involved in talking Gorbachev to step back out of the Cold War. Our, the Jesuit office was, we were
actually in direct communication with Gorbachev. Uh, and uh, it was, I should probably tell you the story.
long. He said, who you need to be is Gorbachev. Gorbachev, who is KGB, he is the, uh, KGB protege of
In the party. And so Jim sets up a meeting to, uh, to meet with Gorbachev when he's still,
and this is like 1980, 81, right? And so he goes to the Kremlin to meet Gorbachev. And, uh, they,
income is Gorbachev. And we sit down and I start telling him about, you know, my name is Jim
respond to this and Gorbachev who will talk English and private, but he won't talk publicly. But
When I start doing this, he said, so you have to agree to become the president of the Gorbachev
And so that's how Jim Garrison became the president of the Gorbachev Foundation. My best friend
and of course they did. They came for, people who remember this Gorbachev got kidnapped.
them release him. And then Yeltsin ran for president and won. And then Gorbachev and Jim Garrison
at the end of the Cold War because the Gorbachev before he was leaving, he was going to sign this
against this saying, this is an absolutely wrong response to the step back that Gorbachev has done.