Manhattan

And of course, at a long form conversation, we discussed the history of covert UFO research programs, their connection with Robert Oppenheimer in the Manhattan Project, white presidents and elected officials may have been shielded from the UFO secrets in the past.

The Manhattan Project, they were kind of the first blue look.

It's been marinating for months and it was executed with Manhattan Project's style secrecy.

I would probably ask starbocker, Oppenheimer, and be like, what was your thought process in the 40s and 50s, you know, scrolling this away, I mean, besides overlaying the Manhattan Project secrecy, because often I was the one who created the classification that included the UFO stuff.

And all those guys, the guys that were involved in Manhattan were overlaying the same ecosystem of secrecy and some of the same ways to protect stuff that they were protecting on nuclear secrets.

The Manhattan Project.

The Manhattan Project, they were kind of the first blue book.

the UFO report people on the Manhattan Project.

And it was probably very tied in with the Manhattan Project.

The Manhattan Project would have a custody of it and then it would go into the atomic

who also worked on the Manhattan Project.

he's sometimes credited for helping Oppenheimer pick Los Alamos as the site for the Manhattan

The guys that were involved in Manhattan were overlaying the same ecosystem of secrecy in some of

or Stifeson and Manhattan,

I find it very fascinating to think about the fact that Manhattan,

And just like Manhattan,

Luis Walter Alvarez, the father who was in the Manhattan

There were rumors that maybe it had taken over parts of, you know, the Manhattan project

when I see these patterns and I see that despite as having this technology since the Manhattan

you point out on the Hudson in between Manhattan and Hoboken and basically land the plane perfectly

And if it were really about, you know, leakages in the Manhattan project or socialist sympathies or whatever,

So he helped pick Los Alamos as the spot for the Manhattan Project.

He wrote the Los Alamos primer, which every single employee of the Manhattan Project had

Then six weeks into the Manhattan Project, he falls out with Leslie Groves over issues

you just said we have a strange connection since the Manhattan Project yeah of UFOs being spotted

if we have like a Manhattan project two point out so it's like you the first Manhattan project is

if you think about like the Manhattan project two point out it's the world of like stealth

combustion um then in some sense you could call that like the Manhattan project two point

the bar for this space the first thing is the aforementioned manhattan project that brought up where

at whatever and then there was this cover up but like with with the manhattan project i've heard

in alamagordo right next to los alamos and helps piclos alamos as a spot for the Manhattan project

los alamos and and then six weeks into the Manhattan project he clashes with general

the Manhattan project maybe you figure something out and then like sern like maybe you figure some

and in this case in sern's case it's electric plasma thrusters and in the Manhattan projects case

how did these guys not have a manhattan project and not get to that and like and this is