They were worried in essence in the vernacular. They were worried if the Russians or the Chinese, you know, were trying to penetrate the program.
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That that's the way I came to terms with this it wasn't this you know I left a meeting also we're talking about aliens you know talking about UFOs that wasn't the case from to me who is always well could this be adversarial technology could this be Russian could this be Chinese right is some sort of nice you continue to go down and you're getting more and more details and facts you start realizing okay well it's definitely not Russian could be Chinese well let's let's see what the red force technologies are right let's see what their capabilities are because not just technology I see this thing flying is this Chinese it's okay what does it take for this thing.
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To do what it's doing right and do they have that technology to do it it's not just simple to say oh yeah that that's clearly Russian or Chinese because it's not just the object it's it's the signature of the object and I got to be careful not to go into a lot of detail that because signature sometimes signature information is more important than then then identifying the object itself because you can recognize performance characteristics.
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that at least we're pretty sure we don't have maybe the Russians maybe the Chinese sure back in the
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