So I'm here with Peter LaVenda, the author of Sinister Forces, Secret Machines, The Unholy
here today. You're the author of Sinister Forces, Secret Machines, Man, Gods, and War,
in, uh, secret machines. Yeah. Excuse me. Sinister forces. Yep.
of secret machines, gods. And that's the cargo cult chapter.
the short answer is no, there isn't one, but one of the points we make and send in secret machines,
say that exactly? You think, you think secret machines and sinister forces, it's all, it's all
That's the secret machines, yeah.
There you go. And something else you get into with secret machines, which is fascinating, is
Well, is there a connection? I think so. I think we made a pretty good case for it in secret machines,
Secret Machines, um, God, um, no, Secret Machines War, I think. I wrote about it also in one of the Nazi
with the, with sinister, with the secret machines. And that is, there's this, there's this point that
to the stars books in secret machines, we kind of emphasize this aspect is that open your eyes and