would buy loads of random bottles of supplements and just

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pop pills every day, hoping for the best. But in reality, I had no idea whether or not I should

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be consuming these supplements. That is where Bionic came into the picture and solved that problem.

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You see, I've been working with Bionic for the past couple of years. And since 2021, I've been

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getting my blood work done with them every three to four months. And based on that blood work,

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they send it off to get analyzed. And then they put together a very specific,

[0:52:01 - 0:52:05] ▶

customized formula for me, which will last me for three to four months until I get by next

[0:52:05 - 0:52:09] ▶

blood work done. And honestly, it's been an absolute game changer for me. They also offer another

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product called Bionic Go where all you need to do is go onto the website, fill in question air.

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And then based on that question air, they can give you your customized supplements. So if that

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sounds like something that would be of interest, which I highly recommend, go onto website bionic.com.

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And you can use the link in my description to get a nice little discount on your first order.

[0:52:28 - 0:52:34] ▶

So what is your, what's an ideal situation for you? Like if things could go your way

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within the next year, a couple of years, how would it look?

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I think the way it would look would be there are a growing number of people who will defect

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from these programs who are operational with the material, the law enforcement, special access

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project team, which is assets all over the United States, would take possession of these. Those

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would first be disclosed to the members of the United States government. And I've been asked to be

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the person there to sort of take them through what all this is, because it's complicated.

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It's very complicated because you're going to have to show them extraterrestrial vehicles,

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man-made ones that are knockoffs that look very similar, extraterrestrial bodies, man-made aliens

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that look like them that have been used in the abductions and mutilations. And a whole bunch of

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other stuff that no one on this, the special access project teams know the details of because

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they haven't been read in. And I've been basically read in by over a thousand people over the years.

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I mean, we have 762 people in the archive. It's some of them that have come to me aren't in there,

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because they would never give us their names. But they had really important information or documents

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to take away us. So that's why that would happen. And then it would be released to the public.

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And then after that, the information would be disclosed in a non-threatening way. They say,

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look, we're not alone. They're here. There's no evidence. They're hostile. But we have been

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acquiring them. And we're going to change this. We're going to stop targeting them. We're going to

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start a peaceful, ambassador-type program to them, which is some of the first thing I started in

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1999 was sort of a citizen diplomacy outreach to these civilizations. And then we're going to release

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the technologies that are okay to release at this stage of human development. Now I will say what

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do you mean by what do you mean okay at this stage? Like you caught everything. Let me go. I'll show

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you the courtesy of being blunt. I would say 90% of the technologies that have been reverse

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engineered could not be released in the current situation with human, social, and spiritual evolution.

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They would be used by other dictators and miscreants and megaloniacs as weapon systems.

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For example, let's say that you have the ability, a man-made UFO that can go from hover to over

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the horizon in two seconds. I don't know. We're talking 100,000 miles per hour or more with no

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sonic boom and no fuel and no rocket using electromagnetic field propulsion and this advanced

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physics is transdimensional physics, which we haven't talked about. We understand how that works.

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But let's say you have a terrorist in Mogadishu. I don't know wherever on the planet. And they want

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to develop that and then deliver a dirty bomb over Dubai or Washington or London. How are you going

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to control that, Jeannie? Right. So there's some definite problems with all the technologies

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being full-monte boom put out there in the current state of the world. But the current state of

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the world, remember, is in large part dysfunctional because the more elementary energy technologies have

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been withheld. Let me unpack that for a minute. Imagine if 100 years ago, these technologies that

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would have given us free energy, quote unquote, from the vacuum or the quantum vacuum, zero point.

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And everyone in the world had free energy. There was no poverty in the world by now, none.

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So there would be justice and abundance. We wouldn't be having all the conflicts we had.

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Now there could be some, but I think it would be greatly ameliorated by the fact that there

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would be sort of a just and prosperous world instead of a world of the rich and a handful of people

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doing well. And right now there are three billion people on the planet don't even have energy

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to cook their food. They're cutting down rain forest and desert shrubs and the deserts are

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grown and growing because we're cut down all the foliage to make charcoal or the cook. So when

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you have a situation like that, it's a true mouthhousian crisis. So where the population is huge,

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but living off in 1800s energy paradigm. So it's going to take a while for us to do a catch-up on

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that 100 years of lost evolution. And therefore become peaceful. Because if we're not peaceful,

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if all these technologies are not ultimately the solution, I mean, you know, the energy generation

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ones that are stationary or they're beginning to hood up your car or running your house or business

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or factory, yes. But the ones that are these advanced propulsion and advanced say it's called a

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transdimensional or interdimensional technologies. Those things getting weaponized, which they

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have been by this criminal organization. That's what's scary. Those being weaponized by John

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Q. Dictator in some, you know, failed state place is a true threat to the stability of the whole

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planet. I'll be blunt. That can't happen yet. Not without some kind of world security pack that

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ensures that none of these things can be used for weapons. Could you could you could you

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argue that the people who are currently in control of that technology, they don't necessarily have

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bad intentions? Oh, they definitely have bad intentions because we know what they do and we know

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what their plans are. What are the plans? Yeah, I don't know. Just to take over the world. Okay.

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They already've done that. People just don't know it. That's already happened.

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No way. It's their long-term agenda is a global destruction and population reduction.

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So they have the ability to pretty much wipe out four to six billion people.

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And I think that's their intention. And I think that's not for all of them. I'm not trying to,

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I don't want to go into all that. You know, I know exactly what they have, where's position,

[0:59:10 - 0:59:15] ▶

what buttons they can push. And I've known about it since the mid-90s. So, you know,

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if I'm a serious person, I left my medical career because I realize how bad this situation is.

