Right.
Exactly.
So that sort of laid the seed for me.
And I sort of, you know, I'm 15, 16.
Yeah, I don't even remember. I mean, you can look it up in the web. Maybe there's something on the web. But yeah, I don't know that one. Yeah, I don't remember. I have to I just remember the name.
Stan was talking about it. And my father, but the interview, to me was a, you know, had an encounter or multiple encounters and and abductions and they did regression hypnosis analysis. And that was the first time I got exposed to that whole methodology of analysis.
So there's a long list and you can get the conference proceedings on Amazon,
And the only way to do that is to, you know, get rid of the nukes, fix your environment,
of 10 to 100. You can do that with gravity control. You know, if you have 1% less gravity here,
you have a flywheel spinning and the flywheel just keeps going. I mean, it is, you know, 1% gravity
to UFOs. Can you please explain this? Sure. Yeah. Well, Nick Redfern did some original work on this.
And only to the president of the United States allegedly was set up by Truman operations of the
project are carried out under control of the majestic 12 magic 12 group, which was established by
thrown out the window on the designated hospital, defenestrated, so to speak. You couldn't fly.
an example. So you'll see at the bottom there's the the war seal. Yes. You see the so first of all
you find another manual that's in 1954 that has the war seal and so you can go to the government
building 21 and there's initials EWL and JRT that for the changing out certain pages in the manual.
sort of hallmarks of the authenticity what was so stunning is the content you know if you just
go to the the page that says what to do with the bodies and the parts and where to send it and
ship it that's the you know from right Patterson blue lab to area 51s for so that's the part that's
very interesting whoa okay I see that right here it says like living entity living nonhuman
organisms an apparent good or reasonable health code ebe 010 receiving facility op-knack bbs
dash oh one yeah now are are we able to have well some of these say area 51s for yeah a lot
people have heard of yeah but are we able to know if all these are government or actually run by
a contractor well I think they're all government okay I think at that this time I mean area 51s
for is right right and uh in the blue lab at right Patterson Air Force base so yes wp yeah wp but
two people you'd tap particularly because Leslie Groves the head of the Manhattan Project um
an Air Force Base which is now I think Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado and his son Tim
so uh and there's there's a bunch of stuff and I suspect there's probably some other leaked
majestic documents in there that he didn't share with me he didn't tell me everything but
different agendas from the grays being maybe more genetic manipulation uh to the blonde Nordics
being you know more altruistic and benevolent but I'm just sort of speculating uh sort of highlighting
and I got 14 paragraphs back in one minute yeah exactly and what what what was the most compelling
had heard about this case from uh Charlotte Mann who is the granddaughter of uh
technicians in 47 that went out to Roswell to handle the bodies and they several of them died of
profuse bleeding in the nose and mouth from handling the bodies you know they're going out with their
we were fucking around with the MP or something and something in the physics of like
aliens fucking with our nukes is benevolent he thinks it could be malevolent and I said why and
I you know basically what he was getting into is they've been turning them on in addition to
turning them off sometimes like they're showing us they go both ways and my retort to that would
be isn't that to just kind of show us that like they can they're in control here and that they
wanted they want to do this and therefore you know if they really wanted to set one off I mean
like guys it's been 80 years they haven't done it yet like they could do it in a second if they
have that power you know I agree totally I mean I think it's it's far more of your systems are
weak and ineffective yeah we can turn them on and off you need to pay more attention you'd be very
careful with these things you don't want to have an inadvertent issue and have them blow up or
launch one and create a problem is I mean when we exploded in what July of 45 you know I believe
cysteine chapel Adam and and God's hand but the hand of God is actually a robot hand and the reason
I like this dichotomy because the bottom is what I get concerned about with like AI and things
in the Middle East and I just you know okay that's the sort of his input and and you look at today
the other thoughts that I we haven't really gotten into and and I'd love to talk a bit about
is uh is the whole notion of what is the the the giant secret what is the government really
out of his car walks over uh and the man sees him and gets back in his craft and and takes off
but man a man a man with with a with a cap uh with English retters writing on it and uh and
uh and you you see that it's sort of there's a lot of activity in the 50s and then it's suddenly
ET's aren't giving you equations it's human beings that are giving you equations so then I'm
trying to think of trying to understand you know what was the trajectory of the science going on
combination of both there's probably classified law that says you know the president can ask for
stuff but until it gets approved through these other channels that you can't know about it and so
didn't he have like a experience himself I don't remember yeah I can't remember the details
it's not most of them are land based and I over selected really for uh US and UK and a little bit
in in Europe I don't have good visibility into Russia or China or Africa so it was 104
to execute against uh the government which is you know a highly funded militarized top-down
organization uh that's that's highly effective at what they're doing and you're going to need to
list of uh do we disclose do we not disclose and the list for not disclosing is always a little
longer and and what we've seen over the past a few decades is titration and minimal disclosure
and you know what happens if we give Congress a little nibble at the truth
you know okay they did one hearing well they didn't do anything else yeah you know
executed at 52 yeah and so uh that sort of sums it up in my mind you know we we realistically
makes that right so to me it's like a great tragedy that like you know they've been convinced
and their perspective on ufology and religious scholars from multiple religions and that was um
to your earlier point about religion and god but i chose this book ufos who knows as a way to
give many people access to ufology in a new way so if you're believe in religious scholars or
religious leaders you can read the quotes about that you can uh you could look at scientists and
engineers you could look at presidents you can look at astronauts you can look at uh congressman
and generals uh so you and a lot of celebrities have said a lot of um you know i've been abducted
by aliens or uh yeah i saw one uh demilivato uh comments so there's all these different 185
quotes from various people all about you know it's a it's a picture it's a quotation
of what they said and so somewhat some of Ben riches in there some of them are very salient and