that that documentary on jonathan wagan i like i'd heard of him but i had never heard any of
of them open with possibly a non-human arm hanging out of the craft and this liquid is like clear but
it's viscous like syrup and the craft itself looks somewhat metallic but it's changing colors like
gets the fluid all over himself and it's to this day like removed hair from his legs it discolored
almost seemed like the craft shut off including a a sound like a guitar amp that eventually died down
adkins yelling at him to hey step away from the craft and during this time he felt like i know you
and jesse talked about jake barber and some of the psionics and stuff right he felt like there was
and to this day he has seen like these creatures what he calls them in his dreams that were in the
craft he he doesn't know how to explain how he felt like these things were contacting him but it's
like talking about um and he didn't really talk about live with me but stuff like being surveilled
by a team of men in black camouflage and stop me if this sounds familiar when you hear cases like
wagant being feisty being like 23 years old tries to swing at one of them
the details okay so like a quick side note to that the uapda which is probably going to be
trans classified foreign nuclear materials so inherently that that means like anything that
is their founding authority was also the 1954 atomic energy agreement so you have legislation like the
stories like jonathan wegan encountering doe teams whose given authority is that same 54 agreement so it's
of spooky shit going on in south america in the 90s like there's a lot of there was a lot of uh ufo crash
though jacques filet wrote a book about like some crazy massacre that happened in south america
um where like basically all these people were slaughtered have you heard of this
but um but yeah no south america and mexico that that period of time was like very active with
in 1978 in bolivia there was a case of a uh almost like a tic-tac like a cylindrical shaped object
like what you're talking about in 1974 in mexico there's a pretty famous kind of underrepresented
right and a lot of marine crash retrieval stories you have jonathan wagant you have like the testimony
thing is wagant didn't have any like medical tests right because i've hypothesized he was taken to
the namru navy medical research unit six in aikitos peru but it's not like he was subjected to blood
drawn all that stuff the one weird thing is he was forced to give in like an forced to take an anthrax
isn't talking to them since no he doesn't like him they don't like him oh wow part of what's a little
to me and i emailed them uh just cordially saying like hey i'd like to talk to you about your time in
respond hello my full name which is of course like a bully intimidation tactic and the guy just tried
out my information before to him nor since nor on my channel has jonathan did he tell you about like
ever being like contacted by anyone from the government or intimidated and tried to like
the fbi would show up at his house and show up at his grandma's house like looking to talk to him he never
talked to him but so he was pretty spooked sort of like the the men in black right if you would
these nest teams so these nest teams are part of the department of energy and it's basically like they
they comp they they bring in all of the like top tier special operators not quite and i'm sorry i should
like after they extracted him out does he or does anyone else have any idea what happened to that
pretty large and if it was stuck in granite how the heck was that thing taken out right like there
almost and and how does a does something get lodged in granite you would think that like it would have
is harder than granite i don't some sort of meta meta material maybe like a shield around it maybe
that translucent mother of pearl effect was some sort of shield like material and why did it crash i
spacecraft like that yeah you know maybe maybe there's some some truth to that there's some other
just exploded near the target and some of the fragging just took it out oh like a shotgun blast yeah but
speculation on his part yeah and then when he so he claimed in 2000 that he they were like
about like a three four-fingered arm hanging out the crowd yeah greer edited that out of of his of
but you know maybe he didn't want to maybe he thought like the descriptions of fingers and like some weird
alien arm hanging out would make it more unbelievable and he wanted to kind of like leave the stuff in there
existence maybe future humans like dr mike masters likes to kind of hypothesize on this crashing here
it like last year i think after she dropped her book she she kept it secret in the book right but she
the first time and they were like really upset about it like how do you make that i mean
interview george nap was a little bit hot under the collar because he said like hey i i'm i gosh
nap obviously or was it because yeah it was like 10 years after it was 10 years after okay
basically to make them look like aliens and they crashed it crashed whether on purpose or not and uh
and he was like well why wouldn't you expose o'donald that's it alfred o'donald
and they were like why did you keep this from us that's just terrible that's also something that was
being like disfigured people sent from russia which i don't know it's interesting that alfred o'donald on
she also she also is a proprietor that area 51 s4 is is real right yes like i think she's put forward a
it's like the auxiliary site below groom lake it's just south of room lake area 51 and then you have
there um but i don't know i don't know like do you think that area 51 is still being utilized for this
like dugway proving ground the utah test and training range um fort huachuca edwards 412th china lake
