New York Times

on the front of the New York Times it's suddenly become a big part of the accepted lexicon to where

information to the New York to the New York Times where I think this was also where we got the

new term UAP which is also interesting and saying like all right front page of the New York Times like

initially and the Washington Post and New York Times kind of shout the bet and didn't end up

running with the story and so I I don't especially New York Times I don't know why um I think

a New York Times staff writer right so she wanted to do it through New York Times and I think what's

the New York Times and I think like they they doubted that the whole thing is actually absurd

caveat it with whatever you want if you're the New York Times but to me not publishing that

look at this look at this that's different than like pentagon New York Times being like you know

When I saw the 2017 New York Times article in the videos that were released, I realized

He says no idea about age not my specialty and asking about it would have been a net negative especially now he says and he probably says especially now because of the sort of disclosure this is post 2017 New York Times bit you know.

It's a recent report by the New York Times unveiled the existence of a real-life ex-files

Our story actually ran the same days in New York Times.

It wasn't until the New York Times article came out in 2017 and I saw the video that

them to the New York Times.

I had the Washington Post and Politico and the New York Times competing for the story.

The New York Times seemed to be the best opportunity.

The New York Times had virtually no impact on the legislative or executive branches of

What changed if it wasn't the New York Times, then what made the difference?

It was only in 2017 when the New York Times article came out that my interest was really

operating out of the same area and even other areas later. But, you know, when the New York Times

New York Times released in 2017 that the Pentagon admitted was real in 2020.

You know, so I mean when I first saw the New York Times pop a massive day of,

Things where he's like, I'll tell you that right, but not on the camera. So I I went to the New York Times and said, I got it all. I've got the names. David Grush.

But they got lute released as to to two up reporters that I spoke to about the alien interview. Ralph Lumenthal and Leslie Kean and they got New York Times to release this this tick-tock video.

It was 10,000 to 13,000 feet in the air going 40 miles an hour. So but but what did it do? It opened the door for the for somebody like the New York Times to start saying aliens and using the vernacular UFO where news outlets can talk about John Stewart.

I don't recall whether we discussed this yesterday but in the New York Times article that came out in December of 2017, Leslie King, Ralph Blumenthal, that basically exposed ATIP to the world.

This was December of 2008. What I didn't know until January of 2018 once the New York Times story came out.

They bent the rules a little bit and onto the front page of the New York Times.

It's one of the things that's stifled discourse on this until I think the New York Times

UFOs ever since the New York Times article in 2017.

New York Times article revealing the secret Pentagon UFO program and some of the tapes that have walked out of the Pentagon was merely the tip of the iceberg

The documents out of the Pentagon and going to New York Times and bring it public while you're making the phenomenon