at the foo fighters and uh particularly in europe as potentially nazi third reich technology and so
tech earthbound secret tech and i don't think that he's in that place at least the last few times that
at that time i was trying to pursue a completely different life i was working on a phd in history
cold war studies at the university of rochester in upstate new york and i was very much into that
that was really my question so i bought the book and i like the book it's a great book and at the
people yelling and screaming at each other but there were some good uh threads there and there
community were assuming at that time or is there something here because here i was i was studying
basically the presidency of harry truman i'm looking at the early cold war 1950 and i'm thinking
um when jimmy carter kind of strengthened foia at that time and so at that time a lot of
that uh this phenomena is uh being seen at uh such altitudes and over sensitive military installations
we're being invaded so i read enough of these documents early on to think there's absolutely something that is at least worth
let's look at the actual evidence here and deal with it but they would never deal with it they would never
happened at roswell what i think happened at roswell was i think there was the recovery of
like velcro kevlar night vision all these human technologies being recovered at that crash site yeah
the day after roswell was published in 1997 he stated yes my assignment at that time was to um
some of the alien tech i don't think that's impossible at all so velcro yeah i don't really
they looked at this and so what they found was that it was layered with i mean ultra ultra tiny
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so i started i'm looking at um all of these early documents that's really what got me in so i was
and absolute secrecy had to be maintained over this at all costs like that was a conclusion i came to
pretty early on in looking at these documents and uh and then just reading book after book after book
as i was able to scrounge them up at the time this is back in the 1990s and um and i published my first
at all over the years yes it's it's developed and it's deepened i guess i could say i've never
we've got a privatized system like more and more you look at it it's there's government there's
equipment and things like this to to look at it and he's convinced that there are flying saucers or
becoming uh a hassle and a potential security risk for the people over at kirtland whatever they were
associated with this who firmly believed he was seeing more than that but also when you look at the
to just dismiss it all as saying he was only looking at our own secret tech i actually don't believe
hansen case is that there's a all this was going on at this time so there were cattle mutilations
they all got really deep into this and benowitz eventually was uh committed for at least briefly
you look at the the mid and late 70s and two important things were happening to threaten
the secrecy of the ufo subject at that time one was as we mentioned the release of documents of
all in the late 70s this all happened at once prong number one was foia prong number two is crash
retrievals it was it was kind of a first like no one was a magnet the way stringfield was at that time
uh you know we're in an era now since 2017 new york times and politico they do their articles at that
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of uh ufo information to serve their needs or what i believe is we're looking at a factional struggle
absolutely not resolved to that at all not not reconciled to that and they will fight every step of
who was uh head of intelligence for the joint chiefs of staff at that time this is april 1997
at all in 2019 was because of just a year and a half earlier edgard mitchell had died and his estate
and the recent congressional yeah so like that was um oh and the reason i brought that up at all yeah
at it i thought oh yeah it looks like that i see these things on x on twitter all the time and i just
the mistake okay fine whatever but i don't think that any of that was in bad faith at all i absolutely
for the one little thing rather than you look at the big picture of what these other
not have the ability to do tilt at an angle while hovering uh rotate this way rotate that way
with eric davis and all those guys we're looking at a kind of pile-on effect you know with uh the
yeah more and more new information is absolutely coming out at a rate that is unprecedented we've
this phenomenon is from non-human intelligence the reason i believe that is i look at the earliest
i would say good not perfect but good accounts from prior to world war ii that are worth looking at as
well and so when you look at some of these early cases and then particularly when you read uh the
that we know of at the time in the 40s were looking into this and there just is there's nothing
roberto pinotti who looked at a lot of the original documents that do exist in italian from 1933.
