Lou

Anyway, long story that started the connection, Jacques the lay came out to see me. He was the first one and then some other people came out to see me and then I got briefed briefed on two or three times and then I met Lou, who I knew of, but I didn't I didn't know his last name. I knew it was as Louie and I didn't know anything else, but anyway, I went down and went into his, his conference room in the inner corridors of the Pentagon.

And I will tell you anybody who says that Lou didn't work on this program, they're full of shit. I was there, I met everybody, I met all the people that work for him and with him.

Steve justice from the skunk works lucky morn skunk words came on board and and then Lou member talking to Lou you know and when at the Pentagon and of course Tom didn't know who Lou was and I couldn't tell him who Lou was but Lou decided he was going to you know resign and.

And finally you know I put Lou together with Tom and.

Then Lou came on board and and then Chris melon came on board and then you know we had this big meeting out in Seattle to announce the company and that's what it all started so.

I did want to get into the legacy programs with you actually because you know Lou has mentioned the legacy programs and and that they were kind of like the deep programs and even older programs are where unacknowledged regarding UFOs you know what what's so.

You know, I think, you know, Chris Mellon and Lou Elizondo deserve an enormous amount of credit

information and then Lou had his, Chris had his, Steve had his, Hal had his. But we didn't,

They, they, they really sort of started this whole thing. Lou Wox and Lou, you know,

want to mention was that Lou, prior to the interview, said something very important. I think

that a lot of people should know. And this is not something that's usually recorded. But Lou said,

at that is oh well that's Lou being secret that's Lou you know uh obfuscating the truth that's

Lou controlling a narrative no it's not what it's doing is allowing me the time and the ability

topic he says Lou this one I was a US space force because look Lou I really don't care about this all I

people who say well if I want to really know about that well what's your one suggestion Lou

just something for a hobby when I get older you know when I grow up and then Lou Elizondo

came out with Leslie Keenan their story and I went and found Lou and I said if you're

and all of a sudden Lou just turns back around and goes you're in and I was like in what

observing and some of the things you know like Lou said the five observables plus the six which is

what Lou said you know in Jeremy and I it wasn't really in that episode but for months talking to

of Congress and their staff make this happen getting Lou there we were also involved in the

its creation which was likely a reaction to like Lou and Chris Malin all these guys coming forward

Lou we did get admiral gal that which is great and our and the guy mike who is really great

that to me is that the reason why Dave is still alive and Lou is still alive and a lot of other

Yeah, I think, you know, I'll give credit to Lou for the whole grill in the cage and, you

Now Lou, Lou Elizando in his book describes like being in his office and a certain guy, I think it was maybe Likaski walks in and says, like, hey, I need you to apply for this.

Check where Lou was a lesson

Lou Elizondo, Harvard Psychiatry Department Head and legendary UFO researcher John Mac,

I don't know. It's hard. Well, what I've done, I got contacted by Lou Elizando himself

anything about UFOs, Lou Elizando ran an A-Tip these programs from 2007 to 2012. He also was

took place under Bigelow and on Skinwalker Ranch. Okay. Lou Elizando approved you.

Lou and in talking with Carl and talking with David and you know, and discussing these things

process of doing is and they know that I'm doing I mean you know Lou didn't just hire anybody yeah