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on television before. And he's doing so at great personal risk to him and his family. Now he spent
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And you were not involved in the military at all at that point.
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But we don't really talk about it at home.
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And then that same conference, these AT's came back and thousands of people saw these
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So you were just at, were you like cleaning pools at the time?
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These are pre, this is even pre iPhone, I believe at the time.
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and somebody pulls up and says, hey, you at, in an hour and a half, look up at the sky and
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Were other people seeing these photos or a craft at the time?
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So you, you, do you feel like that there were two separate forces at work?
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There's guys that show up at your house or they show up and ask you to join the military.
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Because every time you've been at a conference or you've spoken.
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So stop parking at JP's house.
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You're with other special forces at the time.
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Were you at Eglin Air Force Base at the time?
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They have a similar ship that when I looked at it, I was like, oh crap.
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Those are like, I mean, that's like a joke at this point, right?
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Do they have to pick their kids up at dance class in the afternoon?
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So you arrive at this base.
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But he worked at what he called the Ice Cube neutrino detector at the South Pole Station.
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Yeah, he worked at that station.
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So when you look at these arcs under the water,
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and other craft moving at speeds that we don't have...
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I woke up at three o'clock in the morning with a humming noise.
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Look at Steven Spielberg.
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Where, and can you say maybe where this was or what you were looking at?
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And these U.S. Marines were threatened at gunpoint and nearly killed.
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Because they don't follow any laws at all.
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