Gary

Gary and Mary Ruth, we've been working on this story for a long time,

really interesting is um gary nolan has this magnesium bismuth piece in his lab at stanford you'd need

like the one lazar described bismuth in the ufo samples that stanford professor gary nolan is

You got to go talk to Dr. Gary Nolan.

Yep. Professor Gary Nolan is one of those precocious minds that when you meet them, you know, you're in the presence of awesome, incredible intelligence.

So Gary, the implications of what you're saying there are enormous, aren't they?

Wow. I mean, I have listened to so many people talk about this topic over the years, and I actually get a little excited when I see Gary Nolan talking about it, because he's the perfect kind of witness.

And now I almost thought Lou Elizondo was getting overexposed, and I wondered, is Gary Nolan the new Lou Elizondo?

It's an incredible conspiracy. But the amazing thing is, in my interview with Professor Gary Nolan, Professor Gary Nolan confirmed he believes that the memo is authentic and that it records real events. Have a listen to what Gary told me.

Now, the journalist in me, Gary, thinks Americans can't keep secrets. I mean, everything leaks in this country.

The implications of that are mind-blowing, Gary.

But when Gary Nolan says, oh, yeah, that's the real thing, I get shivers on that one, too, because of what it says.

Yeah, I don't think we can overestimate the significance of somebody like Professor Gary Nolan, who's a close personal friend of Eric Davis,

The thing about Gary is he's plugged into the intelligence community.

Because Professor Gary Nolan is an experiencer.

I mean, Gary Nolan is also doing this at Stanford.

Gary was also, when I was at his lab, he showed me some of the pieces and he mentioned that

And Gary Nolan talked about that today at the hackathon, about how hard data is, even his data that he has.

Jake Barber. So I was very cautious for a long time of who I would meet with or talk with. I actually met with Gary one time in a way that frankly made him very uncomfortable.

With Gary and then I also ran into some congressional staff members, did the same thing of like, I don't want to be on your calendar, but I want to like your, your congressperson saying publicly that they want this.

So first I met Gary and then I met Alex. And then after we, we met Jake and I met when we started forming the company Skywatcher as a, as a private entity.