even added him on snapchat and funny enough that's the one place where he's ever like read my message and
like you're saying you're saying like what do i think about us being able to recreate a ufo yeah like
probably right i think like the tic tac was likely something that we have that we created you know maybe
some black aerospace or like lockheed or something like that some sort of like black technology that
talking about that could have created the tic tacs or something like that um i don't think it was like
uh accounts of these underwater ufos coming out of the ocean in like 1717 which is crazy and and and
since talking to him it's you know it's apparent that there's just a mixed bag of here like is it
jesse were talking about is like he was explaining how all this anti-gravity research went dark in the
50s yeah and just and just went nowhere and then string theory came about so like that probably has
and hit the like button on the video back to the show so it's not there's no website for the underwater
went on to be a cia spook so neuro's kind of claim to fame is using vessels like the uss halibut
like depths and this guy said this was about a mile and a half deep yeah did and so the team dives so
a back like a perfect triangle glyphic writing along the side like gun metal color no visible means
something to to get after yeah i wonder how many more stories there are like that of retrieving stuff
large metallic teardrop shaped craft no visible means of propulsion looks like a teardrop looks like a
this with richard dolan too like you can literally turn the globe if you look at the pacific ocean you
can see there's a there's a no land yeah it covers a more huge it's like a massive amount of this earth
this in 1964 it seems like sand dollar had existed previously with an itemized inventory of everything
items so it seemed like the us navy had a large itemized inventory of all of these objects on the
point of like underwater bases right yeah there's a uh there's a great author his name's richard
worldwide which is really interesting and of course there's it's it's very likely that there are like
question about undersea bases is how do you power them the logistics sound like a nightmare yeah at
least for it seems like optimal though right yeah for cooling especially if you have some sort of
states but also published a ton of papers such as like uh self-contained nuclear reactors to power
crazy advanced underground locations that i think it was ordroff even had like its own underground rail
who is pulling the strings because it's not like this is a above board air force project above board navy
project not like a cia project all of this is inherently born within saps and usaps unacknowledged
what stephen greer was explaining to me he was like he was explaining to me how like these tops top joint
describing it to me is like imagine if lockheed or one of these companies like this got so much
the rails so far to where they have more power than like every foreign and domestic military combined to
where they're kind of like a like a breakaway military superpower that like doesn't have to
answer to anybody if like katherine austin fitz says if there is a some sort of segment existing
it wrong but he said something to the effect of like when hits the fan at least we have the spaceships
or something like this yeah but what's elon on about right he was on joe rogan and he's told joe
like let's say that some of his uh starlink satellites are interfering with the nro's ai sentient program
even if he hasn't been read in right like he's surrounded by these people and he's surrounded
by that guy tim who was in the book who you know who's like super esoteric and all this stuff and
him and talking to him like how is it possible that he's not has serious conversations about it
whether it be like a full uh read in or not you know i'd wager it's probably high probability he's
read in on a ufo reality right i mean um it seems like like here's the thing it's very suspicious
something like that yeah uh our good mutual friend jesse michaels was just on joe rogan and they
with admiral thomas wilson which actually did happen like this even wilson agrees that this
no it's very classified but it has probably more oversight than something like neuro
uh something like air force something like ed if he's really testing reverse engineer triangles so
like at super high speeds yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's really interesting because jonathan said he
heard uh air force personnel talking about craft entering and exiting earth's atmosphere at like mach 10
miles per hour is absolutely bananas yeah especially in the in like the 90s yeah and especially
retrieval operators are they like a rapid reaction unit because if you look at a couple years from
has been accused by myself by great reporters like chris sharp christopher sharp at the liberation
dedicated rapid reaction units or are these local special forces guy like i hypothesized in the jonathan
stuff because he like he was is it true that like he was going in to try to like uh red team red whatever
fucking red team i hate that word um he was basically trying to like catch these whistleblowers
and like prosecute him for like leaking classified information and then he saw michael herrera talk and
then he was basically like oh my god i was a part of this yeah and that's when he allegedly decided to
like join the other side and like blow the whistle himself yeah i i'm so glad that happened i remember
on for a long time including where he was taken by jake barber so he's on new stuff like personally
person who's like bro you got to give him credit he's been doing this forever he's he's brought
forward the most amount of whistleblowers that have divulged the most amount of information so like
