Carl

And didn't you also meet Carl Sagan at one point?

And that was the first moment that the Vulcan Venus scientist Carl Sagan knew who demodulated that data.

I says, Carl.

On this badge was Carl's name.

as Carl Grillmayer.

Carl Grillmayer.

Carl Grillmayer

Carl Johann Grillmayer,

but Carl Grillmayer did not.

Carl Grillmayer

and I know Carl

Carl Grillmayer

Carl Grillmayer

with Carl Grillmayer.

Carl Grillmair.

The murder of Carl Grillmair,

like Carl

The killing of Carl Grillmair

He was murdered in his home in Boston in December. And then it was Carl Grilmar, a Caltech astrophysicist

who discovered water on another planet where there may have been life. Carl was murdered randomly in

They both saw the same thing that Carl described, a cigar shaped craft with vapor coming out the back

But I don't come from authority. I'm not a scientist. I'm not Carl Sagan. I'm not. I don't have. I can't. You can take my work and you can say he was a horror novelist.

that for Sam used to keep the keep the place clean and so you know I don't know idea what he did I'm pretty sure that's not true I have a feeling somehow I didn't pick up cigarette butts yeah yeah and what what loses name his first is Carl street or OK and

Colonel Carl now

Very interesting. I did not know that I want to talk to Carl about that

You sound like Carl Sagan describing platonic. Yeah, I don't mean to be having an elite military unit. Yeah, what I need to make very clear is

Um, who was actually part of the uap task force the army representative guy named Carl Nell

He and Carl now who is just kind of gigabrain

A year later, I brought Colonel Carl Nell to Salt.

Carl's had a decorated career leading our military at the highest levels. And he certainly

Let me ask a guy associated with my mentor at SUNY. His name is Carl.

pretty serious people involved, you know, I've become decently close with Carl Nell and like,

Lou and in talking with Carl and talking with David and you know, and discussing these things