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And I always joke, being an emergency guy with specializing major trauma, I know an emergency when

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I see one and we're in an emergency, but nobody knows it. It's the frog being cooked in the pot.

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It's slowly going to boil us. And I mean, parts of this organization, they're so elitist.

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They want to get rid of people, but there's another weird kind of kooky, a really weird part of them.

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Always like telling this story. This is illustrative. 1994, I'm meeting with the Crown Prince of

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Liptonstein, Prince Hansard, I'm going to Liptonstein. And when he, we first connected, he was at his

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palace, a castle, and I was at home. We can't talk about this, let's meet privately. So, we

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eventually met in New York City at the Pierre Four seasons. There on the Fifth Avenue,

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near Central Park, and met for hours. And he eventually told me that the reason he was funding all the

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the abduction groups and mutilation groups, because he was someone putting all the money behind

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but Hopkins and David Jacobs and Mac and all these people. And most of those guys didn't know

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that the abduction, they were studying, were being done by CIA and other operatives using these

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technologies. They reverse engineered, made the look like aliens. It's all, it's all a stage craft.

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It's all ridiculously fake. But the gullible public believes it, right? But he said, the reason I'm

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doing that is that we have to have an interplanetary war and Armageddon to crystal return. And I'm

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quoting, and I went, excuse me, and it turned out he was the major funder for a far extreme group

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at the Vatican named known as Opus Day and was very devoted to this idea that crystal only return

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when enough of the world is destroyed enough of the population is destroyed that it forces to

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return to Christ. So I'm there just listening politely going WTF, you know, right? What?

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And then I realized that there is a component of this group that are like that. And then there's

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another component. And this is the chief mentor for Luis Elizondo that honestly are Satanists who

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love destruction, love torture, love the sea war, like the sea suffering. They're weird people.

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And I know them. I know who they are. So you have, you know, to kind of like two

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sides of this bizarre, I would call it psychopathic. I mean, medically speaking, the guys are

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sociopaths and psychopaths, but high functioning. You know, they're smart. A gate off Hitler and his

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henchmen, they were, I mean, he was a dummy, but the people around him were evil geniuses, right?

[1:02:14 - 1:02:19] ▶

I mean, the way they executed all that horrible stuff. So you do have this part of human nature.

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And those are the guys who are aggressive enough that they've taken over all these operations.

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Now there are others who are there just for more prosaic

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rather than the banality of evil. They want to control the money. They have integrated,

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you know, financial interests in Wall Street and the petrodollar and oil or public utilities or

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whatever it is. I mean, everyone has something they're trying to protect, right? And by the way,

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the release that even the most elementary of these technologies that would liberate us with

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free energy would alter all of that. I mean, I recently helped put together a black paper for

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a $3 trillion investment fund where they're learning this is true and they're going,

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what's going to happen to our mutual fund? I said, well, it's going to go the way of world

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typewriters or horse and buggies unless you get on the head of the curb here and get ready for it

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because we're only going to need oil for plastics and chemicals and things.

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Public utilities will all go away because every house and business will have their own source.

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Eventually, once the anti-gravity devices come out when we're more peaceful,

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we're not going to need roads. So there goes a multi-trillion dollar part of the global economy

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road building and infrastructure. So I mean, this is a huge societal change. I mean,

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I'm not trying to make light of it at all. I mean, it's so brave to change this, but it should have

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started happening 100 years ago. This is the problem. How do you see our civilization turning peaceful,

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though? Like I like to be optimistic, but from what I see and the amount of evil there is in the

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world, I just can't see that going away anytime soon. But even if okay, there is now free energy,

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free unlimited energy, how does that get rid of evil? I don't think it gets rid of evil,

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but at least it creates a, let's call it an environment in the year where in this, in that environment,

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you can have the foundation for a just and peaceful society and that won't happen overnight.

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I think the inertial phase of this will be what's called the peace of the chain dogs,

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the rabid dogs that need to be put on chains. But see, here's the problem. Up until now, no

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president or no prime minister or anyone's been willing to put those dogs on a chain, because

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they're so ruthless, they're willing to just flat out kill people. So that's where I get back to

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where I'm hopeful. I know this sounds crazy because I work for peace and peaceful

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contact with these civilizations for 34 years. But sometimes when a situation is what it is on

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earth today, you need people to come forward who will be the, what are they used to be called,

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the Shambhala warriors, the spirit warriors, and Native of them, my grandmother's Cherokee,

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the spirit warriors who are willing to stand up to evil and stand those down. So far, no one has

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been willing to stand up to this cabal of crazy people because of the power they have, but also

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because of the technologies they have. And so I think this is daunting. I'm not going to sugarcoat

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it. When I meet with these special forces guys, we did a retreat last year for the top commanders

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for this team. And I told them very bluntly, this isn't the Middle East Bosnia, Afghanistan.

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This will be the most unbelievable battle of your lives. And some of them had missing limbs and

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things from conflicts, but are senior now. And I go, look, I mean, this is the big one,

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your whole life has been preparing for. And some of the green braids are going, well,

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yeah, we were learned about this now and we're ready. Now, this is why when I talk about courage,

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you know, this is not a theoretical thing, you know, just exactly which politician do you know

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on the planet is going to stand up with people with that kind of power and technology,

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who are just flat out willing to smoke you and your whole family. Okay, so that's what we're talking

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about. And that's what I've been waiting to have come forward for 30 years. And now it's coming

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forward. So I'm optimistic about that. So that initial period could be the piece of the chain dogs

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because they're not only talking about doing this conus, but oak onus outside the continental

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United States. And fix this problem. Now, if that fails, then I'd say, you know, fast in your seat belts,

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going to be a bumpy ride for a little bit. Now, the last step on the F train here,

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you know, the last let's call the end of the algorithm as we'd say, you know, code blue and

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someone's heart cardiac arrest. The end of the algorithm here would be a off planet intervention

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by extra personal. So now that's not going to happen except in the very worst scenario. And

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let's hope that doesn't happen, right? But I think it would if things went to DEF CON1,

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we've got a defense condition one and there's nuclear work or there's a massive geophysical event

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that happens. This catastrophic, I think there would be a very substantial extra-trustful intervention.

