first time and I took this guy, Ray Stanford, who wrote the book on it, a Sikuro solstera in a
Pentagon band-tree. You could look that up too. And Ray had been fighting the general public and
a re-aspect of it right. So, I have flew to the East Coast. I met with this guy Ray Stanford who wrote
within a week or so. It saw the imprint, saw all this stuff. And in his book, Ray is talking about
metal shavings from the landing gear of the craft that were recovered at the site. And Ray
So, and I had the rocks, Ray Stanford showed me the rocks. What happened? The landing gear came down.
But that was a different thing. So this was Ray Stanford story to me and he was like, I took