So when I graduated from college, I worked at Sandia National Labs and learned very quickly, especially in the 70s, that if you were a guy doing stuff at a place like Sandia, which is a federally funded research and development center, which means a private corporation that's principally funded by the government.
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is there seemed to be like an epoch of time during the 80s and 90s, maybe going back into the 70s,
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