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In fact, I know there would be what's riskier or something in between. And that is, as our technologies

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have gone up and up and up, we're beginning to reach parity or at the same level of what some of

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the ET technologies are, where we're a threat to them and there are worlds at some point, what I've

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heard from people in these covert programs from three separate people in communication centers

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is that the ET's are not going to let that continue indefinitely. At some point,

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they're going to have to shut those systems down to protect innocent planets out there

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and innocent people out in space. So this is another big problem. I'm being very blunt about this

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in the last year or so with members of Congress. I said, you guys are fiddling while

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we're on the burning. And, you know, the ET's are not hostile, but they're not idiots. I mean,

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there's a universal right to self-defense, but for them to stand down all those systems,

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because they're in space, they're on ships, they're on land, they're everywhere from the South

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Pole tan article, to stand that down would be portrayed by this organization and their lackeys

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in the media as an alien invasion, which is why they won't do it. They won't do it until it's a

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worst-case scenario. I mean, look, if I figured this out with my meager IQ, I know these

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civilizations have Jose Cruz around with IQs of 400 to 600 equivalent, top of the human skills 200.

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So, I mean, right. So, I mean, you know, these are not stupid. So they would try and these organizations

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would try and unite the world to go against the aliens. That's the whole agenda. The whole

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agenda since 1953, at least, I have a CIA document in the archive by the CIA director,

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General Badell Smith. And he talks about the psychological warfare value of the UFO issue. Now,

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this is what now, 71 years ago. And then, you know, fast-forward in 1985. And we have Dr.

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Jockele has a document from the CIA, although he's been intimidated not to release it.

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But in his book, he refers to it and says that the CIA was going all through Latin America

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using our technologies to abduct peasants, as it said, specifically in Argentina and Brazil,

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for the psychological warfare value, meaning that they wanted there to be a specter of fear

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and to resent the aliens as a threat so that the world could be united around a military,

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sort of fascist military entity that this organization would control and would be focused towards

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fighting the aliens. It'd be like the movie Independence Day, right? And so, go look at that movie.

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It's actually out of CIA scripting. So that game has been played since the 50s. So now we're 70 years

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into a, let's call it, SyOps, psychological warfare operation, that 99% of the UFO subculture

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and the public and movies and Hollywood and UFO conferences and books at Nossium have focused on.

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And that is it's all false staged events, the mutilations, cattle mutilations. I know the guys

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doing that. The, the deductions, I know the guys who've done that, people, I have people on my team

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who have been on the man made UFOs abducting people and and who and some of them who worked on

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the little creatures that are manufactured that look like aliens, the little grade bug eyed ones.

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That's not an easy hit. That never, that never portrayed to be the good guys.

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Well, no, but that's the thing. I mean, you know, except for, you know, the movie ET and maybe

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Steven Spoberks movie, closing counters of the third kind from the 70s, yeah, every other movie

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is this fearsome alien invasion flip. By the way, there are people in Hollywood who wanted to do

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a true story on this and they get shot down. The corporate Hollywood won't do it. They'll only

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green light these movies that are terrifying alien invasion movies. So this is another

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SyOps. Peter, anyone who thinks that there's not corruption in Hollywood in the movies, we see.

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Who green lights a $200 million flip and who pays for it and who's going to distribute it, right?

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Well, it's the same conglomerates that control the corporate media. So I hate to sound people say

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you're a terribly cynical. I said, no, I wasn't. I've learned through the School of Hard Knocks. I've

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met with senior people in Hollywood who want to do a real movie about this and they cannot, it'll

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go to a very high level and then get killed and get strangled in the cradle, which is why

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what's being force fed to the public is the false narrative that people like Luis Elizondo and

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others want the public to hear. That is an alien threat because two things that this group wanted

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to do in the 50s. They wanted to keep the technologies away from the public and they wanted to

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develop it for themselves through reverse engineering and capturing more ET vehicles. But the other

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part of it was to begin this psychological warfare program that the C.I. director refers to in 1953

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so that people would become convinced that there is a threat that would unite the world not in

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peace and prosperity, but in this fearsome battle between earth and other worlds. And who benefits

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from that? People say, why would they do that? I said, of course, think about how much the military

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industrial corporate war-monger complex makes. It's very profitable. Now you would take it and put

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it on steroids where it's the whole damn planet buying into this narrative. And war and division

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is a great way to control a populace. You know, this is why demagogues, whether they be political,

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religious, whatever, demagogues always love conflict because they're dividing conquer mentality.

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You know, having forbid we would unite the world in peace, realizing that we're one beautiful

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planet floating in space with a few billion people, but there are all these other planets out there

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and we could actually live together in a peaceful existence and a productive, very high tech society

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for thousands of years. No, because that would be that would summering their central control systems

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which are based on our energy system and their central political narrative, which is to control people

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through conflict, never ending conflict. And if peace starts to break out somewhere, they have

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agitators that go in and blow it up again. And that's been the story of the last century, unfortunately.