of uh the testimonies he receives i think he treats whistleblowers that come to him like his
like david grush to disclose to or senate select committee on intelligence yeah so i think it's very
complicated but i personally i i'm not a huge fan i don't really like yeah being called an intelligence
what i would like to see is you know how he always calls out lou elizondo yes he's got this crazy
about that uh i don't i i don't i would rather err on the side of like pushing for disclosure instead
of like trying to get into like interpersonal problems and so forth especially a character like
counterintelligence field activity oh yeah yeah uh i on a pedestal of of like high level whistleblowers i
put uh david grush and then um and then you know others but i don't like to engage in the drama but i
would like to see a debate between those two uh greer and elizondo that would be really fantastic and
is pretty interesting yeah man the when you start to paying too much attention to like the the
personalities and like the the ufo celebrities and the drama you start to get like lost in this
whole thing and i think it's probably intentional and then the combination of the combination of like
you know there's just so much fucking bullshit oh i know and especially uh official nonsense like dr
pretty interesting future after arrow so sean kirkpatrick gets a hold of arrow in like 2022
about them oh absolutely the miter corporation and uh like a group called the better angels
talk more about ffrdc's because when people talk about ufo legacy programs like joint united states
government contractor like air force and northrop grumman ufo programs the missing link there is the
ffrdc's this is stuff like the miter corporation the aerospace corporation triad national security run
r d wizards being these ffrdc's because they're not fully it's not like a contractor fully removed from
interesting ties such as like this gets can harken all the way back to kexberg and dr eric a walker
about michael's testimony it says like a u.s marine encountered an extraterrestrial vehicle in u.s
to see who doesn't like who and who's saying what about you know these other whistleblowers
know saying bad things about him oh yeah you know he's not involved with anything like obviously that
the more of this stuff i hear it's just like it seems like it seems like all this stuff just is
all the stuff from from sci-fi movies are becoming reality yeah you know like the like the jake
barber stuff sounds exactly like stranger things yeah yeah well speaking of of star wars have you
undersec if that's what it is a week later mark finally hears from brad brad sounds really like
really interesting vehicles there's like a v12 vertical takeoff and landing little marines
locky pulsar which is it is a craft that looks like a pumpkin seed uh craft that is i think powered by if
undersea uav yeah bro look at that look at that thing it looks like a bird of course the lockheed
creepy looking vehicle it looks like a looks like a almost like a bird but also a little sci-fi high
techie yeah like like the more i see this stuff bro it just seems like there there's a a human
he was he came in here with like a whole uh presentation of classified military aircraft
and reconnaissance balloons and all kinds of things that explain he basically explained away most of like
the most famous ufo sightings ever really including the phoenix lights he showed uh us like images of
these giant balloons that have lights built in them and they're they're like reconnaissance balloons or
something like this and it was the exact shape of the phoenix lights flying the same exact size
just giant black like tube balloons whoa yeah i you know i agree with you that a lot of what's seen is
engineered stuff because so brad sorenson sees the lockheed pulsar which seems like the same crazy
where there are three flying saucers stationed hovering off the ground right these look like a
okay there's a like a three-star general and contracting personnel there that are showing a
videotape of i think it's the smallest flux liner um kind of bouncing jaggedly over like a desert surface
hated that this this design because he talks non-stop in his interview that it looks like it was made by
jump seats uh so this craft was like jerry rigged that little ball handle right there it's really
about that same control system right there is used to control like the tr3b like reverse engineered
triangle but so these these craft are powered i don't really understand the physics but by like some
representation this craft has cameras slapped on the outside and like acrylic bubbles you'd find at a
flying saucer that looks exactly like one of these but it looks like an evolution of the flux liner
this badly there's a much higher definition uh yeah that looks like it image same shape yeah so mark
talk to people and apparently he met other people like yousaf veteran kent sellin who saw the same craft
guy very respected great on crash retrieval but he's also really close with uh greer like really
good buddies with greer and he calls me and said where did you find that interview like that's not
implication he may have actually like worked on such a craft saying stuff like i create i helped create
what i saw and stuff like that it's an incredibly intriguing case the flux liner incredibly intriguing
like everybody thinks about the tr3b triangle right like the the famous triangle from edgar fouché it's got
just like the classic triangle the sal pais patents yeah there bill mcdonald worked with ryan and dr
i'd like to press more into that because that's another possible example of a alien reproduction
it's like in a in close encounters of the third time third kind there's large crates and boxes of
