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he also said it was like an angel you know uh people have criticized i've gotten a little
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virginia i need to dig deep on this one which we did later multiple times and um uh marco sits down
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attack and then he had prostate cancer and uh he goes tell him to meet me at the back of the hospital
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i have drivers picking him up okay and his wife and i've got other people i've got the the uh
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15 applications 14 applications something like this yeah is this the video uh no that's the other
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co-workers of 45 years there's another clip is what is this press club event uh january 20th at the
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in uh virginia brazil with an unprecedented meeting with all the doctors involved with the case and
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for context for folks uh you can go back and watch the original podcast what you and i did about
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their personal cars but in any case okay yeah there were two uh military guys eric lopes was
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night so uh he gets a scratch and apparently had like some oil on his skin which is weird because
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of the uh it was the icu yeah icu yeah so anyway um i don't know man one can speculate but the girl
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have to do disclosure and they're talking about skiffs and congress and and uh uh unidentified reverse
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about uh maybe a week or two after the trailer dropped and word was getting out that italo was
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and uh witnesses and they said uh when we saw that video of you like when we saw that video of you
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having his back it was uh it was like um you had all of our backs so i was just like you know i was like
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come forward yet but but we'll see what happens the 30th anniversary is is uh january 20th
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big wig folks uh in washington that are like all about disclosure disclosure disclosure well here's the
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like it can't be therefore it isn't and uh and i just say to people like don't take it from me just
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at the highest levels age of disclosure just came out with uh with dan farah and lou elizondo and
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this anyway this uh this guy reached out to me and he was like um excuse me i could wipe my nose here
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the past years ago he uh and he did not deny having that photograph at the time um we were going to his
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virginia and i had my whole crew with me and uh um somehow somebody was needed to go to the bathroom
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on our team could have been me i don't know and we stopped at this little pizzeria and uh the the
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coming in with all this gear and stuff and he's like oh sit down and i'll make you pizzas and we make uh
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doorstep him right we're just going to show up and uh and i was like you know what let's sit down let's
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moment of contact and uh um i think i would eventually just said hey uh would you mind if we
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also a lot of like abduction uh claims in the 90s you know abductions are things that i've always kept
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that night uh it was march 13th 1997 and remember everyone was out under the night sky to get a
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glimpse of the hell bomb comet right and uh i see him drinking beers he's drinking beers and that's a
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it it's a certain uh defcom and i i'm sorry to your audience that's way more well versed than this
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blue and i did another film about it uh i know what i saw which covered that case and the governor
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recall correctly the night of the phoenix lights they people recalled seeing these like uh boomerang
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uh i'm trying to remember the mountain range right near where they lived but in any case oh they were on
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it was seven o'clock 7 30 whatever late in the afternoon early evening and uh and um they said
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and then it passes overhead and they go right back to having tea and i went uh excuse me you didn't like
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hangers and we have uh 18 captured alien bodies that uh are in our custody in florida new mexico
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clearances to this day he still works for them uh he works for i don't know if i can reveal who he
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evidence they wanted to show me and i had to get like uh i had to get like 48 hour background screening
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december and uh and i i and i i go into uh well they had to do they had to do its background check
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even do he was air force officers special investigations osi and uh i look inside the
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the world yeah but uh so then the other uh uh john kosklauski the new head of arrow he comes in
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like and i started rattling off cases and one of them was like you know james it's kind of funny uh
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like that's my that's pretty damn cool right awesome and then uh then i started talking about rua
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look into psychological and that changed with socorro in 64. but uh then i said like people
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i've heard yeah and and uh well i can can i can i transition into one more thing yes okay so i'm
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on that but for now it's on amazon linked below yes find it yeah so uh what was i getting at and look
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it should be yeah it should be the same in this in this field like hey man you think uh it's alien
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that's what i was going to tell you sorry got sidetracked so i was at i was at the um the uh
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was in texas but it was one of the premieres in uh on an aircraft carrier oh yes for the age of
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going to get and uh i see leslie leslie keen across the way and there were like guys from the cia
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these guys are from the agency and and uh oh little side story so we're like the premiere yeah yeah