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And I think, you know, if you, you know, all this is very interrelated to this UFO-ET issue,

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and which is why Eisenhower getting back to what we were talking about a little while ago,

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is why Eisenhower is warned about the military industrial complex being a threat

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to our democracy and our way of life. And he knew this. He knew what this agenda was.

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And he knew that because he was a good man trying to do the right thing, he was shoved right out

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of the inner circle and lost control. And to my knowledge, no president per se has had,

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let's say, operational control over those projects since the fifties. I think it was fairly intact

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under Truman. It was sort of read in and properly managed until about the 1956 by Eisenhower and

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then went poof. That group had enough technology. And remember, the other big breakthrough happened

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in October 1954. And that's the date when we mastered what's called gravity control,

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where we can manufacture our own UFO objects. So the top scientist at the Naval research labs

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in Washington was the biggest department of defense lab in the world. He was the top scientist

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there. He was in the vault, as we call it, and saw the documentation that that was the date

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where we mastered anti-gravity or gravity control. And so, you think there was an ancient civilization

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that also mastered it, the ones that arguably built the pyramids?

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Well, you know, probably. I mean, I don't think the pyramids were built with pulleys and chains

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and ropes and slaves. I mean, the way they're cut in place would indicate that there was some very

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advanced technology. Now, was that a holdover from a prior civilization or even some cooperation

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between that ancient time and ETs maybe? Again, I try to deal with what I can prove.

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And when you start going back that far in time, you're looking through a class,

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Denley. But if you were asking why my opinion is, but I, you know,

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is that yes, there was clearly ancient times where we had contact with ETs or pyramids all over

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the planet. I think ancient people did have contact. I think we had a civilization here that had

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pretty advanced technology, but had not become socially or spiritually evolved enough to blew itself

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up. I mean, if you look at the Bhagavad Gita in India, there are accounts of what the South

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Saka nuclear war and the monots, these objects flying in the sky, it looked like you have those.

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From very, very old, we don't even know how old those accounts are from the Vedic

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and ancient in India. So we know that there was a civilization once on Mars millions of years ago

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that might have destroyed itself. So the question is, and here this is the big existential question.

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What are we living on earth right now today going to choose? So we're going to choose

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peace on earth and in space because you can't have, if there is no peace without it being universal,

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meaning on earth and in space, or we're going to choose extinction. I think honestly,

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that's our choice. And right now, in the next few years, is when we have to make it because it's

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come into a hit. So there have been civilizations that have just been wiped out and then they emerge

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like the phoenix out of the ashes. That's one outcome. It's not a pretty one for humans,

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humanity right now. But it's happened. And I think it's happened in the past in what the best I

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can tell from studying that. But I can't prove what I just said. The other things I've been talking

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about, I can absolutely prove. But what I'm saying now is, let's call an informed speculation.

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To me, it would make sense. It does make sense. For sure. One thing which I've been curious about

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after watching the last century and hearing repeatedly of all these inventors that had figured out a

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way to build these devices that would either provide free energy or would allow cows, cars to operate

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without a combustion engine. How did none of this stuff get leaked? How was it? It did. There's a reason

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we know about it. Now in our archive is something called the CJT files, who is CIA operative,

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that a friend of mine who has now passed away, John the Dini, was allowed to copy

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about hundreds of pages of patents that were confiscated of these energy devices. It's in the archive.

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Go look at it. How to build them and operate them? Well, that's the question. What I've been

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recommending from some people who have the wherewithal to do it. You could throw a rock from your place

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and hit a few billionaires right there who could fund this if they wanted to. It'd be the biggest

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technology you'd play way bigger than anything Elon Musk has ever done. To support an open source

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energy lab where we would take that intel as well as some people that I could pull out of these

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covert programs to engineer and bring out one of these devices. The problem is when that's been

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attempted before, I mean, I know organization years ago had a hundred million dollars to do it

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and that whole thing was infiltrated, taken down, people killed. You have to do it in a very

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specific strategic way. It has to be open source. It can't be a patent. It can't be secret. I would

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have the whole lab wired to the internet even through similar to blockchain systems that can't be

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taken down with any discovery that happens and real time goes out to the world. So you cannot

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black shove it and if we controlled it, we would not sell it out either. Because that's the other

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problem. A lot of these devices, someone comes along and says, oh, this is great and you're

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is some guy who's in a lab at Lawrence Berkeley labs or at his garage and they're offered 50

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million dollars. And they don't have a pot the PN right now. They go, oh, great, thank you. Well,

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that entity takes it, put it on a shelf, keeps it secret. Other people just been flat out killed.

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Patents have been confiscated. Financial traps have been set. That's a big way that you can do this.

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So we have mapped out more than a dozen strategies that have been deployed to keep these

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technologies off the market. So what we would do if we had funding, I think you'd have to have at

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least 20 to 50 million to do it, is have a strategy where it would be a multi-centered lab. You'd

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have the central and then satellite labs with people working on this, open source it, like get

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hub, like the software company did for solutions. And then any breakthroughs would be released to

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the whole world without charge right away. Now, people say, well, then why would someone invest in

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that? I said, well, look, I mean, get up became a multi-billion dollar company and it was open

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source. You can still monetize it down the road, but at the first stage of it in these field

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open source. At the second stage, then there'd be a thousand companies building better mouse traps.

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And but the entity that would be starting this would be on the ground floor. And it, which people

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shouldn't think of this competitively because you've got eight billion people living like cavemen

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burning coal and oil and gas and wood like we did in the 17 and 1800s. And how are you going to

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retrofit this whole planet? Right? You need all hands on deck here. And so I view it as a win-win,

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but most business people who have a financial mindset, they're smart with money, but they're not

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smart about this. Okay. And so that's what we need to find some people who have the resources,

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who would understand this strategy and why the strategy has been developed the way we have developed it.

