Well, it's fascinating because that time in history was when children started to be tested in programs that were kind of adjacent to MKUltra, but also...
I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he was an early kind of architect of MKUltra.
So, you know, I think the kind of easy, lazy skeptic thing would be to say that, oh, it's a, it's a smokescreen for some MKUltra thing.