This one, right here.
The alien was alive in this bed right there.
It was like a cigar just flying through the air.
It was January 1996, probably the 13th,
and i filmed it going right over the top of my house got great footage would you like to see it
she's like yeah i'd love to see it so uh they make arrangements where he was going to drop it off at her
first time that i really heard about these so-called men in black and that was in the 90s yeah no this is
made fun of yeah exactly exactly but but but richard dolan you great ufo researchers write about this
that the that the claw from the et must have punctured the skin and it's like this he said the
bacteria most likely came from the under the nail of the et which didn't mean to like it wasn't like
an evil et that tried to kill this guy he just like accidentally in the process of grabbing it yeah he
got a little scratch right under his armpit based on the circumstantial evidence that has come to my
attention it was a very distinct and deliberate scratch on the resis skin clearly inflicted by et
i truly believe he was a victim of of vt's nail you know his sharp claw
why was it so resistant what biochemical gain did it possess to completely escape the antibiotic
as they will be scoping does those antibiortons it just sailed through destroying everything
in just one week that's very very atypical
yeah i won't go into detail about it but basically never before never since yeah they've never seen anything
You confirm that your brother was in service on that day 20?
I confirm.
Yeah.
All the researchers had like, he wasn't talking period.
Yeah.
Yeah.
or who knows what, like, and you had to harbor that for the better part of 30 years,
I'm sorry.
It feels like crying.
Mm-hmm.
And it's just amazing to think, you know, think about that.
He was a man.
I'm Vittorio Pacacini.
You've now gotten military whistleblowers.
You have civilian witnesses.
Oh yeah. It's a great movie. And it's, it's, he just, he said, you know, this happened.
I participated.
But it set us back at least, at least 60 minutes, possibly 90 minutes. But, you know, it was a little later. Maybe it was like seven, seven 30 at that point. And we show up at his house and they had just gotten home like 10 minutes earlier. So we would have missed them had we not gone and stopped to get that pizza.
What I am aware of, uh, is that the U.S. Air Force made a landing in Campinas, a specific aircraft belonging to the United States Air Force landed there in Campinas.
And following that, two helicopters took off from the very same Campinas airport, proceeding to an entirely unknown destination, which we later came to understand was the city of Virginia.
And so they probably would have been in charge of this sort of thing. So the fact that the Air Force is forwarding this to the CIA is such a tell. CIA runs all foreign intelligence, obviously, for the U.S. Such a tell that they were involved in this case.
I mean, it's honestly funny. It's like an admission of, you know, involvement in some ways. You know, I just interviewed a guy named Dan Sherman and he wrote a book called Above Black.
Yes. I swear to God.
What happened? Did you get in touch?
This is weighed on me for almost 30 years and my family.
Like we went right up to the craft. He went up to the craft. He said there was like a green liquid dripping out of it. He said there was an arm with, I think three or four fingers, like a, like a biological piece of an entity.
Yeah. And I haven't, I haven't watched the whole interview since I operated the camera for that interview with, with Dr. Greer. And, um, but he left an indelible impression on me. Like I was like, shit.
Well, cause he was a Marine, right? Yeah. And I, that's why I mentioned maybe the connection with this guy reaching out to you. Maybe there's some, you know,
and the thing is, is like, I wasn't really prepared at the time to process like crash retrievals, anything beyond Roswell. I don't know. It's been a kind of a slow evolution for my personal, like my personal journey, you know, cause I'd heard about, I heard about that was my first case where I was like, oh, this guy's credible, man. I mean, I, I, I felt like he was credible.
Seems super credible. This happened in the early nineties. He was a part of operation laser strike in Peru.
Yeah.
And this egg shaped craft crashed into.
Dripping.
Dripping.
Dripping.
Dripping from it. And he had telepathic communication with it.
It was, it was buried for about a 45 degree angle and into the side of the, uh, into the, into the side of the, the, the, the cliff there, the, the, the ridge.
Zip around in the sky with a little airplane falling around it. And then the thing lands. And then the kids run over and a handful of the kids see it sitting on the ground within 10 feet. That's a pretty bold move. I would say.
