And it was during that time that I met some people from the Pentagon, who were running the, it was a lose group that was running the ATI program and through John Alexander actually ran into John Alexander.
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And at a conference and Alexander heard my story and my wife's story and he came to visit us and then he took the data back to to a lab and this is some stuff that came on my wife's face.
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Alexander Wenton. I came over the other gentleman's name from Ohio State. And I'm basically saying,
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You know, I from the sort of the John Alexander school, I mean, he, I saw a presentation he did
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