like et to some high up military officials who kind of commented how et and like the subject of
about it um yeah bro so the jake barber stuff like the psionic stuff um what do you make of all that
it's it's so it's so interesting but i was kind of of the mind that before you introduce subjects like
psionics which requires a lot of of understanding and faith into like remote viewing um psi research
like the the fact like what michael herrera and jake barber were talking about with allegedly going to
this earthquake disaster zone yeah and trying to capture like kids with like left-handed kids and uh
first of all they're from like this remote part of the world they're not really connected from tech to
technology um and they're they're young so like there's definitely something to be said like we
were talking about on the phone yesterday i think i was telling you like like children i seem to be
more tapped into this in like a extra invisible sense yeah that that we lose as we grow up you know
similar like cats and dogs can like can sense different energies you know in the room it's uh it's
similar to like joe rogan's fart hypothesis have you heard that no basically like if somebody if
that a lot of the time with like uh you really got to slow down and demonstrate the capabilities of
right like each youtube video creates a lot of discourse of of you know the the pinpricks of
greer that talked about like left-handed and gay people yeah left-handed and gay people right young
i i would like to and allegedly they were kept at the spot and like they were held there and fed a
specific diet yeah and like given certain medications something like this yeah one of the
of eggheads and uh lab coats brought in a briefcase and opened it up and it was a like a metallic swirling
sphere in there almost like a palantir and told to just kind of look into it and react to it uh
crazy stuff dude it's almost impossible to track it all and like again when it comes when you have
people like that jake guy coming out and like talking about this psionic stuff and like it always is
fishy to me when people talk in these absolutisms and terms as if like they know exactly what's
happening you know yeah and uh and i don't know it's it's almost like it's just so difficult to
navigate this stuff that it's like you know i like to check out every once in a while and just be like
like there's probably disclosure advocates with varying interests and how disclosure plays out
you know maybe there's a difference in what like lou elizondo wants versus what eric davis wants at the
mechanisms for such programs like back in the 80s uh the navy was being overcharged by the grumman
corporation and some other corporations they were being charged like 600 400 to 600 dollars for ashtrays
and like f-14s and so there's just ashtrays yeah ashtrays and f-14s and that brings me back to that
overcharging uh like the nsa seven like five to seven billion dollars for the trailblazer program
mm-hmm which was supposed to be like a large-scale spine software uh right after 9 11 that was complete
this money saic has enormous contracts many of which don't make any sense like a recent 280 million
show up for like another three or four weeks so she's just sitting there and having no idea what
reports no technical reports nothing like that so they're just empty contracts that money can
be funneled like katherine austin fitz says specifically mentioning saic into the black
the bosses and she eventually quits when she almost chokes on some food and like nobody helps her but so
saic took over yeah yeah yeah saic huge huge into uh like telepathy telekinesis they have lots of
seriously because as recently as 2013 the office of naval research published a study like a revolutionary
study on human sixth sense using like precognition in humans almost to to kind of get a jump on things so
really really weird discussion of contracts and and like human remote viewing at saic
reading that article all about the creation of google yeah how that basically google was incubated by like
walk doing like uh status updates every month on what they were doing and how they were doing i think they
at where we're at now with all the stuff that's going on you know how they're basically trying to like
it's going to talk to you have cameras in it so it's just like okay this company that was created by
like the deep state essentially is now creating all these appliances and software that are integrated into
reality especially when companies like google when companies like saic that basically helped create
massive way even like dod high level perception and and kind of government perception yeah man it's
crazy but like going back to what we were we were just got we were discussing like um you know some of
these private contractors we talked a lot about like the doe which is interesting because you know
is you might know more about this than i do but the doe the department of energy essentially is like
of like what types of light bulbs we're allowed to use or sell the i mean the doe is truly an enormous
and amorphous blob they even have their own like like they even have their own armed teams called srt
special response team that transfer like nuclear radiological materials across the continental united
energy commission that has just tremendous ties to to possible ufo programs just like we talked about
and the doe also sponsors so many federally funded research and development centers like lawrence
such locations and and even the doe what they were doing in um i think it was the like the 60s or 70s when
they were like detonating subterranean nukes and like working with these oil companies trying to like
basically uh frack oil using nuclear weapons it's just insane like like you said all the all the uh
