alien around. I actually have a letter from Spielberg that was written to Larry King about me
in my movie. Well, yeah. I don't talk about this that often. You recently got invited
workmanship, right? Both Democrats and Republicans working on this on this issue together. And
quite honestly, we're living in a time which is unprecedented time of a coordinated push for
the nation, correct, all across the world. I mean, the Kenneth Arnold thing was huge, right?
having this conversation, right? It's like, well, I think three, maybe two, three, four at the
most. He's like, I'll write a number down a slide. It's all right. So he's like, well, okay, we'll
bases, hey, there's a film crew coming, Alan Sanders got Bob M. Nigger, given full, you know,
know if he said one jet or multiple jets. I don't know, but the three discs, I know for sure,
I remember that for sure. Three discs coming in and it's late afternoon. These are early morning
thinking to myself, that's how they fly when they're going slow. They do this like a leaf kind
of falling. He said the disc came down wobbling like it was in trouble. And he goes, James, it landed
and I said, okay, was it a tripod would, you know, yes, he goes, I think the camera was on a tripod
because it wasn't handheld. It looked like they were anticipating something going down. Or maybe
they were filming some other exercises. They were ready. But he goes, yeah, it was it was locked.
It seemed like they knew this was happening. Or they were filming something else. I can't remember,
I wish I could remember that detail. And I should remember that detail, but I don't, but it
doesn't have access to sporting and it would seem that way. It seems a little too perfect.
Dad, I don't know for sure. I wish I could. Anyway, so the disc comes down and he goes, James,
and I said, well, did it have a tripod landing? Did it have pods? Like, what did it land? He goes,
you know, like, James, I don't remember, but it was firmly sitting on the ground. And this is the
part I remember really well. He goes, James, like in a sci-fi movie, there were no scenes. Like
this door just opens up and drops to the ground and there's stairs. And two
quite honestly, I was like, holy shit, because I was starting to believe that that case had happened
with Alan and I called Aminagar or I was with Aminagar and I called Alan because I was like,
search for Paul Scharnel and Robert Aminagar on some TV show in the either late 70s or early 80s.
And he died in a car crash. Paul Scharnel with his wife had on car collision. They both died.
got a breadth of knowledge on cases far expanding way beyond anything that I'll ever have.
The cases that I know, I know because I put boots on the ground. I went to China, I went to Australia,
young, right? So let's just say he was in his, let's say he was 35. Yeah. Okay. So what was
movie. But I released it in the back of my mind. I was like, that movie is not done.
when when when all he was born, I didn't even have a bank account because I know what I saw some
tax issues happen. It was horrible. And I fought it. But in long story short, I remember like,
I want to get to before we get into some like my favorite colors blue. Okay.
on the doctor's side. And he managed on the hospital. So, he located, we went, excuse me,
we went after the individual. Unfortunately, the individual had died.
all the other doctors that saw it, that saw the footage and described it. And so we were overwhelmed
with excitement. As you can imagine, got the whole thing encrypted and it wasn't there. So, but
walked around the town of Virginia and the whole world, not no, it's impossible. Sorry. I dismissed
it for 10 years. Do we need to look into it? Being someone who who who's already done documentaries
And he was very serious. Like, you know, and I had a Air Force Brazilian Air Force guy sitting
down with us. I wasn't going to like jeopardize. So we didn't talk about Virginia. And then we
And like, like listen to someone that you believe was directly working on alien technology.
Can you put me in that fucking please describe the atmosphere? What was it like? Did you look in
Okay, I could see the intensity of it all. We tracked him down.
Recently recently recently like in the last maybe 10 years says there ever been something that you're like there's not a lot here. Yeah, something tells me.
Oh, hair is pretty good. Yeah, the airport.
Yep. And I really want to get through these. One is a little lighthearted and one is something we touched on the top of this episode.
But first is what just for anyone out there, what TV show or movie or like fictional made thing. Do you think in your opinion is the most closely related to the phenomenon?
Those encounters with the third kind. Yeah. Yeah. And is that because of the tie in with Heinrich? Yes. And you know, Valet and you look at those you look at even the description of the entities.
Those came directly out of project blue with files. Wow. And like you know Spielberg's little way of of saying that is having you know Heinrich have a camera.
You know, you see a parent smoking a cigar right or a pipe. I think he was smoking a pipe. Yeah. Yeah. During the encounter. But even down to Richard drive his face being burned.
Those came right out of you know, closing count. So yeah, closing count of the first kind right you see you off a close kind of the second time.
It interacts with the environment, burn someone's face. He was in Prince the Ground effects plant like whatever radar photographs. And then you got closer.
And so that was the kind of kind. Well, those came directly out of you know, he was a consultant. As was Jacques Valet. You know, and Jacques Valet, his character was portrayed.
I don't know.
So he was John, the Air Force Office special investigation guy was only there.
Was there the whole time?
And I felt like I was ever second.
That's cool.
And he said, you know, a little, a little factoid, something you might want to,
it still doesn't mean you have all the answers.
And there's probably, I mean, I'll, I'll maybe I'll pose this question to you.
Yeah.
But I was like, hey, even if we're someone's P2 dish, whatever,
And he had this dramatic UFO encounter over Tehran Iron in like 19,
He imagined like, that's why I was watching David Grush testify.
Tears just pouring down my face of relief.
And then this weight off my shoulders.
I'll have to say, no, call me.
And so highly encourage you guys to check that out.
I'll leave James's links below, including his, his ex, his,