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I have all my camera equipment out so he sees what I'm doing.
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My job in the military was field artillery radar.
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That wasn't my forte.
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I stayed with that job my entire career.
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So within my job field, there's been several incidents that I just can't talk about.
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But, so June 29th, 2015, I was on leave, and my wife, my kids, family had packed up, and we were moving from Georgia to Colorado Springs, Colorado.
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So, we packed up, and we chose to drive at night to avoid a lot of the traffic, because I had a large cargo trailer I was pulling behind my truck.
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And so, it just makes it a little bit more comfortable ride for my wife and I.
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such as, like, my dash lights started to dim, my headlights were dimming, our radio signal lost all radio signals.
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So, there was a lot of confusion going on in the cab of the truck at the time, as we're traveling, that sometimes my headlights would just get really bright, like almost I'd...
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Like, I put on my brights or something, and I didn't.
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I checked, and my brights even got even brighter.
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Maybe something shifted or vibrated and touched and is messing up with my electrical system.
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This is that moment my wife looked up and saw a bright light coming toward us.
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I'm focused on my task, and my task is, you know, keep us safe.
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And so, I'm focusing on the task, but I'm also, I'm glancing up at this object that's off to my left, coming toward us.
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You have to forgive me in my meters and my feet.
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So I'm leaning forward into the, I'm leaning forward and looking up through my windshield.
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I had my window down trying to listen for sound.
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I always kept the sides short and maybe the, the top of my head just a little bit longer.
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Um, uh, my, uh, uh, my oldest that was back there, he was kind of, he was kind of waking
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So my youngest was just out, you know, he was just out, out cold.
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Yeah, this is, this has been a while, you know, my hair stinking up and so is mine.
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training field i'm not out with my soldiers you know i'm this is happening right here while i'm on
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i've saved receipts because during my my uh trip my responsibility is to save all my receipts so that i can
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claim it right when i get to my next duty station and get reimbursed for uh some of my expenses so
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it's like gravity hit me again you know like sea legs almost like oh my yeah like oh my word like uh
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started our trip there's no way that my body couldn't handle that you know what i mean that was that was
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my legs were struggling to support my weight kind of thing because i'm not a heavy dude i'm a
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make the comment as i was thinking about i was about to say it and she's like my look i feel like
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i feel like we've been in the truck for hours i'm my legs are are weird or shaky i need to get
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the entire time um the uh the image that you're looking at um the the middle one was my wife's
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in my upper image because i was a little bit distracted trying to get these done quick
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would notice but we we were my wife and i at the time we're still like what in the heck but we're
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my phone says we keep going straight so this thing's telling us the turns of but that never happened
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i mean i couldn't close my eyes for too long um so you know i was i was rested i felt rested enough
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we stopped and uh uh paduca kentucky i believe is what it was called uh to my memory i believe it was
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light on and a pen in my hand and a uh receipt the hotel receipt um i was writing had squares and lines
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my way around to the bathroom and uh i remember turning on the light and i don't really remember
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my paperwork and uh i i stumbled back to bed and went back to sleep i don't know why i got up i didn't
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new ford new ford okay so i i reported it to them and let it go and then i went on to my daily life of
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getting things situated why we're there at our friends my wife and i both woke up in the middle of
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and my wife climbs up and looks and she's like oh my god what is that and i was like i have no idea
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uh faded or blurred around the edges so this was freaking me out because my kids were in the living
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ready to i'm ready to fight so i my my men my uh aggression came out and i'm standing there and
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i'm and i'm trying to size them up you know with with my with my uh appearance uh i'm trying to
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vibe that i just kept getting from this so i shut the blinds and moved back closer to my kids away
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my kids to be more protective of my kids um she was kind of in the hallway just kind of peering out
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my aggression and and my willpower and i went over and threw the blinds open standing there and they
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weren't there uh my god thankfully they were not right outside those glass doors and so i'm looking
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MUFON came by um after uh filing my report um uh i believe they wanted to they asked me permission to
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bodies to see if there were any uh we had i had some um strange markings on my i thought with injuries
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on my back on your back they did back in your neck uh my neck and my and my back area and um they
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there was red spots and puncture wounds that i felt they felt like to me on my back and my wife said
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separately um i'll keep in mind my wife and i we think completely different which is fine yeah you
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and they were like oh and they're just like freaking out oh my god you see this is going wild and
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and they seemed kind of excited about it so i was like okay okay okay that's weird i washed my truck
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investigation works it's just this situation with my family completely completely utterly different with
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investigating i wouldn't have thought of not washing my vehicle but i'd wash my vehicle
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in the process of getting to colorado um it was dirty i needed to be able to see through my windshield
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and i needed to be able to you know my headlights needed to be work so uh we had to remove a lot of bugs
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before we even made this trip uh and i'm glad i had a conversation with my wife before this interview
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when she covered my mouth i tried to write them onto the door with my fingernail
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my got me uh alert and i realized i was on the floor and i just got up and immediately went back to bed
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yes uh he he found that and my um i'm sure you have some images we can pull up and show people
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had some thicker lines and some thinner lines or thin lines yep that were and and some of my dreams
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seeing them and in my mind's eye things were a little bit darker all around but they were appearing
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and lines coming across my face like this you know just kind of like reading like everything's just
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that room they're just darker and these blue boxes and lines are coming by my face so the first time
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happening right in my peripherals from right to left just moving slow and so i'm able to do the boxes and
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and capital letters and then eventually into more or less like just verbal messages you know in my head
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my notebook and i'm sending them over to her and she's looking at it and she's she knew she was going
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i cracked it that's the thing he's a brilliant mind it didn't take months yeah it took from my understanding
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almost non-coherently in a hotel room bathroom standing there almost in my birthday suit yeah you
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back how does that did that terrify you that would scare sorry part of my friendship scared the
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um it uh it shaken me and my core quite a bit um how did your wife handle that
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ourselves against adversaries right so when you have these dark projects i'm just i'm just going off my own
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it's insane um and you love puzzles i love this is absolutely a puzzle this is my favorite puzzle ever
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do you think they mean by that so in my mind when i think of combined survival is maybe um we're not the
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i'm just an educated guess you know that's just my military minds of thinking okay so yeah i mean
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I know very little, but it was before my time, so.
