DHS

almost exactly with the program that uh dhs and dod release on what kona blue was to be

happened with kona blue at dhs at least part of it uh they just died on the vine something got in the way

really mean well dhs and answer the question right there yeah you get accused of talking in circles

lose no because we completed the job in kona blue and what we did in dhs we competed completed

that transfer of material that dhs said in kona blue

and with uh dhs and with dni it was a pitch battle i i mean there were people at dhs that uh i was

kona blue as if it is real you know the popular conception is it ended that dhs kicked it out

We found this out actually in a congressional hearing where they were actually in DHS had

uh, what is between the lines on what DHS Department of, uh, uh, Homeland Security released, uh, which

Uh, and my statements that were made in DHS, uh, I was not in favor of some things because I knew.

I can't talk about that because we have to also talk about DHS interest.

should be investigated. There was a push inside DHS to begin an investigation and it was allegedly

Specifically, the DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology.

co-sponsored by the FAA and Department of Homeland Security, DHS. And even when I was there like 2013

And it was co-sponsored by DHS Department of Homeland Security and FAA. And it had all the folks

where you go through a background check, maybe like DHS does when you want to

the and the DHS had created a law that they were going to go ahead. And at one point inspect

something like 99 or 100% of all cargo. Congress passed a law actually. And finally, DHS said we

DHS contract, a dungeon like room in the psycho technology research institute in Moscow is used

and then later on there was a report that DHS said oh one of the drones has come down in a mall parking

lot but DHS is assessed it's just a regular drone so when you hear that what are you thinking

So I was brought into work with DHS to try to figure out a way where we can take national level intelligence information and get it disseminated down in a way that didn't.