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But it would be a, I mean, I really, the less money you have, the more likely a failure.

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Because you're going up against these organizations that have trillions. And so it's a heavy lift.

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Now, the other part of it is that if we were to get to that point, and I think we would,

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and within a year or two, where we had a device that was operational, that would be handed over

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to the public, but it would also, we would build up a hundred of them. And I would have,

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you know, Demi Labatos, whom being run off of it, and some of the celebrity actors who follow our

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work have their cars running on it, pull out all the batteries out of their Tesla and solder close,

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the electric plug-in and just have it run forever on a zero-point energy generation that's in the hood.

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We, you know, in other words, you would do the work around, around the mainstream media that will

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never cover this properly. So that's the other part of the strategy. Now that's expensive because

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you got to stand it up quickly and you got to reach out to those people and you got to push.

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Because if you have a few celebrities that can reach about two billion people in a two-week period,

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who needs CNN and Fox or the BBC, you know, because those guys have what, a few hundred thousand

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or a couple million viewers. So my strategy is radical and complicated, but it's based on having

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studied how some of these people I've worked with who have been geniuses, who've had these technologies

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and how they've been knocked out of the ballpark. Unfortunately, every single one of the people I know

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who developed these, they won't do this strategy. They're wanting for a big personal payday.

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So that's the other thing. The scientists who have this, we may have to say, here, you can get some

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back in percent, but here's, bring your information in. Here's five million dollars. Have a knife lot,

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a knife slide, right, or something. But you know, they're all kinds of deals that might have to be

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struck because humans being what they are, self-interested,

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avaricious, greedy primates, not a complimentary assessment, but true, just look around the world.

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You're going to have to have enough, you're going to have to be backstop with someone deep in

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up pockets to do whatever is necessary. They can't be done conventionally, it can't be done through

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patents and intellectual property secrets, and it can't be disclosed normally, like a normal

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technology. You've got to have these alternative ways of getting it out. So it's an unconvin, let's just

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say that business plan would not fly in Silicon Valley, probably because it doesn't check the boxes

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that the venture capital people want to hear. So you'd have to find someone who would understand

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that. And last year I had a meeting with a, he's one of the wealthiest people in the United Kingdom,

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multi-billionaire. And he didn't understand the strategy. He said, well, if we put them, I will have

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to, I said, well, but with all due respect, what do you know about national security and how this

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is going to be done? He didn't know anything. But of course, he conflated his wealth with strategic

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intelligence, which he had none. So he was a multi-billionaire that had a strategic intelligence of zero,

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but would have been good at hedge funds and turning Wall Street to make, you know, $15 billion.

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But that's not what's needed here. I mean, you need the resources and we would need people who have

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the financial knowledge and business knowledge because I'm not a business guy. I'm a medical doctor

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and scientist. But you certainly don't want some amateur in there mucking up the strategy because

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that's how you get everyone killed. I mean, there were the people who took over Stan Myers stuff,

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all of them are killed. And the very rich person who funded the people who got Stan Myers

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car, which was the running on fuel with water, only water. And then he also had a donut shaped

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free energy device that no one knew about. We knew about it because we went and saw it. That had

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a national security order on it. But that team that got funded and that the errors sold that,

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let's say that whole collection too. They all got wiped out right before they did. The chief

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funder calls me up and says, Dr. Greer, what do we do? I said, well, you do. And I wrote a whole

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strategic paper on what they need to do within 48 hours. And he said, well, they won't do it because

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they're wanting to monetize it. They're wanting to get the money. They're one that get the,

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I said, then they're dead men or they're going to disappear. I think only one of those guys

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survived that I know about. And this happened recently, not that long ago. So this is not a theoretical

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conspiracy theory. This happens. And you'd have to find some people or group of people who have

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enough net worth to stand up in operation to do it. I think if that happened, we could get these

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technologies out within a year or two. And I feel like Elon Musk is the type of person who

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would get behind it. From what I've seen from his intuition, I've heard that he wouldn't

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because of the risks. So again, I mean, look, we can sit here and name the,

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we're about 3,000 billionaires on the planet now. We need to find somebody with the resources who

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actually, here's what the missing element is. Ultimately, it's strategic intelligence and the

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courage because ultimately people are going to look at this and they may have someone visit and say,

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don't touch that or we're going to pull the plug on your SpaceX program or don't touch that.

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We're going to pull the plug on whatever. So I think people know who's buttering everyone's bread

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here, right? And at that level. And so a lot of those folks, do they have the ability to, do they

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have the intelligence to understand it? Sure. Do they have the courage to go the distance on it?

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I think not. Not so far. I mean, look, I mean, I'm pretty well known in these circles and I know

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most of these folks, but I don't see that. I mean, I think it's more likely you're going to get

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10 or 10 high net worth people, but not people with that kind of power and societal position to

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come together and do it. But right now it's theoretical because no one's ever gone, the distance on

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it. I wish they would, but not that I need another thing on my plate right now, but it needs to

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happen. And we certainly have the information to make a real go at it and more than anyone in the

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world because everyone who's tried to do it, like we showed this in the film, we went out to the

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desert in Arizona. And this guy had this thing putting out five kilowatts of free energy.

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But he was already entrapped in a financial scheme and he believed that he could do this and

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keep its secret and make all the money. And he just had this old paradigm of tech startup venture

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capital mindset. And now what, a couple years later, it's in the wind. So I've seen that happen

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a hundred times and the film documents it's from up for over a hundred years. So you know,

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the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

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At a certain point, we have to learn from the mistakes of the past, right? I don't see that yet.