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intelligence agency okay yeah and uh uh not a bit dod as well but anyway um i saw that this individual
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and uh we start chopping it up excuse me and um i said uh i said you know i've heard that there are
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know i'm just curious even if i can't share it with the world i still want to know yeah and uh this
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and i mean i was all ears so i said uh huh well like what category would you consider yourself
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uh probably one of 30. so so you have a bigger picture i mean not quite as big as the 10 but you
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you know so the conversation a little more and pry a little further i said uh well like um like
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she knew exactly what i was after and uh someone butts in the conversation hey i've been really
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can you find jesse michaels just retweeted something i think it was yesterday oh that was uh grush saying
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retweeted it and wrote like uh shots fired above it yeah yeah keep going yeah i saw that keep going
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serving as director of national intelligence uh when he was the dni the usdi and dia director
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now let me just say one thing that that i wasn't sure if you guys were aware of but uh dan ferris said
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to me at the screening or after the screening that uh clapper's wife was in the hospital on the verge of
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wouldn't right and uh and he goes hey listen i i understand mr clapper if if you need to attend
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it was funny actually because we sat down with him i think we had to go up to brazilia at one point but uh
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he uh we had the interview and i didn't ask him about virginia but we we turned the cameras off we
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a couple meetings with him and uh sat in the car door open driver engine running looked up at marco
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when we get to the crash site we go out in moment of contact right right new new revelations uh
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frieden talked all about it and he was very impressed but uh you know different the way they looked the
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and uh so i was of the witnesses yes of the witness the first-hand witnesses we were going to fly
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that next to that steve yeah right there boom that's what the creature looked like uh betty rodriguez
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uh did that with the help of the three girls right after the incident that's the cinder block wall
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remind me it's not a disc and there's a kid going what part of the movie uh when i when i interviewed
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and um and i found out later from other fellow uh brazilian researchers and some of them quite hot dog like
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and previous researchers uh uberjado rodriguez clodio covo pacchini uh marco pitt um aj javard
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lawyers on the case he was amazing um was it where was i getting that uh the uh the capture yeah
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out of his mouth to the guy who used to be a politician a very prominent figure uh romolo and
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and i saw these eyes like eyes remember i was talking about uh pedro aguillard's wife with the
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relevant i think so and um uh i kept pushing the fact maybe it was just as well that i didn't because
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freaked out was we had just met with uh military x and then we were about to and then we doorstepped
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uh that they were not going to take me they were going to take marco leal my partner and say that
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that we just met with military x and they said oh there's a there's an american film crew uh poking
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around uh did they uh reach out to you by any chance and our military x guy is like uh no no uh-uh
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of here so so i found out two things after that one is uh i contacted his wife indirectly i can't
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about this is it's like uh it's a prolonged investigation and this stuff's going to come
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this comes out or maybe a little bit after uh there will be um a 30th anniversary celebration and
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people are looking at uh the bravery and courage and courage of ethelo and that's not that's not going
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two alive ones maybe we got more maybe we got three i don't know but uh the military sorry the chief of
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time is uh blood blood so bladsoe saw that bladsoe's son has a tattoo of one with red eyes on what yes he
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does yeah check it out i don't remember him telling me about that i saw it in a pool at uh
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the chalkboard you know like oh let's cover this case bent waters phoenix lights yeah you know uh
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jeff zaganski i'm sure he's fine me telling him telling you this and uh jeff goes um and i had a lot
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nuclear physicist and ufo researcher uh uh stanton friedman oh okay yeah and he's the reason why a lot
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over the place right wing left wing all that and uh when the moment of contact came out it was crickets
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way everybody anybody would feel and i had a couple people i think it was uh the guy from minds uh sorry
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one about paul benowitz i never saw that one i don't think yeah it it followed uh i think his name's
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uh a big air force base there where they were testing stuff and he was okay he was an american
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when did uh was he getting photographs of of like discs or like what do you know i mean do we have
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that um was it like done by some dudes in britain funny enough netflix or uh i think i watched it on
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of a uh a harmony kareen movie anyways um so benowitz got visited by rick dody rick dody found out
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house and he's like you're like you're like uh you're like a guy who's like in the house and he
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