Every time I say something's impossible,
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And you show all of these witnesses
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It's crazy. It's crazy.
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um actually if you when we flew the drone over that exact alleged impact site you can see it's different
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the ground looks different in that zone there it does all around it i mean it really does yes and um
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threatened at gunpoint he didn't see anything get out of here he was like i was just trying to help
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like you know what what's the problem you know just trying to help i'm not you know and that's when
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it they were very tall they had suits and uh they spoke portuguese and you know sometimes there'll be
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one person speaking portuguese and there'll be a couple other people that'll just be silent in the
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strange in the area first of all i'd like to take a quick moment to acknowledge all the brazilian ufo
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researchers have done a stellar job helping expose this story clodio covo pacchini uberta jada rodriguez
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i will not have my daughters are not liars that will not that will not happen that's right they
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were very intimidating to her and like so all this pressure and all this you know but i i was there
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one clean dashboard it's like having a silent partner who never sleeps our favorite part of the
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product is the dashboard which gives us complete demographic information we can see where our orders
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and I'm going to rip this guy's head off.
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But again, I only reported on two because that was the most concrete.
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I would have testimony that we can get our hands on.
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He said he'd shoot you.
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But before he said that, he's like, if you're here to talk about the ET, he won't talk.
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Like I was just like, I, it's like time stopped and I'm looking in this guy's eyes and I've
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He doesn't want to talk at all.
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If there was, perhaps a possible telepathic communication?
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And so he died in 2018, I believe.
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Have you talked to his family at all?
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He's a neurosurgeon.
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He's a concert pianist.
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And I saw that he was frightened.
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Just as I was frightened, the creature was also frightened.
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The desnana, the fear that we ourselves possess, just as we became afraid of this, this being whose nature we do not know.
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And it was suffering, and the girls said it was suffering.
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In fact, when all three girls came into contact with that creature, two of them, the two sisters, grabbed each other by the hand and hightailed it out of there.
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And they realized they had left Katya behind.
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Katya was the oldest.
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She was probably 21.
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And Valkyria and Liliani, the two sisters, stopped and realized, shoot, we got to go back and get Katya.
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And Katya was locked eyes with this creature.
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And it was pleading to her, because I asked Katya, what was it saying?
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It was like, I need help.
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And it was suffering.
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And I just thought, my gosh, can you imagine how different it would have been if they'd gone with, if the girls had taken the creature and hidden, or, you know, who knows, like, given it aid or whatever.
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Anyway, the girls, Liliani, Katya stayed behind.
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And apparently, the doctor came out and took one look in the back seat.
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And there was, you know, Marco Cherise, military officer with this creature on it.
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I was working like 17 hour days.
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And apparently, uh, Uber DeGio Rodriguez, who's one of the leading investigators, a lawyer, um, who's gone.
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I don't know what happened to him.
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What are your feelings on Virginia?
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He was invited in there and he said that he described it just like everybody else.
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Every single bit of testimony from separate people from all over the area, all fits perfectly.
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I mean, he's on, you see him on camera.
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Yeah. And that was, that was, you filmed that. What?
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Like it has to be this way, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'll, whatever you want, let's do it.
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Whatever makes you comfortable.
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Yes. I interviewed him in the nineties with, uh,
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Yeah. What am I talking about? You have an interview with Jonathan Weigand, which Stephen Greer edited down in a weird way.
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That scenario. In fact, I had a really recent, I had a really vivid dream just recently. Um, really vivid. Like, in fact, when I was watching your show with Joe Rogan.
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He had, he had that dream.
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Tony, because it's so easy to go. That's impossible. That couldn't possibly have happened without the whole world knowing about it.
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Well, that's, that's people have an allergic reaction to everything that doesn't fit their kind of mental model of how the world works.
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I'll be the first one to admit, I have absolutely no idea where they come from, what they want, why they're here.
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Like in the fifties, uh, 57, I think in, uh, Italy, some big game, they were.