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But no, we can be we can hope and pray we do. So if there's one person you could sit down and

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have a conversation with, who would it be? Well, that's a very good question.

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I probably should say because I'm about ready to have those conversations. Both in the UK and here.

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So you can figure out who this would be. Yeah. Well, I would say I'm a conversation with people who have

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whoever the next occupant of the White House is and whoever the current head of government in

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the United Kingdom. I hate to say it. The two crown jewels. You know, the United States with their

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special relationship with the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth and the five ice countries.

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That would be the most important conversation if whoever would be in that position, we'd go forward.

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And there are indications that that might happen. So I have I'm very non-political because I have

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to brief and work with everyone on every side of every aisle here and around the world. But I

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would say that there's some hopeful developments in that front. Very hopeful. And even if you get the

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opportunity to sit down and speak to presidents, that doesn't realistically have much of an impact.

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It could if they have the courage and the information. And that's what we're building on. So I'm

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just saying there's some indicators that that may be the case now. Okay. What are you working on the

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projects at the end of the year? The main project we're working on the ones that are referred to

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with the special access project. And we want to have some events next year that we've done all the

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public events we're going to do this year. The rest of this year will be very tied up with the archive,

[1:33:04 - 1:33:10] ▶

which by the way, we have a crowdfunding project for that because it's free for everyone,

[1:33:10 - 1:33:15] ▶

but it's cost us over $500,000 to get it there. So we're crowdfunding that archive so we can keep

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it free to the public. There's no fee. I mean, you have to register until we keep bots out of it.

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But you don't have to pay anything per month or anything. It's free. And it's 34 years of our content

[1:33:27 - 1:33:33] ▶

out there. So I would suggest that people do that but support it if they can. It's kind of like Wikipedia.

[1:33:33 - 1:33:41] ▶

It's publicly supported because the hosting charges and the IT team and we had to develop a

[1:33:41 - 1:33:47] ▶

specialized database. I mean, we spent about half a million dollars on that. So we need help

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with that. So people can donate a buck or a million bucks on whatever. Our goal is about

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a million dollars and we're at 476,000. So we're almost halfway.

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For people who are going there for the first time, how would you advise them to navigate through

[1:34:07 - 1:34:11] ▶

the masses of information that's on there? Well, luckily we put them into categories. So we have

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right now 13. We're going to add another category soon, which are my intelligence briefings,

[1:34:19 - 1:34:24] ▶

which will be redacted. The ones I've done for special forces and people like that. But like,

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if you're interested in crash retrievals, there's a whole section. If you're interested in the

[1:34:31 - 1:34:36] ▶

black sites, there's a whole section for facilities, black sites, corporations, map, map where they all are.

[1:34:36 - 1:34:43] ▶

If you're interested in whistleblower testimony, we have 115 of them in there with their testimony.

[1:34:43 - 1:34:50] ▶

You can read the transcripts or go through the interesting government documents. We have

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organized by country. So we have KGB, Soviet, Russian, US, UK, Australia, anyway, in Canada. So we

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have those organized by country. And you can go through. Now what we need to do and we need an

[1:35:04 - 1:35:12] ▶

archivist to do this is to then go in and refine it further. So in other words, let's say you have

[1:35:12 - 1:35:18] ▶

how many hundreds of documents under US prioritize them one through 200 or whatever.

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If you're interested in abductions and how that's all come about, there's a whole section on that.

[1:35:27 - 1:35:31] ▶

And the exposés on how they were doing it and documents of showing that.

[1:35:32 - 1:35:37] ▶

If you're interested in it depends what you're interested in. So by going through the categories

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and then under each category, we have subcategories. So when you get in there, you'll see that.

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And then that's how you can navigate through because it's too much to the reason it took so much

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time and work to do it is putting all these in the categories and subcategories with a

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searchable database. And it does have an OCR, but it also has through the database itself. You can

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do anything that's titled. It's title or it's category. If you search it, it pops up. So it has

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a search engine in it. Has it got anything about aliens and what they might potentially want with us?

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Oh yeah, there's a whole section on that because it has all the CE5, the close encounters of

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the fifth kind content and our experiences with the ETs. And I don't call them aliens because most

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people in America think those are people from Mexico or some country. I mean, they're considering

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immigrants. So it's a word that most people don't, when you say it, but the ebans, extraterrestrial

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biological entities, there's a whole section on that as well. And what our assessment is, but also

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our experiences, photographs of them, video, all kinds of fun stuff that's in there about contact

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and what experiences we've had over the years. So that's another is one of the 13 categories.

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What's your, if you could summarize it, what do you believe that their purposes for us or will you

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believe they're doing? Well, number one, I think they're hopeful that we actually make this transition

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to a peaceful civilization and can join them as part of a interplanetary society for lack of a bit of

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word. That's number one on the agenda. And in the meanwhile, I think they're monitoring how things

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are developing here to contain anything that gets out of control, including our threat to this

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world, but to their world. So I think that's the key thing, but I think they're very interested in

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people who are understanding this in a, let's call it a deeper way. In other words, what's the foundation?

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And maybe this crosses over to what some people call spirituality.

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Well, what's the foundation of peace or unity between humans and these civilizations?

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It isn't our humanity. It can't be humanism because they're not human. But what are they?

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They're conscious, sentient life forms. And when you cut through all the nonsense, the color of

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awareness, the color of consciousness, of sentientness has no color. It has no race. It has no species.

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It's consciousness. So before I was a doctor, I was a meditation teacher and studied the Vedas

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in Sanskrit. So I became very proficient in that science of consciousness, which was lucky because

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it informed me of understanding even how these ET technologies work, which is if you imagine technologies

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that interface directly with thought and consciousness, that's what they have. We're not talking

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neural link like Elon Musk thing. That's at the speed of light. Right? Those are wireless.

