Dave

dave west was like oh i want to come in i was like hold off let's just let's let's just feel

okay just eased it in here comes the dave come on dave like and um start filming a little bit now his

i kept looking at dave i'm like get her eyeballs get her eyeballs like phil i don't know what she was

talk to dave fravor or talk to to william coleman who was former united states air force world war ii

And I outside of Dave Grush and Dylan Borland, I haven't been overly impressed with the witnesses just in terms of exposure to the actual legacy programs.

Before Dave Rush spoke in 2023, the subject of legacy programs or UFO crash retrieval reverse engineering was just kind of like an amorphous or nebulous blob to me that I just thought the big they and the U.S. government were in charge of such operations.

I had like a very, you know, come to light moment watching Dave testify in front of Congress where I was able to start slowly picking up pieces.

I still think this was conveyed so well when, uh, Dave Grush went on Rogan.

Um, Joe and, and, and Dave Grush are talking about, you know, how put off the Stargate program, remote viewing, all sorts of interesting things.

And Dave Grush basically says, well, what if some of these psychic style psionic programs were created so that the agency, the CIA and other institutions could figure out how to unlock some craft they had sitting in a warehouse.

So, of course, Dave Grush recently came on Megyn Kelly and said that DNI Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and his PD DNI, Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Stephanie O'Sullivan, were not only aware of the crash retrieval issue, but also managed it in the senior capacity.

That Dave Grush had the stones to name, but nobody in the Age of Disclosure or that would would ever bring forth a name like that.

The early 2000s, you're talking about 9-11, because remember when Dave Grush recently went on Megyn Kelly, he said that the early 2000s, the onset of the war on terror, saw select contractors using IRAD.

So Dave Grush said that the war of terror saw various contractors harness IRAD to try and create their own breakaway programs, essentially.

Well, I mean, even Dave, Dave Grush has said that agreements have been made with NHI.

You know, same thing with, with Dave Grush and what people did to him and Dylan Borland.

extraordinary. Well, I mean, even Dave, Dave Grush has said that agreements have been made with

Dave, did you get him?

wouldn't blink. And I'm looking over at my cameraman, Dave, and I'm like, are you getting, you know, she's just looking at him. Like, I'm thinking, does she, does she have the photograph? Like, does she, you know, I don't know. Is she worried that we're in there probing? And, and at one point we asked him, like, when things got more comfortable and he goes, I'm a, I participate, I'm a witness. He saw the creature under a tarp, maybe the bottom half or something. And then he went into, as a military base, the activity, helicopters coming and landing. He goes,

And didn't Dave Grush say that some of the craft recovered were archeological digs or something like this?

down to that spot. And I remember my cameraman, he was old, older guy, Dave West. He's amazing.

you know, I can't be, I said, Dave, if you can't, you know, this is happening. This is unraveling

And I'm looking at Dave going, Dave, are you getting the wife?

And then there's my work with Dave Grush when I was at the Aerospace Corporation.

Dave was the NRO liaison officer to the UAP task force.

No, I think Dave Groesch

Dave Groesch telling me

of Dave Grosh's

of the 40 of Dave Grosh's?

Dave was allowed

Yeah, Dave's not a physicist.

I mean I can say I interacted with, for example, Dave Grush that you've had on your program before who is really a high-level intelligence officer.

Well, I know Dave.

I mean, because you have whistleblowers like Dave Grush coming forward, and he basically says we've got craft, we've got bodies, we've got aerospace corporations working on this behind the scenes.