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You know, maybe with the information they have isn't correct. Well, who knows?
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But I, the, I mean, and you'll hear things like, oh, they activated the nuclear sequence.
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So like, I think it's really easy to post de-stigmatization of the whole topic.
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Cause he, he's also, he respects you too.
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Like he's got tremendous respect for you.
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And Rogan was, it was too much.
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It was too much too soon.
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And, um, and then Michael Hessman arrives.
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Is that just a skeleton of what?
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And they have elongated heads, but they didn't undergo any head binding.
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He reached out to me through his secretary.
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I still have the email.
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I think I took that and I put it in the back of my head.
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Cause I was like, you know what?
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Like you gotta be kidding me.
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You know, at the time, I, I don't know.
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I took it with a grain of salt.
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I mean, it would be pretty funny if they were, because, you know, here we are looking out across the cosmos for any sign of intelligent life, you know, with the various NASA programs, you know, looking, uh, for water or whatever, oxygen or atmosphere, you know, all these various planets.
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And then it would be funny if they were like right here, you know, and maybe they are, you know, and maybe they are.
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Well, they, the, Hal Puthoff always talks about the UFOs engaging in what he calls signature management, where they control what they sort of look like or appear to be an optical and radar and that sort of thing.
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And so maybe that's happening with the beings themselves.
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One thing that I've learned over the decades is suspend judgment, man.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because this is an example.
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version moment of contact, which covering all the congressional hearings really quickly you saw.
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Oh. Oh. I know. Yeah. And one of my biggest regrets was, well, I have a lot of them, but.
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He goes, James, it wouldn't surprise me. He goes, we had Hasselblad cameras with no
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viewfinders, gardening gloves on.
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And I think the video's weird.
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The two light, the two light sources that, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the flag,
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pick a case that we should look into.
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And they picked Roswell cause Roswell, obviously if it happened, right.
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And they're talking about fast walkers and they're talking about things in space,
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They did scoop it out of the ocean.
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Merrick and D Dean Johnson versus the.
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I was like, wow, that makes sense.
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No wonder why they shot it out of the sky.
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But it's like, it's like nuclear trade secrets.
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We don't let out the trade secrets, but nuclear science is taught at universities across the
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This reality is very hard, very physical, very real.
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It's just automatic.
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You're automatically...
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And his mentor, by the way, was extremely high up at the CIA.
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And I'm always impressed when I watch how you do that.
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Like, I'm doing it in my little way and you're doing, you know.
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So have you ever seen a saucer in a hanger?
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And there was like a, I don't know if it was a round table or if it was slightly like,
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um, like, uh, what do you call, um, um, oblong or whatever.
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I mean, there's that story of this Miss Pat, this comedian.
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How did they find out that you were covering the thing?
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Oh, oh, my, my work is public.
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And, and I was like, Hmm, this is interesting.
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It seemed like this is an original, you know, article.
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And it was filmed on a tripod, which means they anticipated it coming.
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Cause you don't have a tripod camera sitting on tripod unless they're filming something else unrelated.
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And then the event happened either that or they just saw it happening because I asked those details.
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And he said they were met with a bunch of, uh, military base commanders in uniform, got into a Jeep off.
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They went discs to sat there on the ground.
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And then the film footage ends.
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He thinks it was staged.
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He thinks it was a real disc, real technology, real flying saucer that really flew in the sixties.
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And that it was, uh, that's what he thinks.
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Why is he, why does he think that?
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I guess it was hard for him to imagine that real aliens.
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I don't, I really don't know.
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But he said that they had.
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Big noses, slits for mouths.
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And some sort of device that they assumed would have been a communication device.
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But if he's saying that, is that like, were there makeup artists involved?
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Evidently there would have been according to him.
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But they dressed them up in Egyptian.
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Evidently there was like bullshit.
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And I give really quick examples of various, you know, Magenta.
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