And I was initially very concerned about that because Bud Hopkins, who very kindly took me under his wing, wanted to hypnotize me, but he wasn't a professional hypnotist.
In other words, Bud had gotten me the best in the world.
I tried it with Bud later, but I was so paranoid about it not working that it didn't work.
And, you know, both of us, we started out laughing at Bud behind his back.
But Bud had been really careful to shield me from any awareness of any of that.
And Bud's name was mentioned.
Then there's a telepathic message that they're cleansing themselves, that it's waste matter, and that they're literally—and so then I told Bud Hopkins about this.