uh there's a couple of different ways to look at this so you know hal putoff wrote a very interesting
that as impossible at all um i mean we're already looking at exoplanetary systems and looking for life
and then could they get to us yeah probably i don't see why not at least in theory i think it
this at all but i i tend to think that life anywhere is going naturally to want to increase its complexity
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we've domesticated ourselves it's just like you look at domesticated sheep as opposed to wild sheep
leap you make whether it's mastering the use of fire or stone tools or now working at it you know
fair theory or a fair notion that our ancestors did a better job at this than we do and another thing
much water and land being inhabitable teaming with life so now let's go look at all the other
would look like and some of those ideas were kind of kind of goofy when i look at them now and i don't
at all of these different factors that go into it and it seems to me that bipedal standing upright with
some a coconut open with a rock or whatever and at the same time this quantum in this quantum field
to the sun and the earth is similar at one to eleven thousand seven hundred i don't know what that means
more about this phenomenon just looking at some of the statistics that seemed to jump out at me so all in
at each other with deadly weapons that could end the entire planet's existence and you're watching
when i was looking at the statistics of this um this whole thing happened because
idea if if for each case you had like a bunch of categories so that someone could just like look at
very glad i did it because then that allowed me to put all of that into a spreadsheet and look at
i'm an amateur with statistical analysis i can't pretend that i'm some genius at it but i
starting in the late 60s it goes to 75 at night and it was it remained that to this day 75 now i mean
collected a bunch of these cases so i looked at all of those and then there's books and like out of
heard of that yeah yeah kevin's a really good man he teaches at albany and in new york state
you know look at the ocean so a lot of things about it first of all it's non-compressible in other words
the east uh the u.s navy's got a big presence at a place called roosevelt roads there facing viecke
not exactly at the trench but it's uh you know not that far from it i guess right or around this area
jacques valet book where there was like a massacre down there polaris yeah yes at the amazon um the
there this is at um it's after midnight so it's dark uh there was i looked into this there was like a half
got illustrations or what yeah i think this is the illustration of that event oh or at least it's
name is james copp with a k and he also reported this to a couple of other um websites uh at the time
so he's operating communications on the j the jfk carrier 8 30 at night and he says
as well i mean anything that can appear at the what's called the cap the cap point before you get
at first so these objects would be in the water uh they'd hear these bizarre croaking type sounds
something that is really not popular anymore he did these meta historians like he was looking at the grand
study of human civilizations anyway i was reading that at the time this is 2007 2008 and um i thought you
uh which i was really thinking a lot about of course at that time to the point where you would have
looks at this whole thing from a balance sheet perspective saying all these trillions of dollars have
and she described and katherine forgive me if i get this slightly wrong she said i want to look at the
you know there are people far more conversant with that than me but yes i'm my dad worked at the world
york city cop at the time and uh he had a really cool job as a fire safety director as they were called
at the twin towers yeah he shared his job with a really nice man who i knew who was killed that day
um people like my own dad my father uh you know when i started really looking at 9 11
other floor and all the way down it did not happen that way at all but it was so anyway that goes on to
here comes trump and and so now we're at a point where whether it's trump or anyone else whether if
that so but i'm not i don't look at it that way so i don't have a lot of their um you know predilections
security work for i think uh nevada brothel i think was at security he put in some cameras for them or
this thing but then if you're looking at it from the reverse side of the lens if you're some
very unhappy with his employment situation at the time he had met edward teller right the vendor of the
of his at the time and they start going out to watch the uh displays of the craft and i think
was what was my position on that's the litmus test yeah and i was like at that time i hadn't even
my own damn decision and even at that time i was not inclined to dismiss lazar's story but i i kept it
off to the side until i felt that i had spent enough time to research it yeah and um yeah at that time
uh you know we we don't really do a good job at managing ourselves it's impossible yeah and there's
an iq of 500 and they're looking right at you and they've got a telepathic ability maybe they're
into all the little avenues and recesses and like and they don't laugh at your jokes so we're gonna run
came out in 2019 that that document i knew it was real and there were a lot of people at the time
off at the rest of the research community because i was for a little while the only the only person
publicly to take a stand on it wow yeah and everyone's like throwing all kinds of shit at me and
really yes yes he mentioned knowledge of it at the time when at when um the ass when um
he did in 2019 2020 and then just just at the briefing elizondo this is one good thing elizondo did he
and other related developments that went on at the same time so when i try to structure this book
these books um i break them into chapters and at the beginning of each chapter i try to highlight like
at all that there were a bunch of three-letter uh type agencies that we don't know about it wouldn't
hydrolysis whatever it is and they're they're able to do that so they're at least theoretically it seems
apparent u-turns at one point objects moving in angular motions in space there are things that you
moved off at an angle but there's there's a lot of these types of things that seem very bizarre and
to doubt that at all and and the subsequent activities that have had that have happened on
nasa are like clinging to him well there's a couple of ways to look at it one is that it's an op
greer can talk about this much more uh forthrightly than i can but he wasn't famous at that time like
this stuff and it was like a little blurb in the newspaper how he got married at the baha'i institute
at stake um and those individuals will use their assets in establishment media they will use their
say this conclude that every single thing coming at you is like someone's motivated yes for some reason
to have you have to have there's got to be a way to have some trust in things that come at you but the
think they're an op and they work for this organization here and the fact is when you look at the ufo
field that have something to say and it's a real we're putting ourselves at a great disadvantage if we
there people can go uh take a look at it there's a lot of information there a great community i can't
called richard dolan intelligent disclosure people can there we go look at that that's right there
definitely lay the uh most of it at the cia and uh the the deep state um i think kennedy's assassination