all the pies they have their hands in bro whenever you investigate a crash retrieval story or like a
whistleblower testimony like edgar fouché who talked about the tr3b reverse engineered alien reproduction
vehicle he directly said stuff like the lawrence livermore national labs and sandy national labs to doe
nitinol was like accidentally discovered uh battelle memorial institute also ran something called project
runs multiple ffrdc's like the out near fort dietrich maryland and that kind of region which has really
university and another organization that formed like their own uh company to manage some doe labs for
ffrdc's i'm trying to think which exactly here but once battelle did that then companies like saic
engineered technology at pax river in virginia so battelle has always at least to me seemed like a
almost almost like a chemical and biological subject matter expert there's there's one of those nickel
it was last year and he like you know he he's crazy yeah he was there like live streams like talking to
it was a woman and she was like uh i think she was a congresswoman and he was asking her about uh battelle
and she goes excuse me what he goes battelle memorial institute she's like uh how do you
what's i've never heard of that and he was like he's like okay it's spelled this go to this website
i really need to look into that thank you for for i'm gonna look into them thank you it's just like
you know i don't know it seems like nobody knows what's going on with all this stuff yeah and and how
project stork it battelle is just it's just strange i think so if i if i had to wager like if i had to
and on the on the uark level the university affiliate research center you have stuff like the
project magnet and project second story but ufo researchers like henry azadehel and william steinman would
which is a great case too yeah it seemed the esp remote viewing uh stuff seems to be like the at the
foundation of all of this stuff man and it's also like the the convenient thing about it is it's the
most ridiculous sounding thing i'm with you people can people can like comprehend or like swallow the idea
of anti-gravity or like aircraft that aerospace companies are making but as soon as you start
saying like reading minds or like a sixth sense and controlling shit with your mind people are just like
psionics this stuff work i i am i'm of the mind also like many of the skeptics i i think there should be
demonstrations of such a thing i'd like to see demonstrations of remote viewing of psionics and
stuff because just like you and just like a lot of the public that is the hardest part for me to wrap
there's a lot there to digest and research but stuff like psionics and and the consciousness studies i i
man yeah about doty yeah it's a really good movie um and it's just like that that that movie really
made me like more skeptical than ever about everything you know i don't i don't know how
manipulate information and like paint a false narrative um and you know that that is when i
started to look at some of these whistleblowers you know like hmm is this guy legit who do you look at
of them and you know some of the guys like i think the guy that that jesse interviewed the um
the base and they were like brought through all these uh these like compartments and they finally
got to this area where there was this like crazy thing he explains this randy randy randy randy i think
people like them you know it's it's uh people that like aren't selling anything and that seem to be
disconnected from it they seem to be the most credible and they're like kind of like one-off
interesting things but you know when you have like i i don't know about the jake barber stuff
i don't know if i can if i buy that you know it's uh it's just like if they're if they were going to
the internet and social media into it it's like jesus christ man like how are we ever gonna get to the
some live stream where he said yeah and that's he's all over twitter yeah like like that's he's
and blah blah blah is this the wall street journal thing that like talks about lou elizondo because i saw
something on twitter this morning about like some sort of wall street journal article oh yeah no
about how like uh the 1967 malmstrom air force base incident was just like a large emp device that was
1969 condon committee and then in the 1960s you have things like air force regulation 200-2 which
people like to to do studies on near-death experiences and like he's just spending a ton
of money trying to understand this crazy stuff that's like it's like almost stuff that's impossible
to like measure and it's like sci-fi woo-woo stuff that he's interested in and he's like one of the
that released from the osap program like bass was seriously studying the the tick-tock scene by
david fravor as like a human-made creation and so forth you see some of those this this all started
with like a pretty recent reddit whistleblower a guy who came forward on reddit talking about how
medical metaphysical side paranormal stuff yeah like he's like skinwalker ranch and werewolves and stuff man
it's so crazy see that stuff's tough for me because i like to just stick to military agencies
intelligence agencies right do we laboratories contractors all that i like to look at stuff you
that's what i like about your stuff is that you you like are going to the crazy extent to like
and uh you know like it's hard it's hard to find this stuff bro yeah the stuff that you're like that
that the stuff will be too boring but i need to say it because specifically for jonathan like
can get into and you know people these people that are like posting every day on every social media
platform and i'm trying to just talk about like the news of the day you kind of get bogged down you
kind of like lose your footing in what you're really trying to in like the real investigations that