Anyway, it's, it's, it's a complex, it's so complex. And I feel, I feel almost like I know less today than I did 30 plus years ago. Although I know the phenomenon's real. I know there's a coverup.
But, you know, and I said, well, so like how many people know what you know? He goes, about 30.
I was like, so 30 people know what you know? I was like, well, um, is it, I've heard that some people say it's a little scary.
These, you know, these craft we're seeing over the base and these nuclear installation during the peak of the Cold War, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We're talking between September of 66 and March of 67, we lost 30 missiles to UFO activity.
Absolutely.
Because, and there are all these people who I went into this world thinking,
But no, but I interviewed him and he told me about when he was taken in at Fort.
It was okay.
I went to the reception.
I said, oh, I've got a meeting with Philip Corso.
But, you know, I want the world to know if this thing happened.
I was a witness.
Do you understand kid?
Like, you know, the implications and they're so vast impacts on organized religion and this and that.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
Um, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's sort of remarkable and, and we, we don't know, you know, what these beings are and then, you know, even on the, on the, I keep going back to these Peruvian mummies, but they had these,
Yeah. I think the stars are starting to align and I think that we can really get some traction in terms of like, and I think, you know, regardless of what you think about the current administration, I think if ever there was a time for full disclosure, I think it's more likely to happen with him than anybody else.
Yeah, no, I agree. He's more likely to do something out of left field.
you know, so much and I know what I know, whatever.
that they could die. Yeah. They could, in other words, they would have to have a slow
death. They could kill us. That's what she told me, Faye Ann Potter.
And we have stuff up there and you can see them.
You can put a, you can put up the reflector with the, with the rover.
together the briefing document for, uh, dignitaries and high level politicians and all that stuff.
I think it was like a global thing.
They detonated that up into, was it subspace or.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Everything, you know, that doesn't compromise some like specific vehicle you're working
If the president of the United States issued an executive order that absolves me of all
of my TSSCI NDAs.
NDAs are non-disclosure agreements.
Those are the agreements we have to sign for every compartment in our SCI clearances.
So if the president waives or absolves my obligation to those NDAs and I get subpoenaed by Congress,
somebody on Capitol Hill, some committee, either in the Senate or the House or the both,
to reveal everything I know that I learned from my investigations, both unclassified and
classified into the legacy UAP, crash retrieval and hardware reverse engineering and NHI programs,
I would do so.
If I could be waived from that or absolved in some fashion by presidential order and if
Congress subpoenas me, yes, I would go and tell them everything I know.
This reality is very hard, very physical, very real.
And this type of evidence, you can't come by in the open literature.
Thank you for remembering that.
That's a great line.
A taped interview.
So Malmgren on his deathbed...
And there was kind of a takedown of the...
You know, there's all these people criticizing Malmgren afterwards.
Like I was talking about Rua.
I was talking about, you know, Virginia.
And then they looked at me and they got up and they closed the door.
And then we went inside there and that's when we had, I don't know, maybe a 30 minute
And anyway, I got up from the meal and I went discreetly out.
Like I was going to the bathroom and I paid for the meal.
He's created so many careers.
He has so many.
And I'm a random stranger, like just screwed up his, his ride.
And I heard.
I'm pissed off.
That's why.
good case.
And I came upon a couple of articles, uh, coincidentally, haphazardly, you know, written
And that it was, uh, that's what he thinks.
Why is he, why does he think that?
Yes. All the above. Yes.
And now the whole entire doctor medical community in the region are all supporting him, getting behind him.
You know, come with me. And. Oh yeah. That's not normal in the space. So this, uh, there's, there are a lot of people, you know, they call it. It's like, I want to get the quote unquote scoop. Yeah. And like, I'll even see like, I'll cover a thing and then somebody will try to like front run the thing. It's like, and I'm always like, great, good. You cover it too. We'll both cover it. That's like whatever. Yeah. Power in numbers. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we, you know, so I appreciate you. And, um, this was, this was amazing, man. And, uh, I'm excited to, to do this and hopefully do this many more times. Thank you, brother. All right. Thank you, Gene.
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