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We're talking what is the quantum of thought? What is the consciousness field? What is quantum

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entanglement on a conscious level? There's a whole section of the archive on this. It's very,

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some people think it's very esoteric, but I said no, it's operational. Because if you're from

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another star system, you're going to have to communicate at the speed of not light, but of instantaneous

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quantum entanglement. And quantum entanglement, what that is is where every point in space and time

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is instantly folded with each other. And the only way that the most effective way to do that is

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through field consciousness and thought, which is the ultimate entangled field. But you have to have

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the technological refinement, let's call it, to be able to do that. So their technologies are both

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consciousness assisted technologies, where the conscious mind or intention that you think to

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this computer and it does what you want. Or the reverse where the technology assists your

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own consciousness in seeing or gathering information. So it's a little bit like a high tech

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version of the CIA remote viewing program where people use consciousness, you know, the spy on

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the Soviet Union like Ingos Juan, who was a friend of mine before he died, and who was a famous CIA

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remote viewer using consciousness, the spy on the Soviet Union and stuff. But that whole area that

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people go, well, this is way out stuff. I said, yeah, well, you think they're using mobiles

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phones. They're not going to be using your cell phone that's using, I mean, let's face it, this thing,

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the piece of rubbish, right? It's moving. It's 1844. 1844 was when we first sent the first telegraph

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at the speed of light. But if you're a million light years from Earth, right? Or an

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Andromeda galaxy, nearest galaxy to us is two and a half million light years. It would take two and a

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half million years for that signal to get there. And another two and a half million for it to come

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back to slow. So now you start crossing into the what the CIA people call WSFM weird science and

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fricking magic, weird stuff. But where it's only weird because we've been denied the information on

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but it's the whole interesting nexus of where consciousness thought and technology come together.

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These three things. And that's that's the most interesting physics and science involved in all

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of this way more so than the free energy or the, you know, anti-gravity. That sort of clunky stuff

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from the mid 20th century. This is the really cool stuff. But if it was made public, the

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aliens are real, they announce it and we see them. How do you think we react to that? And what do

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you think happens to religion? Two good questions. Yeah. What I think the reaction is going to be

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exactly proportional to how it's presented. If it's an announcement, there are two announcements.

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Here's the proof we're not alone and they're here to eat us from lunch and to attack us and we

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need interplanetary war, panic in the streets. The other is they're here. There's no evidence,

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they're hostile. They're concerned about our hostility. But we need to develop a plan to make

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peaceful contact with them and a plan to bring out some of these technologies that can be safely

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deployed and will have a whole new world. So once a very unifying message and it takes us

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into the future, the other one is Armageddon. And right now, the thrust in UFology and Elisando

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and the media is Armageddon. I mean, they're holding messaging, though they won't say it,

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is the global fear of destruction and more. So it really depends on who and how that message is

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portrayed to the public. So if it comes out very publicly, who's going to coach and mentor the

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president or the UN Secretary General or the prime minister of the United Kingdom or the

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King of England or whoever to speak of this, right? Whoever the head of state is.

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Similarly, in our diplomatic core, how are they going to react to this? So I think that so much

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of this depends, in my opinion, on the consciousness behind it. What's the intent of the disclosure?

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And if you'll see in our archive, I wrote a paper in 1999, it's called When Disclosure Serves

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Secrecy. And it's what I'm talking about right here is when people disclose this,

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been in a way that serves the secret agenda of disunity and war and profitering and all that.

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And that's what's unfortunately unfolding on one level. On another level, we're trying to do

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a honest disclosure that would be peaceful and unifying and hopeful. But we're up against the

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machine as it were. I thought about rage against the machine. We're up against this big machine

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that is hell-bent and has been for 70 years. It portrayed as a threat. Now, if that's the disclosure

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that happens, it's going to be very bad for the future, frankly. So a big part of this is

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how is it disclosed? Who discloses it? So the answer to your question is it depends on the context

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and the narratives on that. Now, as far as organizing, I've been at the Vatican and with some other

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religious leaders around the world. I don't think there'll be a problem with it except amongst the

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most lunatic French 10-15% of fanatics who are going to view anything that isn't within their

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understanding of their scripture as an agent of Satan or something. There are some people who view

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anything that isn't explicitly in their catechism as some kind of threat or evil. But I haven't

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seen that. When I've met with mainstream, pretty senior people, the Vatican,

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an astronomer and the Vatican intelligence service guys and others years ago, I spent a lot of

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time with Monsignor Balducci who is a senior theologian to the Pope and they all had this perspective

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I'm giving, right? They didn't have a problem with it. And the same thing with other religious leaders,

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the Dalai Lama, I would not have a problem with Buddhism. I've had people reach out to me from

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India who are leaders in the Hindu thought. I don't think actually I think in the Muslim world,

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it would actually be, could be understood with some of the teachings that are in their tradition

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about this. And so, and it would Jewish, I mean, you have what is it as EQL's wheel and their

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references, I think in the Old Testament to things that clearly sound like a UFO and contact

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events. So, I think it could be, you could connect those dots and it could actually be something

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that transcends all those fracture lines and unifies people, right? But again, it depends on,

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if you have a bunch of demagogues wanting to divide people so they fight, then you have another

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outcome. So, so much of it is, is who are people going to listen to and how is this going to be

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articulated and what's the lexicon, what words are chosen and what's the narrative that gets

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foisted on the public. And I think that that's where this is dangerous because we don't, humans don't

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have a great track record of taking information and then not corrupting the knowledge, right?