it might take you like months to make yeah that's why somebody uh recently called me like a a podcaster
and i'd say no like i i fancy myself as like an old school ufo investigator like i i want to do the
conclusions like it's i make these projects very selfishly for myself sometimes because a lot of the time
hollywood writer that like made up a bunch oh yeah bill burns because the reason i'm curious about
that is is there was um a bunch of stuff in that book about like velcro and kevlar and all these like
corso makes in his work is like um integrated circuitry and transistors and stuff he makes the claim
that a lot of these stuff weren't copied like the technology wasn't basically seeded from craft but
variation of something like the transistor integrated circuit allowed for further advancements of our
it but he was skeptical that stuff like transistors were taken from the roswell craft when transistors and
so you think that that thing was a reproduction vehicle no no no so like i i think that humans let's say
pulling like a more advanced transistor type piece of technology off the roswell crash may have allowed
source right so more so just like um copy and not copying somebody else's homework but taking influence
like we can't there's a lot of rebuttals for most of that technology created i mean even passive night vision
like he's trying to sell this story to a huge world because there's massive differences in the
uh manuscript versus the book the book talks the first chapter about corso sitting like isaac newton
under a tree like thinking about the roswell crash basically placing himself there no the manuscript is
actually from corso and not with added fluff like in the book in the book there's one like senior
wound with like corso acts so tough to do that and that's not in the manuscript that's fluff nonsense
this was an event that okie shannon if you've heard of okie shannon he was director of like special
alexander including a massive mention of a i think it says like huge engineering project under bobby
that every single ufo sighting you've ever cracked sounds like sean kirkpatrick so this guy in 1989 is
it is they talk all about like it's it's called the octopus murder you know what i can't believe i
talk it basically explains how like all of these things are connected with wackenhut the cia and all
of these different scandals that have ever happened from like watergate to like iran contra and all this
department of energy uh i mentioned the department of energy special response teams that are like
across the water with the water in the background yeah go fast yeah and he's like whoa are you seeing
parallax of the water underneath it to make it looks like it's it looks like it's going 10 times faster
constellation report is can you like summarize okay so immaculate constellation according to
captured by indo-patcom to saucer giant saucers resting in clouds almost like camouflaging itself
and it's just two elevation circles that has a small illusion of of being like a saucer hanging
debunked within like an hour and you know props to props to the people who who debunked that but i just
yeah the jellyfish looks like a cluster of balloons gosh yeah it's it's so hard to tell with
that giant freaking ship the size of like 15 football fields pulling up right next to him
that's bizarre and there was also a radar guy apparently that like corroborated all of it because
is it's like tk something but that's another really intriguing story that was also captured on radar
unidentified phenomena or something like that it came out in 2022 2021 2022 but he also talks
about some of like the physics and experience g-forces by craft in in that sighting in the graham
wonder about is like how much how many like going to this underwater neuro thing like you never hear
convenient yeah but what about the radar that like they have all kinds of i'm sure they have all kinds
and between the us russia and china it is just like the oceans are littered with submarine high
and there's a lot of of so in project blue book there's a great documents like the unexplained of
them are of course maritime and uh uso sightings and some of these are like tic tacs hovering above
like a huge saucer type craft that passed very fast under the destroyer and knocked out the power
talked about like uh they've mentioned aircraft carrier sized usos and this is a guy playing i'm not
got to be some you know i know nasa is a very public facing uh organization but like you would imagine
there i can't recall them off the top of my head but there are stories of like lunar or apollo
it seems like nasa is almost disconnected nasa feels a little bit to me like it's a little bit
technology i i think at least to me it seems like a lot of the cutting-edge technology and actual craft
jason georgiani was telling me a story of a guy who i think he worked at nasa but was like shown
something um and then he got like hit on his bike he got killed like riding his bike like after that
was like shown photo oh this was this has something to do with the moon he was shown something on the
a joke like doesn't look like he biked enough because he was a little bit on the portly side
was privy to some of these images and was like gobsmacked and so excited for the upcoming news
to show structures he saw it he's like oh my god this is going to be released and it never got
lower thorough orbit since like 1972 right why that's on that unless we have arv that are traversing
our solar system which is possible because you know like gary mckinnon right he's the nasa he's the
databases and found like a non-terrestrial officers list and uh i can't remember the ship but he he saw an
image of like a huge saucer shaped i'm sorry cigar shaped craft in front of one of our jovian planets