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And then I did a Google search after and, and tried to get some of my own information and my own interpretations.
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And she just, uh, put out this peer reviewed paper, which is incredible and pretty much disclosure in my opinion.
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Dude, this is blowing my mind right now.
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And some of it is just, you know, it's just kind of out of my realm, to be honest with
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But, you know, my, my discord that I'm on, um, are, are roughly about, you know, my King's
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You know, it's, it's, it's my, it's my, you know, the Alliance that I'm part of and we
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I guess in my mind frame, I feel very singled out.
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I might, I might get my butt whipped, but he's going to feel me the next day.
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that's what I guess that was brings out my, my, uh, my fear a little bit.
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So you could essentially, and maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but I feel like you could
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example of what that would sound like to my ears?
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And that was, uh, uh, my driver's side door was open and I was being pulled from my, my
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But I re I clearly remember, um, seeing my wife in the passenger seat, almost frozen in
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with that's pulling me from the, from, from my truck.
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And so I'm, I'm seeing, and I'm seeing my wife sitting in the passenger seat, just basically
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And I feel it interacting with my body in some way.
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Um, slowing my, my, uh, slowing my reaction time down, slowing, slowing down my movements,
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I'm just not able to whip my head around.
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You know, my, my focus was on what are these things.
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How did my clothes get removed?
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Like, I guess slow, my motion, the, my motions like, like if I was going to punch the air,
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And at one point I do remember shoving the one off to my left pretty hard and it went back
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Um, they were not associating my emotions with anything.
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And there was a one that, uh, that was down by my foot, uh, that seemed a little bit older,
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relax me and calm me down because I was feeling like some sharp pains in my back and along my neck.
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Like I w it w I was fine, but I would feel like electric, electric, um, pain, stabbing pain, like stabbing pain mixed with electricity, like shocks and jolts in my neck and my back.
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And in my opinion, it rings pretty true.
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My conviction level on that being true is up there around 80%.
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No, no, this was not my only run-in.
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where my wife and I both had, uh, an identical dream.
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And then I remember some chaos happening off to my right and, uh, some more attacks were
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And, uh, what's odd is my wife was dreaming that she was in a, in a different structure
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Like, oh my God, that's exactly what I dreamed.
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I can remember how things feel on my skin.
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Um, I can rem, I can remember, um, wind or breeze on my face.
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These are dreams where I'm feeling and smelling and hearing and experiencing with all my senses.
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And so that's where I, you know, we've got, we say dreams, but my dreams don't leave strange
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marks, symmetrical marks on my body.
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With my eye that's happened several times, actually.
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I don't know why I needed something jabbed in my eye, you know, to be honest with you.
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But, you know, I'm, I'm thankful that I, I, I could still use both my eyes and I have 20, 20 vision.
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So, and, and one of my dreams, there was a, uh, or I keep saying dreams.
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I love my country.
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was like my initial thought.
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It's like it was predicting my future outcome of where I would be.
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I'm pretty open-minded, but I, I do live my life, uh, peaceful and calm and courteous to others and polite to others.
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up in my head all the time kind of thing.
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I, I booked my trip to Rome.
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Now I'm like, uh, oh, that kind of foils my plan to go to the Vatican.
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But that would just be like a gift of a vehicle in my perspective of things.
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It sounds, it sounds, uh, like it's, uh, kind of out of my realm of,
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because I can envision things in my mind, um, such as playing billiards and pool.
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But I did not bring my pool cue.
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with him, um, what I was seeing and, and my vivid dream state.
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You know, my name's out there.