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So, this is what, this, personally, this is my biggest, what you're asking about is my biggest

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worry, is that, yeah, this comes out, but it ends up empowering the very

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monsters who are currently keeping a secret, right? So, this is where, a lot of people say I can

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be very combative with certain folks who are out there, I said, yeah, I am trying to protect

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the human future here. The human future is hanging in the balance as hell, this is being discussed.

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And right now there are people running around on Capitol Hill and elsewhere, given false information

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to people who don't know any better. And I know that happened to past presidents, for a fact.

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So, and then they're manipulated into bad actions and wrong policies. So, it's a real complicated

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problem when you have folks who are in there who are foxes in the hen house who present themselves

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as objective scientists or someone in the military or former military and they're actually carrying

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water for the organization that wants to have interplanetary war. I mean, you know, that's to make

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it very simplistic. So, I think whether it's religious entities or the general public,

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I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and unfortunately, I think it's one or the other.

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I mean, the way this gets disclosed, the narrative that it's attached to it is going to be

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something that could determine whether it's a very unifying and wonderful event for humanity

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or something not so great. What would you say to your critics? It may be a couple of people who

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end up clicking onto this video and just think, you know, this is just a load of rubbish.

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I'm not going to listen to it. Don't listen to me. Go through the archive, go through the intel.

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I mean, what I tell people is that this is my best assessment. If you don't like it, there's the door.

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I'll let a hitch in the ass as you leave. I'm fine with it. I mean, people can disagree.

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And I try to base what I am saying based on direct knowledge and experience.

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And it's my own, you know, assessment. But, but I back it up by now I put all the stuff on the

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internet with the witness testimony and everything else. So I said, there it is. Now you can accept it

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or not accept it. You know, look, I have a family member who used to be the editor for a major,

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major paper and in law. And basically, she said, look, you could put a dead alien on my desk and

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I wouldn't believe it. And I'd never cover it because we're a blue chip paper. And this is the

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stuff of rubbish for the National Empire. And I said, well, that's your bias. So you're not an

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objective reporter or an objective finder of truth or fact finder. But literally that was said

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to me, you could literally put a dead extraterrestrial body on my desk. I wouldn't we'd never cover it.

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So I mean, look, everyone has their biases, right? As scientists do, reporters do, religious figures do,

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every human does. What I try to do is do an assessment and a short interview or time like this

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together and say, here's what my assessment here, here are the facts. And now we have the archive

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online for anyone who can read to see what it is. And people should reach their own conclusions,

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right? But I will warn one thing. And that is when you get online and look for this subject,

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the algorithms with all the search engines are going to push, they're going to push the false

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narrative because these big tech companies have a really love negativity and they love controversy.

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And so they're going to put because that's clickbait Facebook has had whistleblowers come forward and say,

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yeah, I mean, we do the algorithms because it increases ads. But there's also shadow banning and

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there's also all train of content and banning content. My stuff gets pushed out all the time

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and false narratives get pushed to the front of the algorithms all the time. So that's the other

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problem and whether it's the book publishing world or Hollywood, there are the folks who make sure that

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the narrative that the powers that they want the public to hear is what gets out because it's about

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brainwashing the public. I think it's all propaganda. But the tech, the revolution in social media

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as well as the internet has actually greatly empowered that process. Everyone hooked it would have

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freed us, but because of the central control of these tech companies and their algorithms and

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search algorithms and back the shadow banning and all that. That's a fantasy right there.

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Now it could have been that. It should be that. But I believe these big tech companies are

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integrated into the folks who want to control this narrative.

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Yeah, for sure. There's definitely some interviews I've tried to find a view which have not come up

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unless I've specifically written out the entire title of that video that it will come up.

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If not, then it's just that I'll keep scrolling and it won't come up. But I don't know if you

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check the comments, but especially some of the big podcasts which you've been on,

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they've been overwhelmingly positive. You know, I don't. I don't have time. I have people who do that.

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We have a social media team, but I don't have access to my social media accounts and I never get off.

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Yeah, that was embarrassing to say this. I don't have time and I don't have the patience. So I

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never see those things honestly. I'm just very honest. It's good. The feedback that you're getting

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is good. So I think people are waking up. Yeah, I think people are. Yeah. And I did. I mean, I hear

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from like the people who are the hosts sometimes. I know Patrick David told me that they had great

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feedback and Sean Ryan, the Navy Seal and some of the ones I hear back from them.

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They go, this is and it's good because that's one of the way we get the message out to the public.

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But like I said, I'll put out a little plug here at the end. We really need more whistleblowers

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and military and corporate people who are involved or have been involved either currently or

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presently in these programs to come forward. So anyone like that, you can go to our website

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at drstevengroo.com and there's a box for witnesses and whistleblowers you can click and I will handle

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that very confidentially. So we, I've just heard yesterday or David for yesterday that there's

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going to be another hearing in Congress in November, a couple weeks after the election. And so we're

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looking for more whistleblowers to come forward for that. Good stuff. Well, just keep up the good

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work. It's amazing. To be honest, it's being like one of my favorite podcasts. I guess this is

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very interesting and relevant information, which I think sure have it me. Thanks for helping us

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get the word out. No problem. Where could people find you your website and your social media?

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Yeah. So it's drstevengroo.com is the website and we will just send you. You can put the links

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to our social media and the archive is dpi a archive.com. And the dpi is disclosure of project

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intelligence archive. So it's dpi archive.com and there's a link for the crowdfunding. If people can

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support that, it's going to help us keep it alive and free for the public. We don't want it to ever

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have to have a pay wall on it. So right now it's open source. Amazing. Well, thank you very much,

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Steve. And I appreciate your time. Thank you. Have a good one.

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