so who you know there's there's the whole secret space program stuff that ssp with like cory goode
because uh i know it's uh it's frowned upon to to question the moon land yeah um but like there's a
lot of really big questions that like need answers about the moon landing like like how did they how do
in that data is because they accidentally overwrote their hard drives like they used those hard drives
then they to rewrite stuff and they accidentally like erased it or whatever so so now we have none of
that technology that seems like a i forgot my homework type statement as a kid yeah it is and it's
like it's also the only it's also the only technological feat in any sort of uh industry
or any sort of technology that hasn't event advanced or like exponentially grown since it was first
i asked about that van allen radiation belt stuff and like you know how is it is it really that toxic or
anyone give me a reasonable explanation as to why what is how we can get through that and like why
because apparently like the russians sent like a dog through the van allen radiation belt and it died
like a day after the claim there is that the van allen radiation belt like destroy either keeps either
toxic like a leg according to um this guy we had in here uh bart sybrell who has all these documentaries
like we we would have been going to the moon you know ever since then but yeah but we have it and we
like june of next year remember we were supposed to go to mars in 2025 and even back in the the 60s and
70s out of the rand corporation and stuff there were all sorts of plans for lunar bases and like lunar
underground on the moon like yeah maglev trains and none of this ever transpired it it is curious
this i think so we're allegedly like back in the i forget which year it was but i get there's a photo
of the first probe that got like really close to saturn took a photo of the uh the ring around
like some sort of weird looking vehicle that was like whoa parked inside of the ring of saturn i i think
wow yeah it's just interesting somebody like her who's so smart right and she's uh you know
she's she's a very reasonable rational rational uh smart human being also like believes in all this
stuff like you know taking all this stuff from the nazis and and uh creating a breakaway civilization
stuff it's like a it's a weird thing for someone like her to be interested in but like you know
had like a series of 20 like 25 interviews over the years on dark journalist and i watched every
research yeah oh she is like over 20 everything from like the ufo economy 1.0 to 3.0 to so many
uh like elon's doge uh when she was explaining like like elon created doge to find all this waste fraud
and abuse right but he's getting he's taking uh auditing like the irs social security the hhs
yeah like and and her what she was saying was that elon's deliberately trying to like get all of
it's everything it's basically payment social media texting like it's all it all is all funneled
integrate it with the ai is and working with palantir who just got like a like an 800 million
something like that no and he was also uh this recent uh falling out with him and trump oh my
pentagon is missing and the trillions of dollars like why didn't he go look for that because those
think there are numerous vehicles in which to fund these programs like we talked about earlier
katherine austin fits his dream yeah yeah for sure it would be but like again it's refreshing to
see somebody like her looking at it from the looking at it through the lens of accounting yeah
you know and it needs to be done because especially for the subject of like deep underground military
bases back in the 60s and 70s the us army corps of engineer like we talked about published a ton of
underground bases and these bunkers that people are building like if they're if there's some sort
of like catastrophe and that's the main idea of people that build their own bunkers is like how
how are you going to power it once you run out of fuel like like i don't do they have some sort of
like crazy special energy they could also self-contained nuclear reactors but i mean if that ever happened
government site under denver oh yeah i'm not going in there there's mount weather like we're not going in
right in california naval air weapons center china lake really creepy place and places like yuma
imagine they they have to have some sort of setup on the moon like some sort of base oh agree if we
hard to believe that that we haven't set up something there to like at least back up the data of humanity
you know because if if there is some sort of like crazy catastrophe that wipes out most of civilization
it's going to be like it's going to wipe out our technology and the the data that we have and you
if we've done it here which i believe we have i i think it's definitely possible on a place like our moon
yeah especially if we have stuff like the tr3b for logistics and a right to transport some stuff from what
massive trucks able to zip together and fly off right so that sounds like a perfect perfectly suitable
construction materials supplies logistics to a place like the moon if you want to have a
by saying i didn't know if you're keeping it secret oh no problem i just don't like when uh uh marines
but he did the full mr samuel like full name so yeah but thank you brother for having me this has been
like coming up people should look forward to yeah absolutely so uh whenever one project's done i'm
knowledge on like the wilson davis notes and stuff but in between my videos always expect another one in
up a independent review board appointed by the president confirmed by the senate of like civilian
ohio guy right right patterson and then there's even some uh rumors of like the eminent domain