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I, I mean, no threat to anyone, especially my own country.
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You know, I, I, I chose to defend my country.
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within our, within my country and within, within the world, you know, per se.
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I don't want, I don't want to bring negativity to, you know, to my household.
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So I'll never go against my country.
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And that's not my intention.
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My, my job there, uh, as a civilian, but I, I was working on the installation and, uh, a, uh, fellow contractor was having a birthday.
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And, uh, I knew I had, I looked at my watch at one point and I was like, oh no, it's almost time before they, they locked down the base and I can't get back on.
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And I'm like, oh my God, I gotta, I gotta go.
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So, um, I had work to do and I wanted to get back to my work, you know, because I kind of engulfed myself with, with my work.
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And, uh, uh, we went and sat down and ate and ordered our coffees and, and, you know, I got my little egg breakfast thing going.
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And then I just kept hearing in my head, why are you here?
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I kept hearing this in my head.
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And I'm hearing it in my head, but not audible.
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And so I'm like, okay, well, I don't want, I don't want my friend to think I'm crazy.
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But they're, they're talking to me in my head, like asking me if I need help or anything.
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And I'm in the back of my, in back of my mind, I'm not verbally saying it, but I was like, no, I'm okay.
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I'm saying it in my head.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know if the message was received or not, but I'm thinking it in my head.
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You know, I'm just saying that in my head, I'm not speaking it.
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Oh my gosh, yeah.
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You know, just kind of, it kept hearing in my head.
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Besides in my head, but it was all the same in my head.
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Or maybe in my perspective of things, this is, this is not that important right now.
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to my mental state.
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Um, I was, my parents were still together.
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My mom and dad were still married.
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And it freaked my parents out when I wasn't in bed, when they go to wake me up for school
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I don't know what I was afraid of, but I was drawing a lot of pictures that my mom
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I've fallen asleep in a toy box on my back porch.
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And there was one time where my dad was concerned and slept outside of my room.
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And, uh, because they would lock us in the room, me and my brother, they locked me and
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my brother in the room because they thought I was sleepwalking.
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And so my dad grabbed a chair, put it outside our bedroom door, you know, tucked us in and
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But this morning, my, they go and unlock the door to go wake us up and I'm not there.
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I'm, I've been locked in my room, but I'm not in there.
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walked by my dad's car and saw my foot hanging out from some of my dad's work clothes.
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And I've had fallen asleep inside my dad's locked car in the back seat.
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I was sleeping in the back seat of my dad's car under some of his, uh, work coats.
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My dad was looking for his keys.
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And my dad found his keys like in the closet where he keeps them up top, where he keeps
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In the back seat of my dad's car at four years old.
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I'm just going to point out that, you know, my mom brought this up and she said it bothered
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This was like a one month timeframe or so in my young.
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Uh, I, I, sometime 2021, right after I retired from the military and I was going through my
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And, uh, I, I thought that there's, you know, I either, my appendix was about to burst
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And so they were thinking that maybe my, something was going on with my appendix or something.
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are, are affecting me and my body.
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And why they were doing that, they, they discovered a, a, a anomaly in my left hip.
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And it was about, you know, half, half my finger down, my pinky finger down, you know,
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You can see my circulatory system.
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You can see, uh, blood pumping from my heart.
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You can see the pulsing from my, my, my heartbeat.
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And this thing had its own pulse that was different from the rest of my circulatory system.
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How my heart is.
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They were, they were, I mean, my doctor was like, what the hell?
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And, and I rolled to my right and they removed the, they were moving the paper apron that they always make you wear.
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They were moving that paper apron around and just completely checking out my, uh, the back of my buttocks, my, my hip, my legs, my inner thigh.
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It hurts in my abdominal.
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Um, I have never received any shrapnel or anything like that in my career.
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And the more I thought about it, I said, no, I'll have to talk to my wife first.
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And so they were going through my medical records and everything, trying to figure out
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And he goes, but it was in my body.
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And let me know, you know, if you need my help with anything you got going on.
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I'm going to bring up, I got my phone in my hand, but not because I'm texting anybody,
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We got one from my friend, uh, Jesse Michaels.
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And, and, um, I don't know, more or less with, with music videos for my kids when they're growing up and stuff.
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Uh, my son was into BMXing and riding with his friend, uh, his friend, Chris.
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Um, so yeah, my, my, my job was essentially aligned with a lot of the intelligence community.
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It's from my friend, Luigi Vendatelli.
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Um, in my, in my dream or in what I remember the flashbacks I was having, um, I never saw
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pains in my neck and my, in my back, uh, region, but I couldn't see what was going on with my
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neck and my, I was, I didn't have an out-of-body experience.
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I was in, I was in my own body, so I couldn't see what was going on behind me and they were
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off to my peripherals.
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And then, and then my neck.
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Prior to most of my injuries, yes.
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Make my back good.
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Um, originally I wanted to protect my family, um, and, and just kind of live my life.
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