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George Napsource was this man, John Lear, famed aviator, son of the founder of the Lear jet and soon to be influential in the conversation on UFOs.

You're a member of the famous Lear family that all the vatins are pretty much familiar with his father had developed the Lear jet and he had a passion for secret planes.

And one day John Lear walks into the news station. This is in 1987 with a stack of documents, UFO documents. And he plops them on Ned Day's desk and he says, Ned, this is the biggest story you will ever cover in your life.

It's about a cover up of massive proportions. You're going to become famous. You got to do this story, pushes the documents over and Ned starts reading him and he pushes the pile back and he tells Lear, this can't be true.

If this was true, this UFO cover up, then I'd already know about it. He says, I'm Eve's dropping as I tend to do. And I said, Mr. Lear, let me take a look at that stuff.

Well, they just turned off again. Welcome back UFOs. Are they real? We're talking with John Lear on the subject.

So I try to educate myself and get ready for that next Lear appearance and the response from the public was even bigger.

According to John Lear this is the only snippet of real UFO footage that aired in the documentary.

John Lear's new friend not only knew what was going on out there he knew when and where to look to the skies.

Good evening this is John Lear.

That scientist was interviewed live on television in May 1989 from Lear's driveway.

What George didn't know was that this would be even bigger than John Lear it turned out to change everything we know about the government and UFOs.

I'm thinking who could we get to fill this I called up John Lear I said you said you had a guy who was going to work out there and maybe work on flying saucers in the desert.

We went up to Lear's house. It was sort of an uncomfortable situation in the beginning,

because Lear wanted to control the whole thing. He wouldn't tell us the guy's name.

But the guy had signed a guest book at the entrance to Lear's home.

right here in Las Vegas. His name is John Lear and he is my guest today. Mr. Lear,

member of the famous Lear family that all the vatins are pretty much familiar

Welcome back, UFOs. Are they real? We're talking with John Lear on the subject. Mr.

Lear mentioned a couple of minutes ago about what the president might say about UFOs. Do

Welcome back. We have a few minutes left with John Lear. We're talking about UFOs. You're about

Okay John Lear it's been very interesting. You keep us posted. Sure well. Thank you. We'll see you

In 2013, you offer researcher, a leader, Roger, lear. He was in Los Angeles. I was shooting in Los Angeles. And I at the time, even though I was covering Virginia, and I was covering the landing case in Australia, I had a specific focus that week on the witnesses from Rua's in Bobway.

So I focused on that. And Roger, lear is like, I heard you're doing a document or part you're covering the Virginia case because I was going to just.

So I find out who is he with. Yeah, he was with Ubudur, Ubudur Jada Rodriguez. It was a very prominent UFO researcher that happened to do like at one point, he was the biggest advocate that this happened. There's no question. We have all these witnesses to nothing to have daughter to nothing happened. And it was all just a big, you know, blah, blah. So he did at one point he did a one A. So now this guy won't even meet with me. He's one rear Roger Lear. He's deceased.

Yeah, John Lear would say shit like that.

Which makes me, again, John Lear, I don't know if he was like an agent or a useful idiot,